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Jerryherd:
Possessed people speak in other languages, depending on what kind of spirit possessed you

Kundalini Spirit.

Holy spirit manifestation through speaking of tongues is real. I am a witness.when in fear it liberates me.
To those that don't know God.speaking in tongues seems foolishness.doubters exist in all generation.from noah's ark time.
The benefits of a christian speaking in tongues cannot be overemphasized.
I am greatfull I speak in tongues

iamDrRhymes:
I used to have this roommate who was a member of one of these Pentecostal fellowships back then in campus. He had just graduated and was actually doing his clearance when I joined the room to replace him who was considerably older. So it happened one evening as we were getting to know ourselves better. He asked if I was truly born again with the evidence of speaking in tongues which I told him that I do not. He went ahead intently to tell me if I know that I can be baptized by the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongue right there in our room. Well, I must confess that I wasn't buying his idea then because I didn't know what speaking in tongues will do for me and secondly, I was of the Jehovah's Witness' stand point as I had been welcoming their teaching for years earlier.


He swiftly went to close our door from behind as he saw my readiness to give his 'Holy Spirit' a try. He prayed in tongues for while and after, he laid hands on me hoping that I will fall on the bed under his 'claimed anointing' but I could only encourage him to try harder with my theatrics. He tried and tried until I willingly granted his request and he felt better but became even more intense with his ritual. This 'Spiri koko' brother will then ask me at intervals if I have the urge to speak in an unknown tongue and I will always give him an outright 'No' till hot sweat covered us both ([/i]he must have been figuring out what could be wrong with this Pre Degree Student[i]). After about an hour of his unyielding exercise, he just told me to speak anything that comes out my mouth without refraining myself. So for the fact that I can't wait to leave that tinny room for a deep breath of fresh air, I voluntarily granted his request again. I spoke one of these popular gibberish- 'skibobobo' .... and he said [/i]'Yes! That is it! that's your tongue! Continue!'[i]. He became very happy and even worshipped God for saving a soul while I was having a good laugh inside of me. After that day, he will always ask me about how many hours I have spoken in tongues each day and of course you know, I will always give it to him so as to discharge myself on time.


Well, the above story was a funny experience I had more than 10 years ago and to the Glory of God today, I have shredded out doctrines and believe systems that deny the power of God. However, I still question the much emphasis on speaking in tongues by many churches today.

Jesus Christ said in March 16:17-18: [/i]“And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”[i]


Note that Jesus Christ made mention of other signs that will accompany those who believe, not just speaking in tongues. So why can't we have people like my former room mate say: Are you born again with the evidence of driving out demons? or with the evidence of healing the sick or any other signs mentioned in that Mark's Chapter?
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Speaking in the tongues is part of the 9 Gift of the Spirit mentioned in 1Corinthians 12:8:11. The chapter also says that the Spirit Himself give as he determines- that means that any of the 9 spiritual gifts can attest to presence of the Holy Spirit even though it is possible to operate in more than one or even all the gifts (Ephesians 1:3). Why is this singular emphasis on speaking in tongues? What happens to the gifts of interpretation of tongues? Why is the relegation of other spiritual gifts?


Infact, the gifts of tongues appear to be the least in all the 9 gift of the spirits? (Matthew 23:23) Peter never spoke in tongues before he rose the lame man at the entrance of the beautiful gate, did he? Did he speak in tongues before he rose Dorcas from the dead? Did Paul speak in tongues to restore Eutychus to life. Where exactly can we find it in the bible where signs and wonders were performed through praying in tongues?


Is it a lie that speaking in tongues has be abused or hijacked by strange spirits in the church today? You get to a church and you will see everybody muttering the same incoherent syllables in the name of speaking in tongues (Matthew 6:7). Could it be that they got their own speaking in tongues using that my formal roommates style? How does the spirit of God come upon someone who do not have the true knowledge of God? God can not be mocked! Even unbelievers already know popular lines of speaking in tongues incase they find themselves in same corner I found myself 10 years ago. You will enter a church these days and you won't even know the prayer point because nobody is or can actually interpret their 'claimed tongues' (1 Corinthians 14:28). Again, why the emphasis on speaking in tongues when other spiritual gifts like prophesy are been left unattended to?


Please note that I never said that speaking in tongues isn't real, Infact I believe in the reality of the tongues of angels because I have experienced it before (1 Corinthians 13:1) but my point here that, is speaking in tongues not just a gift amidst numerous gifts in the bible? Why will speaking in tongues be the only evidence to prove the Holy Spirit? Our emphasis as Christians should be in godly characters i.e the fruits of the spirit which are: Chastity, self control, modesty, faithfulness, gentleness, godliness, long suffering, peace, patience, kindness, joy, charity (Galatians 5:22-23). Remember what Jesus said in Matthew 7:15-20, by 'their fruits we shall know them'


Do you even know that speaking in tongues is not only a Christian phenomenon? Somethings are connecting as regards to the Christianity we practice in this age. May God grant us the spirit of discernment (1 John 4:1).

I am not surprised with your experienced. Many people want to sound like their pastor or spiritual mentor which is okay in my opinion.

What I've learnt as a Christian is there are fake Christian or believers out there. Repentance First, then restitution sanctification etc but some people just preach speaking in tongues without Repentance or salvation.

blazepascal:
this question is not of God human being are now claiming to be wise

So we shouldn't ask questions again? Correct if you can, do not condemn.

www.thetruechristianfaith.com, using the Bible, has the answer

iamDrRhymes:
Kundalini Spirit.

Lol Bobrisky spirit

AwesomeStormy00:
I am not surprised with your experienced. Many people want to sound like their pastor or spiritual mentor which is okay in my opinion.

What I've learnt as a Christian is there are fake Christian or believers out there. Repentance First, then restitution sanctification etc but some people just preach speaking in tongues without Repentance or salvation.

The fruit of the spirit should be the major concern.

Speaking gibberish is another layer of scam in the pastoral gravy train.

thesolutions:
Moses had his rod but wouldn't give the Israelite water or part the red sea with it until he was told what to do.

Knowledge activates Faith, and Faith is the energy that brings the power of God to light.
So, yes. Many people are speaking in tongues without knowing.
The first time I spake in tongue, I prophesied to someone without knowing I was doing that until the person shouted a loud amen on the other side of the wall outside the building I was praying in. then I realized I had called him by name, someone I never knew, and had spoken to him about his challenges.

I understand that speaking in tongues has become a sort of ritual to differentiate different denomination as each denomination sounds differently when speaking in the said tongue, but that doesn't make speaking in tongue an error. Those who do knows how beneficial it has been to them.

Thanks for this.

iamDrRhymes:
The fruit of the spirit should be the major concern.

You are right.

Righteousness2:
Speaking in tongues is not what you learn to do.
Speaking in Tongues is an Evidence of HolySpirit in you.
But note, you can't be living in sin and claim you have the HolySpirit and you can speak in tongues. It is not Possible.
The HolySpirit cannot stand the site of sin.
So if you are living in sin and claim you can speak in tongues you are Just rapping!

What of other evidences as written in Mark 16:17-18

And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

Oya drink a whole bottle of sniper to show evidence of having the Holy spirit.

stop deceiving yourself speaking in tongue na scam...jesus never spoke in tongue

Op please correct yourself! There is nothing like "fruits of the spirit" ......it's FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT. It therefore means that since the fruit is singular, anyone endued with the holy spirit will exhibit all the fruit and not some.

Meanwhile, speaking in tongues isn't the evidence of the holy ghost. The evidence of holy ghost is the character change in a believer. It's the transformation of a sinner to saint: the killing of sinful living and wholesome acceptance of righteousness. When the holy ghost is in you, the urge to commit sin won't be there anymore. You won't find yourself struggling not do what you found pleasure in the past.

Many people spake in tongues even untop of another man's wife. Speaking in tongues therefore isn't evidence you are saved or will make heaven. I know many great men of God who never spoke publicly in tongues yet God used them mightily.

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No!

Believers may not necessarily speak "with A New Tongue" as evidence of infilling of the Holy Spirit. This infilling experience is erroneously tagged baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Be that as it may, every believer in Christ who seeks effectiveness in God's service to humanity will at some point have an experience similar to speaking in tongue - if not physically, it will happen in the dream.

Speaking a strange tongue understood in other climes is different from tongues to commune with God privately.

The former - a tongue understood in other climes - is a special gift given to the early church as a SIGN that Christ is risen. Has it ceased? NO!

But new tongues mentioned in 1 Cor. 12 fall under the gifting of God for service to humanity within the Church. The gift of interpretation of tongue is needed to make this gift effective. 1 Corinthians 14:22-25.

The third aspect of tongues is for private communion with God. It has nothing to do with Church service. 1 Corinthians. 14:14-15.

The confusion in the Body of Christ is due to our minds. Many believers are one track minded who swing to the extremes.

A Breakdown:

There are three dimensions to tongues.

1. Tongues understood on earth but by foreigners and in other climes. A Sign and a Gift.

2. Tongues as a gift to edify the Church. Interpretation is important for effectiveness

3. Tongues for private communication with God. It is a language of angels not understood by Man, not even the speaker.

Righteousness2:
Speaking in tongues is not what you learn to do.
Speaking in Tongues is an Evidence of HolySpirit in you.
Every believer who claims to be Filled with the HolySpirit should have the evidence of speaking Mysteies.
But note, you can't be living in sin and claim you have the HolySpirit and you can speak in tongues. It is not Possible.
The HolySpirit cannot stand the site of sin.
So if you are living in sin and claim you can speak in tongues you are Just rapping!

This is not scriptural sir. Please where is it written that every beleiver who claims to be filled sud speak in tongues? Thats a lie as its not eveytime in the acts of apostles that beleivers were filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues.

Speaking in tongue does not equal having the holy spirit.

I speak in tongue but have never worked in other supernatural means like instant healing e.t.c.


My dad is a pastor, and I have never heard him speak in tongue but have seen him pray on multiple occasions and people fall under the anointing, receive instant healing, cast out evil spirits.

As much as I've resisted the urge to comment, I have to say this. The gifts mentioned in the book of Corinthians can only be activated when the apostles lay hand on the Christian. That is why Simeon the sorcerer had to attempt to bribe the apostles to lay hand on him so he can speak in tongues.

This brings me to 3 question, and they are;

1) Which apostle laid hand on the so called people speaking in tongues?

2) The gifts varies, and so why is it that no one has claimed to have the gifts of interpreting tongues?

3) Even in the model prayer (Our father who art in heaven) was there a point that Jesus spoke in tongues?

Maybe I'll know the next thing to say If all these questions are answered.

iamDrRhymes:
I used to have this roommate who was a member of one of these Pentecostal fellowships back then in campus. He had just graduated and was actually doing his clearance when I joined the room to replace him who was considerably older. So it happened one evening as we were getting to know ourselves better. He asked if I was truly born again with the evidence of speaking in tongues which I told him that I do not. He went ahead intently to tell me if I know that I can be baptized by the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongue right there in our room. Well, I must confess that I wasn't buying his idea then because I didn't know what speaking in tongues will do for me and secondly, I was of the Jehovah's Witness' stand point as I had been welcoming their teaching for years earlier.


He swiftly went to close our door from behind as he saw my readiness to give his 'Holy Spirit' a try. He prayed in tongues for while and after, he laid hands on me hoping that I will fall on the bed under his 'claimed anointing' but I could only encourage him to try harder with my theatrics. He tried and tried until I willingly granted his request and he felt better but became even more intense with his ritual. This 'Spiri koko' brother will then ask me at intervals if I have the urge to speak in an unknown tongue and I will always give him an outright 'No' till hot sweat covered us both ([/i]he must have been figuring out what could be wrong with this Pre Degree Student[i]). After about an hour of his unyielding exercise, he just told me to speak anything that comes out my mouth without refraining myself. So for the fact that I can't wait to leave that tinny room for a deep breath of fresh air, I voluntarily granted his request again. I spoke one of these popular gibberish- 'skibobobo' .... and he said [/i]'Yes! That is it! that's your tongue! Continue!'[i]. He became very happy and even worshipped God for saving a soul while I was having a good laugh inside of me. After that day, he will always ask me about how many hours I have spoken in tongues each day and of course you know, I will always give it to him so as to discharge myself on time.


Well, the above story was a funny experience I had more than 10 years ago and to the Glory of God today, I have shredded out doctrines and believe systems that deny the power of God. However, I still question the much emphasis on speaking in tongues by many churches today.

Jesus Christ said in March 16:17-18: [/i]“And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”[i]


Note that Jesus Christ made mention of other signs that will accompany those who believe, not just speaking in tongues. So why can't we have people like my former room mate say: Are you born again with the evidence of driving out demons? or with the evidence of healing the sick or any other signs mentioned in that Mark's Chapter?
‭‭

Speaking in the tongues is part of the 9 Gift of the Spirit mentioned in 1Corinthians 12:8:11. The chapter also says that the Spirit Himself give as he determines- that means that any of the 9 spiritual gifts can attest to presence of the Holy Spirit even though it is possible to operate in more than one or even all the gifts (Ephesians 1:3). Why is this singular emphasis on speaking in tongues? What happens to the gifts of interpretation of tongues? Why is the relegation of other spiritual gifts?


Infact, the gifts of tongues appear to be the least in all the 9 gift of the spirits? (Matthew 23:23) Peter never spoke in tongues before he rose the lame man at the entrance of the beautiful gate, did he? Did he speak in tongues before he rose Dorcas from the dead? Did Paul speak in tongues to restore Eutychus to life. Where exactly can we find it in the bible where signs and wonders were performed through praying in tongues?


Is it a lie that speaking in tongues has be abused or hijacked by strange spirits in the church today? You get to a church and you will see everybody muttering the same incoherent syllables in the name of speaking in tongues (Matthew 6:7). Could it be that they got their own speaking in tongues using that my formal roommates style? How does the spirit of God come upon someone who do not have the true knowledge of God? God can not be mocked! Even unbelievers already know popular lines of speaking in tongues incase they find themselves in same corner I found myself 10 years ago. You will enter a church these days and you won't even know the prayer point because nobody is or can actually interpret their 'claimed tongues' (1 Corinthians 14:28). Again, why the emphasis on speaking in tongues when other spiritual gifts like prophesy are been left unattended to?


Please note that I never said that speaking in tongues isn't real, Infact I believe in the reality of the tongues of angels because I have experienced it before (1 Corinthians 13:1) but my point here that, is speaking in tongues not just a gift amidst numerous gifts in the bible? Why will speaking in tongues be the only evidence to prove the Holy Spirit? Our emphasis as Christians should be in godly characters i.e the fruits of the spirit which are: Chastity, self control, modesty, faithfulness, gentleness, godliness, long suffering, peace, patience, kindness, joy, charity (Galatians 5:22-23). Remember what Jesus said in Matthew 7:15-20, by 'their fruits we shall know them'


Do you even know that speaking in tongues is not only a Christian phenomenon? Somethings are connecting as regards to the Christianity we practice in this age. May God grant us the spirit of discernment (1 John 4:1).

No, speaking in tougues is one of many spiritual gifts that a christian can posssess.

According to 1 Corinthians 12:8-10, 28-29; Romans 12:3-8; Ephesians 4:11; and 1 Corinthians 7:7, there are at least 22 spiritual gifts. They are as follows: Apostles; Prophets; Pastor-Teachers; Evangelists; Prophecy; Teaching; Wisdom; Knowledge; Faith; Miraculous Powers; Healing; Distinguishing between Spirits; Speaking in Tongues; Interpretation of Tongues; Helps; Service; Administration; Encouragement; Giving; Leadership; Mercy and Celibacy.

BassReeves:
1 Corinthians 12:30
'Do we all have the gift of healing? Do we all have the ability to speak in unknown languages?
Do we all have the ability to interpret unknown languages?
(i.e. Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?)
Of course not!'

Every believer do not have to 'speak in tongues' as an evidence of having the Holy Spirit because aside 'speak in tongues' there are other manifestations of the evidence of having the Holy Spirit for every believer

'Speak In Tongues' is available to be given, as a gift, as when it is deemed necessary for each believer to possess. This meaning that, not having the gift of 'speaking in tongue' is not a sign of a fault or failure to meet any certain standard

1 Corinthians 14:13–17
'13Therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret.
14For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful.
15What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also.
16Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone in the position of an outsider say “Amen” to your thanksgiving when he does not know what you are saying?
17For you may be giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not being built up.'

1 Corinthians 14:22
'So then, tongues are for a sign, not to those believing, but to the unbelieving;
but prophecy is not to the unbelieving, but to the believing.'

In the hierarchy of the gifts and manifestations of the evidence of having the Holy Spirit, 'speak in tongues' is at the lower rungs of the hierarchy ladder

It is interesting to know that Apostle Paul downplays the importance of speaking in tongues. As, Apostle Paul, on record, is seen to say, do not speak in tongues without an interpreter, but this advice and guideline, is religiously, regularly and openly disregarded during gathering worships, corporate and personal prayer sessions.

Tongues, actually is meant to be used for a sign, to 'targeted' unbelievers, but not to or for believers. The question, to be asked then is:
1. How is or are tongues, be used as a sign, to 'targeted' unbelievers?
2. Who originally is 1 Corinthians 14:22 referring to specifically, as 'unbelieving' or talking about as 'unbelieving'?

I share the same view with you.

dilicond:
Yes. According to the bible, "And Ye Shall Speak In Other Tongues After The Holy Ghost Has Come Upon You".
It's an evidence of you been filled with the Holy Ghost just like u receiving a certificate after after graduating from school to show you went to school.

Just like the Bible said "speaking in OTHER Tongues" in other words, another language apart from your mother tongue.
In those days, foreigners were astonished as to how the apostles could speak their own language. It was an ability (gift) granted by the Spirit for also envagelizing Christ in all parts of the world so that they could understand them. What we do this days is not it at all. May God help us.

Hahahahahahahaha

What nonsense

iamDrRhymes:
I share the same view with you.

It is because we are brethren I have improved the post with a third question, my brother.

gobuchinny:
This is not scriptural sir. Please where is it written that every beleiver who claims to be filled sud speak in tongues? Thats a lie as its not eveytime in the acts of apostles that beleivers were filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues.

Where did I say every Believer should speak in tongues?

Every Believer who claims to Be Filled with the HOLYGHOST should Filled with the evidence of the Holyghost.

When you surrender your life to JESUS, that is the first step.
You Press towards Sanctification which is removal of the adamic nature of Sin.
When that is done, you press towards having to be Filled with the HOLYGHOST. It's a whole new level.
Not all believers are Filled the Holyghost.

Read the whole of Acts 2 to under the impact of the Holyghost

Mikelarteta:
You can learn it naa

Really?

Topmaike007:
op what do you gain by dropping this Epistle of Paul to the Romans..

oya sumarise everything now

Find the time to read it. It's not that long

This stuff is becoming very annoying in this new generation churches. Prayer for thanksgiving, they will start speaking in tongues.. Prayers for forgiveness of sin, speaking in tongues. They have turned the whole thing to a joke. I watched a video of a female friend yesterday, she was videoing herself speaking in tongues..I was like WTF is this lady doing like this...

The proliferation of these new generation churches has dragged Christianity back..

Mikelarteta:
You can learn it naa

iamDrRhymes:
Really?

Revelation 16:13-14
'13And I saw three loathsome spirits like frogs, leaping from the mouth of the dragon (Satan)
and from the mouth of the beast (Antichrist, dictator) and from the mouth of the false prophet;
14for they are [actually] the spirits of demons, performing [miraculous] signs.
And they go out to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty.'

The 'You can learn it naa' Mikelarteta comment, is a classic example of where and what you typed in your original post about 'Is it a lie that speaking in tongues has be abused or hijacked by strange spirits in the church today?'

'You can learn it naa' is an end time deception of the demonic and foul spirits, mentioned in Rev 16:13-14, symbolised as three unclean spirits that looked like frogs. May I ask, how do frogs catch their prey? Of course, by using tongues, to snare unsuspected believers with their false speaking in tongues deception and bad indoctrination