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Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by budaatum(op): 6:48pm On Mar 03, 2021
LordReed:
So if anybody can be described as an embodiment of wickedness, it's simply their nature and not a flaw? How about stupidity would it also not be a flaw?
grin grin grin
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by aadoiza: 6:52pm On Mar 03, 2021
budaatum:
Aadozia! So instead of admitting you were wrong, you modified it, lol!

As I said:
So saying that it was kant and not your master he called a bloody racist means I'm still claiming to be right abi?
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by budaatum(op): 6:54pm On Mar 03, 2021
aadoiza:
So saying that it was kant and not your master he called a bloody racist means I'm still claiming to be right abi?
You really are funny, aadozia. Your level is not here. Stick to your flat earth please.
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by aadoiza: 8:44pm On Mar 03, 2021
LordReed:
So if anybody can be described as an embodiment of wickedness, it's simply their nature and not a flaw? How about stupidity would it also not be a flaw?
Stop being shallow. What's a flaw? A flaw is a blemish, or a disfigurement that prevents an object from being TOTALLY perfect.
Stupidity means lack of intelligence, or common sense. There are adults who cannot use their intelligence, differentiate from their left hand from right due to brain damage or whatever the cause might have been. These are called stupid, not in a derogatory way as it's what they are. So their stupid is no flaw, as far as intelligence is concerned. However; someone who sometimes fails to use their common sense when they are expected to do so, can be said to a flaw, which is stupidity.
A perfectly white shirt stained with a drop of engine oil can no longer be said to be perfectly white, but it is still a white shirt. But if you completely dipped it in a bucketful of engine oil, it's no longer a white but condemned shirt.
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by LordReed(m): 9:59pm On Mar 03, 2021
aadoiza:
Stop being shallow. What's a flaw? A flaw is a blemish, or a disfigurement that prevents an object from being TOTALLY perfect.
Stupidity means lack of intelligence, or common sense. There are adults who cannot use their intelligence, differentiate from their left hand from right due to brain damage or whatever the cause might have been. These are called stupid, not in a derogatory way as it's what they are. So their stupid is no flaw, as far as intelligence is concerned. However; someone who sometimes fails to use their common sense when they are expected to do so, can be said to a flaw, which is stupidity.
A perfectly white shirt stained with a drop of engine oil can no longer be said to be perfectly white, but it is still a white shirt. But if you completely dipped it in a bucketful of engine oil, it's no longer a white but condemned shirt.
And don't be so arrogant. I am asking you questions so that what you are saying is clearer, don't act like a dickhead because you being asked questions.

And what of the person who is wickedness personified, is it a flaw?
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by Nobody: 2:29am On Mar 04, 2021
budaatum:
Please stop lying. Especially when your lying can very easily be proven.

Though, even with evidence placed in front of you I bet you'd continue insisting you are right!

Martian never called Heidegger a racist!
I don’t know about you but to me Nazism is synonymous with racism. My thanks for your “card carrying nazi” information was sarcasm.

I mentioned their racism for those who may not know because one should know the biases, prejudices, and sympathies of authors of the work one imbibes.
E.g. Kant again. His fundamental worldview or maxim about the nature of humanity was hierarchical with “whites” at the top of the pyramid. Think about the kind of maxims he would act on that he would will to become universal laws with a worldview like that.
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by Nobody: 3:17am On Mar 04, 2021
"one should know the biases, prejudices, and sympathies of authors of the work one imbibes."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gliddon

This guy was an "Egyptologist". Some people will level accusations of "Afrocentrism" on any one who calls into question and points out the fatal flaws in mainstream or established history, while being ignorant of the fact that they are espousing Eurocentric lies. If they were aware that what they think they know was written by bumptious ly ignorant bigots like George Gliddon, they would keep grains of salt handy while reading anything. Philosophy ,History, or the News.

This one is a gift Donnie. Some real shit to support your bullshit. grin
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by budaatum(op): 11:19am On Mar 04, 2021
Well, pity aadozia did not understand that.

Regardless, the book being discussed here is not about race, but about 'being', which applies to all races, and things for that matter, though that is in no way a reason for you to read what you want to remain ignorant about.

P.s. That was not sarcasm. And yes, salt, always.

Martian:
I don’t know about you but to me Nazism is synonymous with racism. My thanks for your “card carrying nazi” information was sarcasm.
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by aadoiza: 11:25am On Mar 04, 2021
LordReed:
And don't be so arrogant. I am asking you questions so that what you are saying is clearer, don't act like a dickhead because you being asked questions.

And what of the person who is wickedness personified, is it a flaw?
You're still as shallow as ever. Even a jss student would grasp this simple english.
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by aadoiza: 11:27am On Mar 04, 2021
budaatum:
You really are funny, aadozia. Your level is not here. Stick to your flat earth please.
At your age, you should be done with unconscionable skullduggery.
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by LordReed(m): 11:41am On Mar 04, 2021
aadoiza:
You're still as shallow as ever. Even a jss student would grasp this simple english.
Abeg park one side you are too full of yourself. I am asking for clarification so that I don't make false assumptions but you think you are some kinda of diva. GTFOH.
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by budaatum(op): 11:48am On Mar 04, 2021
aadoiza:
At your age, you should be done with unconscionable skullduggery.
You do not know my age, and age has nothing to do with anything since even a baby can teach you, if you chose to learn of course, instead of ignorantly make false assumptions.
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by aadoiza: 11:54am On Mar 04, 2021
LordReed:
Abeg park one side you are too full of yourself. I am asking for clarification so that I don't make false assumptions but you think you are some kinda of diva. GTFOH.
OK, but e no cause cry na. O ya pele.
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by aadoiza: 11:57am On Mar 04, 2021
budaatum:
You do not know my age, and age has nothing to do with anything since even a baby can teach you, if you chose to learn of course, instead of ignorantly make false assumptions.
You're way too old to indulge yourself in frivolities and online shenanigans as you do every so often. Pathetic MILF.
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by budaatum(op): 12:05pm On Mar 04, 2021
aadoiza:
You're way too old to indulge yourself in frivolities and online shenanigans as you do every so often. Pathetic MILF.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/13219211_ignorancecanbe_jpegada8161f76ea997e7429e1ced1fa689e

Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by LordReed(m): 12:46pm On Mar 04, 2021
aadoiza:
OK, but e no cause cry na. O ya pele.
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Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:05pm On Nov 26, 2021
DCatt:
Monkey drop my mentions! OLAADEGBU is still living in your head months after he hasn't posted anything.
One year living rent free in his head. Howdie? cheesy
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by wirinet(m): 2:01pm On Nov 26, 2021
3. ‘The race of Negroes … [is] full of affect and passion, very lively, chatty and vain. It can be educated, but only to the education of servants, ie, they can be trained.’
Gbam . I don't know of the characterization of other races, but Kant described the average Negro (especially the Nigerian).
Full of passion - (sex and enjoyment), very lively - love owanbe and ceremonies, very lively - talks loud and loves titles (Chief, Dr, Honourable, Excellency, Alhaji, etc.) Educated - but only educated to serve the interests of his colonial master's ie Queens English, religion and administration and not science and technology.
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by DCatt: 10:43pm On Dec 09, 2021
I'm ok, just taking time off to prep for the BOOMS on the way!

Great to see you again.
OLAADEGBU:
One year living rent free in his head. Howdie? cheesy
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by budaatum(op): 12:57pm On Apr 19
QuinQQ:
Thanks 4 your erudite response.
But don't you think it better to formulate your own unique views through direct experience of phenomena than rely on others' views? (As per the quote below)

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You would think I forgot you, but truth is you've never left my head since you posted the above. And I bring it here so it's kept. I'll add a link to your original post when done.

First, do you see the irony of you quoting Yoko Ono instead of presenting what is in your own head?

i ask because, as much as I have read Heidegger every hour for 12, and started it all over again, I actually find him unquotable.

You see, we do not read what others write in order to quote them, but to understand what it is they have to say.

I, for instance read a lot of early philosophers, not so I can quote them, but so I can understand how knowledge has developed.

It's the same way I would study the history of say, law, or mathematics, not so I may quote it, but so I may understand how it developed and learn from what has already been discovered instead of wasting my time with multiple errors trying to invent the wheel from scratch.

If you do not know the views that others have already expressed, you just might be repeating views that have already been expressed, and even been debunked.

And knowing the views that have already been expressed will enable you to stand on the shoulders of giants that preceded you and enable you to see much further than they saw.

For only by knowing the foundation of a thing can one "formulate your own unique views through direct experience of phenomena than rely on others' views".
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by budaatum(op):
To those who follow this thread, do know that I only finished this book in January this year like 6 years after I started, and can not claim to have fully understood what he had to say.

So I got it paid for on Audible and I'm listening to it again because I absolutely enjoyed it indeed.

The author himself did not finish writing what he wanted to write.
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by QuinQQ: 2:33pm On Apr 19
budaatum:
You would think I forgot you, but truth is you've never left my head since you posted the above. And I bring it here so it's kept. I'll add a link to your original post when done.

First, do you see the irony of you quoting Yoko Ono instead of presenting what is in your own head?

i ask because, as much as I have read Heidegger every hour for 12, and started it all over again, I actually find him unquotable.

You see, we do not read what others write in order to quote them, but to understand what it is they have to say.

I, for instance read a lot of early philosophers, not so I can quote them, but so I can understand how knowledge has developed.

It's the same way I would study the history of say, law, or mathematics, not so I may quote it, but so I may understand how it developed and learn from what has already been discovered instead of wasting my time with multiple errors trying to invent the wheel from scratch.

If you do not know the views that others have already expressed, you just might be repeating views that have already been expressed, and even been debunked.

And knowing the views that have already been expressed will enable you to stand on the shoulders of giants that preceded you and enable you to see much further than they saw.

For only by knowing the foundation of a thing can one "formulate your own unique views through direct experience of phenomena than rely on others' views".
Very, very valid points. However (there's always a however grin), the danger with vast majority of people is total lack of any original thought whatsoever that is based entirely on their own direct experience. But you do make lots and lots of sense.
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by budaatum(op): 2:40pm On Apr 19
QuinQQ:
Very, very valid points. However (there's always a however grin), the danger with vast majority of people is total lack of any original thought whatsoever that is based entirely on their own direct experience. But you do make lots and lots of sense.
Such people believe what they read and do not bother to understand first, but I think my posts will show that I am not "vast majority of people".

In fact, the books I quote the most are the Bible and the Quran, but I do not believe either book. And only a fool would believe Heidegger, who's Being and Time is a description of the "vast majority of people" so one can know and decide for oneself if one wants to be one of them.
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by QuinQQ: 3:26pm On Apr 19
budaatum:
Such people believe what they read and do not bother to understand first, but I think my posts will show that I am not "vast majority of people".

In fact, the books I quote the most are the Bible and the Quran, but I do not believe either book. And only a fool would believe Heidegger, who's Being and Time is a description of the "vast majority of people" so one can know and decide for oneself if one wants to be one of them.
You make a lot of sense. The danger though, is to subconsciously believe something is so just because someone said authoritatively in a book that it is so
Re: Being And Time - Martin Heidegger' by budaatum(op): 5:10pm On Apr 28
QuinQQ:
You make a lot of sense. The danger though, is to subconsciously believe something is so just because someone said authoritatively in a book that it is so
That danger of subconsciously believing is exactly what a conscious being must constantly be aware of. And it involves questioning ones mind continuously to ensure it is conscious and not unconsciously believing.

I must say that I am very fortunate in this regard, because every time my subconscious attempts to believe a thing, the buda in me would question and ridicule me for being so lazy. It's so tiring at times that I want to murder me to just let me be, but goodluck with that, I'm told, so I've learnt to live and let my mind live in me.

Reading widely and a lot does help, I confess. Because after reading a book that seems worthy of being believed, another book will come along and present one with its opposite that sounds equally believable and confronts one with contradictions that oppose each other and can not both be believed.

Nothing forces one to attempt to square a circle more than that, and the attempt is what grows the mind so it becomes conscious and disbelieving so one may instead try to know.

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