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Islam for Muslims / Re: Atheists, Allah is Your Creator. Repent, Bow And Stop Being Like Shaitan by proudlyYoruba(m): 11:13am On Jul 20, 2018
Earthquake1:
Why is it that 98% of Islamic nations are backward?
stop throwing figures anyhow
Sports / Re: Uruguay Vs Portugal: World Cup (2 - 1) On 30th June 2018 by proudlyYoruba(m): 8:57pm On Jun 30, 2018
Abeg how old is Ronaldo sef . Olorun o se o
Sports / Re: Uruguay Vs Portugal: World Cup (2 - 1) On 30th June 2018 by proudlyYoruba(m): 8:51pm On Jun 30, 2018
Abeg beat dem make i get rest of mind. dem ronaldo fans wan kee me since argentina lose

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Sports / Re: Nigeria Vs Iceland : World Cup (2 - 0) On 22nd June 2018 by proudlyYoruba(m): 6:00pm On Jun 22, 2018
dominique:
This Ihgalo is so sluggish, Rohr must never play him again

Full Time!
the boy just dey dull game

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Sports / Re: Nigeria Vs Iceland : World Cup (2 - 0) On 22nd June 2018 by proudlyYoruba(m): 4:28pm On Jun 22, 2018
Please don,'t disgrace me again. The world is watching , Africa dey standby

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Sports / Re: Russia Vs Saudi Arabia: World Cup - 5 - 0 (Full-Time) by proudlyYoruba(m): 5:56pm On Jun 14, 2018
5 nil how this pipu take qualify sef

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Culture / Re: Oyo Empire A Yoruba Folklore Another Myth Bursted by proudlyYoruba(m): 8:55am On Apr 15, 2018
@afonjaheadhunt. These are the odus.
The Story of Sango and the Seere
A verse from Oyeku Rete says:
…Adifafun sere ti o fe Igbadun leyin Sango Thus declared Ifa oracle to Seere that wanted to pair up with Sango.
Seere is the one that announced the arrival of Sango to the townspeople, just as the Oba’s messenger who runs before the arrival of the King, that Sango would soon be coming to help the people solve their physical and spiritual problems and afflictions, as well as pray for their material needs. After Seere’s announcement, Sango would appear and immediately solve their problems. He performed as a physician using herbs and leaves (contained in the magical Seere) as well as foreseeing and predicting the future. Almost all of the people would give them money, fine cloth and many other gifts for assisting them overcome their troubles. When Sango and Seere reached their home one day to divide their gifts, Sango said that he would take the larger share, simply because he was the doctor attending to the people, while Seere only summoned for them. Seere rejected the notion and said they were full partners so they should either share the gifts equally or they should split up. Both of them agreed to dissolve their partnership and went their separate ways. Then, whenever each of them went out to work alone, people said, “this is not the real Seere! The Seere we know announces the arrival of Sango!”. The same happened when Sango went out, people said, “the coming of the real Sango we know is always announced by Seere!”. So both starved and they didn’t receive any food, gifts, or money as recognition from the people. Unbeknownst to each other they now separately went to consult the Ifa oracle. Ifa then revealed to them that they should settle the dispute that had arisen between them so they can have progress in life. They became partners again and Seere continued to announce the arrival of Sango and contain his ewe, leaves for Ifa medicine (ewe oogun). It is for this reason that since that day Seere the gourd is always found in most shrines next to the ota of Sango.

Oriki Sango
Oríkì Sàngó
(Praising the siprit of rays and thunder)
Alaafin, ekun bu, a sa
Alaafin, King of Oyo whom growls as a leopard and makes people run far away
Eleyinju ogunna
He who’s eyes shines as lighted fire
Olukoso lalu
Olukoso, the famos in the city
A ri igba ota, según
He who uses hundreds of cartridges to scare his enemies
Eyi ti o fi alapa segun ota re
He who used pieces of broke wall parts to defeat his enemies
Kabiyesi o
We honour you
Ase

Another odu on ogun

Orunmila had sixteen chief disciples and each has an oral book dedicated to him. In the Book of Ika Meji (note the meji is in all the sixteen reflecting the binary coding), the eleventh book, a verse goes, “mo ba Oniika omo ogun (onikamogun) (onika son of ogun), o kawo (placed his hand) ifa leri, o fi aso aka (costly cloth) bora, paaka (small masqurades) meta joko ti (three pakaa sat with) Onikamogun, Onikamogun mo aka (granary) meta si ita. O so ibaaka meta (three mules) mo idi aka (granary). O pe Lakaa (person’s name) ko yanko (feed with grass), ni idi aka (granary), ibaaka (mules) ta (kick) Lakaa (person) lejika (shoulder). Lakaa-la, Akaakagbasa ati Sasioro (three young priests) lo difa fun Saabamo (cast ifa for someon called Had i known), nijo ti won beere lowo Onikamogun (on the day they asked Onikamogun), ti o fi nje oruko kaakaa wonyi? (Why he bears these strongly pronounced names) ti iya nje (his mom bears) Akaagbon, ti baba nje (dad bears) Akaagun, ti aburo nje (his young sibling bears) Akaakaagbasa, ti egbon nje (older one bears) Akaakaawo. Won ni nitori apa awon o kaye (it is because they cannot handle the world). Orunmila, afedefeyo (Orunmila who beautifies speech) je ki apa akapo kaye re (let your f

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Culture / Re: Oyo Empire A Yoruba Folklore Another Myth Bursted by proudlyYoruba(m): 8:42am On Apr 15, 2018
afonjaheadhunt:
We often read from the Yoruba media about the Oyo empire and how widespread and powerful this empire was, but no documents, finding or evidence any where in the world suggest these claims to be true only Yoruba folklore by the Yoruba revisionist elders and academicians, who have tried to rewrite their history by editing the feats of their conquerors to be That of Yorubas, but simple research or finding put all this claim to a fail test and simply portrays the Yorubas as a tribe that have been conquered since time immemorial as a matter of fact Yoruba land was split amongst to great African Kingdoms, Benin Kingdom and Dahomey kingdom this two kingdoms had their boundaries in present day south west Nigeria and shared the spoils of war within those bounds.

While every tribe in Nigeria have accounts of brutal wars with colonialist and invaders The Yorubas on their own part never confronted any of their colonialist or invaders they never challenged the Portuguese that gave Eko its name Lagos, the never confronted the British colonialists, they never challenged the Benin invaders whom became overlord in Lagos, installed a king and made Lagos a proxy of Benin kingdom, the old Oyo empire was overrun and brought to its knees by Dahomey women whom took their men as slaves, made their women maids and their children servants, The Fulani's conquered them in Illorin and installed an Emir, they Yorubas were over run by the Tiv, Nupe in Kabba and other Yoruba towns. Yorubas were simply a walk over in the history of Africa and the struggles for civilization and ethnic survival.

Yorubas claim that the Oyo empire stretches to Benin kingdom on the east and stretches to Benin republic and Togo on the west, this is one of the biggest lies ever told in the history of mankind, Africa and Nigeria as a nation. To be fair to history the reverse was actually the case. We all know that oduduwa who the Yorubas claim they are descendent from was actually a Benin prince whom went west to expand the Benin empire, the Yorubas on seeing the awe that came with the arrival and presence of Oduduwa the Benin prince pledge loyalty and support to him and rallied around him in Ile Ife which also became a Benin proxy like Lagos whom the Benins overruled. What the Yorubas refer to as Oyo empire was simply a administrative province for Benin Kingdom and Dahomey Kingdom being the center of both great empires.

On the western part it is common knowledge that the Dahomey women who from the Benin/Togo axis Present day Togo, moved and conquered eastward from the present day Togo to the present day Oyo state in south west Nigeria. Many parts of Yoruba land still speak a very corrupted version of the language of the Dahomey female warriors from Benin/Togo axis, Today you still find some Yoruba slave settlement in Benin/Togo the Yoruba slaves have been integrated in their society with coming of the white man, Slave trade and civilization. The Yorubas in Benin/Togo were slaves and spoils of war to Dahomey Kingdom, the Yorubas in Togo are ancestral descendants of Yorubas in present day south west Yoruba land in Nigeria. The relationship between the Yorubas and Benin/Togo is nothing short of a conqueror and conquered relationship or slave master relationship.

South west was divided and ruled by two great kingdoms. Benin Kingdom ruled to the west in Ile Ife axis down to Lagos, while present day Togo republic ruled to the East stretching all the way to Ibadan and Oyo present day Oyo state, Nigeria. However with the coming of the British to Nigeria Yorubas were wise to buy into the media and developed the media industry not just in Nigeria but west Africa at large and they used the media to rewrite and revisit history. However they can only deform those who are not versed to access informations as the Benin/Togo and Benin kingdom still have their very documented history which have been corroborated by the British, Portuguese, French missionaries and colonialist. Yoruba history on the other hand are simply revisions and revised history of the Benin/Togo and Benin Kingdoms history.

The fact that Yoruba history says they are descendants of Oduduwa whom they claim fell from the sky, when in truth he was actually a Benin prince on an expansionist journey, this gives credence to the fact that Yorubas have no record of their history and the one they take pride in is simply a fallacious mirage.

NOTE: This post was summarized so Nairalanders can read to the end, some accounts, excerpts, dates and events have been removed to keep it short. You can do some research to get more information or get in touch for the full context therein.

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So when I read this write up I noticed there were similarities between this write up and the one on Ihuando an edo pro Blog. The article tried so hard to discredit any Yoruba influence on Benin that it went as far as claiming Olokun (Goddess of Ocean), Ogun (God of Iron), Sango [They called it Esago (God of Thunder)] and Orunmila ( The Ifa priest) I couldn't believe my eyes I was dumbfounded these are gods people come all over the world to worship in Yoruba land. The Orunmila Baba Ifa (Ifa priest) is to the Yoruba spirituality what Jesus is to the Christians and Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) to Muslims so like this great men have the gospel and Quran so he has Odu Ifa (a book containing of life lessons) which is central to the Yoruba spirituality. (At the end of my reply I will give u few odu verses). Each of the aforementioned gods have their own odu, and guess what, the Binis worshipped these gods and Sango who is the first emperor of the Oyo empire and the Odu is in full Yoruba, this shows the influence of Yoruba spirituality on the Benin I will not dispute the presence of Benin civilisation in Lagos (Idumota - Lagos Island) and Ondo. However, what baffles me is the insistence of the Benins that they have never been influenced by Yoruba cultures, they bear our names, the aforementioned article even called 'Olu' as a benin name and also claimed 'oba' is exclusively theirs forgetting Yoruba gods has Oba as their initials, gods like Obàlùfòn and Obatala Oba ta sa. I will attach a picture of the Ife king sculpture found with the Oba. We can’t deny cultural synchronization, unless we want to create a world where culture existed without interaction. So on Dahomey u goofed, I decided to do a little research on Dahomey itself, there was no documentation of them ruling Oyo. All stories pointed to Dahomey as a tributary state to Oyo even the Britannica Encyclopædia reiterates this fact. And they are not Dahomey women, they are Dahomey amazons. They fight to death, defeat was never an option. The french suffered greatly for understimating them, they inspired the Dora milage of the Black panther. They are elite forces and imagine the elite forces sent against a crumbling Yoruba empire, Ghezo broke the tributary status of Dahomey, it is a fact cause it is widely accepted if you have other disputing other source Pls recommend

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Politics / Re: Mohammed, An Igbo-American Non Muslim, Was Atlanta Mayor by proudlyYoruba(m): 8:49pm On Apr 14, 2018
FSU:
Most AAs were from West Africa, and a good number of them have Igbo lineage. Of course there are Yoruba, Togo, Ghana, etc ancestries too.

The non west African AAs were from Gabon and Angola, Cameroon, etc.

The Hollywood actor Samuel L Jackson has traced his ancestry to Gabon.

It would be bare-faced false for any single African ethnic group to claim even 60% AA. Otherwise that group should be held responsible for committing and facilitating human slavery. After all, there is no evidence that white people came into the African hinterland to raid and capture Africans. It was Africans who raided, captured, and sold themselves to equally willing and despicable white slave co-traders waiting on their ships at the Atlantic coasts.
Yeah, u are right bruv. Nice submission
Politics / Re: Mohammed, An Igbo-American Non Muslim, Was Atlanta Mayor by proudlyYoruba(m): 8:46pm On Apr 14, 2018
@igbodedender, the article u attached is balderdash. All full of projections. The reason the Egbas resisted the name 'Yoruba' is cause it was given to the Oyo peninsular by an outside. A short summary: Yorùbá is a word the British colonizers borrowed from the Hausa to describe a group of West African people who share similarities in their language and culture. They handed the word over to the freed slaves in Sierra Leone, who returned with this idea in their heads to their homeland city Èkó. There they met influential repatriated slaves from Brazil and together with the local indigenous inhabitants, in a new sociopolitical structure shaped by the interests of the British colonizers, they made ‘Yorùbá’ to their instrument to overcome colonial oppression and formed a united, transatlantic, collective identity, a community based on plurality and tolerating the synchrony of sometimes opposing forces. Yorùbá as a self-conscious ethnic group is a rather recent phenomenon in history (Orishaimage). The quest for authenticity is a reason for conflicts among different associations, but there never was one single ‘Yorùbá’ identity. The ‘Yorùbá’ always were many. Like an onion with its different layers. Peel some layers off, or let it grow some more, it remains an onion, without losing its form, its 'identity'. In this fluid concept the core just does not matter at all. In my opinion this plurality, directly linked to polytheism, is the big advantage of Yorùbá culture. Yorùbá welcomes newly acquired concepts and is more accepting than other cultures, I think. This is also an explanation why a foreign Austrian artist was allowed to refurbish holy and ancient Orisha shrines in a very distinct and new style, which, only a few decades later, became known as a UNESCO world heritage of the Yorùbá people. The world needs more of this attitude (Orishaimage). The word 'YORUBA' was later popularized by an Egba Samuel Ajayi crowther pls get ur history right?

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Politics / Re: Mohammed, An Igbo-American Non Muslim, Was Atlanta Mayor by proudlyYoruba(m): 8:24pm On Apr 14, 2018
igbodefender:


Bros, 80% of the ancestors Afro Americans of the Americas, like US Afro Americans, Haitians Afro Brazilians, etc were Igbo. I know you might say how can that be, since you had people sold into slavery from Angola, Congo, etc.

The thing is; there were Igbo slave colonies built in these countries as sought of concentration camps for the Igbo slaves. For instance, the city of Ebo in Angola. The articles below say more ( I think 90% of the findings pass my test:

[b]We proudly maintain that 80% of the ancestors of Afro Americans of the Americas were of Igbo origin. Some came to America directly from Igbo Land. Others had to pass Igbo slave colonies in Angola, Congo, etc.

The ones that came from Bight of Benin were the Lucumis, the Igbo Aborigines of Ile Ife in today’s Yoruba Land.

Indigenous Lucumi speakers can still be found in Aniocha North, in Igbo Land today, even though the language needs to be boosted.

Source: http://afroamerican.igbodefender.com

By

Ishaq D. Al-Sulaimani
Vernon (Alufiel) Grier, Ed.D

THE GREATER IGBO NATION(IDENTIFYING IGBO VARIANTS
DURING THE ERA OF THE SLAVE TRADE)
INTRODUCTION

It is universally recognized that Igbo is the correct spelling of the tribe that currently comprises the majority of the inhabitants of south-eastern Nigeria and of whom are readily associated with the Biafran revolution, however during the time of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade the”Igbo Nation “ was divided into a number of sub-tribe variant
identities which were most commonly expressed in the Egbo,Egba Ebo and Ibo forms.

The purpose of this writing is to promote the understanding that the majority of the captives taken from Africa for enslavement in the Americas were of Igbo origins by identifying the role of the sub-tribe variants during the slave trade and their recognized status as being part of a once greater and more inclusive Igbo identity.

The majority of Igbo intellectuals continue to teach that the Igbo
variants such as the Ibo,Ebo,and Egbo are European corruptions of
the exclusively indigenous and proper Igbo.

In defense of their claim they often site the words of James Africanus Beale Horton who states that the Igbo spelling is the original of the nation,while avoiding his more detailed description concerning the indigenous usages of Ibo,Ebo and Egbo as it relates to the inhabitants of various towns and regions.

“ Egbo, Igbo, Ebo and Ibo are the various spellings met within books
describing the race that inhabits part of the coast. Amongst the soft Isuama and Elugu the soft Ibo or Ebo is used but amongst the inhabitants of the coast such as Bonny and Okrika the harsher name Egbo is prevalent. In the interior north of the territory the nations are called Igbo which appears more the original name of the inhabitants.” (HORTON 1969:154)

The altering of the name Igbo was initially implemented with the intent
of establishing independence from the “Greater Igbo entity”,while at the same time maintaining the natural ancestral link with the main and originating body.

The often hostile reaction and rejection on the part of the Igbo towards the seceding Egbo, Ebo and Ibo gradually weakened the bonds of brotherhood ultimately resulting in the emergence of such “non-Igbo” tribes as the Efik, Ibibio and Oron of Calabar,the Egba and Igbo-Mina of Yorubaland and the Ewe and Ga of Ghana and the Fongbe of Dahomey.

The altering of the letters in a name to create an independent identity
such as that of Egbo,Ebo,and Ibo which at some “ ancient “ point derived out of the original Igbo continued after the Biafran War in regards to the Iwerre people as pointed out by Professor Ben O. Nwabueze.

“ It is well to note that of the Igbo border communities in Benue State
as well as those in and around Port Hacourt now strenuously disclaim
their Igbo identity. This disclaimer is manifest in practical terms by the
latter changing their names of their villages by prefixing them with a “ R “ so that Umuokoro becomes Rumuokoro, Umuigbo becomes Rumuigbo, Umumasi becomes Rumumasi,Umukorusha becomes Rumukorosha and so on. The intention is to make them not look or sound like Igbo names.”

Throughout this presentation I will be using Igbo as an umbrella term
describing the tribe in a general sense and as a specific reference for the majority of the tribe presently inhabiting Southeastern Nigeria and of whom are readily associated with the Biafran revolution. Egbo will primarily refer to the Efik and Ibibio also known as the Cross River or Ekpe Tribes.

The term Ebo will refer to the Igbo descended Mina Tribes of Ghana and Benin(Dahomey) which include the Ewe, Fon(Fongbe) and the Ga-Adangbe. The Ebo classification will also include the Igbo descended captives of Angola, while Ibo will be applied historically to the “ Western Igbo “ and those of Mozambique.

Egba will be used to describe the largest Igbo descended tribe living in
Yorubaland (Southwest Nigeria) inhabiting the Osugun State,while Igbo-Mina will address another Igbo descended tribe living in the Kwara State of Yorubaland.

Igbos from Angola were also known as Ebo.
The city Ebo still exists in Angola. The Gullah whose name derives from Angola are an African-American community who live on the Sea Isles off of the coast of Georgia and South Carolina areas which record a majority of Angolan captives.

The Gullah are currently engaged in a strenuous battle to secure a memorial at a site called Ebo Landing. Ebo Landing was named in memory of the countless Ebo who drowned themselves in protest of their enslavement.


Similar to the Igbo of the east,the western Igbo descended Egba were
always known to be revolutionaries in continual revolt against the Colonial British authorities, European missionaries, and their traditional Yoruba enemies being primarily that of the Oyo and Ijebu. In 1929 the Igbo market woman of the east led a tax revolt against the Colonial British Government which became known as the Abia Women’s Tax Revolt. The Egba women carried out a similar tax revolt in 1947 known as the Abeokuta Women’s Tax Revolt of Egba Market Women. The Egba market women were led by Fumilayo Ransome Kuti,a teacher and wife of a prominent Egba educationalist. The protest of over 10,000 Egba women caused the governing authorities to abolish taxes on women for several years and the Alake who conspired with the Colonial authorities spent three years in exile in Oshogbo.

Many of the positive social and ethical traits which are often associated with the Igbo are historically documented as being characteristic of the Egba as well. Robert Campbell who along with Martin Robison Delaney signed a pact with Egba leaders for the right of resettlement of African – Americans to “ Egbaland” states that the Egba are the most industrious people on the face of the earth.(Burton 1863:101)

James Africanus Beale Horton concerning the Egba(Akus):
“ It must be admitted without question that there are no people on the coast who are so hard working and so long suffering in proportion to what they expect in return. “ He also went on to say that the Egba as a race are amongst the most industrious, perservering and hard working people on the coast of Africa.(Horton 1969:149)

In terms of education the Egba like the Igbo are deserving of great acclaim. The first Black-African to receive a nobel prize in Literature was an Egba man named Wole Soyinka who like the Igbo actively opposed the Nigerian Government during the Biafran War. Soyinka was detained by agents of the state between 1967 and 1969.

In this regard Booker T. Washington whose middle name Tanifeani attests to Egba origins should be noted as the founder of the famous Tuskeegee Institute.

In Brazil an organized Ibo revolt led to the establishment of the Independent “Ibo Republic” of Palmares which lasted 45 years. Being consistent with “ Igbo resistance “ Palmares ended in a massive suicide of Ibo warriors who preferred death to capture. The city Ibotirama testifies to a strong Ibo presence in the region,however as in the case of Haiti, Afro-Brazilian culture and religious practices are more readily associated with that of the “ Yoruba “(Egba) including
the worship of Legba.

Olukwumu is spoken in Brazil and interestingly enough in a few Western Ibo communities such as Anioma, Idumu-ogu,Ubulubu,Ugbodu,Ugboba and Okwumuzu.In fact communities bearing the name Olukwumu(Olukumi) still exist amongst the Western Ibo. Although this dialect cannot be found in the Yoruba heartland it remains in reference as a “ lost dialect of the Yoruba Language”. All of the above clearly indicates that many of the captives in Brazil including those who successfully revolted in the establishment of

Palmares were of western Ibo origins and like the Egba are being mistakenly classified as Yoruba. In Brazil the Western Ibo were accompanied by a massive importing of Ebos from Angola and Ibos from Mozambique,the latter further accounting for the dominant and preferable Ibo usage amongst the Brazilian captives.

In Cuba the Olukwumu were referred to as the Olukumi,Lukumi or Akumi. The Egba have traditionally resisted identification with the term Yoruba preferring to be called Egbas or Akus. Slaves in Cuba known as the Lukumi or Akumi meaning of the Egba people were well known for suicide resistance which often found them hanging from the branches of the Guasima trees. This being very similar to the “Igbo” resisters of Haiti who were likewise remembered for suicide resistance as understood in the Haitian saying; Ebos pend cor a yo
meaning the Ebos hang themselves. The relationship between the names Olukwumu and Olukumi with that of Akumi (Aku or Egba) further solidifies the common origins which link the Western Ibo and the Egba peoples.

The Egba who like the Igbo were originally known as forest dwellers are
acknowledged to have been at one time living east of their present day location.

The process which led to the vanquished links of brotherhood between the Igbo and the Egba can be characterized by the often strained relations that currently exist between some of the eastern and western Igbo communities of today.
[/b] Read the whole thing here: http://www.igbodefender.com/2018/04/14/​the-greater-igbo-nation-by-ishaq-d-al-sulaimani/#more-738
U guys should always take it easy with the figures. Igbo is just 1 out of the over 100 nations in West Africa. We haven't even discussed the other sub saharan nation. Bro, and Lukumis are Yorubas. The term ‘Yorùbá’ – and the idea of a united Yorùbá people - came into use in this period of time. Slaves usually were registered with their ‘nation’ at the arriving ports. In Brazil the Yorùbá became known as ‘Nagô’, named after a region in current day Benin Republic known to the Portuguese traders. In Cuba they were called ‘Lukumí’, as there was a region in Yorubaland no European ever visited, but was marked on old maps, known as the kingdom of ‘Ulkami, Ulcumi or Lucamee’. In Sierra Leone they were called the ‘Aku’ people, a name they got from the other creoles because of the frequent greeting ‘Ẹ kú (‘ṣẹ́). And I am not saying bullshit, I have 600 paged of Miguel Ramos in partial fulfillment of his Doctor of Philosophy. Titled Lucumí (Yoruba) Culture in Cuba: A Reevaluation (1830S -1940s).
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I just browsed through the article u attached, are u insinuating the Yorubas and Igbos are the same or what. Summarize it is too much

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Celebrities / Re: Adedotun Adekola's 5th Birthday: Odunlade Adekola Celebrates Son’s Birthday by proudlyYoruba(m): 9:37am On Apr 13, 2018
So where is the owanbe? Cause we are going to turnup like

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Politics / Re: Meet The First & Newly Appointed Awusa Prime Minister Of Iwo Emirate in Osun by proudlyYoruba(m): 2:40am On Apr 13, 2018
prolog2:
Read again, and read well this time:

Look kid, the important thing is not that the autor is foreign ! Nobody gives a fvck about the origin of the autor !!!!! All that matters are the dates in which the documents were written. To describe an event which allegedly took place at date A, you need documents written at date A.
And stop just throwing names, just post the alleged documents and point out what you are quoting in the documents. That is how it is done !
Like that the people whom you are talking to can verify by themselves if your document is authentic and if the quote actually exists.
Also, don't post documents quoting other documents, just post the original thing ! Let me check the date and the quote !


Go back read the initial questions u asked and read the answers. And don't forget to get ur glasses Methuselah wink
prolog2:
Read again, and read well this time:

Look kid, the important thing is not that the autor is foreign ! Nobody gives a fvck about the origin of the autor !!!!! All that matters are the dates in which the documents were written. To describe an event which allegedly took place at date A, you need documents written at date A.
And stop just throwing names, just post the alleged documents and point out what you are quoting in the documents. That is how it is done !
Like that the people whom you are talking to can verify by themselves if your document is authentic and if the quote actually exists.
Also, don't post documents quoting other documents, just post the original thing ! Let me check the date and the quote !


Go back read the initial questions u asked and read the answers. And don't forget to get ur glasses Methuselah
Politics / Re: Meet The First & Newly Appointed Awusa Prime Minister Of Iwo Emirate in Osun by proudlyYoruba(m): 12:15am On Apr 13, 2018
prolog2:
Look kid, the important thing is not that the autor is foreign ! Nobody gives a fvck about the origin of the autor !!!!! All that matters are the dates in which the documents were written. To describe an event which allegedly took place at date A, you need documents written at date A.
And stop just throwing names, just post the alleged documents and point out what you are quoting in the documents. That is how it is done !
Like that the people whom you are talking to can verify by themselves if your document is authentic and if the quote actually exists.
Also, don't post documents quoting other documents, just post the original thing ! Let me check the date and the quote !

Gilbert J Garraghan divides source criticism into six inquiries:
1. When was the source, written or unwritten, produced (date)?
2. Where was it produced (localization)?
3. By whom was it produced (authorship)?
4. From what pre-existing material was it produced (analysis)?
5. In what original form was it produced (integrity)?
6. What is the evidential value of its contents (credibility)?
Bernheim (1887) said The source whose account can be confirmed by reference to outside authorities in some of its parts can be trusted in its entirety if it is impossible similarly to confirm the entire text. - Hugh Clapperton issa external authority.
I gave u primary source of 1825, I gave u secondary scholarly articles of 1997 to 2008, u rejected them. I critiqued my primary source to prove his credibility, u said I was throwing names all around.
I have tried I don't give people much of my time like this but I have seen u attack people's education cause of this ur benin. Dats why I took u own bruv.
This was an important process for understanding Yorùbá culture today. Intellectual debates have followed, ethnographic, historic, linguistic, religious research. Thousands of publications are available today for people reading English, Spanish, Portuguese and Yorùbá. They include weird theories from Yorùbá being the sunken Atlantis to a lost tribe of the Egyptians. Yorùbá is the best researched African language and the culture is part of the American history, became a topic in the négritude movement and discussed among intellectual circles. The more spiritually driven discourse on the Orisha religion in the diaspora is another big issue for today’s Yorùbá identity worldwide. It spread across the world, countries, languages and skin colors and last but not least, millions of people are following the path of the Orisha! The 19th century Lagos Renaissance shaped history. Dude I am not being Yorubacentric it is just FACT. blazhykowskyi asked you a question couldn't answer it, u gave the 'i don't work for u crap' I don't for u either but I know what I am saying and brought evidence. Do me the honour and answer his questions
Politics / Re: Meet The First & Newly Appointed Awusa Prime Minister Of Iwo Emirate in Osun by proudlyYoruba(m): 10:52pm On Apr 12, 2018
prolog2:
I really need to stop replying you. Come to france and learn how to use your brain. I am not going to waste my time trying to educate you here.
To tell you the truth, I am tired of this back and forth. You are trying to debate things which are obvious to me. History is the study of historical documents. In order to claim that an event took place at date A, you need documents writen in the period of A which state that claim. (I don't even get the point where you are talking about "your lecturer". I could probably give lessons to your "lecturer".)
I know you guys are not really interested in history, you are interested in rewriting history which is why you want to quote documents recently written. You see a guy who is rewriting history can not magically write his documents in the years 1800. That is one of the reasons the date of documents is very important (it is a first test for fraudsters).
Ofcourse the fake-story peddlers will not like these kinds of restrictions eventhough that is the norm everywhere.
By the way, I wrote this: https://symboliclogiques.files./2016/03/thc3a9orie-formelle-des-catc3a9gories.pdf
I shouldn't have to show what I do, but when talking with juveniles who won't listen to reason, what else can one do ?
Just accept the fact that right now, you are just too dumb to talk to me. Period. Get educated and then look at the subject with an open mind, not a yorubacentric mind !

You kept hurling insults all around, that's a sign of a juvenile. And you made mention of a Yorubacentric mind, dude shed away your edocentric mind. My sources provided eyewitnesses account of Bain Hugh Clapperton who was a Scottish naval officer and explorer of West and Central Africa who died in Sokoto, an acquaintance of Muhammad Bello, Usman Dan Fodio and Sheik Al Kanemi the Emir of Borno. Tell me a better foreign and independent eyewitness than a man who accompanied Walter Oudney, a Consul appointed by the Colonial Secretary on his exploration of Africa. Just get 'Hugh Clapperton into the Interior of Africa. Records of the Second Expedition 1825-1827, with Jamie Bruck Lockhart'
2) As per Abogunde of Ede, I will attach the picture of one of his art work. Dated around 1801 - 1850 (Historians uncertain of date but are sure it is in the 19th century). Some of his work are in the Art Institute of Chicago
3) As per the analysis of the oro ise 'ba' - head/rule when you see a Nigerian that speaks YORUBA ask him

Politics / Re: Meet The First & Newly Appointed Awusa Prime Minister Of Iwo Emirate in Osun by proudlyYoruba(m): 9:38pm On Apr 12, 2018
prolog2:
I really need to stop replying you. Come to france and learn how to use your brain. I am not going to waste my time trying to educate you here.
To tell you the truth, I am tired of this back and forth. You are trying to debate things which are obvious to me. History is the study of historical documents. In order to claim that an event took place at date A, you need documents writen in the period of A which state that claim. (I don't even get the point where you are talking about "your lecturer". I could probably give lessons to your "lecturer".)
I know you guys are not really interested in history, you are interested in rewriting history which is why you want to quote documents recently written. You see a guy who is rewriting history can not magically write his documents in the years 1800. That is one of the reasons the date of documents is very important (it is a first test for fraudsters).
Ofcourse the fake-story peddlers will not like these kinds of restrictions eventhough that is the norm everywhere.
By the way, I wrote this: https://symboliclogiques.files./2016/03/thc3a9orie-formelle-des-catc3a9gories.pdf
I shouldn't have to show what I do, but when talking with juveniles who won't listen to reason, what else can one do ?
Just accept the fact that right now, you are just too dumb to talk to me. Period. Get educated and then look at the subject with an open mind, not a yorubacentric mind !

Ok, great. I goofed. Can you now answer the questions u were asked?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Cutting the hand of the thief is suspended in a Famine by proudlyYoruba(m): 8:19am On Apr 12, 2018
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Islam for Muslims / Cutting the hand of the thief is suspended in a Famine by proudlyYoruba(m): 8:16am On Apr 12, 2018
Assalaamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullah Wa Barakaatuhu our respected Sheikh, may Allah increase your knowledge and virtue,
I would like to ask and am confident in your virtue to be able to respond,
We have learnt that ‘Umar Ibn Al-Khattaab (ra) did not cut the hand of the thief in the year of the famine. So was the suspension of this Hukm in this circumstance only due to an ‘Illah (Sharee’ah reasoning) that had ceased to be and the Hukm of cutting ceased to exist along with it?? And if that is the case then what is the ‘Illah for the Hukm of cutting? And do the ‘Uqubaat (punishments) have ‘Ilal (legal reasonings), in origin, which they revolve around?
Barakallahu Feek
Answer
Wa Alaikum Assalam wa Rahmatullah wa Barakataahu,
1. In regards to what ‘Umar (ra) did, he applied the Hukm Ash-Shar’i as it has been found in Islam. This means that the application of the Hukm was not suspended. Rather he applied it as it must be done. That is because there are circumstances in which it is not permitted to cut the hand which include the circumstance of the famine, and so it is not permissible to cut the hand in it.
2. Consequently, the non-implementation of the Hudood in the year of the drought (i.e. year of the famine) reverts to the Hukm Ash-Shar’i related to the non-application of the Hadd (prescribed punishment) for theft in the year of the famine… That is because that represents the Hukm Ash-Shar’i in this situation or circumstance.
3. As for your question about the ‘Ilal (legal reasoning) in relation to the ‘Uqubaat (punishments), then yes, it is possible for them to include ‘Ilal and for Qiyaas to occur in respect to them… However, the ‘Uqubaat include within them the meaning of the ‘Uqubah (punishment) and the meaning of the Haddiyah. As for the meaning of the Haddiyah which refers to the quantifying of the Hadd (set prescribed punishment) and its kind, then this is not reasoned (i.e. it does not have an ‘Illah). Consequently, the Hadd is not increased upon or decreased whether this was in respect to the quantifying of the Hadd (Miqdaar) or in the number (‘Adad) of the Hudood, as these are restricted within the Shar’iyah evidences. As for the meaning of the ‘Uqubah (punishment) in respect to the Hadd, then what applies upon the ‘Uqubaat (punishments) applies to it in terms of the ‘Illah and Qiyaas (analogy)
Webmasters / Re: Cambridge Analytica Shared My Own Data Too, Zuckerberg Says by proudlyYoruba(m): 7:29am On Apr 12, 2018
Social media has been one of the platform world powers especially US used in their oppression of the third world. They influence our election, choose our leader and they make and mar our economy. They should enjoy the blowback of their imperialistic project
Politics / Re: Meet The First & Newly Appointed Awusa Prime Minister Of Iwo Emirate in Osun by proudlyYoruba(m): 12:07am On Apr 12, 2018
prolog2:
What a load of crap. Most of what you wrote didn't come with a source and the only few sources you had were from the 1990's.
This must be a joke, I am laughing. You yoruba really believe that you can just make up your "history". Well, it doesn't work like that, the aim of history is to discover the past, not to make up a fictional past. I really don't know how to say it so that you understand: you are too dumb to actually have a conversation with me. Imagine kids in kindergarten trying to debate you. that is exactly what is happening with you trying to debate me. I see each flaws in your reasoning and I feel very insulted that such a poor mind thinks he can actually debate me.
At least, go and educate yourself for at least 7 years and then come back and debate me. Right now you don't have what it takes.
In a logical debate claims do not matter, what matters are the proof. You give absolutely no proof. It is just claim after claim and then you call your claims education ! Basically, you are preaching your dogma and confusing it with science. Not adhering to your dogma is seen as being uneducated by your narrow mind.
Just do yourself a favour and go and learn how to think. Given your lack of intelligence, it will take at leats 7 years.
One question though: why do yoruba always think the aim in a debate is to impose their vue ? To me, the aim in a debate is to get to the truth weither you are wrong or right. If all you are after is imposing your point then trying to dupe the percieved enemy is the next step. And this is why you and your fellow yoruba always engage in 419 tactics while in debates.
You have to approach debates in the same way as Gallileo. The opponent is more of a coworker than an actual ennemy. The aim is to get to the absolute truth and you are both working towards that aim.


The logic u were trying to use is 'Since it's history the materials should be like 1885, LMAO'. RESEARCH DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT. Research is an original contribution to the existing stock of knowledge making for its advancement. , the research attitude presumes that the first look and every later look may be prone to error so we must look again and again differently and thoroughly each time. Research also minimizes the role of chance in knowledge acquisition and scientific investigation. I was opportuned to participate in a capstone research project for my lecturer, he threw my papers away. He said 'What sorta dates are these? I won't take this from you, I want 2000 dates not 90s'.Do you know why cause researches have literature review, this chapter has to do with reviewing all existing and relevant works that have been done by other scholars in that particular field of study and it entails a detailed critique of such works, indicating their strengths and weaknesses. The literature review is usually written as summaries indicating the sources i.e. the names of the authors, titles of books/journals, titles of articles, publishers, year of publication, page number etc. So Sir Masters, If I had the opportunity I will cite 2018 materials cause knowledge ain't static it grows everyday. That is for the authenticity of the material u were trying to discredit.
For ur second opinion it is an assertion. An opinion is just like an asshole everyone has one. Cam u answer the questions blachy... asked. Can u do us the favour of replying him. And bro, which University awarded you Msc? Kinda curious

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Culture / Re: Before Osun Becomes Second Yoruba Settlement To Discriminate Its Christain Side by proudlyYoruba(m): 11:24pm On Apr 11, 2018
resurgentxtian4:
I usually attack igbos when they mock Yorubas but on this one, they are justified.

The act of the oba of iwo just busted the myth of religious harmony in yorubaland. The Muslims have just begun a journey to destroy whatever peace we have managed to keep in yorubaland.
Someone said u are bipolar. I just agreed

Culture / Re: Where Do Yorubas Fit In The Middle East? by proudlyYoruba(m): 11:15pm On Apr 11, 2018
Okoyeebos:


Actually, Igbos aren't Jews of anywhere. The lies told by generations of Igbos suffering from inferiority complex were busted when a team of scientists from Israel conducted DNA tests of Igbos and stated that they had no genetic links to the Jews.

That being clear, I can boldly say Igbos didn't originate from anywhere. They evolved from monkeys and are the subject of Charles Darwin's evolution theory.

That is the only logical reason why no one has been able to trace their history and ancestry.

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Politics / Re: Why Is Sullivan Chime Lying Against Enugu State Government? - Steve Nweke by proudlyYoruba(m): 9:18am On Apr 11, 2018
Thought Chime Sullivan was a good leader. Me think sey na hin transform 042

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Politics / Re: Meet The First & Newly Appointed Awusa Prime Minister Of Iwo Emirate in Osun by proudlyYoruba(m): 8:27am On Apr 11, 2018
prolog2:
When were your great-great grand parents brought back to africa by the british once they were freed from slavery ?
When exactly did the freed slaves and their descendents decide to call themselves yoruba ?
When did they decide to start making up their "history" ?

Seeing ur comment makes me feel more intelligent. Ur came here telling us about ur credential and some made up jumbo. You were asked to prove, u started bringing out some 'I don't work for u crap'. Bro I am an undergraduate but I no fit argue like you. Answers to ur question
1) Statistics pointed to two important trends. Around 1807 when the British abolished the trade. The presence of the british naval on the African coast did not halt slave trade since other powers are still engaged in it. The slave trade did not finally end until with the abolition of slavery in America beginning with the British colonies 1834 ; French Colonies 1848 : US America 1865 Brazil and Cuba; 1888
2)As an ethnic description, the word "Yoruba" was first recorded in reference to the Oyo Empire in a treatise written by the 16th century Songhai scholar Ahmed Baba . It was popularized by Hausa usage and ethnography written in Arabic and Ajami during the 19th century, in origin referring to the Oyo exclusively. (Maureen Warner-Lewis (1997). Trinidad Yoruba: From Mother Tongue to Memory . University of the West Indies. p. 20. ISBN 978-976-640-054-5)
The extension of the term to all speakers of dialects related to the language of the Oyo (in modern terminology North-West Yoruba) dates to the second half of the 19th century. It is due to the influence of Samuel Ajayi Crowther , the first Anglican bishop in Nigeria. Crowther was himself a Yoruba and compiled the first Yoruba dictionary as well as introducing a standard for Yoruba orthography. We have different names Omo Oodua, Omo Karo Ojire, Omolúwàbí, Awa Abínibí. Before u start ramnling, Korea was giving to that peninsula by the British, anybody who watches Korea movies will know Koreans call their country 'hanguk'
3) numerous veranda posts were reported to have been used as architectural accompaniment
in the Old Oyo palace. R. W. Keay reported to have seen seven or eight of the veranda posts which have been
miraculously saved from fire in the attack of the Old Oyo (Adepegba, 2007:18), while one hundred brass posts
formally used in the verandas were reported by Clapperton to have been looted by Fulani army (Fadipe,
2012:41-42). Clapperton also reported to have seen wood carving veranda posts. They were expressed in
military themes (Kalilu, 1995:125-142). The contents of the work include: procession of warriors and drummers
as well as animals. The flock of artists into the town is also instructive of the abundant art commissions on
ground for take. Are Lagbayi ara Ojunwon, an eighteen century wood carver was one of the numerous artist
who practiced wood carving in Oyo. He was the progenitor of Abogunde wood carver lineage in Oyo
(Abimbola 1990, Adepegba 1995:48, Adepegba 2007:23). Some of them practice their art in Ogbomoso, Iwo
and Ede.
Sir which of our history is made up. These sre foreign attestation to a military might and country rich in art and craft.
I'm sure this particular point has been covered by some topics on Nairaland. While Yoruba has meaning for Oba, Benin find it difficult to explain what the word means in their language.
Now for the purpose of enlightenment, I will educate you and your likes some Yoruba language structure. See the word "Ba" is very significant in Yoruba language, and it means reign over or oversee something. Examples include
Baale: (the "le" sound is like in let), the expansion of the word is Ba (reigns over) and Ile (the land). So the word Baale means someone that reigns over a land or someone that oversee things on a particular land or area. This title is used for leader of a small communities or villages in Yorubaland
Bale: (the "le" sound is like in lay), the expansion of the word is Ba (reigns over) and ile (the house). So the word Bale means someone that reigns over a house or someone that oversee things in a house. This title is used for husband as they are the head of a house in Yoruba tradition
Oba: the word Oba is a shorten form of eni to ba le gbogbo. Logically, it is sensible to use Oba instead of eni to ba le gbogbo. The break down of the expression eni to ba le gbogbo is eni (someone), to ba (reigns over) and le gbogbo (everything). Hence Oba (eni to ba le gbogbo) means someone that reigns over everything whether it is land, house, river or any goddamn thing. (#copied)

So now answer your question Mr. Masters. With knowledge dispensers like u, Nigeria is bound yo doom.

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Politics / Re: Obafemi Awolowo’s Mercedes Benz Used For His Presidential Campaigns by proudlyYoruba(m): 7:06am On Apr 11, 2018
PrecisionFx:



Nope, he wasn't a leader. He was follower grin.
Na true u talk o my brother. Shekau and Kanu sef are eminent leaders in Nigeria

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Culture / Re: Where Do Yorubas Fit In The Middle East? by proudlyYoruba(m): 11:17pm On Apr 10, 2018
omohayek:

All that “Oduduwa came from Mecca” crap is just the product of a few sick minds who allowed preachers of a foreign religion to inculcate in them an inferiority complex. The city of Ile Ife already existed when Mohammed was supposedly receiving his visions, and the best linguistic evidence suggests Yoruba and Igala had become separate languages as much as 1,000 years before Islam was even founded, so Yoruba civilisation owes nothing to Mecca or anywhere else in the Middle East.

As far as Oduduwa in particular is concerned, serious modern scholarship indicates he actually existed, but the Ife he came to was already a flourishing and wealthy city (not a mere “village”) by the time Oduduwa got there, with Obatala being the ruler until Oduduwa finally managed to overthrow him sometime later. There is zero serious evidence that Oduduwa wasn’t himself a native-born Yoruba by culture, just that he didn’t come from Ife, which was not the only Yoruba city even then. What does seem true is that Oduduwa inaugurated a new kind of kingship, and that this spread through much of Yorubaland and beyond through his descendants.
In support of ur claim sire. A skull was discovered in Iwo eleru, the skull is said to be dated to as back as 13,000 years ago.
The skull, found in the Iwo Eleru cave in Nigeria in 1965, does not look like a modern human.
It is longer and flatter with a strong brow ridge; features closer to a much older skull from Tanzania, thought to be around 140,000 years old. The human skull was not the only thing excavated, The Excavations resulted in 2-3 m deep finds of microlithic stone materials of more than half a million late stone age artefacts with a series of hydrocarbon dates ranging from 1515 BC to 9250 BC
Politics / Re: Meet The First & Newly Appointed Awusa Prime Minister Of Iwo Emirate in Osun by proudlyYoruba(m): 10:58pm On Apr 10, 2018
prolog2:
You are one funny fellow.
Let me break it down for you: I do not work for you !
What in your sick brain makes you thing you can just throw all these claims at me and expect me to respond to all of them at once as if I were a robot working for you ?
Do u have answers to them? If not keep quiet. Masters my foot

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Politics / Re: Obafemi Awolowo’s Mercedes Benz Used For His Presidential Campaigns by proudlyYoruba(m): 10:36pm On Apr 10, 2018
PrecisionFx:



And who said leaders don't run away? Did u read that in Afonjanistani constitution

Didn't Bin Laden run away? grin

Didn't Ghaddafi run away? grin.

Didn't Ghadaffi run away grin.

We told ojukwu to leave for ivory coast because we are smart people. And it worked out perfectly for us and we have never complained.

One thing Yorubas fail to understand is that we don't blame Ojukwu for everything that happened to us before, during and after the civil war. We know he stepped in to protect us and we also know that if his life will grant us freedom from this Shiithole, He will gladly give his life.

The real question is - WHY ARE YORUBA PEOPLE MASTURBATING ON THIS ISSUE.
Bin Laden issa leader? Well sha he is looto

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Events / Re: IPOB Member Weds His Bride In A Jewish Way In Anambra. Photos by proudlyYoruba(m): 1:05pm On Apr 10, 2018
unknownsolja:


bloody bastard idiot quoting a dwarf in a movie..so the ethopians jews are what?you are still a kid..quit watching movies..dummy
Is quote I quote o

Events / Re: IPOB Member Weds His Bride In A Jewish Way In Anambra. Photos by proudlyYoruba(m): 12:55pm On Apr 10, 2018
schurley:
I think its hightime we erase the myth about the Igbo connection to Jew origin .History always have a funny way of linking people of different language, culture and heritage with each other, but however if you understand History you will get to know that the origin of most Afrian race is shrouded in antiquity, thus the slightest materialistic evidence, and similiarity in culture common to two tribes or ethnic may be used by some Historians in deciding connections of different people, tribe and as to where they origininated from.


Several historian have traced the History of the igbo to Israel, Japan among others,country in Asian. Same thing was recorded of the Yoruba peolpe.Notable Historian like Toyin Falola ,Samuel Johnson acclaimed in their text that the Yoruba originated from Mecca and Egypt and through migration came all the way to iIle-Ife to reside.


The same way the people Jukun, Igala, Ijaw, Irobo,Tiv among others have stories of their origin traced to the Middle east ,some part in Asia continent and the world at large .


But the truth be told, till date so many tribe and ethnic group in Nigeria and Africa at large still find it difficult tracing their origin, thus the unnecessary claim to certain sect of individual.


As regard the igbo origin, Archaeological evidence has immensely contributed to the reconstruction of their history and shed more light on their past. The discovery of the Nok art and other cultural materials by Archaeologist in Enugu and other Eastern region has however revealed to us that the igbos have been in their present geographical location right from 1500BC ,thus discarding various migrational origin theory by some Historians as regard to the igbo origin.
I once bought the Makkan and Egypt crap until I read about the archeological discovery of skull in the South West, Iwo Eleru. The skull dates as back as 15,000 years ago, does not look like a modern human.
It is longer and flatter with a strong brow ridge; features closer to a much older skull from Tanzania, thought to be around 140,000 years old. Africans need to be taught history so that they can have self confidence
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14947363

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Events / Re: IPOB Member Weds His Bride In A Jewish Way In Anambra. Photos by proudlyYoruba(m): 12:49pm On Apr 10, 2018
unknownsolja:


look at this little child born today talking poo.what do you know about history
Let me give you some advice, bastard. Never forget what you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor, and it can never be used to hurt you.” — Tyrion Lannister (GAME OF THRONES)
Events / Re: IPOB Member Weds His Bride In A Jewish Way In Anambra. Photos by proudlyYoruba(m): 12:45pm On Apr 10, 2018
ApexPredator:


Judaism is a religion no different than Islam or Christianity. Igbos were practicing Judaism before Christianity. Only in your colonized state of mind is it alright for Igbo people to practice European ROMAN catholic christianity but not "Judaism" that was the first Abrahamic religion in West Africa.
Bro, we know it's not because judaism is a religion. The reason he did the wedding was because someone told him he is a jew - God's chosen that are the greatest of humans God ever created. Be sincere to yourself. I just dislike judaism and jews, the religion is racist not the adherent I mean the religion itself. Fvck, Christianity and Islam were not racist even though few Arabs and Europeans who are adherent of this religion are. His wife better be careful cause Judaism description of women is not flattering at all

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