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TAO11:
(1) Ulsheimer’s report as cited above states clearly that this settlement of the Bini immigrants was confined to only one island.

In other words, these Bini immigrants settled NOT on all the islands in Lagos, neither did they settle on the mainland.


(2) Ulsheimer’s report (as cited above) states clearly that this settlement of the Bini immigrants (which is on the island) was a frontier settlement.

In other words, this Bini settlement lies on the border of (at least) two other settlements on that island.

(3) Ulsheimer’s report as cited above names this settlement of the Bini immigrants as ”Lago”.

In other words, “Lago” was just one settlement (wherein the Bini immigrants lived) among others’ settlements on that island.

(4) Ulsheimer’s report shows that as at the year 1603 when he (Ulsheirmer) visited the island, he already met the Bini immigrants already living on the island — within a fairly large fenced settlement.

In other words, Ulsheimer was not an eyewitness to how the Bini immigrants first penetrated into Lagos from Benin.

In other words, he has no information (eyewitness or even otherwise) regarding whether the Binis penetrated into the island (from Benin) by warfare.

Neither does he have any information on whether they acquired the settlement from the native people by means of some peaceful negotiation.

(5) Regardless of how they originally acquired their settlement (by conquest or by peaceful negotiation with the natives) the settlement — as at the time of Ulsheimer’s visit — was already the exclusive property of the Binis.

(6) The only writings which came to make the first statements on the manner of acquisition of their settlement are writings from the year 1878, 1914, 1929, and 1952.

(7) The 1878, 1914, and 1929 writings are known by historians as the Lagos account — and these three all agree that the Binis acquired their settlement on the Island by means of a peaceful negotiation with the native owners, the Aworis.

[See attached for an excerpt from the 1929 recollection of the Lagos account].

(8 ) It wasn’t until the year 1952 (decades after the Lagos account have been published by British colonial authorities) that a Benin Chief by the name J. U. Egharevba came up with his reactive account that the Binis acquired the Lagos settlement by warfare.

(9) It is clear who was narrating an account unconditionally, and who woke up decades later (without any prior evidence) to react that it wasn’t so.

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nocomment2:
ok, here is my email: nocomment777777@gmail.com.
Send me yours, i will send you the document with the exact page when I have enough time to do the research.


I have my maths to attend to. i only opened this account because that christistruth00 was operating a scam while using a document which i provided.
I just couldn't stand the fake translation being peddled around by christistruth00.
You should all know that christistruth00 knew the truth, he wasn't being ignorant I previously made a full and accurate translation of the text before his very eyes. He just chose to lie and prey on the gullible people.
this is what i don't like about the yoruba, the yoruba lie as if that is their religion. It is as if they get training on telling lies right from birth.

My purpose with this account is done, I will soon deactivate it

gregyboy:
Osamede4life@gmail.com

Ofemannnu:
I just love the way you have destroyed the lies of the Benin migrants in Lagos step by step.Kudos bro.

NextD18:
I don't think so, I personally think Lagos state belongs to Tinubu and his household.

He's their god and has the power to decide what will happen and what won't happen.

People of South West should just create out a special new tribe for their god and personal savior Tinubu.

gregyboy:
Is a she, and she is the worst lier yourubas got the rest are trollers

The lifes of Balogunodua, ideodoctor and co

gregyboy:
Is a she, and she is the worst lier yourubas got the rest are trollers

The lifes of Balogunodua, ideodoctor and co

Ok, noted.

Ideadoctor:
let be logical,If Lagos indeed belongs to the Benin then why do Yoruba dominate Lagos today, was it that the Yoruba conquered the indigenous Edo settlers or Yoruba's were the indigenous settler,if Benin agree with the first thesis,then they should take heart,because lagos is gone for Good, Yoruba's won't open their eyes and watch you capture their big meat, but if Benin disagrees with the first thesis and support the second, then they are thieves that deserved to be hanged or shot,but if Benin does not agree with the first and second thesis, let them propose the third .

gregyboy:
No wonder you having difficulties in comprehending it you're not even fully Yoruba

TimeManager:
Lagos also belong to the Portuguese, after all, they called it Lagos.

kiss the truth!

TAO11:
(1) Ulsheimer’s report as cited above states clearly that this settlement of the Bini immigrants was confined to only one island.

In other words, these Bini immigrants settled NOT on all the islands in Lagos, neither did they settle on the mainland.


(2) Ulsheimer’s report (as cited above) states clearly that this settlement of the Bini immigrants (which is on the island) was a frontier settlement.

In other words, this Bini settlement lies on the border of (at least) two other settlements on that island.

(3) Ulsheimer’s report as cited above names this settlement of the Bini immigrants as ”Lago”.

In other words, “Lago” was just one settlement (wherein the Bini immigrants lived) among others’ settlements on that island.

(4) Ulsheimer’s report shows that as at the year 1603 when he (Ulsheirmer) visited the island, he already met the Bini immigrants already living on the island — within a fairly large fenced settlement.

In other words, Ulsheimer was not an eyewitness to how the Bini immigrants first penetrated into Lagos from Benin.

In other words, he has no information (eyewitness or even otherwise) regarding whether the Binis penetrated into the island (from Benin) by warfare.

Neither does he have any information on whether they acquired the settlement from the native people by means of some peaceful negotiation.

(5) Regardless of how they originally acquired their settlement (by conquest or by peaceful negotiation with the natives) the settlement — as at the time of Ulsheimer’s visit — was already the exclusive property of the Binis.

(6) The only writings which came to make the first statements on the manner of acquisition of their settlement are writings from the year 1878, 1914, 1929, and 1952.

(7) The 1878, 1914, and 1929 writings are known by historians as the Lagos account — and these three all agree that the Binis acquired their settlement on the Island by means of a peaceful negotiation with the native owners, the Aworis.

[See attached for an excerpt from the 1929 recollection of the Lagos account].

(8 ) It wasn’t until the year 1952 (decades after the Lagos account have been published by British colonial authorities) that a Benin Chief by the name J. U. Egharevba came up with his reactive account that the Binis acquired the Lagos settlement by warfare.

(9) It is clear who was narrating an account unconditionally, and who woke up decades later (without any prior evidence) to react that it wasn’t so.

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Ideadoctor:
if you say so,but the fact is that they can never claim it, na we get am,you need to understand that

Praxis758:
It's in your dream that Oba of Benin responded in this manner. I'm sure you weren't born then.

Don't be pained, Oba of Benin gladly and historically accepted the Ooni's statement.

I'm sure you can't deny the truth that the earlier Obas of Benin had their burial tombs in Ile-Ife. The site is called 'Orun Oba Ado' till today.

You guys (Benins) are Ife descendants, that's why your late Obas' head were being taken to Ife for interment because we Yorubas belief that a Prince's head shouldn't sleep outside.

TimeManager:
But Koname people say na dem get eko
Pls, from Edo to Lagos is how many kilometers?

kiss the truth!

Unclekayfarms:
Are u fully Benin BTW? Hell no

The early Binis are South westerners later known as YORUBAS not the someone like u, an adulterated ones mixed with Igodomigodo and sub Edo tribes like you

Ideadoctor:
kilometres and people is not my business, my business is that Yorubas as settled in Lagos and they had ceased the sit of power,nothing matters to me than that.

TimeManager:
But Koname people say na dem get eko
Pls, from Edo to Lagos is how many kilometers?

kiss the truth!

Unclekayfarms:
The truth is the early Benin are Ife descendant..especially the ones Oranmiyan reign over in Benin. The ones today are mixed Benin...they have now embraced the conquered Igodomigodo language and culture but still refer to themselves as Binis

TimeManager:
I'm sorry sir, the argument of the Benin indigenes is that when they arrived, they only met sands and stones

kiss the truth!

gregyboy:
This one is mad,


Wake up benin-ife never existed pre colonial times after amalgamation the benin-ife history emerged to merge benin into Yoruba territory


Wakeup again, yorubas claiming Oduduwa origin is also false


Wakeup young man.... Ooni was a chief priest who worshiped a non existing idol called Oduduwa

Wakeup ooni of Ife was elevated by awolowo to be a king



What do you want me to do spoon feed you half yoruba dude


You're just a troll

Neither are fully Yoruba, or a yoruba from ife, but then you jump to defend Yoruba because you want to troll for fun

Fuckkk off bro

Praxis758:
It's in your dream that Oba of Benin responded in this manner. I'm sure you weren't born then.

Don't be pained, Oba of Benin gladly and historically accepted the Ooni's statement.

I'm sure you can't deny the truth that the earlier Obas of Benin had their burial tombs in Ile-Ife. The site is called 'Orun Oba Ado' till today.

You guys (Benins) are Ife descendants, that's why your late Obas' head were being taken to Ife for interment because we Yorubas belief that a Prince's head shouldn't sleep outside.

Unclekayfarms:
Now listen, it has been in existence orally by fable, by stories from one generation to another. During pre-colonial times it was unwritten as a result of Educational barriers. However it as long been believe that Benin are Yoruba over 1000 years ago among a native tribes igodomigodo by the Yoruba people.

Ideadoctor:
we rule Lagos, that is all that matters, we will sit and watch you agitate for Lagos, and we will laugh at your helplessness, we ain't your mate,we take actions you do the talking.

gregyboy:
This one is mad,


Wake up benin-ife never existed pre colonial times after amalgamation the benin-ife history emerged to merge benin into Yoruba territory


Wakeup again, yorubas claiming Oduduwa origin is also false


Wakeup young man.... Ooni was a chief priest who worshiped a non existing idol called Oduduwa

Wakeup ooni of Ife was elevated by awolowo to be a king



What do you want me to do spoon feed you half yoruba dude


You're just a troll

Neither are fully Yoruba, or a yoruba from ife, but then you jump to defend Yoruba because you want to troll for fun

Fuckkk off bro

gregyboy:
Ooh. The entire benins are Yorubas is that what you mean


I need to explain this your history, am liking it, please expand

gregyboy:
Lol tell him

gregyboy:
Two Yorubas mumuing themselves ideodoctor

Ideadoctor:
if you can walk up to the Ooni and declare him a chief priest not a king,I will count your opinion to be valid, or if you are to afraid to do that,you can go meet the press and tell them that there is an error somewhere, that Ooni is not a king but a priest, but if you can't then FEM, don't disrespect the stool that your father worshipped and feared, small boy.

TimeManager:
But Koname people say na dem get eko
Pls, from Edo to Lagos is how many kilometers?

kiss the truth!

Unclekayfarms:
Yes. The original early ones I.e in the days of Oranmiyan, Eweka.

Many Ife soldiers also migrated to igodomigodo to defend Oba title as against the Ogisos. And fought for Yoruba interest