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Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by malvisguy212: 9:27pm On Feb 12, 2021 |
Janosky:as usual , answering question with question . 1 Like |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by haddeylium(m): 11:11pm On Feb 12, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Alright sir! So, can you boast of this love among the Ecwa members? |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Magnoliaa(f): 1:14am On Feb 13, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:And... may you have peace, too. From the only one Christ. shadeyinka:Good, okay. |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 1:15am On Feb 13, 2021 |
malvisguy212: Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by malvisguy212: 9:01pm On Feb 12 Janosky: Bros , pls tell this forum. what is the gospel of John 20:17 and Revelation 3:12? grin cheesy is the Holy Spirit an active force or person ? (Quote) (Report) (Like) (Share) ++++++++±++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ HYPOCRITE !
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Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:39am On Feb 13, 2021 |
I'll implore all of you my brothers to let Shadeyinka breathe, it's obvious he has leant his lessons now. I'm sure he will never ever CALL OUT JWs for doctrinal issues again. Now we have established that there is no Christianity if two, three or more can't have the same line of thought on doctrines and teachings! Matthew 18:20 Jesus promised to be only in the midst of those who gather IN HIS NAME! Surely Shadeyinka can't prove that Jesus is not in any gathering as long as Jesus' name is mentioned or emphasized during worship but we know that it's not just praying or mentioning Jesus' name that matters {Matthew 7:21-23} rather it's how united in thought those gathering are when it comes to Jesus' teachings! John 17:20-23 So please my brothers let's pardon his insolence i'm sure he has learnt a lot from this Discussion on doctrines between a member of ECWA Church (Shadeyinka) and (Maximus) one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Romans 12:18 Your brother Maximus shadeyinka:
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Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by shadeyinka(m): 10:04am On Feb 13, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:An Immature Fool will always be known by what comes out of his mouth! CC: Magnoliaa(f) I rest my case! 2 Likes |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 10:07am On Feb 13, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Far more stupidity to not have a rebuttal . |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:22pm On Feb 13, 2021 |
You started it so it's OK if you end it! shadeyinka: |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Image123(m): 2:44pm On Feb 13, 2021 |
DappaD: So the laugh of your brother atheist is a pointer/validation for you. Does he agree with you or laugh even harder at you? Hypocrite. Who stops God from praying to God, you or sad hall? God in three persons, blessed Trinity. Never forget that. Pause and listen to God, He is looking for lost people like you. Stop listening to your proud self for a while. 1 Like |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Image123(m): 2:49pm On Feb 13, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: It took you so long to say. Were you afraid of being ridiculous? You should be used to your nature already. 1 Like |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Image123(m): 2:52pm On Feb 13, 2021 |
CAPTIVATOR: God's. Did anyone say otherwise? Your elders already agreed that God the Father was talking to Jesus when He created man in His image. Do you agree we were created in Jesus' image? i hope your processor doesn't crash though. It's not really built for this. 2 Likes |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Image123(m): 3:11pm On Feb 13, 2021 |
Janosky: Good. We are at least agreed on something, you discovered gold. IT IS PLURAL. Now, who told you that it is not a plural of persons? Help figure. Genesis 1:26, Jehovah spoke to the spirit beings of Job 38:7 who witnessed creation & rejoiced at the creation of man. Job 38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, Job 38:2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? Job 38:3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Job 38:8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb? What part of this passage says that God was talking to spirit beings of Job 38 during the creation of man or in Gen 11v7? This passage says that the morning stars sang together and the sons of God shouted for joy. It doesn't say that God spoke to them about creating man. Or maybe you can present a better version that says what janomighty is saying. Genesis 1:27 Jehovah God is a HE. Rom 12:9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. Don't claim to respect me and insult me at the same time. God's servants don't do that. Anyway, you are Jwickedness slave, it's beyond you to obey God's Word. Tribes of Israel and the nation itself as a whole is referred to with same and similar pronouns. Did you ever notice that? No, you don't read the Bible for yourselves. Only passages programmed and arranged to suit your will. Bros , you are referring to God as "HE, Himself". Read the Bible, He is Elohim, PLURAL. God in three persons. Your Bible says God is one spirit person. The Bible says God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit is God. Read. 1 Like |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:14pm On Feb 13, 2021 |
Thanks Mr Image123, Shadeyinka has had enough discussion on doctrines. If you wish to discuss please open a thread, mention the name of your church (so that everyone could know the doctrine you support) then invite any church that you feel like discussing with. Shadeyinka worships with ECWA Church and he has had enough discussion with Maximus (one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES) on doctrinal issues. Maximus stood for the doctrines he knew about Christ as taught by his group while Shadeyinka also tried to stand but not for the doctrines taught in his church rather what different people from different religious groups choose to uphold even when the churches they're attending failed to uphold such doctrines! Image123: |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 3:20pm On Feb 13, 2021 |
Image123: No . Now I know you don't know shi in the scriptures |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 4:39pm On Feb 13, 2021 |
Image123: # 8 questions for you: * Yahweh created ALL things , but you seem to know Creation more than Yahweh. Bros, Genesis 1:1-27 & Job 38:1-7, According to Yahweh, who were present there to rejoice and applaud Yahweh's work? When Yahweh speaks there,whom is Yahweh talking to? * Bros, Genesis 1:1-25, what did Yahweh create ? *Job 38:1-7, who saw the creation of Yahweh and celebrated ? * JOB 38:3-4, "I" refers to who? * Can your brain understand that Job 38:1-7 , Yahweh revealed more Creation info not stated in Genesis 1:1-27? * Job 38:7 who are the morning stars singing together? * Revelation 22:16, who is the morning star ? * Revelation 22:16, Did Yahweh create morning star ? Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers (7) The morning stars.—The context seems to suggest that by the stars are meant the angels entrusted with their guardianship, from whence Milton has borrowed his conceptions. The magnificent sublimity of the expression and the thought needs no comment. Bros , please read the Ellicott's Commentary & the screenshot Evidence thoroughly. Will you be there to clap hands at an Event you were not present? .
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Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 4:48pm On Feb 13, 2021 |
Image123:Your claim not the holy scriptures. John 20:17.John 4:24. 14:28. Deut 6:4. Gen1:27. According to Jesus Christ and your Bible. No carry the DUBIOUS 1Timothy3:16 & 1John5:7 KJV FRAUD come here |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 4:57pm On Feb 13, 2021 |
Image123: Ephesians 1:3,17-22 , Acts 2:36. Bros, you want to add your own theory? |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 5:01pm On Feb 13, 2021 |
Image123:No. Not at all. NEVER. The only true God no get 3 heads. John 17:3. Greek theiotes is divine (nature/quality), divinity. Full stop !
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Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 5:18pm On Feb 13, 2021 |
ublight:Thanks for sharing your GIBBERISH. |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 11:35pm On Feb 13, 2021 |
Image123: CAPTIVATOR: oh duh false jw cap, you false jw's are all tarred with the same dum brush Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Father God was of course talking there to the Word/Jesus Christ who created all that was created, john 1:3, col 1:16-17 gen 1:26, man is created in the image of God/in the image of Jesus Christ, col 1:15 (let us make man in our image) Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, 2 Likes |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Image123(m): 8:22am On Feb 14, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: i've not seen a more uncoordinated front than the JWICKEDNESS as evidenced in this thread. Rein in your attack dogs, not me. Tell your minions to open threads and follow your instructions. |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Image123(m): 8:27am On Feb 14, 2021 |
CAPTIVATOR: i'm sure you received a certificate for this new knowledge. Carry your tail and run along already. Didn't you read your elders instructions to close discussion on this thread or are you not the united awake selling denomination not going to Heaven? |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Image123(m): 8:36am On Feb 14, 2021 |
Janosky: Great, you agree with Albert Barnes notes right? Let's hope that this agreement lasts long. It is common knowledge that angels were created, existing and even fallen before the creation of man. Nobody says they were not aware or present when God made man. The subject is What part of this passage says that God was talking to spirit beings of Job 38 during the creation of man or in Gen 11v7? This passage says that the morning stars sang together and the sons of God shouted for joy. It doesn't say that God spoke to them about creating man. i can be in a room with you and you can be talking to your wife, or brother, or child. You are claiming that everything you say in the room was said to me and everyone in the room. Elohim which is plural said to Elohim which includes Jesus, Let US. Man is not like angels, are we? 2 Likes |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Emusan(m): 8:37am On Feb 14, 2021 |
CAPTIVATOR: Where in the scripture this statement appeared, that Jesus bears the Image of anyone? |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Emusan(m): 9:10am On Feb 14, 2021 |
Janosky: You people don't see how foolish your doctrines are, that's why you can open your dirty mouth to defend a doctrine without seeing the negative impact on the other doctrines. The same people who claimed, Jehovah first created Jesus and used Jesus to create other things, now claiming that Jehovah was ISSUING COMMAND OF CREATION TO HEAVENLY HOSTS. Which means, Jesus wasn't the only person used to create all other things but ALL THE ANGELS. This is Ellicott's and Barnes'commentary on Gen 1:26 I know you won't agree with them but will only agree with the part that suits your lying mouth. Ellicott: "As regards the use of the plural here, Maimonides thinks that God took counsel with the earth, the latter supplying the body and Elohim the soul. But it is denied in Isaiah 40:13 that God ever took counsel with any one but Himself. The Jewish interpreters generally think that the angels are meant. More truly and more reverently we may say that this first chapter of Genesis is the chapter of mysteries, and just as “the wind of God” in Genesis 1:2 was the pregnant germ which grew into the revelation of the Holy Ghost, so in Elohim, the many powers concentrated in one being, lies the germ of the doctrine of a plurality of persons in the Divine Unity. BARNES Note: "At the same time he sets it before himself as a thing undertaken with deliberate purpose. Moreover, in the former mandates of creation his words had regard to the thing itself that was summoned into being; as, "Let there be light;" or to some preexistent object that was physically connected with the new creature; as, "Let the land bring forth grass." But now the language of the fiat of creation ascends to the Creator himself: Let us make man. This intimates that the new being in its higher nature is associated not so much with any part of creation as with the Eternal Uncreated himself. The truth is you decided to give another meaning to their stance on Job 38:7, which isn't surprising as you're a liar like your father the Devil. 1 Like |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 10:17am On Feb 14, 2021 |
Emusan: Jesus is the image OF ( Of means belonging to) the Invisible God ( the Father ) Nobody exist in Jesus image. |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by CAPTIVATOR: 10:21am On Feb 14, 2021 |
Image123: We are not made in Jesus image ... Make peace with it. Jesus is not the Creator. |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Barristter07: 10:40am On Feb 14, 2021 |
CAPTIVATOR:No mind them . " because those whom he gave his first recognition he also foreordained TO BE patterned after the image of his Son , so that he might be the firstborn among many brothers." Romans 8:29 For Emusan and Image123 to claim humans are made in Jesus image is to claim every human are God's chosen one. Which is FOOLERY If humans are in Jesus image presently, that verse would make no sense when it says to be patterned after him. No one exist in Jesus image like Captivator pointed out. He is not the Creator. Even Romans 8:29 apply to the Future , emphasis on " To be " which is even by the permission of the Father. Again showing Jesus is not the Creator. He is a creation like everyone else . 1 Like |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Barristter07: 10:43am On Feb 14, 2021 |
malvisguy212: Force, not a person 1 Like |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:08am On Feb 14, 2021 |
It's OK Sir I..T...'S O...K! Image123: |
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:37am On Feb 14, 2021 |
Hi brothers i'm using this medium to inform all of you that last two weeks was our circuit week and your brother Maximus has just been appointed a Ministerial Servant! Thanks for your effort from the beginning until now, gradually the child born 3 years ago is fast becoming a man in JEHOVAH'S house. Once again i thank all those who participated in the sowing and watering of the seed, once again i'll say "Jehovah's Witnesses may God bless you guys for locating me!" 2 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Emusan(m): 12:58pm On Feb 14, 2021 |
CAPTIVATOR: So funny.... Let's replace your definition in the verse. Jesus is the IMAGE belonging to the invisible God (the Father) Can you see what the scripture is saying here is that, the IMAGE OF GOD is Jesus Himself? Which means without Jesus the Father has NO IMAGE. And man was created in the Image of God |
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