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They want to compete with NBC

Godwin Ezeemo is the answer.

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Basic123:
What you can do is to further intensify the telling them of rhetorics of how yorubas betrayed their forefathers in civil war and how are they not to be trusted.I'm very sure that they will change.

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Si eba puo...
You don't belong here...

PentiumPro:
The igbo northerners are not as cosmopolitan as their counterparts in the SW, you can't argue that. The SW igbos don't feel the kind of apprehension the Northern Igbos feel as they feel more secured and can factally express themselves way better than the northern ibos.

While the Norhern igbo are restricted in expressing themselves in the North for the sake of religion sensitivity to the way of life of the muslim north, the SW or igbo lagosians don't have such inhibitions.

Stop comparing the Lagos based Igbos that mostly work in big time and modern offices with sabo garri traders in the north...just stop already.

Meanwhile who is talking about Nnamdi Kanu? abi your eyes dey see other things?

I don't know what your mission is, but I'm particularly worried about those so called lasgidi.. I'm not debating with you on the Igbo in the north and west. I'm saying the later have some of them that disrespect the Igbo culture.

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PentiumPro:
Who else is finding this distinction and dichotomy amusing and funny?

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What you don't know is bigger than you don't you think?
You don't know there are Igbo community in America that call themselves Igbo America abi? A simple Google would have given you a clue...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo_Americans

EzeCanada:
Lest I forget to mention that I commend your passion. Your observations as regards the attitude of Ndi Igbo resident in Lagos are valid. But then, this is also correct for all Igbos. For Igbo is Igbo and there is no such thing as Igbo Lagosian or what have you.

Just like the Igbos control the movie industry, the Yorubas on the other hands are masters of the media. You have to give it to them. They own and control influential media houses in Nigeria and use them to their astronomical advantage. Lagos is the operational base of majority of these media houses.

Therefore one could be right to say that the opinion, psychology and the thought processes -over the years- of majority of the Igbos resident in Lagos and other south west states are constantly being shaped by news/information emanating from these Yoruba owned media houses being the direct recipients.

Imagine the impact of being strategically fed with propaganda through out your life? You should then begin to see why I summerised it as a leadership failure from Igbo leaders.

Don't forget that these information from these media houses are basis for which social, political, cultural and economic debates and discussion are shaped.

Ever thought of the collosal impact the above mentioned points already fermented on the psyc of your "Igbo Logosians". What are young Igbo minds being fed daily by Yoruba controlled media, schools etc? Food for thoughts

Nwanne! Nara aka ato! Nna GI muru GI!
You have made a huge point! And let me add also that these things are all deliberate.
I was told by a Yoruba friend that, they ate raising a crop of Igbo extraction in Lagos that will deal with us. I did not understand what he meant in 2010. Now in seeing it.
I don't want to blame them for this, I'm only blaming our people for falling prey. Just recently,Gideon okeke said" fvcck Biafra " I was like, even If you don't support it, someone like that should not use the word to describe our collective history. Another artist of Igbo extraction said, who Igbo language help? These are the kind of behavior you will be getting from them.

walepackage:
yes.But,having travel to both west,north and east,i can dedude that their behavioural trait still differs."igbos" in the core north are not well groom into the system or environment as such they"cluster" into a particular geographical sphace only few live far away with its members in the core north, this was to give them "sense of belonging and sense of protections",unlike those in the "west" where they spread into the nooks and cranny of lagos.The disparity between these two settling arrangement also bring about different ways of perception and attitude.That's to say,the unified structure they have in north makes them developed that "we feelings"and better understang of the culture,than those of lagos.Flexibility and open mind is stil atributed to this set than those at home.My take

I sincerely respect your view ,its very clear, but there is a big difference here.
Let me use your analogy here, the Igbo in the north have the " we feeling " and understand the culture, what could be the reason for the Igbo in Lagos not to at least understand the culture and accord it the respect.
Ok you said they spread across Lagos, which is not enough reason. How about Igbo in America? They don't live in clustered pattern too. So it's not really anything serious..
it is very annoying seeing an adult of an Igbo extraction speak ill of the Igbo culture just to be seen as lasgidi. The show off is too much. They live the fake life that is very unfamiliar with Igbo people.

SlayerForever:
To be honest I don't know what is causing this apathy to Igbo issues on the part of those born in lagos. While in Lagos,I wasn't the overly proud Igbo type I am now but I never looked down on my people. Never. Infact,I frowned at Yoruba behaviour and lifestyle,it was mostly bullshit to me. But about these bunch we're talking about here,these ones are something else. To be honest these ones are efulefu,no other way to put it. They carry Yoruba on the head,they denigrate the Igbo Nation etc. My brother I can only point the blaming finger at the parents of these people,I think they're not doing enough to enculture the kids with necessary tidbits to ensure the kids know who they are. Chineke nyelu anyi aka.

Nicely put, I would not put the whole blame on their parents, I think the major parts of the blames come from institutional systematic bias against the Igbo people.
Because northern Igbo and Igbo Americans are not guilty of this.

TheCabal:
I think you lost ur brains. Easterners make all their money outside the east. The numbers bare it all.

For the answer to your question. Watch the video where Nnamdi solicited for guns and bullets.

And that sh!t about Ibo people being "republicans". .. from the way IPOB has enslaved the masses of the east.... it is highly improbable... they are most likely socialist... at least the easterners ibos are.

Please get off my mention, we are having intelligence discussion here..

EzeCanada:
Lest I forget to mention that I commend your passion. Your observations as regards the attitude of Ndi Igbo resident in Lagos are valid. But then, this is also correct for all Igbos. For Igbo is Igbo and there is no such thing as Igbo Lagosian or what have you.

Just like the Igbos control the movie industry, the Yorubas on the other hands are masters of the media. You have to give it to them. They own and control influential media houses in Nigeria and use them to their astronomical advantage. Lagos is the operational base of majority of these media houses.

Therefore one could be right to say that the opinion, psychology and the thought processes -over the years- of majority of the Igbos resident in Lagos and other south west states are constantly being shaped by news/information emanating from these Yoruba owned media houses being the direct recipients.

Imagine the impact of being strategically fed with propaganda through out your life? You should then begin to see why I summerised it as a leadership failure from Igbo leaders.

Don't forget that these information from these media houses are basis for which social, political, cultural and economic debates and discussion are shaped.

Ever thought of the collosal impact the above mentioned points already fermented on the psyc of your "Igbo Logosians". What are young Igbo minds being fed daily by Yoruba controlled media, schools etc? Food for thoughts

Nwanne! Nara aka ato! Nna GI muru GI!
You have made a huge point! And let me add also that these things are all deliberate.
I was told by a Yoruba friend that, they ate raising a crop of Igbo extraction in Lagos that will deal with us. I did not understand what he meant in 2010. Now in seeing it.
I don't want to blame them for this, I'm only blaming our people for falling prey. Just recently,Gideon okeke said" fvcck Biafra " I was like, even I you don't support it, someone like that should not use the word to describe our collective history another one said, who Igbo language help? These are the kind of behavior you will be getting from them.

realhumanity:
Tackle the economy of the east first and watch Igbo's move enmasse back to the east.

Nwanne soup wet sweet na money make am.
However' I'm not saying anything about the economy for now.

Develpeast:
You are being emotional, so as other people too. I have said times without number, if they are not seeing a better or atleast the same alternative, they will not support biafra. This is a very strong problem you will get from diaspora igbos staying and making money in different parts of the country apart from igboland. These guys have grown comfortable and are making so much money. You want someone to leave his comfort zone to start all over? You have an advantage in them, that is, eat their monies. They are willing to donate millions of money to the development of igboland which will in turn look sexier for them to move. I am not just talking about lagos igbos, i am talking about the general diaspora igbos who do not live or do business in the east.

From my estimated calculation, we can generate as high as 2 trillion naira yearly if we engage these diaspora igbos in the development process of the igboland. It is when you look at the economic aspect of biafra, that many businessmen and professionals will answer you. the rest will just look at you and laugh. I am very serious.

See brother, you are not getting my point read my post again ...I'm not talking about leaving Lagos or having a better Biafra.
The some Igbo lagosians have so much disregard for Igbo culture and Igbo land compare them to northern Igbo, Igbo Americans and Igbo diasporas

989900:
Crapola.

do I know you.?

babyfaceafrica:
and you are the one to tell them?..they are not kids..let the do what they like!!!

Are you Igbo? If you are not please don't bother

onyegwu:
What is the ideology of the Eastern base Igbo that's where u should start from and not the other way round. I schooled in the east and I also witness the way they behave and carry them selves. The eastern brought ups are filled with so much hate wap ideas. They have refuse to liberate them selves with the ideas and stories handed down to them with liberality but instead they took it hook, line and sinker all at once. They want u to hate like them follow traditions that are not progressive be hostile follow the syndrome of u should make it whether hook or crook. What is the complain the Op is even making so that we can tackle it head on with him because he could not point exactly what the Lagos Igbo's have done wrong. What is wrong in speaking the Language u understand with another person that understands it too? Your Governors and traditional rulers who are Igbo custodians what have they been able to do in the east with all their Igbo wholesomeness. Lagos is progressive because of the liberality so if an Igbo Lagos brought up has caught into it leave them and face your wholesomeness as an Igbo eastern brought up. Nobody cares about that it doesn't put food on the table.

Chai! See the spot here...
Where did you get the version that the Igbo in the east is full of hate! This is same narrative the Yoruba and Hausa have been selling and here you are buying it..
Which story are you talking about? Before Nnamdi KANU who talks about biafra in the east? Nobody!. It was never a topic anywhere.
Ok, let me accept what you said about the se Igbo, how about northern Igbo and Igbo Americans?
Dear brethren, read this again and again, you will indeed understand where I'm coming from. This my brother has exhibited what I have been saying...

Basic123:
this guys shouldn't be bothered that lagos is lagosizing and yorubanizing their folks na.I thought lagos is a no mans land

It is sickening, I have lost so many relatives to Yoruba. They think not like Igbo man again. They have been assimilated completely that they speak ill of Igbo more than afonja

babyfaceafrica:
Which one is Lagos Igbo?....igbo is igbo....you guys should stop sidelining some people...they are as Igbo as the ones in the SE..must everybody agree to the same thing?

That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying we should agree, but they don't even know themselves

walepackage:
Well,let me just chipp in.Studies has shown that behaviour,attitude,thinking or reasoning of"man" are all shape by external coersion(family,culture,religion,education,environment and peers)which they internallize and shape their personality.In an attempt to answer your question op,your "folks men",born and breed in "lagos" wil definately act,behave and reason in a different dimention compare to those at home,not that they looks diferent,but becouse of those factors mentioned aboved.Consciously or subconciously it interplay in their ways and how they perceived certain phenomena.Conclusively,these set of people born and breed outside the"igboland" mostly have wat i call "dual personality and flexible"and those at home usually "rigid and conservative".Its a natural law of "man" not applicable to "igbos"only.My take on it.

You are right, but this is not the case. They have total disregard and poor knowledge of Igbo land and culture, far less than Igbo Americans and Igbo northerners..

SlayerForever:
Lagos is, but it doesn't explain why they chose to be ignorant and silly. I went to secondary school in Lagos, and university in the East. I have the first hand information on what I'm saying. I met these so called lasgidis in school, their reasoning was very uncultured and annoying. They prefer speaking Yoruba to Igbo. I picked a fight with them occasionally. I exposed and shredded them. That they became very ashamed of themselves. They would think they are better than Eastern Igbo, they will be quick to label someone igbotic.
This basically sums up my lasgidi coursemates in University. Stupid bunch. All of them to be honest. However,label me Igbotic and I revel in it.

You are on point you know what I'm saying.. I have MRT couple of them. It is very shameful. They don't even know anything about themselves.
They don't know their home. And they don't care. They behave like Akatas. .

PentiumPro:
The so called Lagosian igbos have heard the different sides of the stories about Nigeria and have had long contact with other Nigerians to under the different shades and nuances that make up this awesome and complex country, and that we all have common enemies that are majorly the elites from all Nigeria tribes without exception

On the other the igbotic home grown and based igbos have not been able to understand Nigeria above what they are told by their parents and uncles. They see an average other Nigerian as part of their own problem and a reason why he or she is still a failure at over 30 yrs without anyyhing tangible to point to as achievement outside the igbotic achieved Bsc

Look, leave that side. Don't even defend these people, if they have actually seen or heard any version it would have been better, but they don't have at all. They are like lost sheep. What about Igbo diasporas, Igbo northerners, why are they not like lagosians? You are not getting my point. Its not about nnamdi KANU...it is has been there since.

ehinmowo:
Money on their minds bro. No time to say no time




By d way, if Nairaland ban you, cawid.com will welcome without restriction

Listen, its not all about the money. They don't make more money than Igbo from other places..

SlayerForever:
I meet Lagos born Igbo very well here in the east(I'm Lagos born myself but currently in the east) and I must tell you when they talk you will shake your head in pity. They are so so ignorant,so silly and so lost. I must be very plain,many of them are just sheep. They have no regard for the culture,they have no regard for the language...Nothing. Growing up outside Igboland has taken it's toll negatively on many of them. They denigrate the Igbo Nation with reckless abandon It is a pity they're foolishly echoing sentiments they absolve from Igbophobic nonentities in Lagos. I must tell you the truth,it is the dust Nnamdi Kanu is raising with the secessionist movement that has made some of them start asking pertinent questions.

Nwanne chukwu gozie GI. I remember my first time I'm the east as a teenager, when I was looking for admission. I have never looked down on anybody, but some of these lasgidi guys are very uncultivated, loud and empty. They would talk about things in Lagos as if they live with it. As if they amount to something. I laugh.
You ask them where are they staying in Lagos. They would start lying. Trust me, I know every nook and cranny of Lagos.
These people know nothing. They will be forming classless swag, with nothing to show for it.

I have been very worried about the development. They don't know what they are doing to themselves.
Check all the artist of Igbo extraction from the east, north and compare it with those from Lagos.

Check out the entrepreneur from these zones too. I have come to feel that there is something wrong somewhere. I may be wrong but it is very very serious. They're not the only people born outside the Igbo land.

Northern born are very Igbo to the core at least majority of them.

ImperialYoruba:
They have sold their rights of ancestry to Oduduwa, they are currently pseudo-Yorubas, they have to prove their unalloyed loyalty to Oduduwa in order to be accepted as proto-Yoruba. They can never be Yoruba in full.

Why are you jealous of their achievements?

I kinda believe you though. You people can do anything. I don't trust you.
It is not achievement in any way, the Igbo Americans and Igbo northerners are not doing badly.

Freemancipation:
Here is my opinion. There are igbos who have made it big in Nigeria. They have attained great successes inspite of the dysfunctional system Nigeria has. Some of them have gotten comfortable in that system because they made it. A lot of these igbos live in Lagos and some of them see Biafra agitation as the excuse Nigerian people and government will use to steal and destroy their hard earn wealth; their sweat and blood. So these people understandably are against Biafra even though they know that what Nnamdi Kanu is saying is true.

The goal for IPOB is to get the the international community involved through sanctioning Nigeria if they try to plunder people's wealth after Biafra referendum. IPOB still has a lot of work to do.

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What you said is true, but what my post is saying is quite different. Look most successful Igbo people are not lagosians infact. If you list top 20 successful Igbo man, no lagosian will be on the list.
The point I'm making, is comparing Igbo lagosians Igbo northerners and Igbo Americans. You will understand where I'm coming from.

EzeCanada:
The statement that "Igbo Lagosians are problematic and ignorant to Igbo nation" sounded stereotypical to me and believing this to be so looks fallacious.  According to your analogy, I should be considered an Igbo Lagosian being born and raised in the heart of Lagos. However, contrary to your postulation, I am one of the greatest advocate and champion of Igbo agenda, course and culture at home and particularly in the diaspora. Being a Lagos breed never shaped my thought process negatively.

Here are few questions to consider however:

1. Is it no longer a fact that ndi Igbo are republican in nature?

2.  Are political views and opinion of Igbo political, traditional, religious, social, opinion leaders; elites and mases at home divided or unified? Use the Mazi Nnamdi Kalu declaration of "No referendum No election"  as a case study.

3. While mulling on Q2 reflect on the opinion of the following individuals on the issue raised in Q2 based on the classification in Q2 and mirror it against your declaration. 1. Ekweremadu 2.The so called South East Governors 3. Igbo legislators 4. Ohanaeze Ndi Igbo leadership 5. The Obi of Onitsha who happens to be the leader of South East traditional rulers 6. Rev. Mbaka 7. Charles Oputa aka Charlie boy 8. Anambra Lawyer Association ...just to mention a few.
Are the views of the listed individuals or group converging or divergent. Is it any different from that of the so called Igbo Lagosians subgroup?

4. What city has the largest concentation of Ndi Igbo outside Igbo land....Lagos peharps?

5. If we both agree it is Lagos. Is it not logical to expect that the number of ndi Igbo with divergent opinion would also be highest in number considering Lagos has the largest non-Igbo state population?

6. Have you ever looked at this issue as a failure in leadership? Past Igbo leaders lacked foresight and ought to have involved themselves in massive educational, empowerment and  awareness campaigns in Igbo communities outside Igbo land.

Otherwise beside what Nnamdi Kanu is doing now, do you have any record where any renounced Igbo leader or group of leaders ever involved himself/herself/themselves in sanitization or political emancipation of ndi Igbo resident in Lagos through any known awareness campaign?

7. Hope this answers your question to some extent?

First of all I want to thank you for your sincere opinion.
However, I was very careful that is why I did not generalise. I used the word
"Some" so you are out of the list.
I grew up in Lagos with my parents, though I was not born there. I have many cousin who grew up there too, and when you hear them talk,You spit. Honestly its disheartening, the Igbo Americans are very Igbo to the core, you need to see igbofest and some other programs being organized by young people of Igbo extraction in American. They pride themselves as Igbo America. They wear it like crown. Example Jidenna, look at that young man, he carries Igbo on head like gala. Compare him with Lagos born artists like Gideon okeke, samklef and DJ zeez. These three persons s are Igbo born with no respect for Igbo culture. They are very despicable.

Then, to those points you raised.
1. Yes Igbo people are very Republican in nature.

2. There are divergent opinions in the East. It is very healthy if you ask me. I don't really like the herds mentality. It encourages incompetence.
3. Yes, very true, it is very healthy. But you will agree with me that,these people may differ but only on methodology of Nnamdi KANU. They will never insult the
Igbo people and its culture in any way..

But I don't want to centre this discussion on nnamdi KANU. Let us focus on the topic.
4. Lagos is, but it doesn't explain why they chose to be ignorant and silly. I went to secondary school in Lagos, and university in the East. I have the first hand information on what I'm saying. I met these so called lasgidis in school, their reasoning was very uncultured and annoying. They prefer speaking Yoruba to Igbo. I picked a fight with them occasionally. I exposed and shredded them. That they became very ashamed of themselves. They would think they are better than Eastern Igbo, they will be quick to label someone igbotic. In fact I took it very personal if I hear someone say igbotic in derogatory way back then in school.
5. No, their own divergent opinion is always laced with staggering ignorance! They don't know what Nigeria is. To them they are being carried away with what they see on the screen.
6. We may have not had the kind of leadership we deserve, but remember. Most of our leaders are suffering from defeatism. They were humiliated during the war. So I'm not counting on them again.

We are the one that will produce the renowned leader we are seeking for, and that's why Nnamdi a British Igbo had to step up. Many will follow too.

However, What I am saying has nothing to do with leadership. It is the attitude of some of our people born and brought up in Lagos. How about Igbo Americans that have been very formidable? Who is mentoring them?
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Yes, you have actually given me the excuses, on why they are very problematic and ignorant.
Igbo lagosians like you need to do more to save this trend. It is becoming embarrassing.
They have this fantasy that's beclouding their reasoning, maybe because of what they see on the screen.I just don't know.

intervention3:
..calling your post stupid is not hate speech but insult ..that's the problem we're having ..there's difference between hate speech and insult

sorry, all of them are same, why would you describe my opinion as "stupid"?
Can you use the word stupid on air, if we are arguing on something?

Michael004:
Only you created a thread, only you dey comment. Occupying space. Are from suffering from first page issue? To your question. Because they know the eastern igbos are senseless and need not to take them serious.

I was not occupying spaces. I was only lamenting on how the mods pulled down my previous post for no reason...

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OAFMods:
Pls keep you stupid queries at the other forum you held your ground let NL rest from silly senseless Igbo tread thank u.

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Please don't call my post stupid again, that is hate speech..

Pazienza

Cc; afam4eva ilovemoney, excelng, raker300

There is no hate speech whatsoever in my post. I wonder why you're always pulling down my post on Nairaland.

Why are you pulling down this harmless thread?