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Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by snowball11(m): 9:48pm On Jan 24, 2021
AlhajiImam:
Allah owns every land. If we are to pay, we use the money as alms to help our people and the almajirai.

People should stop claiming ownership of lands. It's a natural Allah given resource to be used by all.



Look at the reasoning of this one, very shallow. Yen, yen owns every land, hence you will guide your cattle towards someone else farm to destroy his crops? Yeye dey smell! undecided

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Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by offset67(m): 9:56pm On Jan 24, 2021
AlhajiImam:
Allah owns every land. If we are to pay, we use the money as alms to help our people and the almajirai.

People should stop claiming ownership of lands. It's a natural Allah given resource to be used by all.
Allah kill you there idiot

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Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by tunize(m): 10:02pm On Jan 24, 2021
AlhajiImam:
Allah owns every land. If we are to pay, we use the money as alms to help our people and the almajirai.

People should stop claiming ownership of lands. It's a natural Allah given resource to be used by all.
So Allah owns everyland and as such anybody can just come into your community rape your women, kidnap ur child or anyone for ransom and kill too? You see this una mentality and know know is the reason behind the backward nature of your ppl if you are an Hausa man. Allah owns all the land, but the lands are in ppl's State and community, villages e.t.c and these ppl in question are caretakers of this land by such doing u do not invade put take pernission before use.Bros think before u open ur mouth dey talk anyhow.

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Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Simeon88(m): 10:33pm On Jan 24, 2021
AlhajiImam:


Is Miyetti Allah police, DSS or army? Is it there duty to go after criminals?
That's why people will always tag them with those evil crimes. If they want to conduct their business in the forest, they should be ready to flush out the evil kidnappers in those forest or leave the forest so the security agents can flush then out. Please as a security agent, how do you differential between a good and bad herdsman in the forest?
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by saaron(m): 10:52pm On Jan 24, 2021
Taqiya (Lies and Deception) is indeed the most used tool of warfare by terrorist.
Here is one fulani taqiya practitioner making a crocodile stand against open grazing. If open grazing is an issue to fulanis, how did hausas became fulani slaves in 1804 to date? Are Hausas in total control of their own land today?
Believe fulanis at your own peril.
Open grazing and Cows have absolutely nothing to do with fulani terrorists genocidal activities in Nigeria.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by harjay1986: 11:10pm On Jan 24, 2021
AlhajiImam:
Allah owns every land. If we are to pay, we use the money as alms to help our people and the almajirai.

People should stop claiming ownership of lands. It's a natural Allah given resource to be used by all.


May thunder fire you there, can you go to europe and say the same thing that ALLAH owns every land, or just go to the near by country and say the samething with you not obeying the law in that area , we understand that GOD own everything but he gives everyone his or her own portion can I come down to any nothern state and say the same thing I can only do so if am good with sharia law, imergin the so call north that destroy every bar and clubs but when such outlet pay tax from the south they will claim the highest percentage wating una,dey do with ogogoro money stupid hipo

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Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by haaryobhami: 11:31pm On Jan 24, 2021
seunmsg:


Have you been kidnapping, raping and killing people since then?
u are criticising Fulani barbaric believe,who hacked ur account?
M surprised sha
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by AmDayo: 11:45pm On Jan 24, 2021
AlhajiImam:


Before the land use act of the 70's, have we not been grazing and making use of the land in southwest?

Grazing in our land and causing us harm. you are a schmuck.
Can I come to sokoto to established a pig business?
your bigotry mind won't deceit you from wallowing crap. You guys are supporter of APC,you keep claiming the most holiest and your atrocities and sins is next to Satan.

It's a pity your region is poverty and retard region in Nigeria.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by EMMY76: 12:16am On Jan 25, 2021
So this aboki get sense like this? Hope his brothers will listen him.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Charly68: 12:22am On Jan 25, 2021
God gives some of you sense my brother,that is the impart of modern education ..to think digitally at this age is a task ..all those useless leaders who enslaved their followers by deliberately refused to empower them think they can continue to propagate their theory of poverty and extend it to the west and south ..they are liars
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by EMMY76: 12:36am On Jan 25, 2021
SchmidtHammer:
I spoke to my father-in-law,a Fulani man himself, a while ago (due to my personal relationship with him, this was the first time I have ever considered the farmers-herders clashes from the perspective of a Fulani man), he explained certain delicate and complex intricacies that makes the proposed ranching system, that used to me a very straightforward one, now seem quite problematic IN THIS PRESENT MOMENT.
The laws in our constitution are not the laws of nature. These laws, as stated in our constitution, are created considering human peculiarities, such that 'general' beliefs even though inclined towards sentiments, as long as they are adopted by a represented reasonable minority and such that IT IS POSSIBLE THERE COULD BE A WAY AROUND THEM with the conditios that it does not threaten the ORDER in the country and the fundamental rights of others (the majority) is not infringed upon.
Having stated the above, it is easy to see that the problem with the proposed Ranching System is that while it is a very logically straightforward solution, it is not the most considerate, therefore not the most appropriate (at least in the short term) and using a method analogous the Occam's Razor for solutions in politics and human relations is unreasonable in my opinion. Open cattle rearing is a culture and proposing a change in this culture must be approached as sensitively as other important cultures of the other tribes. One does not expect that a culture be abandoned overnight, nor that laws guiding a country be entirely insensitive to the peculiarities of the people bound under it.
As in developed worlds, these are the kinds of problems that are confronted by Political scientists, Economic analysts and sociologists, putting forward a comprehensive and in-depth analysis of THE PROBLEM OF HERDERS in the country.

This is just total gibberish the fulanis have no other choice than to adapt to modern day way of ranching cattle where in the world even here in africa are herdsers allowed to freely roam around with cattles eating up crops and destroying the farmlands of hard working farmers who don't have any other means of survival? The only thing that is constant in life is change if u refuse to change and adapt ur species or tribe will surely go into existintion there is no arguement about this even science have proven this time and time again.

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Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Nobody: 12:44am On Jan 25, 2021
Does Nigeria even look like its in the 21st Century?? stupid talk, after stealing money unreasonably you forgot you were in the 21st century, useless set of individuals.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by EMMY76: 12:45am On Jan 25, 2021
Arewa1stSon:
I blame our leaders!!
I strongly blame our leaders for refusing to modernize cow Bussiness!
One cow Cost not less than 300k!!

Our fulani leaders failed woefully to upgrade this business instead we keep using archaic style that is today causing unnecessary tensions and blackmail.

Imagine if we don't have herdsmen in the south??
No brainless... Lazy animals would have been chasing after herders and chest beating for dealing with the Great jallohs!!

we have to stop open Grazing and modernize our Bussiness... Add more value to it... And increase the prize!!

My Generation have alot of works to do!!
We have to stop herdersmen from randomly grazing in the bush.
I really want all southern governors to help us evict all herdsmen in their region!

The southners should do that for us.... We want the cow Bussiness back to the north and modernized!

Enough of all these dramas and politics!! Evict all herdsmen so that your region will be free from skull mining, cultism, robbery, ritualists, fraudsters and hoodlums!

I really want the south to succeed on this....it's for our own good!!

Our leaders must wake up and learn in the hard way!!
Look at how they've used the media to demonized and criminalized the whole Fulanis.

Our fathers failed the north!!

I can't wait to mount into the corridor of power!!


Ur greedy northern fulani leaders really failed u guys the greed for the free crude oil money in the south really blinded and confused them.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by EMMY76: 12:54am On Jan 25, 2021
AlhajiImam:


Before the land use act of the 70's, have we not been grazing and making use of the land in southwest?


Nigeria was almagamated in 1914 before this almagamation yoruba and other ethnic groups in the south have been occuping their lands for centuries if not even thausands of years.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by PenSniper: 1:08am On Jan 25, 2021
SchmidtHammer:
I spoke to my father-in-law,a Fulani man himself, a while ago (due to my personal relationship with him, this was the first time I have ever considered the farmers-herders clashes from the perspective of a Fulani man), he explained certain delicate and complex intricacies that makes the proposed ranching system, that used to me a very straightforward one, now seem quite problematic IN THIS PRESENT MOMENT.
The laws in our constitution are not the laws of nature. These laws, as stated in our constitution, are created considering human peculiarities, such that 'general' beliefs even though inclined towards sentiments, as long as they are adopted by a represented reasonable minority and such that IT IS POSSIBLE THERE COULD BE A WAY AROUND THEM with the conditios that it does not threaten the ORDER in the country and the fundamental rights of others (the majority) is not infringed upon.
Having stated the above, it is easy to see that the problem with the proposed Ranching System is that while it is a very logically straightforward solution, it is not the most considerate, therefore not the most appropriate (at least in the short term) and using a method analogous the Occam's Razor for solutions in politics and human relations is unreasonable in my opinion. Open cattle rearing is a culture and proposing a change in this culture must be approached as sensitively as other important cultures of the other tribes. One does not expect that a culture be abandoned overnight, nor that laws guiding a country be entirely insensitive to the peculiarities of the people bound under it.
As in developed worlds, these are the kinds of problems that are confronted by Political scientists, Economic analysts and sociologists, putting forward a comprehensive and in-depth analysis of THE PROBLEM OF HERDERS in the country.

Gibberish.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Tecno66: 1:42am On Jan 25, 2021
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by hush15: 1:45am On Jan 25, 2021
SchmidtHammer:
I spoke to my father-in-law,a Fulani man himself, a while ago (due to my personal relationship with him, this was the first time I have ever considered the farmers-herders clashes from the perspective of a Fulani man), he explained certain delicate and complex intricacies that makes the proposed ranching system, that used to me a very straightforward one, now seem quite problematic IN THIS PRESENT MOMENT.
The laws in our constitution are not the laws of nature. These laws, as stated in our constitution, are created considering human peculiarities, such that 'general' beliefs even though inclined towards sentiments, as long as they are adopted by a represented reasonable minority and such that IT IS POSSIBLE THERE COULD BE A WAY AROUND THEM with the conditios that it does not threaten the ORDER in the country and the fundamental rights of others (the majority) is not infringed upon.
Having stated the above, it is easy to see that the problem with the proposed Ranching System is that while it is a very logically straightforward solution, it is not the most considerate, therefore not the most appropriate (at least in the short term) and using a method analogous the Occam's Razor for solutions in politics and human relations is unreasonable in my opinion. Open cattle rearing is a culture and proposing a change in this culture must be approached as sensitively as other important cultures of the other tribes. One does not expect that a culture be abandoned overnight, nor that laws guiding a country be entirely insensitive to the peculiarities of the people bound under it.
As in developed worlds, these are the kinds of problems that are confronted by Political scientists, Economic analysts and sociologists, putting forward a comprehensive and in-depth analysis of THE PROBLEM OF HERDERS in the country.

But cultures evolved. Times changes everything. There were days were culture abhorred twins, today the story is different. There were days when culture was through apprenticeship but today we have the four corners of schools. There were days of man is the head of the house, today all gender are equal. Culture evolves and so must the people and if they want to maintain their culture and not change, then they must also know that they are not the only custodian of culture and should and must respect other people's culture. Especially when they are not indigenous to the land. Can the move to Ghana and be claiming culture, they have to respect Ghanaians culture there too.

So it's not an excuse per say. Killing, kidnapping and extorting their hosts is not culture. They should stop it or move out.

When you are in Rome, you do like a roman

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Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by dinggle: 1:48am On Jan 25, 2021
SchmidtHammer:
I spoke to my father-in-law,a Fulani man himself, a while ago (due to my personal relationship with him, this was the first time I have ever considered the farmers-herders clashes from the perspective of a Fulani man), he explained certain delicate and complex intricacies that makes the proposed ranching system, that used to me a very straightforward one, now seem quite problematic IN THIS PRESENT MOMENT.
The laws in our constitution are not the laws of nature. These laws, as stated in our constitution, are created considering human peculiarities, such that 'general' beliefs even though inclined towards sentiments, as long as they are adopted by a represented reasonable minority and such that IT IS POSSIBLE THERE COULD BE A WAY AROUND THEM with the conditios that it does not threaten the ORDER in the country and the fundamental rights of others (the majority) is not infringed upon.
Having stated the above, it is easy to see that the problem with the proposed Ranching System is that while it is a very logically straightforward solution, it is not the most considerate, therefore not the most appropriate (at least in the short term) and using a method analogous the Occam's Razor for solutions in politics and human relations is unreasonable in my opinion. Open cattle rearing is a culture and proposing a change in this culture must be approached as sensitively as other important cultures of the other tribes. One does not expect that a culture be abandoned overnight, nor that laws guiding a country be entirely insensitive to the peculiarities of the people bound under it.
As in developed worlds, these are the kinds of problems that are confronted by Political scientists, Economic analysts and sociologists, putting forward a comprehensive and in-depth analysis of THE PROBLEM OF HERDERS in the country.

The culture of every tribe in Nigeria was bent by British invasion and British laws, Fulanis must bend or go to hell! Southerners are prolonging this beast!
1. Send Fulanis packing from Southern Nigeria, they should go and ranch up North.
2. Stop eating cows, Southerners who eat cows financially empower fulanis to buy weapons and import terrorist to kill Southerners
3. Patronize fish, chicken and pigs, by doing this we empower ourselves financially for the battle ahead.
4. Be mentally ready for war enough of this nonsense.
5. All Southerners must be ready to fight shoulder to shoulder, an attack anywhere in the South is an attack on all South.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by 5thcolm(m): 2:03am On Jan 25, 2021
SchmidtHammer:
I spoke to my father-in-law,a Fulani man himself, a while ago (due to my personal relationship with him, this was the first time I have ever considered the farmers-herders clashes from the perspective of a Fulani man), he explained certain delicate and complex intricacies that makes the proposed ranching system, that used to me a very straightforward one, now seem quite problematic IN THIS PRESENT MOMENT.
The laws in our constitution are not the laws of nature. These laws, as stated in our constitution, are created considering human peculiarities, such that 'general' beliefs even though inclined towards sentiments, as long as they are adopted by a represented reasonable minority and such that IT IS POSSIBLE THERE COULD BE A WAY AROUND THEM with the conditios that it does not threaten the ORDER in the country and the fundamental rights of others (the majority) is not infringed upon.
Having stated the above, it is easy to see that the problem with the proposed Ranching System is that while it is a very logically straightforward solution, it is not the most considerate, therefore not the most appropriate (at least in the short term) and using a method analogous the Occam's Razor for solutions in politics and human relations is unreasonable in my opinion. Open cattle rearing is a culture and proposing a change in this culture must be approached as sensitively as other important cultures of the other tribes. One does not expect that a culture be abandoned overnight, nor that laws guiding a country be entirely insensitive to the peculiarities of the people bound under it.
As in developed worlds, these are the kinds of problems that are confronted by Political scientists, Economic analysts and sociologists, putting forward a comprehensive and in-depth analysis of THE PROBLEM OF HERDERS in the country.

What kind of nonsense talk is this.

No be only culture.

So all other tribes that stopped cultures that don't align to the modern days are fools abi.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by MrSquint: 3:55am On Jan 25, 2021
Seems like we still have some sane ones from that region.

Hope I'm not too quick in making this assertion though
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by 4four(m): 4:21am On Jan 25, 2021
AlhajiImam:


Every society have their culture and their traditions
then it is against our own law, culture and tradition for herders to be moving about with their herds in out streets, bushes and forest freely and we also place premium to human life
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by tegrianonigltd(m): 5:30am On Jan 25, 2021
AlhajiImam:
Allah owns every land. If we are to pay, we use the money as alms to help our people and the almajirai.

People should stop claiming ownership of lands. It's a natural Allah given resource to be used by all.


When you travel abroad or the so-called dubai you and your forefathers travel to, don't you enjoy the sight of the beautiful place, I don’t get, you riff rafts, even South Africa, Abidjan, etc dont do that. Open grazing stopped in the developed world centuries ago.

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Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by 4four(m): 5:37am On Jan 25, 2021
SchmidtHammer:


This is obviously the failure of your state governments. This is basically a security issue, as simple as that. It is the duty of the government to protect the interests of ALL well meaning Nigerians, farmers and herders alike. Your state governors are obviously terribly failing in their duties as it is now.
but Ondo state govt was trying to
evacuate all the illegal headsmen from his Forrest and get legal one documented inorder to differentiate btw the bad one and good one but ur people are still foaming for mouth, the same thing Benue state try to enact but ur people in the federal corridors of power frustrate his effort, the major problems is that u people jst want to hold on to this Una barbarians culture without want to twist it to fit into modern time. If we want to come up with ideas it should be realistic, u re said state government is the chief security officer of his state, simple questions for u: who is in charge of the securities apparatus from civil defence down to Nigeria armies? (2) did we even have enough man powers to polices those of us that stay in residential? talkless policing Forrest. The best solution is that fulanis should ranch their herds and live in the residential just as it is been practice all over the world, we are no more in 1850s, this is 2021, culture is evolving everyday. It is only wild animals that stay and live in Forrest, any human being that live in the forest will have similar traits like wild animals, that is why average fulanis herdsmen see nothing wrong destroying somebody farms and properties, rapping and killing indigenous people, kidnappings for Ransom of the local

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Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by 4four(m): 5:58am On Jan 25, 2021
AlhajiImam:


Is Miyetti Allah police, DSS or army? Is it there duty to go after criminals?
then lets indigenous defend their selves as they dim it fit, since our securities apparatus is seem not in existence because I will not jst folds my hand and looking at some barbarians killing my kins men in the name of their lunatic culture. Almost all the indigenous people in core north are now living in IDP center jst because some lunatic culture, we down south can not wait to that level of dehumaned
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Difrent: 6:02am On Jan 25, 2021
dumahi:
OK. Sensible. This is my first time of seeing one of them saying the obvious truth that should have been said since. I'm afraid he's trying to manipulate us into thinking he cares. Otherwise, why now? In any case, better late than never.

Nigerians are warned not to lose their guard due to such rhetoric from them because they are master manipulators. Instead, click here & read this thread entitled "Easier-Than-imagined Way To Overcome The Herder Tribe In Nigeria"

MANIPULATION, DOMINATION and "development"

Three words synonymous with Ibos and fulanis
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Rolly22(m): 6:16am On Jan 25, 2021
Built2last:
Buhari will divide Nigeria. He will be the last president of a united Nigeria.

Since the North dont trust the west or east, they will try to hold on to power by all means in 2023. The southern leaders will be more united to kick against it and that will mark the beginning of the end for the British child called Nigeria.


Well stated.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Jabosca(m): 6:51am On Jan 25, 2021
Full stop!
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by h2selectronics(m): 7:42am On Jan 25, 2021
AlhajiImam:
Allah owns every land. If we are to pay, we use the money as alms to help our people and the almajirai.

People should stop claiming ownership of lands. It's a natural Allah given resource to be used by all.

Yes, Allah owns every land but He puts some in people's possession. So, to make use of such land, we either rent, lease or purchase the land from those in possession of it.

"And eat up not one another's property unjustly (in any illegal way e.g. stealing, robbing, deceiving, etc.)," Quran Chapter 2: Verse 188.
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Kraytur: 8:56am On Jan 25, 2021
Infiltration using cows and herders and traders is all a plan to conquer the south and eastern parts of the country Adamu garba is tryna downplay the herders brouhaha so that their plans won’t be sabotaged this the best way I see it !!...
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by sojfarm: 11:04am On Jan 25, 2021
Mr Garba Fulani. There is no amount manipulations that change anything.

You people farm vegetables in the North, so do your cow business in the North. A lot of rich men have ranches in the South West too. Our cities are meant for human being not COW FULANI that used to compete with cars on our road.

Very soon Cows will be voting, cow will become INEC personnel
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by abeggnow: 11:37am On Jan 25, 2021
Wiseandtrue:

If not that they are trying to forment trouble, is this not common sense

Even they don't need the help of the Fulanis living in the city, there's more than enough land in Sambisa! They should go there
sambisa is not Fulani land but more of Kanuri or any of the bornu tribes
Re: Adamu Garba: Cows Shouldn’t Be Roaming About In 21st Century by Arizonaguy(m): 2:13pm On Jan 25, 2021
AlhajiImam:
Allah owns every land. If we are to pay, we use the money as alms to help our people and the almajirai.

People should stop claiming ownership of lands. It's a natural Allah given resource to be used by all.
Are there no Allah's lands in the north. Use those and stop looking for trouble
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