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Crime / Re: Bungling Nigerian Doctor Gets One Year Ban In UK by prettyprettywow: 8:39pm On Jul 15, 2014 |
enough of all these. I'm tired already. Let's stop using blackmail. Nobody is above mistake |
Health / Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by prettyprettywow: 2:33pm On Jul 15, 2014 |
Has it gotten to the point of obsessing over me, really? The fact is that i don't even know if you exist or not. If you like, sleep on my profile, while I move higher silentdon: |
Health / Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by prettyprettywow: 11:15pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
I didn't even bother reading the nonsense after the first line. Patient's perspective indeed. If you are a patient, I advise you first take care of your deteriorating health before making any contribution on issues you know nothing about. Go back to your hospital bed biko. jpphilips: 20 Likes |
Health / Re: Nma Strike: The Patients's Perspective by prettyprettywow: 6:26pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
Another Dr weeping thread. Pele. opening new threads every now and then will not solve the problem at hand jpphilips: 20 Likes |
Health / Re: Nma Strike, The Nurses' Perspective. by prettyprettywow: 4:36pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
and I guess patients were not dying when Doctors were working abi? Imagine? hehehehheeheh. Whe patients die in German hospitals and other developed countries with the most sophisticated healthcare. when our hospitals are nothing more than mortuary when Drs were working. You are here claiming miracle workers. I'm sure patients did not die when JOHESU went on strike. Infact they received the best care when only Drs were working Mtcheeeeww Aura2: 2 Likes |
Health / Re: Nma Strike, The Nurses' Perspective. by prettyprettywow: 4:31pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
the same way you liken the hospital and patient care to aircraft and court. lol Aura2: |
Health / Re: My Colleagues,please Imagine This Clown!! by prettyprettywow: 4:18pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
The only thing they can do is beg. That is the ideal thing. That is politicians for you. Use NMA strike for cheap publicity. Don't forget that there is difference between begging and granting your wish. Don't see his "begging" as a win for NMA. nah.patient will beg, Fg will beg, even johesu sef go join beg una. but as for granting your demands, you people are still sitting on a veeerrryyy long thing. FG can only grant the reasonable ones like NHIS (which johesu has ammended), trust fund. but know that You can't force Govt to succumb to your selfish demands. People can only "publicly beg" and at the end, NMA will shamelessly go back to work. You guys are still in Denial stage. very soon, you will move to the next stage. It's a pity that your stages of grieve is moving slowly. Imagine, the world is against NMA (JOHESU, FG, "IGNORANT NIGERIAN PUBLIC", NIC, NUC, TUC, CBN), and you people refused to see the handwriting on the wall. Is this a case of persecutory delusion?Then, you are on your own. You want to challenge your master phantom: like I said in one of my earlier posts,you people(johesu,FG and the ignorant Nigerian public)are in the very early stages of grief particularly denial and anger. 2 Likes |
Health / Re: My Colleagues,please Imagine This Clown!! by prettyprettywow: 2:58pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
He is helping NMA return to work without shame. He is trying to save NMA's face, you can call off strike with reason that you guys heeded to his advise, . But you guys won't see it that way. I trust Jonathan to do the right thing. Some of your colleagues have returned to work, and I expect you to join them. You guys think once you issue strike threat, govt will succumb as usually. Sorry, it's no longer business as usual. The strike has entered 2weeks yet no show. |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 6:48pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
really? did you just type that? I can see that you have selective amnesia sainty2k3: Only if people will stop insulting and bring up reasomabnle argument alone. This discussioom would have made a lot of sense, but my johessuite here always start the insult 1 Like |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 6:44pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
did you see his post? He tried to convert his salary to dollars bigtt76: You shouldn't retort to insults dear. OP posted in dollars and we all know most members here are based outside Nigeria and ought to know the difference ...we bi one Nigeria fa |
Health / Re: NMA Strike: Simple Questions In The Court Of Public Opinion by prettyprettywow: 6:40pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Do all Drs write incoherently? I wonder silentdon: 1 Like |
Health / Re: When Doctors Go On Strike Death Rate Falls. by prettyprettywow: 6:00pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
who says they don't visit hospitals when Drs are on strike? where do they visit? That is when things will start working well self esoecially in a country like Nigeria. lol MovingTrain: I personally reason in line with the research findings about death rate when doctors are on strike. It might be lower, granted. |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 5:32pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
hahahahahahah. chaii. is that the only line you've got? Can't make any brilliant arguement? When I fall sick, I will see my dr for medical care, because that is what he is trained to do. However, I will rely on the nurses for their nursing care, and the lab dudes for medical test as well as the pharmacist for the right drug. micseyi: 5 Likes |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 5:01pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Thanks for your analysis. But will you also say that Nigerian nurses and other medical workers are well paid compared to their counterparts in US? your ability to earn high salary depends on the hours you put into your work. Imagine your sister pulling 140k with just an LVN? imagine making 2,200 with just 3weeks certificate program?can you compare that to the salary of a matron in Nigerian tertiary hospital?My main point is that there are things to put into consideration when making comparison on salaries abroad and home and between professionals. And yes, Nigerian health workers are grossly under paid not just the Drs. You don't just pull out a figure out of nowhere like the OP did and expect people to digest it just like that. Thanks once more obodoyibo: @prettyprettywow |
Health / Re: NMA Strike: Simple Questions In The Court Of Public Opinion by prettyprettywow: 4:19pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Though you reasoning is somehow, But if I have a private hospital, then I will have to be in charge, if not, I will employe a seasoned administrator to be in charge of the day to day activities while i do the work I was trained to do.. Public hospital is govt hospital, so govt should decide who should head it and not an individual group dalhat14: |
Health / Re: NMA Strike: Simple Questions In The Court Of Public Opinion by prettyprettywow: 4:05pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
1.Because private hospital has to be headed by the owner. which kind reasoning be this? 2. it is not your business to decide if having consultant in other field will affect the patient or not. let the govt and the patient decide that. 3. Don't we have director of public health in the ministry of health? what is his/her functions? And who told you Surgeon-General has to be a Dr? 4.Isn't there already relativity in Nigerian health sector? What level does a Dr start and what level do others start? 5. What is the role of Directors? Don't we all have rights to get to the peak of our careers? why should you allow one group get to Directorate level and prevent others ? 6. You last question is incoherent. I will respond to that when you write coherently. Thank You dalhat14: A lot of stories have been peddled around in the last few days all in an attempt to swing public opinion to either side of the divide, well here are pertinent questions we should ask ourselves 3 Likes |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 4:01pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
No mind them. In Nigeria, even if patients want to sue, they usually sue the hospital which is govt owned, and in most cases, they settle out of court. So he should tell me if any patient have ever sued an individual Dr in Govt hospitals? The right thing is to sue the employer. It is left for the hospital and the professional body to discipline the erring professional Morotov1: Somebody please get a lawyer to educate Dr phantom...............what the f****k. Although this can occur when others are accessory before or after the fact while doctors are the main culprit or vice versa. |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 3:53pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
I don't have time for that. I live in the present, for tomorrow will think about itself. Remember things don't always go the way we plan. phantom: I am being logical. I know you are woman and logic is not really your strong suit but make an effort to leave emotions behind and paint me your own scenario. |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 3:52pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Nigerian drs and their insecurities sha. I no too blame them. Imagine mobilizing their members to stop the implementation of post graduate college of medical lab sci in Nigeria. They Feel that the progress of others will sideline them. Thinking the whole world is against them which is not so. 1 Like |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 3:43pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Chai, it is true that young men shall dream dreams. Dream on. na you get your sleep phantom: why everything for you na fight? |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 3:40pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
You just described yourself and your cohorts. If Drs are not satisfied with what the Govt is offering them, they should go to the private sector nah? or open their individual hospitals. It is as simple as that. why hold the Govt at ransome? if you feel you are not well appreciated, then go to where you will be appreciated. That is the rule of life. Stop causing nuisance to others. Beside, it is the Drs that are never satisfied with themselves, hence they pork nose into other people's affairs. UCHE, FACE YOUR WORK!!!! DrObum: 4 Likes |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 3:34pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
I paid the same school fees with medical students if you must know DrObum: 1 Like |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 2:40pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Then you people should go and leave us alone with Govt. Nobody is forcing you to stay with the Govt owned hospitals. Haba! Better still, you can migrate to US, UK, or Canda make we hear word phantom: I agree! more and more doctors are moving to private practice in Nigeria. private practice is particularly profitable for specialist doctors. |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 2:37pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Go and rest jare. all the medical and health sciences students pay the same school fees in Govt owned universities. Haba!! don't start spreading lies. let there be relativity in university tuition!!!! DrObum: 1 Like |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 2:10pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
so we already have the relativity we are talking about? so what is now the problem? ziga: |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 2:08pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Another blame the nurse post. later they will claim that they are the once that get sued. A typical Naija Dr will never ever own up to his mistake thegeneral84: 4 Likes |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 1:50pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
NMA starts at level 12 after NYSC, tell me any civil servant that starts at that? so what other relativity are we talking about? Until you start paying higher fees than others in school, then DO NOT TALK!! thegeneral84: |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 1:48pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Now don't we have anaesthetic nurses? midwives? intensive care nurses? peri-operative nurses?emergency room nurses?psychiatric nurses? really? Mtcheeeeeeeeeewwwwwww Dio1: There really aren't specialist nurses in nigerian teaching hospitals , so your point is baseless, nigerian nurses and their johesu cohorts are not interested in specialization… they're more concerned about salary 2 Likes |
Health / Surgeon-general Can Only Be Created By The Legislature At The Federal Level by prettyprettywow: 5:34am On Jul 13, 2014 |
The Minister of Health, Prof. Onyebuchi Chukwu, has said the post of surgeon-general can only be created by the legislature at the federal level. He said this in an exclusive interview with SUNDAY PUNCH, on the sidelines of the West African College of Surgeons secretariat foundation-laying ceremony in Lagos. He was asked to respond to one of 24 demands made by the Nigerian Medical Association, which embarked on a nationwide strike on July 1, 2014. According to item seven on the association’s list of demands, a Surgeon-General of the Federation must be appointed with immediate effect. But the minister said the position was for technical purposes and could only be appointed by the National Assembly. He said, “The position of surgeon-general does not necessarily mean it will be for a surgeon. It’s going to be a technical position; someone who is not a political appointee can address technical issues about medicine in the health sector. “So that one is something that I think the whole country will decide, either through constitutional amendment or the National Assembly making the appropriate law.” The NMA’s demands were contained in an open letter addressed to the Secretary to the Government of the Federation. Some of the demands by the apex body for medical doctors include the discontinuation of recognition of non-medical doctors as directors, as well as of the title of consultant for any other health worker other than medical doctors. Others include payment of clinical duty and hazard allowances; withdrawal of the Central Bank of Nigeria circular on medical laboratory equipment; restoration and proper funding of overseas clinical attachment; and the setting up of a health trust fund to enhance the upgrade of all hospitals in the country. http://www.medicalworldnigeria.com/2014/07/only-legislature-can-appoint-surgeon-general-mdash-health-minister/#.U8ILsPldVCg |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 9:07pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
So why do you say That RNs earn that? really? so they now earn same with CNA, LVN. So tell me their entry level DebateNigeria: |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 9:03pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
I am not here to compare Drs and Nurses salaries. I said some specialist nurses earn more than some specialist Drs using the examples I gave. You don't expect to receive same salary with a Dr that spent atleast 12years in training with average of 300k school debt while nurse spends about 4years with little or no student loan. These things are put into consideration when negotiating for salary But the conditions are different in Nigeria. Nurses have the opportunity of getting fundings and scholarships which a medical student will never get in US, because they believe that Drs can always make money later in life hence the high medical school fees But nigerian Drs don't want to put all those into consideration (low pay during residency, high student debt, high malpractice insurance) cos they work in govt hospitals and do not pay higher sch fees DebateNigeria: 2 Likes |
Health / Re: Salaries Of Doctors And Other Health Workers In Some Countries by prettyprettywow: 8:56pm On Jul 12, 2014 |
do your research well. don't just quote just for the sake of arguement. if registered nurses earn that, then tell me what certified nurse assistants(CNA) and licensed vocational nurses (LVN) earn DebateNigeria: 2 Likes |
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