airmark: Did i tell you that? There's a reason i posted a youtube link since you didn't watch 90% of Liverpool matches to have an informed opinion.
Numbers in football may be deceiving. But when you watch matches you see everything in details . Thats how Chelsea stupidly bought Morata because of deceptive numbers, that some of us were against because we watched his games for Madrid.
If VVD is replaceable, then Mane is easily replaceable.
Have you seen Mane's YouTube videos? And what makes you think I didn't watch up to 90% of Liverpool matches? That's just funny
And talking about eye test there is nothing overly impressive about VVD when you watch him...he even gives off the impression that he runs from attackers so as to avoid getting dribbles when you watch him
airmark: If you are not leading your team well defensively, you shouldn't be put among the best 3 players in the world.
Ramos is a great defender but he never had a season that beat VVD's last season. That's a fact, Madrid were lucky to have attackers that scored over 100 goals to mask the leaky defence led by Ramos that year in Laliga.
In that season, Godin led his team to win the league, conceding fewest in the league. He was so good that he was the laliga player of the month twice, consecutively. A feat Pique and Ramos never achieved, but they would hand them the defender of the year, because they were Spaniards. Nonsense.
in your bid to defend VVD'S obviously lucky success you are shifting on someone VVD himself looks up to by saying that travesty is a fact...that's not a fact the fact here is that even Ramos' world cup win year was far better than anything VVD would ever dream of,I gave you another instance which was the 13/14 season and Ramos isn't even the only defender that has done more than VVD has but didn't get this same hype..il let this one slide but don't ever make up facts like that again please
And that season Ramos also had better numbers than Godin..the real competition he had was from Miranda and Felipe as you can see from the screenshot...
TLona1: In 2015, Pique faced EPL champions (Man City) in the RO16 and stopped Aguero. He faced Ligue 1 Champions (PSG) in the Q/Fs and stopped Cavani, he faced Bundesliga champions (Bayern) in the S/Fs and stopped Lewandowski and later faced Italian Champions (Juventus) in the final and stopped Tevez.
But he didn't get all the hype VVD is getting now.
The hype of VVD is too much. You guys should tone it down
TLona1: I think it's because of the amount Liverpool bought him - 75 million. Plus Liverpool's great performances and form.
If Manchester United was doing extremely well, Maguire would have also gotten some extreme hype too.
Jodera: I feel why he was hyped was because of the immediate impact he had on the Liverpool defence. Liverpool b4 VVD concedes goal left right and center, even tho Mane and salah was scoring. When vvd arrived, the amount of goals conceded per game reduced drastically. So if you're a Liverpool fan, you'll really feel the improvement. He carried the form over to last season too, and added the record of a defender not beaten/dribbled past for the highest minutes throughout a season, both domestically and in Europe. He improved others alongside him in defence(Gomez improved wen playing alongside him, and even matip whom most pool fans tag as flop improved significantly wen playing alongside him too). With all these stats and details, you could feel the hype. That's why he was in contention for the balon dor above mane... Maybe from next season, wen d hype is down, mane will be duly recognized, but for now, as you said, na really VVD luck.
Minemrys: yea, i kn0w of that part. It's only logical they do. But i have a feeling this role would either make or mar yahaya's career. I pray he pulls it off.
I hope so too but I don't think it would have that much impact..I mean the role on his career
Minemrys: excellent. [in Jurgen Klopp's voice] You're right 100 percent. But, did Angela kn0w all this while that Cal was Manhattan? I mean, in the 2nd epis0de, she had the expressi0n that it was impossible for manhattan to bec0me human, and in the recent epis0de, she actd like that chinese lady was nuts telling her that manhattan was in tulsa. Only for Angel to return h0me like she knew ever since. It's c0nfusing.
That's a testament to how good she is at hiding her and her husband's identity to protect their family
airmark: Yes and No. VVD stopped Lewandowski from scoring his biggest chance in Munich.
Because you didn't watch 90% of Liverpool matches last season.
You're right.
Lmao so you are trying to say he got 2nd place and outplayed Mane cos of that one tackle
Watching the matches don't mean anything when all the numbers are there for you to see,Mane was more pivotal to Liverpool's success than VVD..another decent defender would have easily slotted in that system if he wasn't there but you will find it extremely hard to replace Mane's numbers and contribution...I hope you get what I mean
airmark: He stopped the hottest striker in Lewandowski and went ahead to score a crucial goal to knock a great contender in Bayern out. Not to talk of stopping Harry Kane and Son from scoring in crucial moments in the final of ucl.
He was the most influencial liverpool player by miles.
Stopping Lewandowski and those others was a team effort bruh..do you want to tell me he single handedly did it as the only man in defence Mane kept on scoring crucial goals left and right and was highly influential in Senegal's run to the afcon finals
And VVD wasn't the most influential just the most hyped and I don't know why...you didn't see Ramos being hyped like this even when he had far better numbers during our la decima run
If Mane was European or south American I'm very sure he would have been on that podium just like Modric was
Minemrys: of all the series i've seen, i didn't see that twist c0ming. I didn't.
Bruuuuuuuh...despite the kinda slow pace to this episode I think it's one of the best episodes so far cos of the suspense and reveals...not just 1 or 2 reveals bruh I could count about 5 reveals and I'm sure there are more if I watch it again
Sultan5: Didn't I just say I think you were right? And my elaboration on said issue was only necessary because you prompted it.
Not going to even bother defending your opinion on me being a MCU fan only. Believe what you want bro life is free. I have said my peace on that regard.
You will not defend it cos there is nothing to defend...
Your elaboration was unnecessary and futile and I'm only stretching this issue further so you can acknowledge how unnecessary it was
Miremoses1: nothing for me bro. Mane for me was the best player in epl last season, he had an amazing year with Liverpool. I think not winning the Afcon affected his chances of making the top 2.
VVD also failed to win the uefa nations League when he reached the finals too...mane should be the person taking all these accolades for Liverpool not VVD IMO
Miremoses1: If Big D**k Benz continues with this performance and probably win 1 or 2 trophies with us this season, i don't see any reason why he shouldnt be in contention to be in top 5 in the next Balon D'or.
I have a question tho...what did vvd do better than Mane last season?
Miremoses1: proud moments. Even though he wasn't nominated for the award, he still went to the show. Not only that, he also agreed to hand over the Balon D'or to the winner.
Sultan5: Maybe your right, but I feel star wars movie and series are not under the control of Marvel but under the control of Lucasfilm. Does that make sense? Marvel got the license to star wars recently say 2015 but Disney acquired Lucasfilm a bit further back than that. So it is no brainer for Disney to give comics right to their comic branch which is Marvel. Hope you can see where am coming from.
And don't get defensive, I never said I was superior or more mature than anyone here. Just said I didn't see the need for the banter as you can easily enjoy both Marvel and DC movies without all the sentiments. I know its a foreign concept and against the norms here but its just my 2 cent, which I gave because you tagged me a MCU fan. Hope this clears that up.
If you not an MCU fanboy why do you always talk about only MCU movies or Marvel related topics?
And your whole elaboration on the starwars/marvel topic wasn't necessary..you were basically just saying what I said while still saying I was wrong
Miremoses1: A problem for Zidane - Casemiro is one yellow card short of being suspended. Our next three games in Liga are against Espanyol, Valencia and Barcelona. [Marca]
Get the yellow Vs Espanyol,miss Valencia and come back for the classico