Osaze007:


I think your off point
Sokoto is not the head of Christians in Nigeria

Good morning, CAN is the head of Christians in Nigeria but Surdane of Sokoto is head of all Muslims in Nigeria, he also is the head of all traditional rulers in Nigeria before the government, he is also the Chairman of Inter religious bodies in Nigeria. That is what I mean by senior partner.

Nemere2020:


https://ishaqakintola.com/will-not-allow-persecution-muslim-students-kwara/

Why must ishaq always show that is muric organization is synonymous with mumu . All Christian students in islamic schools or government owned schools should start coming to school with their various choir gowns altar wears , celestial clothes etc. That would make the point. Before going into a school . You were given the rules and regulations .which you agreed to. Only to get in and want to change it. What's so special about the 10 missionary schools that the other schools are not providing. If they want to wear hijab .they are free to go to hijab wearing schools. Very soon they will tell you they can wear there jalabia and turban into a church service because they have the right to do so. Imagine. Celestial or cherubim worshiper inside the mosque .Always looking for trouble. Why these appetite for trouble.

oloyedewaris:

And who dictates the school uniform in this case

If it is a private school, the school board. If it is a public school, the ministry of education.

AntiChristian:


Muslims who don't use the Hijab do not understand that part of Islam. What is right should have been the freedom of religion and expression where everyone practises as one wills without disturbing others. So how does the Hijab disturbs the sanity ofhe Christians as we are the ones putting it on?

You want us to be like you in dressing while compromising our religion right?

Stop trying to speak for Muslims who don't wear the hijab. The type of Islam practiced by Nigerian women with your support only exists in Islamic states, and Nigeria is a secular state.


Why is that so difficult to understand?

Instead you prefer to act like you're sidelined and the world is full of islamophobia.

If you want to dress like pillboxes without offending other secular people by imposing your religious dress on them, you know how to get to Saudi. You know the way to madrassahs.

In your Islamic regions, why do you jail and penalize women who expose their flesh? By your logic, is it your flesh? How does it disturb the sanity of Muslims? Why is hisbah destroying people's alcohol? Are they going to be the ones drinking it or the people who want to? How does that affect practicing Muslims? Will you be the ones drinking or exposing your bodies? But you want to wear hijabs in secular regions.

You are free to oppress with your religion, but you can never address that.

shadeyinka:

Don't act dumb, your people did using their government agents. Didn't they claim that Kwara is a Muslim state?

BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF

is kwara a Christian state considering the indegenes and origin

You should even feel guilty because despite being a Muslim state there still exist some Baptist and missionary schools there which i know will not happen in any SS or SE state to have Islamic schools



So my brother let the government decide what to do to those schools, it's very obvious that the society that harbours this schools doesn't want their female children to open their hair in public. Because i'm tired of this conversation

Please let it end here

oloyedewaris:

BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF

is kwara a Christian state considering the indegenes and origin

You should even feel guilty because despite being a Muslim state there still exist some Baptist and missionary schools there which i know will not happen in any SS or SE state to have Islamic schools



So my brother let the government decide what to do to those schools, it's very obvious that the society that harbours this schools doesn't want their female children to open their hair in public. Because i'm tired of this conversation

Please let it end here

You are the ones who claim that Kwara is a Muslim state. Even MURIC concurred with that.

Come to Ilorin and see churches then compare with mosques you will know whether that statement is true or false
.

Of course, Muslims are the majority in government.

shadeyinka:

You are the ones who claim that Kwara is a Muslim state. Even MURIC concurred with that.

Come to Ilorin and see churches then compare with mosques you will know whether that statement is true or false
.

Of course, Muslims are the majority in government.

Churches built by visitors to the state, probably those igbo businessmen, cos they are everywhere

Maobichek:


Good morning, CAN is the head of Christians in Nigeria but Surdane of Sokoto is head of all Muslims in Nigeria, he also is the head of all traditional rulers in Nigeria before the government, he is also the Chairman of Inter religious bodies in Nigeria. That is what I mean by senior partner.

He’s the cohead alongside a Christian leadership
He’s not the cohead of traditional leaders alongside other prominent monarchs

oloyedewaris:

Churches built by visitors to the state, probably those igbo businessmen, cos they are everywhere

Kwara comprises of everyone who lives in it irrespective of where they come from. Do you think foreigners outnumber the indigine. How come only Christian foreigners come to kwara and muslim foreigners avoid Kwara?

shadeyinka:

Kwara comprises of everyone who lives in it irrespective of where they come from. Do you think foreigners outnumber the indigine. How come only Christian foreigners come to kwara and muslim foreigners avoid Kwara?

So states like delta can not be called a christain dominated state

That's what i said, hypocrisy

You know what let's just end this cos you're not being truthful

oloyedewaris:

So states like delta can not be called a christain dominated state

That's what i said, hypocrisy

You know what let's just end this cos you're not being truthful

Kwara is a Muslim state, yet the number of Churches outnumber that of mosques!?

Kwara is a Muslim state, yet the number of Christian private schools outnumber that of Moslem private schools!?

Zamfara can claim to be a Moslem state. Oyo Lagos, Osun states cannot claim to be either a Christian or Muslim state.

shadeyinka:

Kwara is a Muslim state, yet the number of Churches outnumber that of mosques!?

Kwara is a Muslim state, yet the number of Christian private schools outnumber that of Moslem private schools!?

Zamfara can claim to be a Moslem state. Oyo Lagos, Osun states cannot claim to be either a Christian or Muslim state.

What can you use to justify claim that no of churches is more than mosque or else i don't believe

Even after considering the fact that illorin is the origin of Islamic clerics

oloyedewaris:

What can you use to justify claim that no of churches is more than mosque or else i don't believe .

Indigenous people of Ilorin alone doesn't make up Kwara state, do day? How about other communities?

Come to Ilorin, Offa, Omu-aran etc and see: especially Ilorin. Every other area apart from traditional Ilorin enclave is dominated with structures to show that even Ilorin has a larger concentration of Christians.

Just come and see: your eyes will not deceive you!

oloyedewaris:

Even after considering the fact that illorin is the origin of Islamic clerics

The lies they told you and you swallowed without thinking.
So, Ilorin is older than Uthman Dan Fodio?

Do you even know the meaning of Islamic Cleric?

Islamic Clerics are simply Muslim scholars trained in Islam and Islamic law) who are the interpreters of Islam's sciences and doctrines and laws and the chief guarantors of continuity in the spiritual and intellectual history of the Islamic community.

How could they have had their origin from Ilorin?

Think now!

shadeyinka:

Indigenous people of Ilorin alone doesn't make up Kwara state, do day? How about other communities?

Come to Ilorin, Offa, Omu-aran etc and see: especially Ilorin. Every other area apart from traditional Ilorin enclave is dominated with structures to show that even Ilorin has a larger concentration of Christians.

Just come and see: your eyes will not deceive you!


The lies they told you and you swallowed without thinking.
So, Ilorin is older than Uthman Dan Fodio?

Do you even know the meaning of Islamic Cleric?

Islamic Clerics are simply Muslim scholars trained in Islam and Islamic law) who are the interpreters of Islam's sciences and doctrines and laws and the chief guarantors of continuity in the spiritual and intellectual history of the Islamic community.

How could they have had their origin from Ilorin?

Think now!

Though, I've not been to kwara but from my research and what I've heard from people, Ilorin is the origin of most islamic clerics here on SW, uthman Dan fodio is an islamic caliph in sokoto were he created his caliphate, that does not have anything to do with Muslims generally

If i may ask you were did those Christians in kwara originated from, is it from the yoruba side or from the few northerners there

https://www.nairaland.com/6434081/kwara-approves-wearing-hijab-public


Case closed

oloyedewaris:

Though, I've not been to kwara but from my research and what I've heard from people, Ilorin is the origin of most islamic clerics here on SW, uthman Dan fodio is an islamic caliph in sokoto were he created his caliphate, that does not have anything to do with Muslims generally

If i may ask you were did those Christians in kwara originated from, is it from the yoruba side or from the few northerners there

Kwara is multiethnic with majority population as Yoruba. Ilorin indigenes are predominantly Muslims, probably (about 99%). But Ilorin is just one town in Kwara state. The biggest towns in Kwara state comprises Ilorin, Offa, Omu-aran, Afon, Ajasse-Ipo, Edidi, Erin-lIe, Esie, Igbaja, Jebba, Kaiama, Lafiagi ,Oke-Onigbin, Osi, Patigi lIoffa etc.

None of them is religiously as homogeneous as Ilorin indigenes. Ilorin town is a confluence comprising kwara state indigenes and people from other states just like every other state capital in Nigeria. The population of Ilorin town is just a little under a million and Ilorin indigenes are not more that 20% at best.

It would be great if you can come to Ilorin one of these days even if it is to spend one day. Ilorin is largely peaceful and clean especially Ilorin West LGA.

Honestly, a single-day walk through of Ilorin will convince you about any misinformation. I don't live in Kwara state, I would have hosted your stay at least for 2-3 days!

shadeyinka:

Kwara is multiethnic with majority population as Yoruba. Ilorin indigenes are predominantly Muslims, probably (about 99%). But Ilorin is just one town in Kwara state. The biggest towns in Kwara state comprises Ilorin, Offa, Omu-aran, Afon, Ajasse-Ipo, Edidi, Erin-lIe, Esie, Igbaja, Jebba, Kaiama, Lafiagi ,Oke-Onigbin, Osi, Patigi lIoffa etc.

None of them is religiously as homogeneous as Ilorin indigenes. Ilorin town is a confluence comprising kwara state indigenes and people from other states just like every other state capital in Nigeria. The population of Ilorin town is just a little under a million and Ilorin indigenes are not more that 20% at best.

It would be great if you can come to Ilorin one of these days even if it is to spend one day. Ilorin is largely peaceful and clean especially Ilorin West LGA.

Honestly, a single-day walk through of Ilorin will convince you about any misinformation. I don't live in Kwara state, I would have hosted your stay at least for 2-3 days!

Ok agreed

How come their current governor is Muslim, saraki too
Most of their commissioners, house members too are Muslims

Or Should we say the elites there are Muslim

oloyedewaris:

Ok agreed

How come their current governor is Muslim, saraki too
Most of their commissioners, house members too are Muslims

Or Should we say the elites there are Muslim

Because Muslims are more in politics in Kwara state (the average Christian is not into politics).
-Because of the influence of Saraki, his legacies still live on
-Because of the Jihad Muslims are fighting against Christians (who are not fighting them)
-Because Christians don't agree in church to vote for Christians unlike the Muslims
-Because Christians have been marginalized at all levels. One can hardly get a job in Ilorin if you are not Adina or Yusuf or Bello or Musbau
-Part of the Marginalisation is what the propietors of the Chris schools are complaining about. Muslims using the instrument of the state to oppress Christians in the name of Allah

Can one separate Islam from politics and governance? No!

shadeyinka:

Because Muslims are more in politics in Kwara state (the average Christian is not into politics).
-Because of the influence of Saraki, his legacies still live on
-Because of the Jihad Muslims are fighting against Christians (who are not fighting them)
-Because Christians don't agree in church to vote for Christians unlike the Muslims
-Because Christians have been marginalized at all levels. One can hardly get a job in Ilorin if you are not Adina or Yusuf or Bello or Musbau
-Part of the Marginalisation is what the propietors of the Chris schools are complaining about. Muslims using the instrument of the state to oppress Christians in the name of Allah

Can one separate Islam from politics and governance? No!

How is these Muslims fault that they aren't involved in politics

What makes saraki there at first before considering his influence

How are jihad Muslims fighting Christians, just want to know

Is it Muslims fault for the disunity in churches

What makes them marginalized at first if they are dominant there






And please stop saying in the name of Allah, i beg of you

oloyedewaris:

How is these Muslims fault that they aren't involved in politics

What makes saraki there at first before considering his influence

How are jihad Muslims fighting Christians, just want to know

Is it Muslims fault for the disunity in churches

What makes them marginalized at first if they are dominant there






And please stop saying in the name of Allah, i beg of you

Sorry bro!
Fulani are less than 5% of the population of Nigeria, yet they marginalized the Hausa's in the North and dominate Nigerian politics. Marginalisation isn't always a game of number.

The atrocities are all done in the name of Allah for the domination of Islam. It started thereabout 1992 when the eight point agenda of takeover was initiated by the Muslim Umar in Ilorin.

I do not blame Muslims for being in politics no. I wish more Christians will also go into politics but they consider it as too dirty. We suffer the corruption in it together as we allowed evil people to constitute the majority in politics.

shadeyinka:

Sorry bro!
Fulani are less than 5% of the population of Nigeria, yet they marginalized the Hausa's in the North and dominate Nigerian politics. Marginalisation isn't always a game of number.

The atrocities are all done in the name of Allah for the domination of Islam. It started thereabout 1992 when the eight point agenda of takeover was initiated by the Muslim Umar in Ilorin.

I do not blame Muslims for being in politics no. I wish more Christians will also go into politics but they consider it as too dirty. We suffer the corruption in it together as we allowed evil people to constitute the majority in politics.

So you are judging all these based on actions of Fulanis in the country, remember it was this buhari regime that empowered them by not making necessary publications. Did you ever think this during OBJ or GEJ time, it's now that dominance doesn't affect marginalization

Remember that Christians in SW states are much more involved in politics, what makes kwara state case special, why didn't the Muslims dominate them here



Atrocities made by someone who claim doing for Allah doesn't means it's true,

BRATISLAVA:


Stop trying to speak for Muslims who don't wear the hijab. The type of Islam practiced by Nigerian women with your support only exists in Islamic states, and Nigeria is a secular state.

Nigerians are Multi-religious not secular! And the fact that the constitution allows the practice of one's religion! There are more Churches in the the entire North East & NW than mosques in the entire SE and SS.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

Of cos it is.

Instead you prefer to act like you're sidelined and the world is full of islamophobia.

Ain't we sidelined? Why are Saturdays and Sundays the Christian worship days, days of rest in Nigeria?

If you want to dress like pillboxes without offending other secular people by imposing your religious dress on them, you know how to get to Saudi. You know the way to madrassahs.

Seems you are really pained by the Hijab. You have no biz with how we dress. We dress as Allah enjoins us in the Qur'an and we'll practice the dressing as part of our religion in Nigeria.

In your Islamic regions, why do you jail and penalize women who expose their flesh? By your logic, is it your flesh? How does it disturb the sanity of Muslims? Why is hisbah destroying people's alcohol? Are they going to be the ones drinking it or the people who want to? How does that affect practicing Muslims? Will you be the ones drinking or exposing your bodies? But you want to wear hijabs in secular regions.

You are free to oppress with your religion, but you can never address that.

Anyone who lives in a place where Shariah law is being used should behave his/herself. The law is in use and they know it. and your logic does not apply here. Islam forbids nudity, Alcohol, pig among others. So why would any sane human deal in these things when you know the law of that land forbids it? The Law of the land is superior to you.

And how is all this rantings related to the case in discuss that involves Public schools runned by the government?

And we see popular landmarks being designed during Christian festivals by Government. We even see many hospitals and government establishment turn the public premises to churches early in the morning.

AntiChristian:


Nigerians are Multi-religious not secular! And the fact that the constitution allows the practice of one's religion! There are more Churches in the the entire North East & NW than mosques in the entire SE and SS.




Of cos it is.


Ain't we sidelined? Why are Saturdays and Sundays the Christian worship days, days of rest in Nigeria?


Seems you are really pained by the Hijab. You have no biz with how we dress. We dress as Allah enjoins us in the Qur'an and we'll practice the dressing as part of our religion in Nigeria.



Anyone who lives in a place where Shariah law is being used should behave his/herself. The law is in use and they know it. and your logic does not apply here. Islam forbids nudity, Alcohol, pig among others. So why would any sane human deal in these things when you know the law of that land forbids it? The Law of the land is superior to you.

And how is all this rantings related to the case in discuss that involves Public schools runned by the government?

And we see popular landmarks being designed during Christian festivals by Government. We even see many hospitals and government establishment turn the public premises to churches early in the morning.

Nigeria is secular. Take it or face reality.

Under no circumstance should one religion always never want to integrate. Anywhere Islam is allowed to cry and get rights, the place always becomes like Afghanistan. Look at what liberation of wearing the hijab is causing in France, the UK.

Let us look closer. Look at the Islam run North and tell us what exactly wearing the hijab will do for you.

For you to bring up the Saturday and Sunday as being sidelined, knowing that in Islamic Nations they work on Sundays shows you are irrational and so Antichristian that you don't make much sense anymore. You're not the only religion affected by the Gregorian calendar. But Islam must cry about it the most. If you don't bomb down the world, who will?

Now you are in a place with secular laws, so behave yourself.

What you feel is good for strangers in Islamic regions is how strangers feel that what is good for non Muslims is good for Muslims when they come to secular regions.

BRATISLAVA:


Nigeria is secular. Take it or face reality.

Under no circumstance should one religion always never want to integrate. Anywhere Islam is allowed to cry and get rights, the place always becomes like Afghanistan. Look at what liberation of wearing the hijab is causing in France, the UK.

Let us look closer. Look at the Islam run North and tell us what exactly wearing the hijab will do for you.

For you to bring up the Saturday and Sunday as being sidelined, knowing that in Islamic Nations they work on Sundays shows you are irrational. You're not the only religion affected by the Gregorian calendar.

So what is your point now?

Rubbiish:

So what is your point now?

That Islam will never want to integrate. But they want others to integrate into Islam.

They aren't the only ones with a religion, so they should behave themselves and stop crying about being sidelined when they are one of the most intolerant to other people's freedom of religion.

BRATISLAVA:


Nigeria is secular. Take it or face reality.

Under no circumstance should one religion always never want to integrate. Anywhere Islam is allowed to cry and get rights, the place always becomes like Afghanistan. Look at what liberation of wearing the hijab is causing in France, the UK.

Let us look closer. Look at the Islam run North and tell us what exactly wearing the hijab will do for you.

For you to bring up the Saturday and Sunday as being sidelined, knowing that in Islamic Nations they work on Sundays shows you are irrational and so Antichristian that you don't make much sense anymore. You're not the only religion affected by the Gregorian calendar. But Islam must cry about it the most. If you don't bomb down the world, who will?

Now you are in a place with secular laws, so behave yourself.

What you feel is good for strangers in Islamic regions is how strangers feel that what is good for non Muslims is good for Muslims when they come to secular regions.

Chai! How does it concern you what wearing Hijab will do to me? And I have been living in the Lagos for decades and no bomb here. Only foolish people will claim Muslims bomb the world. Have they bombed you or your fam?

If you are pained abeg go court or hug transformer!

BRATISLAVA:


That Islam will never want to integrate. But they want others to integrate into Islam.

They aren't the only ones with a religion, so they should behave themselves and stop crying about being sidelined when they are one of the most intolerant to other people's freedom of religion.

U are right!

AntiChristian:


Chai! How does it concern you what wearing Hijab will do to me? And I have been living in the Lagos for decades and no bomb here. Only foolish people will claim Muslims bomb the world. Have they bombed you or your fam?

If you are pained abeg go court or hug transformer!

You're funny. So all the bombing and killing(butchery, beheading, drowning, throat slitting etc) worldwide perpetrated by Muslims means nothing?

Only foolish people pretend a problem of Muslims doesn't exist, until it swallows them.

If you are pained, tell your Muslim brothers to stop constituting terror worldwide.

oloyedewaris:

What is this one saying bayii
They should have rules but not rules to oppress female Muslims, they should put both religion into consideration when making rules

You as a Christian, will you be ok if your child is forced to wear hijab which you don't like

This western world we are, it's of no doubt that there are two main religion, that's why they take them CRK (Christian religion knowledge) and IRK (islamic religion knowledge)

So children should not be forced to pull off their hijabs

Your sentimental attachment to this issue is alarming, yet interesting. I have promised not to give comments on sensitive issues like this but I need you to know something. If you were able to finish reading the OP’s post, you would understand it is beyond the hijab. They were also demanding for mosques to be built inside the school. Keyword on Demanding. And to them it is a must. If you live in Kwara state like I do, you would understand the preferential treatment given to the Muslims as well as the hostile treatment accorded to the Christians. In fact there’s a limit to where you worship as a Christian. But that’s by the way
Have you heard of Al-hikmah Universiry in Ilorin? The students, regardless of their religion (Christian inclusive) MUST wear an hijab regardless how comfortable or uncomfortable they are in it. What do you make of that? I’ve never heard of non Muslims requesting for churches to be built inside the school. Also, it is almost impossible to have a Christian fellowship inside the school as it is seen as an offense.
In essence, my point is, every institution has their own rules and tenet and each student must follow such rules and guard them judiciously.

BRATISLAVA:


You're funny. So all the bombing and killing(butchery, beheading, drowning, throat slitting etc) worldwide perpetrated by Muslims means nothing?

Only foolish people pretend a problem of Muslims doesn't exist, until it swallows them.

If you are pained, tell your Muslim brothers to stop constituting terror worldwide.

Terrorism knows no religion. Gay sex is popular among some Christian denomination worldwide. Can we now say all Christians are gay too? Then God should destroy all of them like Sodom and Gomorrah!

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They're schools that are being controller by Churches, sometimes inside the church premises but government post teachers there. The initial agreement with the government is to allow the Churches control their schools, government only grant them teachers. It's different from public schools which are solely run by government.
What Kwara state want to do is to forcefully take out the Churches influences on the schools by crooked means cos they are muslims.