₦airaland Forum

Maynman:
Then Buhari is not the president of Nigeria..
President of Nigeria has immunity.

actually the immunity is a mere clause.

The concept is that you cannot jail the presidency because it is an office. Controlled by the decision makers.

This is why people can sue Nigeria and the president.

But the decision maker behind the entity is the one that recieves the punishment.

So yes, you can jail google but technically the decision makers.

mhmsadyq:
Can Google be imprisoned if found guilty?

you can jail buhari but you can't jail the president of Nigeria.

Do you understand this?

Maynman:
Yes, trade is a form of barter. Trade by BARTER not barter by TRADE.

sir barter is a form of trade.
Not the other way around.

Maynman:
By what?

shouldn't thar even tell you that it is a form of it?

Maynman:
Read

seems you need people to arrange words side by side before you can understand them.

Maynman:
You are the one that should go back to school.
We have trading system and bartering system.
trade by BARTER.

From bolded, you get definition of trade from trading system. Use the context of it that was when the word “trade” was originated.

did you see bartering defined as an 'act of trading'?

Maynman:
Why then is it called trade by BARTER?? It’s a bartering system. We have trading system too.lol.

oga you need go collect your school fees. Seriously.

Like up till now you still don't know the difference between something and types of something?

We have smartphones but inside smartphone we have Androids and iPhone.

Trade is like smartphone. It is the mother term. Inside trade, we have barter and we have trading with currency.

This is why we define trading as the exchange of goods and services.

But if you want to define barter, you define it as the exchange of goods and services (This is trade) by directly with other products.

Maynman:
Lol, you dey waste mine too.
Read simple thing..
Bartering existed before trading. Read

this is wrong.

Barter and trade is the same thing. They can't exist before each other.

Think of barter and trade as two umbrellas. They are both umbrella but trade is the bigger umbrella and so covers barter.

Trade have many types. Barter is just one type of trade.

Maynman:
It was called bartering first. And they are different. It was when money was invited that “trade” to was invented.

nothing was called bartering first.

Those people engage in a form of trade called bartering.

There are different forms of trade. Trading by direct exchange of products is just one form of trading.

Maynman:
Then read. It evolved from trade and barter.

you dey waste my time Abeg.

Maynman:
Read.

you are still proving my point.
Anything that involves exchange of goods or services is trade.
Is that not what your picture is telling you

Maynman:
Read.

this is like jss 3 business studies.

We all know how modern paper money came about.

But I'm talking about the concept behind money. The WHY people accept money not the HOW it came to be.

Maynman:
Read

I have read it.
It doesn't matter if currency is involved or not.
So long as there's an exchange of products, trade has taken place.
But the exchange can be product for product (barter)
Or product for currency.
They are all trade.

Maynman:
Currency evolved from trade and barter, and trade and barter are 2 different things.

oga

Trade is the exchange of goods and services.

Maynman:
Trade and barter are 2 different things. And I’m trying to explain to you.
Currency evolved from trade and barter. You don’t know the history of why currency was printed on paper. You are only looking at it as “paper”

nah.

Barter is only a form of trade not different from trade.

When you do trade by barter or barter items, you exchange product for products.

For instance, you give someone your phone and the person gives you palm oil in return.

That's trade. But it is a trade by barter.

But with currency you need to have faith that the money a person paid to you for your phone can be used to get the palm oil that you want.

Maynman:
You don’t use faith for trade and barter. Nawa oo

I don't know why you keep holding on to trade by barter.

It's trade by barter and not trade and barter by the way.

Trade by barter is a very old form of trade, how does it concern our discussion exactly?

Maynman:
It was trade and barter that was used at that time.
We have civilizations that predated your “stories” in the Bible.
Even your “stories” were gotten from em Mesopotamia.

it doesn't matter where the stories came from.

What matters is the faith people have in them.

The Quran (I'm guessing you are a Muslim) came from a very far place. Does it matter to you?

Of course not, your beliefs in the story is all that matters to you.

Today, I don't believe in the Quran so it is useless to me. Same way you dont believe in the Bible and it is useless to you.

Maynman:
Olodo.
Currency evolved from trade and barter.
How did they buy and sell goods and services before your Jesus was born?
This is what happens when you reason from religion.

they were able to buy things because people have faith in that particular currency at that time.

The biafran currency was used to purchase things in Biafra during the Civil War because the Igbos had faith in it.

But once Biafra collapsed people lost faith in the currency and it is no longer valued as money.

A Nigerian trader will easily accept the American dollar paper note on the street of Nigeria because he has faith in it.

But an American trader will not accept the Nigerian naira on the street of America because he has no faith in it.

It's all faith. Money is by faith.

And that's why I said we all believe in 'stories' just not the biblical ones.

Maynman:
Better than someone that didn’t read, talk less of knowing what to cram.

lolz.

Money is nothing but faith.


You change your currency when you travel to other countries because they wouldn't accept it as money.

They have no faith in it. They don't believe that if they accept it from you, other people will accept it from them.

That's primarily why you change your currency.

The coins used by Jesus cannot be used to purchase things today because no one have faith in them.

The same way you can't use that old N10 note to buy something today. It's still a currency but people no longer believe in it.

Some of us understand things they teach us in school. Not only cram answers to write in exams

Maynman:
Money is not faith.
Money is a currency.
It evolve from trade and barter into cowries into coins and into paper money .

this is what happens when you cram things only for exams.

Maynman:
There are so many things you can’t eat that are valuable and occur naturally in nature.
You should know the history of why trade and barter was converted to currencies.

you are funny.


Money is nothing but faith. Faith that the next person will accept it and give you what you want.

Try taking your N50 note to the USA and use it to buy something.

Aside that, it is a worthless piece of paper.

Maynman:
All the ideologies were brought by blogs and websites.
Google don’t own any content, it’s only a search engine.
And when we think of google as a corporation we also think of his parent company. Because google can’t take any decision without it.

all the ideology are brought by blog post?

You think the idea behind money is by blog posts? You think the ideology begind the concept of God is by blog post?

Can you read and comprehend at all or you are just waiting to type blog posts all over the place?

Bros I'm a content creator and a freelance search engine optimization writer. I write blog posts that search engines feed on.

I know a lot more about blog posts than you can imagine.

Maynman:
All the “stories” google brings out you can’t sue them for it, they are only a search engine.

oga you are seeing the 'stories' as blog posts.

That is not what I implied when I say stories. In fact, blog posts are the least things I'm talking about.

When I say stories, I'm talking about ideology in our collective minds.

For instance, you can weave stories to human minds and tell them that if they give you 10% of their earnings, God will bless them.

They will accept and believe that story and give you the 10% in the hope of getting a better tomorrow.

But you can't tell a monkey to give you a banana with that same story with the promise of getting a greater return tomorrow.

The concept of corporations is a story in our collective minds. We weave these stories and believe in them.

But a monkey will never believe it, so it is useless to it.

I'm not saying stories in terms of blog posts. I'm using the term figuratively to show how ideology in our collective mind can bring non-existent things to life.

For instance, money as it is is useless. You can't eat the paper. You can't do anything with it.

But our beliefs in it made it valuable. This belief is what I called a story

Maynman:
Meta is owned by Facebook, you sue Facebook, you sue META it’s owner.
You sue the companies which is owned by the owner? Are you not suing the owner?

now you are saying rubbish.

Facebook, whatsapp and Instagram are owned by Meta.

Each of them behave as a separate business entity.

WhatsApp have its own shares, Facebook has it owns shares and Instagram has its own shares.

Meta is merely the parent company. You can sue Facebook and it will affect Meta but you cant sue Meta directly for the sins of Facebook.

Maynman:
The person that owns alphabet is also the one that owns google, so how are you going to sue the owner of google without the owner of alphabet?

the same way you can sue Facebook without suing META.

And you don't sue the owners of a company. You sue the companies. Because the companies are living and breathing entity.

Maynman:
You are yet to say any meaningful thing.
ABC is owned by google, you can’t sue google without suing ABC.
Google is only a search engine. Can you bring out cases of where google was sued.

bros

Google owns over 30 companies. It is in turned owned by alphabet.

Google is not merely a search engine.


Facebook is a social media owned by Facebook recently changed to Meta.

Prior to the change of name would you call Facebook as only a social media platform even when it owns whatsapp and Instagram?

Google is a search engine yes. But Google is also a business entity owing more than 30 other businesses.

YouTube is owned by Google. Motorola is owned by Google, Picasa, where2, Android etc are all owned by Google.

And the Google search engine is owned by GOOGLE.

This GOOGLE in turn is owned by Alphabet.

So, yes you can sue Google without sueing the parent company

And no. Google is not merely a search engine. The Google search engine is just one of the product from Google.

Just as you say Google search engine. You can say Google YouTube, Google Motorola, Google Android, Google voice, Google phone, Google calender, Google mail, Google map etc.

Stop saying things you have no knowledge about.

Maynman:
And google is owned by ABC or so, so that’s the organization you should be talking about not google the search engine.

Honestly, this is the only meaningful thing you've said since.

ABC is only the parent company. Google still is an entity.

You can sue Google for its crime and not sue ABC.

Maynman:
Google doesn’t get his information from google, it gets it from blogs and websites. Do you understand?

damn!

Maynman:
You don’t understand what you are saying.
Google create stories? lol. Google is a search engine.. websites and blogs are the one that brings the information..

seriously. OK let me explain this to you.

I know google is a search engine. But Google is also a corporation.

As a corporation, Google is treated like a human being. It is given human like rights.

For instance, Google as a corporation can cause global warming, Google can take action against people and people can take actions against it.

Google can be taken to court and it can take other people to court. It can hire lawyers to defend its case.

Google can buy and sell. It can employ people and sack them.

Now all these are the qualities and rights ascribe to a human being. But at its core, Google is not a human being. Rather we make up the stories that treat Google like a human being.

This is the same way we treat God. We don't know if God exists or not. But we weave stories around him and give him certain qualities that brings him to existence.

Today God 'owned churches, money and even NGO organizations'.

Compared to Google, Meta (Facebook), Microsoft, God is another entity that is a product of our imagination.

Through this imaginations we've created enormous stories around them to bring them to life.

If everyone, everywhere stop believing that Google or Facebook is an entity, then Google can no longer speak or be taken to court. Google will no longer be punished.

Rather it is the people behind them that will be punished for their crimes.


Like who doesn't know that Google is a search engine that gets information from blogs and websites? Who doesn't know how Facebook works? Those are basics.

I'm not talking about their function. I'm talking about the ENTITY called Google, Meta, Twitter and God.

Maynman:
Facebook is not owed by google and What does that got to do with stories?

na wa o.

You and I are as far apart as heaven and earth in in the way we are seeing things. There's no point talking anymore.

Maynman:
Which stories do google bring ?
Google is a search engine hope you know? We have mamma and others too.

Oga I'm talking about the entity called Google.

Think for instance, when people talk about sueing Facebook who do you think they are sueing?

AntiChristian:
We have the proof Biblically here but do you have a proof from the Qur'an that incest is "outrightly" permitted as quoted above?

lolz.

You don't have to outrightly say anything to prove it.

There's a thing called implication.

If Allah created only a man and woman from the beginning. And those two gave birth to all of mankind.

Then it implies that their first filia generation marry each other. Which implies that Allah sees nothing wrong in incest.

Because if it is wrong, then he would have created more than one man and woman.