Daughterboard:


We are not here because we have been hurt (victims) but because we are men. Why are you here?

Saw her emotive reasoning , trying to bait us into weakness, appealing to our instinct to be protectors,to allow feelings supercede facts, her solipsistic rationalization hamster is built on raw irrationality and straw man's arguments,composed solely on emotional appeal rather than logic or reason, she doesn't have any clue the kind of men she's dealing with

BLOODYSPERM:



Saw her emotive reasoning , trying to bait us into weakness, appealing to our instinct to be protectors,to allow feelings supercede facts, her solipsistic rationalization hamster is built on raw irrationality,composed solely on emotional appeal rather than logic or reason, she doesn't have any clue the kind of men she's dealing with

guess she's disappointed. who even have her time. we wey be say naa blood (red)dey every eyes.

dontai:
guess she's disappointed. who even have her time. we wey be say naa blood (red)dey every eyes.

Lolzzz
Abi

Concerning the redpill, and the tendency of kids to reward their mothers more often than their father, I am here to share a pathetic story of a close friend.
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So this guy's pops is a classic dead beat dad. A nonchalant and an irresponsible human, whose only mission is to bang as much damaged women (widowed women and disgraced ex wives) as possible.
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He spends recklessly on these women. Although he's take home is quite huge, this man has absolutely nothing to show for it, not even a decent house in the village. His kids from numerous women nko? Absolutely nothing to show. Zero investments in his children. In fact, I'll say he's none existent in their lives. Just the kids and their mothers struggling to fend for themselves, while the randy man goes looking for damaged women to sink his resources into.


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There are some men out there who are sorry excuses of people with pen!s. It's a very pathetic story and I'll just have to spare you guys a few details.
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Now would you blame my paddy if things turn around for him tomorrow and he ghosts his pops while showering all his goodies on his mother who has basically been the one sponsoring him in every of his life endeavors?

IronPants:
Concerning the redpill, and the tendency of kids to reward their mothers more often than their father, I am here to share a pathetic story of a close friend.
.
So this guy's pops is a classic dead beat dad. A nonchalant and an irresponsible human, whose only mission is to bang as much damaged women (widowed women and disgraced ex wives) as possible.
.
He spends recklessly on these women. Although he's take home is quite huge, this man has absolutely nothing to show for it, not even a decent house in the village. His kids from numerous women nko? Absolutely nothing to show. Zero investments in his children. In fact, I'll say he's none existent in their lives. Just the kids and their mothers struggling to fend for themselves, while the randy man goes looking for damaged women to sink his resources into.


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Now would you blame my paddy if things turn around for him tomorrow and he ghosts his pops while showering all his goodies on his mother who has basically been the one sponsoring him in every of his life endeavors?

Your story is an outlier event and can't be used to hastily generalize all fathers, fatherhood is not just a position of responsiblity but it's also a symbolic representation of order in civilization,
Sure your friend can give gratitude to whom gratitude is due ,which is his mother but these nevertheless can't replace the necessity of a father functioning in his home and his society

BLOODYSPERM:



Your story is an outlier event and can't be used to hastily generalize all fathers, fatherhood is not just a position of responsiblity but it's also a symbolic representation of order in civilization,
Sure your friend can give gratitude to whom gratitude is due ,which is his mother but these nevertheless can't replace the necessity of a father functioning in his home and his society

Seems you didn't get it. The father was never present in his life, in his home to start with.

IronPants:



Seems you didn't get it. The father was never present in his life, in his home to start with.

Don't react, you have to respond, apply logic and reason and don't let emotions cloud your judgement, his father was irresponsible, and negligent, it happened, nothing he could do about it,does that mean he downplays the role of fatherhood in family and society because of his fathers foolish path and make his mother fill up that position because she was there for him, objectively no, emotionally yes, but we work with rationality in the redpill community and we are also ethical , he should thank his mother for being there for him , nevertheless he should not make the assumption she can be a father, she's a woman and will never know what being a man entails , these pure FACTS and nothing can change them

In my journey in women's world, I realized that the ones that you treat trashy, nonchalant, uncared, unloved, etc. Will love you more and more.
But you see those that you put on Pedestal, worship, given undue attention, validation, spent on? They won't love you back, they are just there for the goodies, the day there's no more goodies you'll see them no more.

IronPants:



Seems you didn't get it. The father was never present in his life, in his home to start with.

So what is your point? That all fathers are irresponsible and therefore deserve little or no care from their children??

Well your story is just an outlier. We see many responsible fathers who provided for their families and were present in their childrens life everyday being neglected. most times, It is always about the mothers because the children are usually brainwashed and manipulated from a very young age by these moms. Not till i started having responsibilities as a man and became redpilled, i never appreciated my dad's efforts.

IronPants:
Concerning the redpill, and the tendency of kids to reward their mothers more often than their father, I am here to share a pathetic story of a close friend.
.
So this guy's pops is a classic dead beat dad. A nonchalant and an irresponsible human, whose only mission is to bang as much damaged women (widowed women and disgraced ex wives) as possible.
.
He spends recklessly on these women. Although he's take home is quite huge, this man has absolutely nothing to show for it, not even a decent house in the village. His kids from numerous women nko? Absolutely nothing to show. Zero investments in his children. In fact, I'll say he's none existent in their lives. Just the kids and their mothers struggling to fend for themselves, while the randy man goes looking for damaged women to sink his resources into.


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There are some men out there who are sorry excuses of people with pen!s. It's a very pathetic story and I'll just have to spare you guys a few details.
.

Now would you blame my paddy if things turn around for him tomorrow and he ghosts his pops while showering all his goodies on his mother who has basically been the one sponsoring him in every of his life endeavors?

That's 10 in a hundred, likewise we have many mothers who are like that also.

We are not talking of deadbeat or a defaulter, but men who used all their life to serve the woman and children in the name of good father or I'm providing for my house.

who will be spent quickly, or be bedridden in no time. while the woman will still be ayounge(young).

my mom used to say 'omo so ti je ni kin see omo sho yo' (child have you eaten is the key, not are you satisfied), I first taught she was insensitive with those words. now I understand it's the key of living long. why? ok lemme explain:

I now realize you can't satisfied anyone, the more you tried the more you believe you own them more, the more they ask you for more, that is how the cycles continue, till one doesn't have anything to give anymore. and they moved to the next available victim (I called it victim because they are only using you by egging you on in your foolishness, while they hoard and treasure theirs).

like someone who have a car and make sure he makes his friends happy, driving them to the club and buying all the drinks when they kept hailing him as a good friend. some years latter his car is getting old and retirement on the track, but friends are buying new cars and moving into thier houses. though he earn more than them, but his biggest undoing is wanting to do more than his capability and try to impress society that he's a big baller by being the only one paying the bill.

that spender now is the father getting old in retirement, while the friends are mother and children. Their new house and car is thier new life and status he help them achieved.

Korllami007:


In the end, the woman will take the glory when her kids buy her car or build house for her. People seeing the gesture will automatically think that the father is useless and she single-handedly raised the kids. Not knowing that dem don use papa, he don wear off, and he's below 6 ft in the ground. If you live to see the day, they'll use "not bonding with the kids" to sideline you after years of slavery to take care of the kids. Before you see 40k from your kids, mama don see 500k. The funniest part is that you will still spend the 40k to take care of bills in the house while she spend her own money on herself.

Fatherhood is a thankless job

Words melt my heart and make me pity myself and other MEN.

NYCnextStop:
most times, It is always about the mothers because the children are usually brainwashed and manipulated from a very young age by these moms. Not till i started having responsibilities as a man and became redpilled, i never appreciated my dad's efforts.

I'd be quoting this statement because it's important for Everyman to understand it. I used to think my late dad was lackadaisical when I was a simp.

I've come to realize recently as a redpiller that our mother's manipulation made me thought that way.

He was a natural redpiller and I always thought he was a bad person prior to knowing redpill.

Now I'm learning the ways of a superior man on my own, big thanks to y'all. And its so obvious to the extent that my mother complained recently that I've changed.

She thought she raised dumb simp.

emmaodet:
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Hmmmmmm
This statement really touched me this morning.
As if the message is for me. Sometimes, i do think how far i would have gone if single.
Most feminist say that marriage is like slavery to women but the truth is that marriage is more of slavery and bondage to men.
How will you work all your life for others - mostly wife, kids, gfs, inlaws etc
I make close to 10m per year but hardly buy clothes or things for myself worth 100k per year. Don't even remember the last time i took myself out or do good shopping.
It's always from one bill to other, unending bills waiting at the end of the month to attend to.
Also, when a man dies, a woman who came into the marriage with a one suitcase will now co-own your house, other properties, cars, money and feminist say it is slavery to women?
For this comment, bro drop your number let me send you 2k recharge card this morning

Please take of your self.... Your health and life are important. Problem no dey finish

NYCnextStop:
So what is your point? That all fathers are irresponsible and therefore deserve little or no care from their children??

Well your story is just an outlier. We see many responsible fathers who provided for their families and were present in their childrens life everyday being neglected. most times, It is always about the mothers because the children are usually brainwashed and manipulated from a very young age by these moms. Not till i started having responsibilities as a man and became redpilled, i never appreciated my dad's efforts.

sentiments apart, fathers are the real unsung heroes of most families.

IronPants:
Concerning the redpill, and the tendency of kids to reward their mothers more often than their father, I am here to share a pathetic story of a close friend.
.
So this guy's pops is a classic dead beat dad. A nonchalant and an irresponsible human, whose only mission is to bang as much damaged women (widowed women and disgraced ex wives) as possible.
.
He spends recklessly on these women. Although he's take home is quite huge, this man has absolutely nothing to show for it, not even a decent house in the village. His kids from numerous women nko? Absolutely nothing to show. Zero investments in his children. In fact, I'll say he's none existent in their lives. Just the kids and their mothers struggling to fend for themselves, while the randy man goes looking for damaged women to sink his resources into.


.
There are some men out there who are sorry excuses of people with pen!s. It's a very pathetic story and I'll just have to spare you guys a few details.
.

Now would you blame my paddy if things turn around for him tomorrow and he ghosts his pops while showering all his goodies on his mother who has basically been the one sponsoring him in every of his life endeavors?

Your "paddy" has the right to treat his "pops" the way he thinks he "deserves" to be treated. The red pill (regardless of whatever form it appears) in itself, has never encouraged "irresponsibility" in men. Though it highlights features that makes so-called "irresponsible" men who are mostly red-pilled "aware", very successful with women. The issues of a lot of women (in africa and among african-american women) having kids for "career" assholes and irresponsible men when they are in their fertile "prime" over responsible men explains a lot.

The questions I want you to ponder on, deeply are:

1. Your "friend's" dad seemed to be successful with women (those he spends on and doesn't spend on). Ask your self, why these women chose your "friend's" pops over numerous men who would make better providers for their families (blue-pilled or not)?.

2. How more, would he, have achieved as a man, if he didn't throw out (I wouldn't use "waste". A man's "waste" can be another man's "give-away" ) his resources in courting a lot of women who are often "unprofitable" investments in the long run?

BLOODYSPERM:


Don't react, you have to respond, apply logic and reason and don't let emotions cloud your judgement, his father was irresponsible, and negligent, it happened, nothing he could do about it,does that mean he downplays the role of fatherhood in family and society because of his fathers foolish path and make his mother fill up that position because she was there for him, objectively no, emotionally yes, but we work with rationality in the redpill community and we are also ethical , he should thank his mother for being there for him , nevertheless he should not make the assumption she can be a father, she's a woman and will never know what being a man entails , these pure FACTS and nothing can change them

So what makes one a father? The fact that he has a d!ck. We talked about gender roles here and we all lashed at feminist for trying to change the order of things.
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Before us now is a story of a man who has completely abandoned his father role. Someone who has completely dodged the masculine role and y'all are making mild excuses. Waoo
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What does a man entails in the absences of failing to fulfill the masculine role?

Skepticus:


Your "paddy" has the right to treat his "pops" the way he thinks he "deserves" to be treated. The red pill (regardless of whatever form it appears) in itself, has never encouraged "irresponsibility" in men. Though it highlights features that makes so-called "irresponsible" men who are mostly red-pilled "aware", very successful with women. The issues of a lot of women (in africa and among african-american women) having kids for "career" assholes and irresponsible men when they are in their fertile "prime" over responsible men explains a lot.

The questions I want you to ponder on, deeply are:

1. Your "friend's" dad seemed to be successful with women (those he spends on and doesn't spend on). Ask your self, why these women chose your "friend's" pops over numerous men who would make better providers for their families (SIMPs or not)?.

2. How more, would he, have achieved as a man, if he didn't throw out (I wouldn't use "waste". A man's "waste" can be another man's "give-away" his resources in courting a lot of women who are often "unprofitable" investments in the long run?

1.) The money is what he uses to get them and nothing else. Nobody go near am if ain't spending like a wild dog.
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2.) His children would have been abroad and faring even better. But today, he's almost broke cus of his failure to invest during the raining days. See I left out a lot of sensitive details due to the anonymity of this place.

soulstar09:

I'd be quoting this statement because it's important for Everyman to understand it. I used to think my late dad was lackadaisical when I was a simp.

I've come to realize recently as a redpiller that our mother's manipulation made me thought that way.

He was a natural redpiller and I always thought he was a bad person prior to knowing redpill.

Now I'm learning the ways of a superior man on my own, big thanks to y'all. And its so obvious to the extent that my mother complained recently that I've changed.

She thought she raised dumb simp.

A father's role in a family can never be overemphasized. Unfortunately, our mothers make it seem like fatherhood is a stroll in the park by their innate manipulation instincts for survival. I wish the children (men mostly) can see the sacrifices the fathers make and appreciate them more

Good to know you can see the light now. Cheers

Truth is some father's are so shitty that you will prefer to go to bed hungry than to call them your father's. but there are father's that have a good relationship with there children, that not everything their mummy Say about their daddy is true to them, because it will leave them feeling confused. because what mummy say is different, from what daddy is doing. most children who neglect their fathers come from broken homes, So to avoid this situation you can decide not to get married or to get married, and manipulate your children to love you.

IronPants:



1.) The money is what he uses to get them and nothing else. Nobody go near am if ain't spending like a wild dog.
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2.) His children would have been abroad and faring even better. But today, he's almost broke cus of his failure to invest during the raining days. See I left out a lot of sensitive details due to the anonymity of this place.

1. Even a fool or an imbe.cile (psychologically) with money will always attract women. Some women would be "smart" to take what they can (without giving much as most women do). Others would likely hang on and have kids with the hope that he would commit solely to them. It goes wrong most of the time. However, there are a lot of men who wouldn't mind being responsible for their kids without surrendering their commitments to their mothers for whatever personal reasons. These "reasons" are what you or your "paddy" would never be objectively sure of, because women would always place themselves as "victims" regardless of the true nature of the issues on ground.

2. You already answered my question (men's achievements include investment in their offsprings). No need to go into further details of your "paddy's" story.

I get the point of your initial comment. Not all men are saints. I'll clear you. Most men aren't saints. Men, often have a tag of being potentially dangerous to women. A fact that women are being raised with, by older women. One of the reasons women are very red-pilled than men by default to get around men since they do not have the physical tenacity to match men. Men are naturally considered to be aggressors. It would take some time but I'll find the link to that videoed research that a white lady with first name, Victoria did. She was costumed as a man, approaching random women and was shocked at how scared and judgemental, many women were, at strange men. She concluded that she wouldn't want the life of man for such "stress".

It's also imperative to know that women hold the key to sex. Men do not. Women, (especially the ones of today) can get the type of men they want when they are in their own sexual/social prime. Men can only get the women that come their way (blue-pilled with money, genetically-advantaged with looks, social charisma, or being red-pilled at base level). Ask your "paddy's" mother (and the other women) why they chose your "paddy's pops" (i believe your "paddy" didn't talk about his pops raping the baby mothers into having kids for him). Be objective about it. No emotions or sentiments. Bring the reasons they tell you here. The house will break it down to see how clear the issues are.

Whats all the hullabaloo about iron pants? His matter is rather straight forward. His paddys dad is a dead beat and contributed little to his life and said paddy would be right in refusing to acknowledge the man when he prospers. Shikenan. He's simply trying to show a different perspective.

Some are you are changing the subject and bringing a monolith into an isolated incident. Is it so hard to accept he has a point? Yet you try to twist the narrative to your favour. Rationality is also moral and responsible and being altruistic is in many cases the rational thing to do.

If you can't open your mouth and admit your opponent has a point and leave it at that (not buffering it with an argument in a bid to enforce the validity of your point so you can tell yourself 'i haven't lost this argument') then you aren't as logical as you think you are.

Even reason is driven by emotion. To deny this is to lack a fundamental understanding of oneself and humans by extension

@Ironpants
We ain't trying to say all men are saints here.we are just saying even if its so obvious d man sacrificed d most for his kids, at d end d woman gets all d benefifs.

Leaving d man at d loosin side despite d sacrifices made, this happenes cus women manipulate their children to favor dem d most

IronPants:



So what makes one a father? The fact that he has a d!ck. We talked about gender roles here and we all lashed at feminist for trying to change the order of things.
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Before us now is a story of a man who has completely abandoned his father role. Someone who has completely dodged the masculine role and y'all are making mild excuses. Waoo
.
What does a man entails in the absences of failing to fulfill the masculine role?

Far be it for the redpill to excuse a man's irresponsiblity in not actively partaking in his traditional gender roles of the 3'Ps(Provisioning, Parenting,Protecting)
He's an outlier,a weakling,a coward and should not be given any validation whatsoever because of his biology

While you blame the man's father for his irresponsiblity, I look at the root cause of the problem,not it's symptoms and I find out that since the world became feminized and gynocentric due to the rise of Feminism and post sexual revolution, we no longer know what masculinity entails because they redefined it for us,the role of the father has been bastardized, the father was spending foolishly on woman simply because he doesn't know that he's the Patriarch, but rather he's a weak simp who could not control his sexual urges, feminism creates weak deadbeat father's, absentee fathers, irresponsible father's and encourages the rise of single motherhood in the society,which is very counter-productive to society and civilization as a whole.


I'm not saying that he should not honour his mother,all I'm saying is that he understands the femcentric , feminine imperative order,so that he would have clarity about his final decisions
with regards to his father, and not hastily generalize all men(fathers) as potentially irresponsible,and women(mothers) as potentially responsible


No matter how responsible his mother was she will never understand or be the real masculine and can only mimic it

BLOODYSPERM:




Far be it for the redpill to excuse a man's irresponsiblity in not actively partaking in his traditional gender roles of the 3'Ps(Provisioning, Parenting,Protecting)
He's an outlier,a weakling,a coward and should not be given any validation whatsoever because of his biology

While you blame the man's father for his irresponsiblity, I look at the root cause of the problem,not it's symptoms and I find out that since the world became feminized and gynocentric due to the rise of Feminism and post sexual revolution, we no longer know what masculinity entails because they redefined it for us,the role of the father has been bastardized, the father was spending foolishly on woman simply because he doesn't know that he's the Patriarch, but rather he's a weak simp who could not control his sexual urges, feminism creates weak deadbeat father's, absentee fathers, irresponsible father's and encourages the rise of single motherhood in the society,which is very counter-productive to society and civilization as a whole.


I'm not saying that he should not honour his mother,all I'm saying is that he understands the femcentric , feminine imperative order,so that he would have clarity about his final decisions
with regards to his father, and not hastily generalize all men(fathers) as potentially irresponsible,and women(mothers) as potentially responsible


No matter how responsible his mother was she will never understand or be the real masculine and can only mimic it

I understand you better now.

Skepticus:


1. Even a fool or an imbe.cile (psychologically) with money will always attract women. Some women would be "smart" to take what they can (without giving much as most women do). Others would likely hang on and have kids with the hope that he would commit solely to them. It goes wrong most of the time. However, there are a lot of men who wouldn't mind being responsible for their kids without surrendering their commitments to their mothers for whatever personal reasons. These "reasons" are what you or your "paddy" would never be objectively sure of, because women would always place themselves as "victims" regardless of the true nature of the issues on ground.

2. You already answered my question (men's achievements include investment in their offsprings). No need to go into further details of your "paddy's" story.

I get the point of your initial comment. Not all men are saints. I'll clear you. Most men aren't saints. Men, often have a tag of being potentially dangerous to women. A fact that women are being raised with, by older women. One of the reasons women are very red-pilled than men by default to get around men since they do not have the physical tenacity to match men. Men are naturally considered to be aggressors. It would take some time but I'll find the link to that videoed research that a white lady with first name, Victoria did. She was costumed as a man, approaching random women and was shocked at how scared and judgemental, many women were, at strange men. She concluded that she wouldn't want the life of man for such "stress".

It's also imperative to know that women hold the key to sex. Men do not. Women, (especially the ones of today) can get the type of men they want when they are in their own sexual/social prime. Men can only get the women that come their way (blue-pilled with money, genetically-advantaged with looks, social charisma, or being red-pilled at base level). Ask your "paddy's" mother (and the other women) why they chose your "paddy's pops" (i believe your "paddy" didn't talk about his pops raping the baby mothers into having kids for him). Be objective about it. No emotions or sentiments. Bring the reasons they tell you here. The house will break it down to see how clear the issues are.

Baba I can't ask him such questions ooo (@ the concluding part of your last paragraph). It'll look like an intrusion.
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I brought the issue here because I wanted you guys to help me analyze irresponsible fathers in our society with the tenacity to go AWOL using redpill philosophy.