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You love deceit no be small Sir!

I am one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES and i'm here telling you that i was a Muslim before i converted to Christianity. JW Organization is the one and only true Christian group today! Where are the members of all these religions that you're speaking in their behalf?
Your case to me sounds like a fugitive in a refugee camp, you're being called upon by the citizens of a specific nation who kept calling on you to come and take citizenship in their country for free, but instead of you to pack your luggages and follow them you start arguing and questioning them about other nations, saying this is what the other nations have been saying. Whereas you have remained a fugitive in the refugee camp!
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are here now talking, you can't even talk about your own Church and you're here arguing in support of religions that their members are not here yet none of those churches is your own!

Tcwork:
Boss
I understand how you feel. It's easy for us to thing our organization is the best.
It's true your organization claim to be the best but they are not the only ones that make such claims. More that 10 Christian Organization's claim to be the only true church and each with its own evidence.
Some even have much stronger evidence than you from my interactions with you all.
I don't think I have been too fair on you guys on this thread. Maybe you guys should start a thread to teach people about your organization on Nairaland.
So the rest of us can ask questions and evaluate.
But so far the only unique doctrine you guys seem to have is the no war/neutrality policy which you back with Matt 26.52... to me that isn't strong enough.
It's just like a church teaching that people should go barefooted because God told Moses to take off his shoes.
One verse, directed to one person that seems to be what your biggest doctrine is hinged against.
To me that doesn't qualify you to be the only true church.
The seven days adventist also believe the same and the hinge their doctrine on sabbath day observance. That's even a stronger point. At least it's a commandment For God to the entire world that began with God himself observing it.

You amuse me each time you try to shift the goal post childishly!
Now listen to yourself "God asked Moses to pull off his sandals and some religionists are going barefooted everywhere" did the Scriptures said Moses left that spot barefooted?
"God asked the Israelites to keep the Sabbath" did the first century Jewish Christians follow that old covenant?
For your information Sir, Paul is the Apostle sent to TEACH gentiles how to practice Christianity, he (Paul) emphasized that the Sabbath is not a Christian teaching {Colossians 2:16}
So to both questions about going barefooted and Sabbath the answer is capital NO God's word never brought these into Christianity.
But the order not to kill, carry weapons or learn wars could be deduced from the records of what happened to the first century Christians. They were running from one place to another while the enemies of Christianity kept persecuting them here and there. Come on if they can DEFEND themselves with weapons as you've been trying to refute our claim since why is it that only the records of their persecution and marthrs that we are reading and not a single record where the first century Christians put up a struggle physically?

Still I don't think the adventist havery all truths.
I agreed you guys are unique still there are so many unique Christian organizations.
We have the Catholic same who also claim to be the only true church.
The latter day saints believe that God the church.
The church of Christ believe they are the only church recognized by God.
And a good number of other churches out there.

Stop playing the hide and seek game Sir, it's not going to help you. It's either you uphold Christianity or you stand against it. If you can't speak of your own religious group as being the one and only true Christian group then it simply means you're an atheist.
ATHEISM is the lack of believe in any God, what the atheists are saying on the fence is "confusion is everywhere, we don't even know which one out of over 41,000 chuches is practicing Christianity, all of you are just claiming you're the best"
If you're a believer you should be able to stand on your feet and point to the Organization or group that's practicing Christianity, and with that you're condemning all others as false. That's what Jesus did that made the religionists of his time hate him, of course each group back then were also claiming they're the best but not outspokenly like Jesus and his disciples!

MaxInDHouse:
You love deceit no be small Sir!

I am one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES and i'm here telling you that i was a Muslim before i converted to Christianity. JW Organization is the one and only true Christian group today! Where are the members of all these religions that you're speaking in their behalf?
Your case to me sounds like a fugitive in a refugee camp, you're being called upon by the citizens of a specific nation who kept calling on you to come and take citizenship in their country for free, but instead of you to pack your luggages and follow them you start arguing and questioning them about other nations, saying this is what the other nations have been saying. Whereas you have remained a fugitive in the refugee camp!
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are here now talking, you can't even talk about your own Church and you're here arguing in support of religions that their members are not here yet none of those churches is your own!




You amuse me each time you try to shift the goal post childishly!
Now listen to yourself "God asked Moses to pull off his sandals and some religionists are going barefooted everywhere" did the Scriptures said Moses left that spot barefooted?
"God asked the Israelites to keep the Sabbath" did the first century Jewish Christians follow that old covenant?
For your information Sir, Paul is the Apostle sent to TEACH gentiles how to practice Christianity, he (Paul) emphasized that the Sabbath is not a Christian teaching {Colossians 2:16}
So to both questions about going barefooted and Sabbath the answer is capital NO God's word never brought these into Christianity.
But the order not to kill, carry weapons or learn wars could be deduced from the records of what happened to the first century Christians. They were running from one place to another while the enemies of Christianity kept persecuting them here and there. Come on if they can DEFEND themselves with weapons as you've been trying to refute our claim since why is it that only the records of their persecution and marthrs that we are reading and not a single record where the first century Christians put up a struggle physically?





Stop playing the hide and seek game Sir, it's not going to help you. It's either you uphold Christianity or you stand against it. If you can't speak of your own religious group as being the one and only true Christian group then it simply means you're an atheist.
ATHEISM is the lack of believe in any God, what the atheists are saying on the fence is "confusion is everywhere, we don't even know which one out of over 41,000 chuches is practicing Christianity, all of you are just claiming you're the best"
If you're a believer you should be able to stand on your feet and point to the Organization or group that's practicing Christianity, and with that you're condemning all others as false. That's what Jesus did that made the religionists of his time hate him, of course each group back then were also claiming they're the best but not outspokenly like Jesus and his disciples!

You were once a Muslim true, but it's no big deal every year millions of people move from one religion to the other. Everyone has his own reasons.
The difference between you and me is, while you come online to preach about your church, I am here to discuss specific doctrine, so our goals are different.
First the Sabbath day is a Christian teaching and Paul never and could not stop the Sabbath. You have again interpreted a simple verse to suit your believes.
But that was not my piont. My piont was that every church is unique.
And as I said earlier, while you are here to preach about your church, some of us prefer to talk about the doctrines of Christ. Our goal is to bring people to Christ. Just like the apostles of old.
Now to colossians 2.16-17
Therefore, do not let anyone judge you about what you eat and drink+ or about the observance of a festival or of the new moon+ or of a sabbath.+ 17 Those things are a shadow of the things to come,+ but the reality belongs to the Christ
Paul was actually encouraging the colossians to observe the Sabbath. Paul really did not have the authority to stop what God himself began.
Jesus Christ taught that he is the Lord of the Sabbath not Paul.
But that's the point, I am not here to argue about the Sabbath.
You claim to be the chosen group and you claim to have evidence for this and you have spend time on this post trying to show but your evidence are very weak.
Matthew 26.52 is basically the evidence you hold on to that makes your church unique

Jesus said he is LORD over the Sabbath simply means i am above the Sabbath law!
Before Jesus every Jew mustn't do any work on the seventh day (Sabbath) whoever is caught doing any form of laborious work on the seventh day will be exterminated according to the law! Numbers 15:32-35
But Jesus made them realize that nobody should be killed anymore for the Sabbath because now pure worship will be taken to distant lands {John 4:24; Act 1:8} where people living there and the condition of work there may not allow for true Christians to keep the Sabbath, so Christianity ended that law! Romans 10:4
Today true Christians pick days they'll use for sacred services and rest, that was the import of the Sabbath {Exodus 23:12} we know that our workers need time to rest, that's what ancient owners of slaves don't care about so God's law taught Israelites that whosoever refuse to keep this command should be killed. But today Christianity has taught us something far better so we are no more under such burden! Galatians 3:23-25

So if you feel you're here to teach anything know that your teaching has nothing to do with our own God!
You may now rest your case my friend, i can see that you're just not a member of the house of our own FAITH! 2Thessalonians 3:2

Thank you!

Tcwork:
You were once a Muslim true, but it's no big deal every year millions of people move from one religion to the other. Everyone has his own reasons.
The difference between you and me is, while you come online to preach about your church, I am here to discuss specific doctrine, so our goals are different.
First the Sabbath day is a Christian teaching and Paul never and could not stop the Sabbath. You have again interpreted a simple verse to suit your believes.
But that was not my piont. My piont was that every church is unique.
And as I said earlier, while you are here to preach about your church, some of us prefer to talk about the doctrines of Christ. Our goal is to bring people to Christ. Just like the apostles of old.
Now to colossians 2.16-17
Therefore, do not let anyone judge you about what you eat and drink+ or about the observance of a festival or of the new moon+ or of a sabbath.+ 17 Those things are a shadow of the things to come,+ but the reality belongs to the Christ
Paul was actually encouraging the colossians to observe the Sabbath. Paul really did not have the authority to stop what God himself began.
Jesus Christ taught that he is the Lord of the Sabbath not Paul.
But that's the point, I am not here to argue about the Sabbath.
You claim to be the chosen group and you claim to have evidence for this and you have spend time on this post trying to show but your evidence are very weak.
Matthew 26.52 is basically the evidence you hold on to that makes your church unique

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said he is LORD over the Sabbath simply means i am above the Sabbath law!
Before Jesus every Jew mustn't do any work on the seventh day (Sabbath) whoever is caught doing any form of laborious work on the seventh day will be exterminated according to the law! Numbers 15:32-35
But Jesus made them realize that nobody should be killed anymore for the Sabbath because now pure worship will be taken to distant lands {John 4:24; Act 1:8} where people living there and the condition of work there may not allow for true Christians to keep the Sabbath, so Christianity ended that law! Romans 10:4
Today true Christians pick days they'll use for sacred services and rest, that was the import of the Sabbath {Exodus 23:12} we know that our workers need time to rest, that's what ancient owners of slaves don't care about so God's law taught Israelites that whosoever refuse to keep this command should be killed. But today Christianity has taught us something far better so we are no more under such burden! Galatians 3:23-25

So if you feel you're here to teach anything know that your teaching has nothing to do with our own God!
You may now rest your case my friend, i can see that you're just not a member of the house of our own FAITH! 2Thessalonians 3:2

Thank you!

The point was not to discuss the Sabbath but you are very wrong. The Sabbath is older than the Jewish Nation and it started before the Jewish law. It was instituted by God himself when he set it apart from other days.
Now learn scripture. Jesus said, I am lord of the Sabbath not lord over the Sabbath. Two very different things.
Mark 2.28
So the Son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”+
Jesus Christ isn't the Lord of a dead practice.
The origin of the Sabbath has nothing to do with the Jews but with God himself. It was a day God set aside and blessed and rested.
Now let's look at the scriptures you miss represented as you always do.
The Sabbath was not the law of moses. It came before the law. It's an eternal law of God even before the fall of man.
John4.24..why so you love quoting verses that don't apply to what you say. It's very dishonest.
God is a Spirit,+ and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.
Acts1.8
But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you,+ and you will be witnesses+ of me in Jerusalem,+ in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a,+ and to the most distant part* of the earth.
Do you read this verses before quoting them?
I have noticed that you and your members on this thread dishonesty quote scriptures that have nothing to do with the topic. Is that also a sign of the best church on earth?
You guys keep claiming to be the number 1 church but all of you are experts in twisting the scriptures. I have called out you guys severally on this thread.
Maybe twisting scripture is a sign of the best church on earth.

Lord of the Sabbath taught his followers how to make the best use of their time in sacred service.
Today if we tell you we are the only group that's practicing it for benefit you want to argue, please how come Jesus ordered his followers to go out preaching and teaching throughout the earth. Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have a scheduled for this WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE FOLLOWERS OF THE MASTER WHO KNOWS HOW TO SCHEDULE TIME FOR SACRED SERVICES!

Tcwork:
The point was not to discuss the Sabbath but you are very wrong. The Sabbath is older than the Jewish Nation and it started before the Jewish law. It was instituted by God himself when he set it apart from other days.
Now learn scripture. Jesus said, I am lord of the Sabbath not lord over the Sabbath. Two very different things.
Mark 2.28
So the Son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”+
Jesus Christ isn't the Lord of a dead practice.
The origin of the Sabbath has nothing to do with the Jews but with God himself. It was a day God set aside and blessed and rested.
Now let's look at the scriptures you miss represented as you always do.
The Sabbath was not the law of moses. It came before the law. It's an eternal law of God even before the fall of man.
John4.24..why so you love quoting verses that don't apply to what you say. It's very dishonest.
God is a Spirit,+ and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.
Acts1.8
But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you,+ and you will be witnesses+ of me in Jerusalem,+ in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a,+ and to the most distant part* of the earth.
Do you read this verses before quoting them?
I have noticed that you and your members on this thread dishonesty quote scriptures that have nothing to do with the topic. Is that also a sign of the best church on earth?
You guys keep claiming to be the number 1 church but all of you are experts in twisting the scriptures. I have called out you guys severally on this thread.
Maybe twisting scripture is a sign of the best church on earth.

MaxInDHouse:
Lord of the Sabbath taught his followers how to make the best use of their time in sacred service.
Today if we tell you we are the only group that's practicing it for benefit you want to argue, please how come Jesus ordered his followers to go out preaching and teaching throughout the earth. Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have a scheduled for this WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE FOLLOWERS OF THE MASTER WHO KNOWS HOW TO SCHEDULE TIME FOR SACRED SERVICES!

You and all these big claims without evidence. At least now you accept that Jesus Christ is Lord of the Sabbath. This makes the Sabbath a real and living thing and not a dead practice that was killed by Paul as you claim.
I understand you want to argue that your organization is supreme but you have to do it with evidence.
If you can we would listen to you ok.

MaxInDHouse:
Lord of the Sabbath taught his followers how to make the best use of their time in sacred service.
Today if we tell you we are the only group that's practicing it for benefit you want to argue, please how come Jesus ordered his followers to go out preaching and teaching throughout the earth. Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have a scheduled for this WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE FOLLOWERS OF THE MASTER WHO KNOWS HOW TO SCHEDULE TIME FOR SACRED SERVICES!

You keep boasting about your organization but from our lenthy thread I could summarize the JW.
You are basically an organization that believe they are special because of your personal interpretation of Matthew 26.52
That's basically what you are. Your entire claim to being unique is hinged to the verse. Remove your interpretation to that verse and you guys wouldn't have much of a leg to stand.
Now you must have noticed that I basically gave up the use of KJV version of the bible and used your church published bible in the course of our discussion.
I did it despite the fact that your bible is very different. Yet I could still teach much of the gospel of Jesus Christ using your own Bible. It should tell you something.
If we depended on KJV for our discussion we both know what the outcome would have been for you so I chose to take it easy and come down to your level and use the scriptures without personal interpretation. Still you guys could not show through the bible that any of your doctrines were actually of God. You had to start giving new meanings to basic scripture. Hopefully I would be able to go over this thread soon and do a summary of it. Pointing out every issue we have discussed.
Just so you know I really enjoyed doing this with you. It was so much fun.

At least you now agree that our organization is different, it's enough for JWs globally!

Tcwork:
You keep boasting about your organization but from our lenthy thread I could summarize the JW.
You are basically an organization that believe they are special because of your personal interpretation of Matthew 26.52
That's basically what you are. Your entire claim to being unique is hinged to the verse. Remove your interpretation to that verse and you guys wouldn't have much of a leg to stand.
Now you must have noticed that I basically gave up the use of KJV version of the bible and used your church published bible in the course of our discussion.
I did it despite the fact that your bible is very different. Yet I could still teach much of the gospel of Jesus Christ using your own Bible. It should tell you something.
If we depended on KJV for our discussion we both know what the outcome would have been for you so I chose to take it easy and come down to your level and use the scriptures without personal interpretation. Still you guys could not show through the bible that any of your doctrines were actually of God. You had to start giving new meanings to basic scripture. Hopefully I would be able to go over this thread soon and do a summary of it. Pointing out every issue we have discussed.
Just so you know I really enjoyed doing this with you. It was so much fun.

MaxInDHouse:
At least you now agree that our organization is different, it's enough for JWs globally!

Good for you. Every organization is different. But if you feel that's a great achievement then my congrats sir.
You are doing well

John 15:19

Tcwork:
Good for you. Every organization is different. But if you feel that's a great achievement then my congrats sir.
You are doing well

MaxInDHouse:
John 15:19

John 15.19
If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world,+ but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

Oga.. I don't hate you.
We may not agree with each other but the issue of hate does not come up.
Nothing but love bro

Tcwork:
John 15.19
If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world,+ but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

Oga.. I don't hate you.
We may not agree with each other but the issue of hate does not come up.
Nothing but love bro

The funny aspect of the whole discussion is he will still come and say there are SINNERS in every Christian denominations, JWs included and that they all still feel the INFLUENCE of satan in their own very denomination too.

In summary nothing special. All the doctrines they have come to preach, teach and believe came from different sources. One only need to go back in time to see how they have developed it over the years.

Reality says they share common denominators with every other Christian denominations in one way or the other.

The discussion had gotten to since you cannot accept what we CALL TRUTH go on with your LIES when they themselves have not shown the LIES in it.

achorladey:
The funny aspect of the whole discussion is he will still come and say there are SINNERS in every Christian denominations, JWs included and that they all still feel the INFLUENCE of satan in their own very denomination too.

In summary nothing special. All the doctrines they have come to preach, teach and believe came from different sources. One only need to go back in time to see how they have developed it over the years.

Reality says they share common denominators with every other Christian denominations in one way or the other.

The discussion had gotten to since you cannot accept what we CALL TRUTH go on with your LIES when they themselves have not shown the LIES in it.

I really found most of it funny. At first I thought our JW brothers would have so much more to offer. I am actually a bit disappointed

You don't hate us?
Of course you shouldn't if you appreciate it that there are certain things enjoyed within the family circle that outsiders can't benefit! Matthew 13:11

Jesus said he did not bring PEACE but SWORD to break families and cause division in many homes! Matthew 10:34-39

PRACTICAL APPLICATION!

Jesus' teachings will separate people who love the truth from those who love falsehood {John 17:14} lovers of truth will be united as one big and happy global family of peace loving worshipers {John 17:20-23} they will always think alike on sacred matters {1Corinthians 1:10} they will only marry among themselves {1Corinthians 7:39} they will love one another to the extent of laying down their lives for the sake of their fellow believers {John 13:34-35} they will endeavour to help their neighbours to become part of the global family {Matthew 28:19-20} and throughout the earth they will first appreciate anyone who embrace the same line of thought as they do! Matthew 12:46-49 compare to Galatians 6:10

It's simple and logical that other people who can't benefit from this arrangement will definitely hate them out of envy! John 15:19

If you say you don't hate us know today that we also don't hate anyone too, you must have noticed that in my response concerning the evildoers around us and what we must do even when they hurt us {Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:28} so continue working for your God, we have our own God Sir!

Tcwork:
John 15.19
If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world,+ but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.
Oga.. I don't hate you.
We may not agree with each other but the issue of hate does not come up.
Nothing but love bro

Surely the TRUTH will disappoint you because it's not common! 2Thessalonians 3:2
For instance, you threw a question to the floor in this particular thread, the topic ~

Is Jesus Christ Jehovah?

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have come out to tell you NO! emphatically, neither Seventh Day Adventist, your friend who has been following from the onset nor others you kept saying "they're also unique" have come out to address your question just as JWs have done.

Certainly you must be highly disappointed in the one and only group that could come out confidently to address your question with their IDENTITY JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Tcwork:
I really found most of it funny. At first I thought our JW brothers NEIGHBOURS would have so much more to offer. I am actually a bit disappointed!

MaxInDHouse:
Surely the TRUTH will disappoint you because it's not common! 2Thessalonians 3:2
For instance, you threw a question to the floor in this particular thread, the topic ~

Is Jesus Christ Jehovah?

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have come out to tell you NO! emphatically, neither Seventh Day Adventist, your friend who has been following from the onset nor others you kept saying "they're also unique" have come out to address your question just as JWs have done.

Certainly you must be highly disappointed in the one and only group that could come out confidently to address your question with their IDENTITY JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Boss, this was not a popularity contest. The purpose of the post was not to gather supporters it was to show that indeed Jesus Christ /Jehovah is the very same person.
It was not about any particular church or religion. Remember you were the one who involved your church as you took it as an agenda to create PR for your chuch.
Most of the time, it was me against several of you guys. I put up questions that till this moment none of you could counter.
At a point one of you guys began to attack Christ of conniving with Judas to kill himself. I wonder what point he was trying to make.
Half of the time, you guys denied scripture. I receive enough abuse from your sect but it meant nothing.
But like I stated, it wasn't about gathering an army on Nairaland.
I was able to make my point and so where you. People can read and learn the 2 sides.
You guys seemed to take our discussions as a contest or a mini war. That was never the purpose.
Also this was never about JW or Seven days adventist. I brought up the adventist to show that there were other unique organization's who equally have a bible based doctrine that differs from yours. I wanted to let you know that you guys are unique but you are not the only ones out there. My brother, please stop seeing this as a battle.
I love this thread so much because of its richness in ideas. Anyone making a research on Jesus Christ /Jehovah can easily come here for information.
We all contributed to this. We should feel proud of ourselves. We did great.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't hate us?
Of course you shouldn't if you appreciate it that there are certain things enjoyed within the family circle that outsiders can't benefit! Matthew 13:11

Jesus said he did not bring PEACE but SWORD to break families and cause division in many homes! Matthew 10:34-39

PRACTICAL APPLICATION!

Jesus' teachings will separate people who love the truth from those who love falsehood {John 17:14} lovers of truth will be united as one big and happy global family of peace loving worshipers {John 17:20-23} they will always think alike on sacred matters {1Corinthians 1:10} they will only marry among themselves {1Corinthians 7:39} they will love one another to the extent of laying down their lives for the sake of their fellow believers {John 13:34-35} they will endeavour to help their neighbours to become part of the global family {Matthew 28:19-20} and throughout the earth they will first appreciate anyone who embrace the same line of thought as they do! Matthew 12:46-49 compare to Galatians 6:10

It's simple and logical that other people who can't benefit from this arrangement will definitely hate them out of envy! John 15:19

If you say you don't hate us know today that we also don't hate anyone too, you must have noticed that in my response concerning the evildoers around us and what we must do even when they hurt us {Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:28} so continue working for your God, we have our own God Sir!

I come from a family where people are free to follow their heart and conscience. We do not hate those whose opinions differ from ours. We show them love. We understand that at the end, it's love that matters.
The greatest commandment is to love. God created us to be different. We all have different ways of thinking and opinions. It's not worth hating ourselves because of that.
My chief, you are loved. I am sure if I knew you personally I would want to be your friend.
Yes, we argued and used strong words and at times forgot that our only duty is love. A gentle answer even when we feel the other is wrong.
We all would want to lead more people to our churches but if it's not a labour of love, it profits us nothing.
I told you before no one hates you. We disagree but no, I don't hate you.

You keep making the same mistake all the time!

I'm your neighbour not your brother for Christ sake!

I've heard you so keep JWs out of your thread from now, we are ONE and our answer to your question is capital NO!

Tcwork:
Boss, this was not a popularity contest. The purpose of the post was not to gather supporters it was to show that indeed Jesus Christ /Jehovah is the very same person.
It was not about any particular church or religion. Remember you were the one who involved your church as you took it as an agenda to create PR for your chuch.
Most of the time, it was me against several of you guys. I put up questions that till this moment none of you could counter.
At a point one of you guys began to attack Christ of conniving with Judas to kill himself. I wonder what point he was trying to make.
Half of the time, you guys denied scripture. I receive enough abuse from your sect but it meant nothing.
But like I stated, it wasn't about gathering an army on Nairaland.
I was able to make my point and so where you. People can read and learn the 2 sides.
You guys seemed to take our discussions as a contest or a mini war. That was never the purpose.
Also this was never about JW or Seven days adventist. I brought up the adventist to show that there were other unique organization's who equally have a bible based doctrine that differs from yours. I wanted to let you know that you guys are unique but you are not the only ones out there. My brother NEIGHBOUR please stop seeing this as a battle.
I love this thread so much because of its richness in ideas. Anyone making a research on Jesus Christ /Jehovah can easily come here for information.
We all contributed to this. We should feel proud of ourselves. We did great.

It's OK!
All what we just want to make you know is that our God differs from yours period!

Tcwork:
I come from a family where people are free to follow their heart and conscience. We do not hate those whose opinions differ from ours. We show them love. We understand that at the end, it's love that matters.
The greatest commandment is to love. God created us to be different. We all have different ways of thinking and opinions. It's not worth hating ourselves because of that.
My chief friend, you are loved. I am sure if I knew you personally I would want to be your friend.
Yes, we argued and used strong words and at times forgot that our only duty is love. A gentle answer even when we feel the other is wrong.
We all would want to lead more people to our churches but if it's not a labour of love, it profits us nothing.
I told you before no one hates you. We disagree but no, I don't hate you.

MaxInDHouse:
You keep making the same mistake all the time!

I'm your neighbour not your brother for Christ sake!

I've heard you so keep JWs out of your thread from now, we are ONE and our answer to your question is capital NO!

Oga no he fight. I did not bring JW to the thread. It was you who did
No other person brought their church to the thread except you.
I am sure you now see it was a bad idea.
Anyway, we learn everyday.

MaxInDHouse:
It's OK!
All what we just want to make you know is that our God differs from yours period!

Just don't get confused. Go back to the bible.. keep learning. Get to know who Jehovah is.
Read the bible with an open mind. Learn the role of Jesus Christ. No man living or dead can come to the father only through him.
All the father does is to bear witness of his son.
From the creation to the final judgment it's Christ all the way. right at the door.

Acts 10:42
And He ordered us to preach to the people, and solemnly to testify that this is the One who has been appointed by God as Judge of the living and dead
2 Corinthians 5:10

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad


Exodus 6.3
And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty,+ but with regard to my name Jehovah+ I did not make myself known to them.

Jehovah is the begotten son of God Almighty. He appeared to the father's of old in the name of his father but revealed his name to Moses.
Before the earth was created, he was chosen as the lamb to bear the sins of the world.
Before Adam ever ate the fruit, it was set in the heavens that Jehovah would die for the sins of the world.
He came to his own but they knew him not. They could not recognize that this was the same Jehovah that led their fathers.
To those that follow him. He will lead back to his father and like him they would inherit all that the father has.
That is the role of Jehovah according to the bible. So yes I get it, you worship another God but not the one taught in the bible.

Tcwork:
Just don't get confused. Go back to the bible.. keep learning. Get to know who Jehovah is.
Read the bible with an open mind. Learn the role of Jesus Christ. No man living or dead can come to the father only through him.
All the father does is to bear witness of his son.
From the creation to the final judgment it's Christ all the way. right at the door.

Acts 10:42
And He ordered us to preach to the people, and solemnly to testify that this is the One who has been appointed by God as Judge of the living and dead
2 Corinthians 5:10

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad


Exodus 6.3
And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty,+ but with regard to my name Jehovah+ I did not make myself known to them.

Jehovah is the begotten son of God Almighty. He appeared to the father's of old in the name of his father but revealed his name to Moses.
Before the earth was created, he was chosen as the lamb to bear the sins of the world.
Before Adam ever ate the fruit, it was set in the heavens that Jehovah would die for the sins of the world.
He came to his own but they knew him not. They could not recognize that this was the same Jehovah that led their fathers.
To those that follow him. He will lead back to his father and like him they would inherit all that the father has.
That is the role of Jehovah according to the bible. So yes I get it, you worship another God but not the one taught in the bible.

You are arguing with someone that believes that Jesus Christ is angel Michael. Dont waste your strength arguing with JW.

Whatever JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES do as long as it involves sacred matters it must be done in the name of our God JEHOVAH! Matthew 6:9; John 17:6, 26
So we don't engage in scriptural discussion without first pointing to that source, that's why it's impossible for any JW to involve in interfaith!

Tcwork:
Oga no he fight. I did not bring JW to the thread. It was you who did
No other person brought their church to the thread except you.
I am sure you now see it was a bad idea.
Anyway, we learn everyday.

Our God differs from yours, period!

Tcwork:
Just don't get confused. Go back to the bible.. keep learning. Get to know who Jehovah is.
Read the bible with an open mind. Learn the role of Jesus Christ. No man living or dead can come to the father only through him.
All the father does is to bear witness of his son.
From the creation to the final judgment it's Christ all the way. right at the door.

Acts 10:42
And He ordered us to preach to the people, and solemnly to testify that this is the One who has been appointed by God as Judge of the living and dead
2 Corinthians 5:10

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad


Exodus 6.3
And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty,+ but with regard to my name Jehovah+ I did not make myself known to them.

Jehovah is the begotten son of God Almighty. He appeared to the father's of old in the name of his father but revealed his name to Moses.
Before the earth was created, he was chosen as the lamb to bear the sins of the world.
Before Adam ever ate the fruit, it was set in the heavens that Jehovah would die for the sins of the world.
He came to his own but they knew him not. They could not recognize that this was the same Jehovah that led their fathers.
To those that follow him. He will lead back to his father and like him they would inherit all that the father has.
That is the role of Jehovah according to the bible. So yes I get it, you worship another God but not the one taught in the bible.

I've ended the argument long ago but he just can't imagine the efficacy of JWs, how good my brothers are in delivering what we believe with the scriptures, he felt we should agree that we are worshipers of his God having different opinion!

But we keep telling him with boldness that our God totally differ from his own!

That's why he finds it so difficult to let go!

Nuttella:
You are arguing with someone that believes that Jesus Christ is angel Michael. Dont waste your strength arguing with JW.

MaxInDHouse:
I've ended the argument long ago but he just can't imagine the efficacy of JWs, how good my brothers are in delivering what we believe with the scriptures, he felt we should agree that we are worshipers of his God having different opinion!

But we keep telling him with boldness that our God totally differ from his own!

That's why he finds it so difficult to let go!

Quoting different scriptures does make you closer to God, it also does not mean you know him, its not in quoting 100 scriptures in a minute, its in having a deep understanding of the scriptures you are quoting which from what I see you lack understanding of the scriptures.

You are so quick to quote scriptures but you dont understand the scriptures. May God open the eyes of your understanding. Hosea 4;1.

I am not a man, I am a woman.

Nuttella:
You are arguing with someone that believes that Jesus Christ is angel Michael. Dont waste your strength arguing with JW.

Really? Is that also taught in the bible?

Tcwork:
Really? Is that also taught in the bible?

No. That is why I said you shouldn't argue with him.

Its time I interceed for MaxinDhouse, he has a zeal for God but he is doing it in the wrong way, I will put him in my prayers.

MaxInDHouse:
I've ended the argument long ago but he just can't imagine the efficacy of JWs, how good my brothers are in delivering what we believe with the scriptures, he felt we should agree that we are worshipers of his God having different opinion!

But we keep telling him with boldness that our God totally differ from his own!

That's why he finds it so difficult to let go!

You are very funny. You think so much that everything is about you.
Or do you think that only JW people read this thread?
Just be cool oga. You are always defensive. I have already advised you. No one is fighting you. This is a discussion not a war

Nuttella:
No. That is why I said you shouldn't argue with him.

Its time I interceed for MaxinDhouse, he has a zeal for God but he is doing it in the wrong way, I will put him in my prayers.

I understand

So in a short if i don't understand your God and i also claim to be a worshiper of a God it simply means you and i aren't worshiping the same God, period!

Nuttella:
Quoting different scriptures does make you closer to God, it also does not mean you know him, its not in quoting 100 scriptures in a minute, its in having a deep understanding of the scriptures you are quoting which from what I see you lack understanding of the scriptures.

You are so quick to quote scriptures but you dont understand the scriptures. May God open the eyes of your understanding. Hosea 4;1.

I am not a man, I am a woman.

OK let's forget it!

Tcwork:
You are very funny. You think so much that everything is about you.
Or do you think that only JW people read this thread?
Just be cool oga. You are always defensive. I have already advised you. No one is fighting you. This is a discussion not a war