NGpatriot:
Who founded Benin sef? No be Yoruba people?

NGpatriot:
What are they waiting for? Make benin people go and collect Lagos now, even sef, collect Lagos allocation and IGR too..



Comedians..

BlackfireX:
The thing will pain one ogbomoso imp claiming Lagos



The thing go sweet wise men from the East

nocomment2:

No, Benin was founded by Benin.
Yoruba came to being in the 17th century and it was an other name for oyo.

nocomment2:
[s]
In the current state of affairs, lagos is within the borders of a country called nigeria. you may have heard of this (or not) but colonisation happened. Benin was defeated by britain and Benin army was disbanded. And an other country was created , that country is more or less what we call nigeria today. Right now lagos and every piece of land within nigeria belongs to nigeria and to all nigerians. I am not sure that you guys are all aware of this. Even Sanusi has his own part of Lagos. The sultan of sokoto can go and buy land in ife or in enugu, nothing would stop him from doing that.
We are discussing history (at least I am), it is not a competition, it is just passed events. Nothing more.[/s]

nocomment2:
Yorubas should stop being ashamed of their ancestors. Yes a lot if not most yorubas descend from slaves. Deal with it.
You all know this and celebrate it when your oni goes to brazil to meet the other slave descendants who weren't deported.
But as soon as people are talking about history, you just chose to forget your ancestry and pretend there was one magical oduduwa and his magical oranmiyan son who created this and that and ... and droped from the sky with a golden chain....

nocomment2:


www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996622_oniofifepriest_jpega627ad8152e5189591312779b1eea23a

The image you attached here traces to only one source as diverse and as versatile as the World-Wide-Web is.

The image traces only to a post from an unverified Facebook page of a certain apparent amateur who, nonetheless, self-certified theirs as a history page.

This singular originator of this image (and Facebook post) — from where our OP has simply lifted word-for-word and image-for-image — was severely roasted in the comment section of their own Facebook post for misinforming the public.

Guess what, this poster (despite the multiple and consistent heavy criticisms in the comment section) dared not name even one source to prove that the individual in the picture was indeed an Ooni, much less substantiate the authenticity of their uncorroborated and sourceless footnote which they’ve edited into the anonymous picture. It was a clear case of propaganda gone wrong.

There is simply no evidence anywhere in all of history pages to back up his mischievous association of the Ooni of Ife with IfA priesthood. Neither could he dare say a word in defense of his apparent mischievous editing as there is no other source for such (apparently false) information.

In fact to be emphatic, there is not a single past Ooni of Ife (from Yorubaland’s photography era) who has ever adorned the circular-style beaded-necklace as shown in the OP’s image.

This singular fact alone instantly debunks our OP’s image (and its accompanying footnote) as a work of dubious and fraudulent propaganda. Lol!

The Ooni of Ife was always and remains the head of all Yoruba kings as I have demonstrated with evidence in my above comment which precedes this one.

nocomment2:
[s]Sources of the maps which I posted.

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530530714.r=Benin?rk=214593;2
Between 1600 and 1699

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=193134;0
between 1600 and 1699

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=193134;0
1707

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b59701428.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

Disregard whatever document is "quoted" but not actually provided. I don't even waste my time reading it. I won't enage my intellect on something which is very likely to be a fraud or which is taken out of context and hidden so that I don't get to cross examine it.[/s]

nocomment2:
Once again the translation in full:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

nocomment2:
Ok, I have had my fun with this scam artist named christistruth00. I am the person who actually found the historical document in question and posted it to nairalanda.
Here is the actual translation:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

The document comes from a book: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k62093119/f11.image.r=Yebou

@ Areafada, Gregyboy, Samuk, Davidnazee.

Very obviously the metropolis being talked about is Benin !
Macof why are you such a liar ?
For your info, "langue de terre" means : "very narrow piece of land". You don't speak French and your Google translation won't translate that, because it is an expression.
While discussing history with you guys yoruba, it always comes down to this: you must lie ! But why ? It is history, it has already happened, why try to create your alternate reality ?

For readers who only want the truth, the text is here for you, don't be lazy, translate it.

Also, when you see expressions like "langue de terre" you have to first look at its meaning in a French dictionary ( just type the expression on Google, it should give you the meaning in french), then you translate the meaning (which would be words in french) into English.
Don't believe me, just do the work and don't be lazy.


Also, as can be seen in the third caption, "ouyo" doesn't mean "oyo". Ouyo refers to a bunch of pirates whom were also called Jos. The ouyo pirates are most likely ijo people ! Gbam !

[url=]gregyboy:[/url]

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12986988_beninife_jpeg6a7a60b85f1e96049f54408a72807f5b

nocomment2:
Yorubas should stop being ashamed of their ancestors. Yes a lot if not most yorubas descend from slaves. Deal with it.
You all know this and celebrate it when your oni goes to brazil to meet the other slave descendants who weren't deported.
But as soon as people are talking about history, you just chose to forget your ancestry and pretend there was one magical oduduwa and his magical oranmiyan son who created this and that and ... and droped from the sky with a golden chain....

[s]Oh, I haven't finished reading the book, I bet there are many more revealing facts on it. i shall continue reading it and i will post my findings right here[/s]

nocomment2:
[s]Ok, this mentally ill person above doesn't speak a word of french, I speak french fluently.
I provided a quote from the book and the book itself in order to let people cross examine it.
I provided a caption of where i quoted and I provided the exact page.
That is how to do things honnestly contrary to the guy above who keeps supposedly quoting papers which he doesn't provide in any way or form.

I gave a translation and as I already stated the person above gave a false translation, notice that his current translation is not the one he first gave a long time ago. Now his translation has got much closer to mine. SO which one is true mr man ? Your previous translation or the current one which is much closer to my one and only translation ?

The text and its translation are unmistakable.

Lagos belongs to Benin ![/s]

nocomment2:


www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996622_oniofifepriest_jpega627ad8152e5189591312779b1eea23a

The image you attached here traces to only one source as diverse and as versatile as the World-Wide-Web is.

The image traces only to a post from an unverified Facebook page of a certain apparent amateur who, nonetheless, self-certified theirs as a history page.

This singular originator of this image (and Facebook post) — from where our OP has simply lifted word-for-word and image-for-image — was severely roasted in the comment section of their own Facebook post for misinforming the public.

Guess what, this poster (despite the multiple and consistent heavy criticisms in the comment section) dared not name even one source to prove that the individual in the picture was indeed an Ooni, much less substantiate the authenticity of their uncorroborated and sourceless footnote which they’ve edited into the anonymous picture. It was a clear case of propaganda gone wrong.

There is simply no evidence anywhere in all of history pages to back up his mischievous association of the Ooni of Ife with IfA priesthood. Neither could he dare say a word in defense of his apparent mischievous editing as there is no other source for such (apparently false) information.

In fact to be emphatic, there is not a single past Ooni of Ife (from Yorubaland’s photography era) who has ever adorned the circular-style beaded-necklace as shown in the OP’s image.

This singular fact alone instantly debunks our OP’s image (and its accompanying footnote) as a work of dubious and fraudulent propaganda. Lol!

The Ooni of Ife was always and remains the head of all Yoruba kings as I have demonstrated with evidence in my above comment which precedes this one.

nocomment2:


www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996788_screenshot20201129whyikwerresarenotigbothelogicbehinditculture23nigeria_jpega7c3aadfb6dfefac0d309737b1afa1a8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llporKrPsbU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2hU-ibkPfg

nocomment2:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llporKrPsbU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2hU-ibkPfg

nocomment2:
Why are they denying it online and spreading all sorts of lies whereas they do celebrate their carnivals and all. They celibrate their ancestors during their carnivals but deny their ancestors when we talk about history. What kind of schizophrenia is this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWq56gPn-M8
Your ancestors were slaves, deal with it !

nocomment2:
Yoruba, come and see your ancestors and their masters:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jg4SaMxMnY

nocomment2:
yoruba ancestral land, the only one they actually have in common is brazil, not ife. Brazil where their ancestors were slaves.

nocomment2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llporKrPsbU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2hU-ibkPfg

forgiveness:


Google the first Oba of Benin and the result will be Oranmiyam.

nocomment2:
[s]What kind of a king gets knighted by an other king ?

Answer: a fake king.

Thanks for helping me prove my point that oni ofe ife was a sell out to the british.[/s]

[s]Also notice that nowhere in your document is the oni called Oba, nor is he even called king. The article which once again you did not provide in full clearly shows the oni as a politician who had the favors of the british. As I have always stated, the oni was elevated by the british whom he served well, while true African kings were degraded.
Notice how the oni is nt referred to as the leader of the yoruba but actually as one among many ruling yoruba chiefs in the western region.[/s]

nocomment2:
The extent at which these guys will deny obvious reality is frightening.
yoruba = slave in brazil

Everybody knows that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jg4SaMxMnY

nocomment2:
This guy is a clown. Stop denying reality, these are yoruba like their cousins who were deported and now claim they migrated from ife.
Yoruba actual ancestors, here are the true oduduwa climbing from the sky with a golden chain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ymEWtcaYE