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BankyGee:
RIDDLE ME THIS


I am number three;
But I am not a number.
I am hot and cold at the same moment, but not at the same time.

What am I?

Vic2Ree:
Sony (Sony Pictures) is ripe to be purchased by a bigger player. They may be content being arms dealers, but they don't have the finances or IP to scale and compete with the big boys. That's a fact. I'm not saying they can't be successful (profitable) and make great content, they just aren't major players in the new media landscape.

Lmao..you see this is exactly what I was arguing with the other dude about...you have finally come out and said the same thing he did

Please can you tell me maybe 4 or 5 of these "big boys" that you think Sony can't compete with?

IAmSabrina:
When I say I don't know where they'll be, I mean they could be back in financial trouble. Of course, it's "possible" that Disney could be also, but, given their well known and well liked (not to mention "large" franchises, it's much less likely. Sony's line up could make (or lose) them a lot of money. In other words, things are more stable at Disney and their medium and long term prospects appear to be much brighter. No one can tell the future for sure, but we can make educated guesses based on what we see today.

If me saying I don't know how Sony will be doing in the next few years seems "ridiculous and myopic" to you, you're certainly entitled to that opinion.

Minemrys:
abi

Theenchanter2:
where's d riddle, oga?

Chill

Minemrys:
h0nestly, i really can't pin point. Am yet to see the 2nd trailer that dropped but i'd say it'll do past antman and the wasp and may do suicide squad numbers if the film is good. And if it has unique elements that attract cinema goers plus the you kn0w thing we males are attractd to, which i doubt then it'll do Wonder woman box office numbers. But i'd predict 670mill.

Sunkyphil:
its now boring

Vic2Ree:
On absolute terms however, Sony's slate is just fine. That's how I understand it

Raalsalghul:
I'm more inclined towards Minemrys; he was the one who rightly predicted Joker would gross over 1 billion dollars.

TheKingIsHere:
You can follow buhari to UK on his next trip

Lmao so you hate me like this?

Vic2Ree:
LoL. Bruh I don't think anybody here is dissing Sony's slate. Sabrina and the others are just trying to state that relative to Disney, Sony's film slate is not as exciting. On absolute terms however, Sony's slate is just fine. That's how I understand it

IAmSabrina:
OK. This is awkward but I think the majority of his post was directed towards Xavier. He only really mentioned you in an (inconsequential) first sentence.

IAmSabrina:
No, pupl3. I don't know where Sony will be in the next 2-3 years. They may do quite well and they may not. You speak of these as if they are all sure fire hits and I don't think that's the case. Spiderverse was very well received, but, from a box office perspective, it wasn't a smash hit. It was easily out grossed by Ant-Man (AM cost about 40M more and brought in about 150M more); which is one of Marvels lowest grossing movies. I fully expect the sequel to do better at the box office, but let's not pretend this is a sure fire mega hit. Ditto for Hotel Transylvania. It could do quite well, but maybe not.

I am saying that Disney has a lot more arrows in their quiver than does Sony pictures. When you compare the upcoming Sony slate to Star Wars, Marvel, Pixar, it's just not in the same league.

I don't say this because I get a kick out of it and I'm certainly not trying to spin anything. I'm looking at this as objectively as I can and firmly believe Sony would love to trade places with Disney.

FFS, pupl3, stop being obtuse about this. Sony's slate is mediocre when compared to Disney. That's the argument. At least it's MY argument.

TheKingIsHere:
Black mask with class...really love this suit

TheKingIsHere:
Some news outlets are saying its likely to premiere in the UK first, this January.

I guess WB discovered the UK loved R-rated movie like Joker, hence they decide to do so.

I just hope they plan to get a china release too

If it's going to be released in China I think it will be on or after the original release date...that would be really good for business

Really I wish I was living in the UK so that il go see it this month

TheKingIsHere:
Mine was removed as it got leaked before they officially released it.

For all those crying about comic book accuracy, we see canary with her cry, huntress with her bow and mask, and black mask with his black mask

I was never in doubt

I'm really anticipating this movie..the fever but me late I must admit but it hit me and I can't wait for February

Raalsalghul:
Minemrys the B.O analyst, how much do you see this one raking in?

Sunkyphil:
WWE is now wack,i hardly watch it now

TheKingIsHere:
The final trailer of the Birds of prey is out.

You can see black mask with his mask and Black canary with her canary cry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg9klkQ73nA

I can't find the video anywhere bruh


Modified: I've found it and it's dope ...she said she named her hyena Bruce after that hunky Wayne guy

IAmSabrina:
LOL. Talk about hitting the nail on the goddamn head!

So, let's all agree. Having a movie that grosses 1B doesn't necessarily translate to having a higher net revenue than a movie that grosses less. We all understand income and expenses and, from what I've read, no one actually said that. Setting up a straw man and then knocking him down is a known technique.

Star Wars "has" made Disney well over a billion dollars. When I say that, I mean the franchise and not a single movie. Ditto for Pixar. The Joker, like Deadpool, was a breakout hit. Both were done on a low budget and made a LOT of money. When I say Disney is situated better than Sony, I point to established franchises and divisions that other movie studios can only dream about. While making movies of this sort can be expensive, they are pretty much guaranteed to make money. Movies with less public recognition or less popularity are much more likely to bomb. When they hit, they make a lot of money. When they bomb, they lose. There's just a lot more variability and less reliability with lesser known or less popular franchises.

Cc. AfricaGalactic, Xavier5, 1000WaysToLive, Themandalorian, pu7pl3

1000WaysToLive:
I was already planning to put you and pupl3 on ignore but I still can see your posts when I log out and you're intentionally misrepresenting my argument here.


While I will no longer respond to either of you, I need to clarify that I never really made the argument that Sony wasn’t successful because of a lack of billion dollar movies.


The whole point of me mentioning Disney live-action and Pixar movies reaching a billion dollars was to illustrate how much more successful Disney is in comparison to Sony, as well as illustrate just how much Sony are intrinsically at a disadvantage when it comes to reliably big successful IP.


They really don’t have much on their plate in the arena. Why is Disney the most successful movie studio for so many years now? ==> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/lists/studio-by-studio-profitability-ranking-disney-surges-sony-sputters-977497

See the attached image or view the link itself.

The answer lies in them having the most biggest IP at their disposal that consistently deliver great results.

You are using my initial post to try and make a bigger point about profit vs box office like anybody here doesn’t have a basic understanding of how box office works.

SMH

Tagging me to this post automatically makes me respond even tho it has nothing to do with the previous arguement (and even the old site you dropped clearly shows how Sony had things going for them as far back as 2016).....I fail to see how that helps your narrative .a narrative that is absolutely wrong btw

Also I called you a good sport earlier..I take that back

IAmSabrina:
Yeah. I think everyone (well, "almost" everyone) understands the relative situations of Disney and Sony. It's not that Sony has tanked over the last couple of years, but if anyone thinks they are as well situated as Disney, they are deluding themselves. My point is that we just don't know where Sony will be in 2 or 3 years. They may be fine and they may not be. Where Disney will be in 2 or 3 years is a much safer bet. Could the new Ghostbusters hit? Sure, but Pixar, Marvel, etc. are pretty much sure things. Will Marvel crush it out of the park like they did with Avengers? Probably not, but I don't see them putting out something that tanks like Justice League or Charlie's Angels. Could a new Marvel movie under perform at the box office? Sure, but, long term, I think they are going to be okay.

You don't know where Sony will be in 2 or 3 years..really? these narratives y'all are trying to spin I don't even get the angle or the kick y'all are trying to get out of it

Minemrys:
ehen. That's what am saying. Whether we d0n't like the suit, the reas0n for it l0oking like that, is reas0nable. Dude's n0t that well to do, has limited skills in design, to top it; the suit is made up of parts he stole fr0m nasa and fixed together. U d0n't expect it to be perfect. As for that flashpoint thingy, am nervous of them going into the 1st film with the time travel thingy. We atleast need to be introduced to Allen's life and shortc0ming than just puffing into s0me timey whiny. Flash is much m0re than time travel. When u begin a film like that on an epic level, then u raise the bar to0 much for a sequel. WB better n0t be rushing into these things cos that's what ruined the show.

But you were the one calling for a flashpoint movie to reset the DCEU

Minemrys:
lol, try making one yourself to see how 'good' it looks. Or u would prefer him to wear rubber?

hulk616:
that guy yesterday that sat down and started thinking about his future

I swear the guy just decided to take his time before standing up

FergieRaww:
Rodrygo Turns 19

hulk616:
in attack only.

They hardly dribble past mendy

Raalsalghul:
And I came running thinking it was MoS2

Xavier5:
I wanted to say this is bad news but when I saw "A different version of Flashpoint", I calmed down. It's not gonna be flashpoint but something similar to it but of course it should also be an origin story, you can't bring flash into the dceu in his solo movie without telling or showing us his origin (dceu's version), they did that with Superman, wonder woman and Aquaman, Shazam even after we know their origin most especially Superman, Flash case shouldn't be an exception. This could be the way they want to softly reboot the dceu although I prefer the retcooning pattern. Just retcoon BvS, Justice League and Suicide Squad to other realities (Dimensions, multiverse, timelines) while MOS, WW, Shazam, Aquaman continue in the main dceu's canon. But anyway, anything that works should be applied. Tick Tock.

And one more thing, they should change flash suit in Justice League, it's terrible, annoying and creepy.

#Xavier.
#Proudly_A_DCian.

Ive not even really thought deep into this news..I just want a good flash movie..I don't care about the retaining/rebooting

I didn't like that flash suit either

Blackspider:
I don't believe heroic Hollywood and as someone pointed out, flashpoint for the first movie is a bad idea. I don't even think it should be adapted

1000WaysToLive:
By the way, I'm also an investor in Netflix

Good for you mayne

Not Sony though.

So what's your excuse, your desire to ride posters' dick in here that is?

(I don't need to give you the benefit of the doubt, I've seen a couple posts on this thread that have already commented on this effective technique)

you don't need me to but I still do soo ....

You said, "The Witcher is the biggest TV show in the world right now mate stop arguing"

Well, you got me 'bro', until possibly next week. Checkmate. I guess Mando had it's day. I should check the stats daily before making such claims, it shouldn't be hard as I do it with my stocks after all. This is what I get for living in the past

I don't think anything will happen next week tho but that remains to be seen...

Good sport