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oloriooko:Fair enough. Our coaches and NFF do us no favors. |
oloriooko:So the national team can go to blazes then? Because they're good in their clubs? |
oloriooko:Let us see the chemistry and physics on the football pitch. |
Goke7:Or maybe its mind games. 🫨 |
semid4lyfe:Nah it's not me. Plus I don't even agree with her entirely. It doesn't make sense to me that FIFA would reduce the intercontinental playoff spot if DRC is guilty. It's more likely to me that DRC's results in the CAF playoffs may be cancelled since the petitions were submitted before the intercontinental playoffs. Cameroon and Nigeria were the supposed "victims" after all. So probably a match between them? Idk. Fun fact: I heard Sudan were even the first to issue the petition against Congo as far back as October. |
TheSuperNerd:He's one of the people I'm most wary about in this tournament. Hopefully he proves me wrong. |
Congrats to him. Personally, I'd have given it to Osimhen or Bassey, but oh well. I wish him all the best.
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Amedino99:If I'm being honest here, I won't really be surprised. I just don't want to rain on anyone's parade because it feels like nearly everyone here is arguing for the case to go in our favor. The whole case is far too convoluted and/or confusing and not as clear cut and convincing as the SA and Eritrea case. There's too many variables involved. It took me a while to understand what was really at stake with this DRC case, and even then I wasn't fully convinced. Let's just focus on the AFCON if you ask me. |
TheSuperNerd:Thank you for your response. First, I'll give you points for actually presenting an argument and not just spewing blind rhetoric like some people here. Now let me reiterate that my concern isn't specifically about Morocco's Arab Cup squad. For the life of me I'm not sure why people keep missing this and obsessing over Morocco. If it's the way I worded it, let me know, but I'm trying to make a point here about our team form and mentality. Not Morocco!! Earlier on this same thread, I already noted that even with our second squad, we had Egypt shook, even when they fielded about 80% of their main squad. All of this I've noted before, so you're not really telling me anything new there. If we pushed them close without key starters, that does speak to our underlying quality when fully assembled. My problem is how reserved and overly cautious we seem to be when we're on the ball. We're not easy to dispossess, especially on our best days, but I don't feel like we take enough advantage of our leverage to create chances and drive the game forward. There were many moments in that Egypt game where it felt to me like our positioning would have been better and we'd have been quicker with our transitions, releasing the ball early. But we didn't do that. The next thing, we start making frustrating backpasses! SE games can get mighty boring at times when they play with such lethargy and that's my only problem. DR Congo didn't beat us because they were better. They beat us because they were fearless and they wanted it more. We on the other hand were full of nerves and it showed from the moment Osimhen left up until the penalties which we absolutely flopped (probably the worst penalty shootout I've ever seen from the SE). Plus fatigue after playing extra time against Gabon didn't help matters for us. The same can be said of the Moroccan and Jordan teams that played the Arab Cup tonight. Quality wise, they're never on our level. But the intensity, drive and hunger they displayed is something I haven't really seen with the Super Eagles. Also, and this is just an afterthought, but I have a serious issue with Eric Chelle's profiling of players. I don't see why Akinsanmiro should be playing number 10 and Fisayo playing as number 6 with Ejuke as second striker. If you can make sense of this, I'd love to hear it because I can't find the words to explain the logic behind those decisions. I hope Eric Chelle won't sabotage our campaign with his experimentations. SUMMARY: Pound for pound, we (Nigeria) are better than most (if not all) teams on the continent, but questionable tactics and what I can only describe as low self confidence is seriously holding us back at times. |
Bossoflife25:Well, they beat Belgium, then eliminated Spain and Portugal... unless you consider these teams minnows in your bizarre little world. South Africa beating them later doesn't retroactively erase those performances. You understand how linear time works, right? Or does every achievement vanish the moment someone loses afterward? Are you genuinely this confused about basic chronology and context? Wehdone, Mr. Pundit. You are doing well. Morocco beat three European powers on football's biggest stage. But according to you, they eventually lost, so nothing matters. Congratulations on your lack of understanding. |
Samueltemi337:Are you and your partner too dense to understand that the actual target of my comment was primarily on the current form of the Nigerian squad in relation to Jordan and Morocco, and not Jordan and Morocco themselves? Or are you just looking for who to burden with your inadequacies? |
Morocco losing to Jordan 2-1 in the 80th minute. They might not win the Arab Cup. I'm curious, have the Morocco senior men's team won any major trophy during this golden generation of theirs? Because that will be rather unfortunate? |
Bossoflife25:I no sabi ball. But then again, you don't need to be a pundit to see that our current squad (going off their qualifying run) will struggle against any of the two teams playing the Arab Cup final right now. If you have a counterargument, then you can present it. Your terse, infantile, needlessly combative retort here helps neither of us. |
This Jordan or Moroccan side, I don't see us beating them if we meet. A draw might even be generous. Scariest part is that this is probably Morocco team B/C. |
Mujtahida:This squad needs therapy. We used to be a team that struggled against minnows because of overconfidence and walloped big teams because people would tend to write us off before the match. Now we can't even match these big teams anymore. |
I'm currently watching the Arab Cup final between Jordan and Morocco. Crazy goal by Morocco scored all the way from their half in the 4th minute. See intensity and drive from both the Moroccans and Jordans. Can never be Super Chickens. Here we will be foolishly jogging and strolling like there's nothing at stake. Playing absolutely frustrating rubbish to the point where you want to snatch out your hair. |
yinkeys:It seems like the only formation he's familiar with and knows how to play. I'd say that's a huge deficit to his coaching cred, to be honest. And I say this as someone who wants him to succeed with the team. |
yinkeys:Woh- anything wey Chelle and those boys wan do, make dem do. I have little to no confidence in this team delivering, talk less of winning the trophy. |
semid4lyfe:God bless you 🥹🥰 |
semid4lyfe:The lethargy and slow pace of their gameplay, capped off with their r3 tarded backpassing pisses me off more than anything. Even in the Benin game, if it wasn't for Osimhen (and Chukwueze to an extent), we won't even be talking about playoffs. It was three goals he hustled that boosted our chances before Onyeka scored that final crucial goal. Whenever they score, they sit back and start lazying about, like there's nothing at stake. The most annoying part is that I can't really blame them. The NFF have mishandled things so poorly that these players might low-key feel like we need them more than they need us. Afterall what do we have? How many superstars can we produce from our local league? Which of our NPFL players right now can realistically walk into the Super Eagles starting 11 without a sweat? On top of all this, the NFF doesn't accord them due respect. Of course, they'll keep playing matches like they don't give a damn. |
Okay, so this is a bookmarked conversation I had with Grok concerning the issue on ground. My words are in green. Grok's are in red. Plus it's slightly edited for more convenient reading. I'll leave you guys to draw your own conclusions from the chat. ***************************************** ME: What conditions must Nigeria meet to win their FIFA case against DR Congo and vice versa? GROK: Background on the FIFA Case Nigeria's Super Eagles were eliminated from the 2026 FIFA World Cup African qualifiers after losing 4-3 on penalties to DR Congo's Leopards in the CAF playoff final on November 16, 2025, in Rabat, Morocco (1-1 after extra time). DR Congo advanced to the intercontinental playoffs in March 2026, where they are drawn against the winner of New Caledonia vs. Jamaica for a chance to join Group K (with Portugal, Uzbekistan, and Colombia). On December 16, 2025, the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) filed a formal petition with FIFA alleging that up to nine DR Congo players (including Aaron Wan-Bissaka and Axel Tuanzebe) were ineligible due to violations of Congolese nationality laws. Cameroon had filed a similar complaint earlier after their semifinal loss to DR Congo. FIFA has acknowledged the petition and is investigating, with a decision expected before the March playoffs.The core dispute revolves around FIFA's player eligibility rules (outlined in Articles 5-9 of the FIFA Statutes and the Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes) versus DR Congo's domestic laws. FIFA prioritizes "sporting nationality" (proof via passport or official documents showing legal nationality), while Nigeria claims DR Congo submitted fraudulent documents, misleading FIFA. Nigeria's Case: Conditions to Win Nigeria must prove that DR Congo fielded ineligible players in the playoff final, triggering sanctions under FIFA's disciplinary code (e.g., forfeiture of the match, expulsion from playoffs, or points deduction). THINGS NIGERIA MUST PROVE... 1. Nigeria must demonstrate that DR Congo knowingly provided false documents to FIFA, such as passports obtained without players renouncing prior nationalities (e.g., British for Wan-Bissaka). Congolese law (Article 10 of the 2006 Nationality Code) requires exclusive nationality for adults, and a 2007 moratorium allows dual citizenship for minors but not adults without formal renunciation. NFF claims 6-9 players (born in Europe) retained EU passports without renouncing, deceiving FIFA. Precedent: Malaysia's 2025 sanction for forged documents in naturalization cases. 2. Evidence that ineligible players directly influenced the result (e.g., Wan-Bissaka's defensive role in the penalty shootout). Wan-Bissaka and Tuanzebe started and played full matches; Mbemba (eligible) scored the winning penalty, but FIFA could rule the game a 3-0 default win for Nigeria if multiple ineligible players are confirmed. 3. Show FIFA's pre-match clearance was based on incomplete info, not FIFA's fault (FIFA doesn't enforce domestic laws). NFF General Secretary Mohammed Sanusi stated: "FIFA was deceived... it is not FIFA’s responsibility to interpret Congolese regulations." 4. Filed within 14 days of the match (met on Dec. 16); Nigeria as direct opponent has locus standi. Similar to Cameroon's earlier filing; joint complaints strengthen the case. If successful, DR Congo could be disqualified, with Nigeria reinstated to the intercontinental playoffs (or a playoff rematch with Cameroon based on rankings). DR Congo's Case: Conditions to Win (or Defend Successfully) DR Congo (via Fecofa) must affirm that all players met FIFA's sporting eligibility criteria, dismissing Nigeria's claims as sour grapes. FIFA typically defers to the issuing country's documents unless fraud is proven. THINGS DRC MUST PROVE... 1. All players hold valid Congolese passports issued by the government, satisfying FIFA's "legal nationality" requirement (FIFA Statutes, Art. 6). Dual citizenship issues are domestic, not FIFA's purview. Fecofa submitted passports pre-match; Director Hérita Ilunga stated: "FIFA reasons in terms of sporting nationality, not legal nationality." Precedent: FIFA's deference in diaspora-heavy teams like Algeria or Morocco. 2. Prove no intentional deception; any dual status stems from a 2007 moratorium or administrative oversight, not malice. Players acquired citizenship via parental/grandparental links (FIFA Art. 7). No revocation of passports by DR Congo government; passports are "legit" per Fecofa. X discussions note sovereign right to issue citizenship. 3. Compliance with Switch Rules Players under 21 at switch or without senior caps for prior nation (e.g., Wan-Bissaka never played senior England). All switches approved by FIFA's Players' Status Committee; no post-21 competitive matches for original countries. 4. Argue petition lacks merit and is time-barred or frivolous; seek dismissal and potential counter-sanctions on Nigeria. Fecofa's response: "If you can't win on the pitch, don't try the back door... Not with lawyers' tricks." Precedent: Dismissals in similar cases (e.g., South Africa's 2025 points deduction was for a suspended player, not nationality). If successful, FIFA dismisses the case, DR Congo retains their spot, and Nigeria's World Cup hopes end (focusing on AFCON 2025). Likely Outcome: DR Congo appears favored, as FIFA rarely overturns clearances without ironclad fraud evidence (e.g., forged docs), and domestic laws like Congo's aren't binding on sporting eligibility. Nigeria's case hinges on unproven deception, which experts (e.g., on X and in analyses) call "slim." A decision could come by late January 2026, potentially reshaping Africa's final World Cup spot. ME: If domestic laws aren't binding on sporting eligibility then it opens the floodgates for countries to field players who aren't recognized as citizens by the parent country. Don't you think that's a problem? GROK: You’re absolutely right — and that’s exactly the core tension in this case (and many others like it). FIFA’s eligibility rules are deliberately designed not to depend on the strict domestic nationality laws of the country in question. Instead, they operate on a much lower threshold: If a player holds a valid passport of Country X (issued by that country’s government), and If the player meets one of the objective sporting connections in Article 7 (born on the territory, parent/grandparent born there, or residency), and If any nationality switch complies with the one-time switch rule, then FIFA considers the player eligible — full stop. FIFA does not police whether that passport complies with every nuance of the issuing country’s own nationality code. That creates exactly the loophole you identified: a country can theoretically issue passports to diaspora players even if its domestic law says those people aren’t “true” citizens (or lost citizenship automatically by holding another one).Real-world examples where this has already happened: Qatar (2010s–2020s) Issued passports to dozens of South American, African, and European players (e.g., Sebastián Soria, Afonso Alves). Many never lived in Qatar and kept original citizenship. FIFA accepted them; Qatar played them for years. Cape Verde Regularly fields Portugal-born players with Cape Verdean passports despite Cape Verde’s constitution historically limiting dual citizenship. FIFA never intervened. Algeria & Morocco Issue passports to French-born players; France recognizes dual citizenship, but the Maghreb countries sometimes don’t in practice. FIFA ignores the domestic contradiction. DR Congo (current case) Issued passports to Wan-Bissaka, Tuanzebe, etc. Congolese law says adults must have exclusive nationality, but the government still issued the passports anyway. FIFA’s likely stance: “You issued the passport → your problem, not ours.” Why FIFA refuses to get involved in domestic law FIFA’s official position (repeated in dozens of CAS and Disciplinary Committee decisions) is: It is a private association, not a court that interprets sovereign states’ nationality laws. Requiring FIFA to adjudicate every country’s domestic citizenship code would make eligibility impossible to administer (200+ different legal systems). The only workable system is to accept the passport as prima-facie evidence of nationality. The only time FIFA steps in is when there is clear fraud — forged documents, bribes to immigration officials, or the issuing government itself revokes the passport and tells FIFA “these are invalid.” None of that has happened with DR Congo yet. Bottom line. Yes, the rules absolutely allow a country to “cheat” its own domestic laws by simply issuing passports to diaspora players. FIFA will almost always look the other way unless the fraud is blatant and provable beyond reasonable doubt.That’s why most legal experts following the Nigeria–DR Congo case believe Nigeria’s chances are very slim: they would need to prove actual document forgery or government revocation, not just “these passports violate Congolese law.” The latter argument has been tried many times before — and almost always fails. ME: So basically it has to be proven that the passports were falsified/forged. That's the only way Nigeria wins this case? GROK: Yes, in practice that’s almost exactly right. Nigeria wins only if they can prove one of the following two things to FIFA’s satisfaction (and the burden of proof is on Nigeria): 1. The passports themselves are forged or fraudulently obtained (e.g., bribes paid to immigration officials, fake birth certificates submitted, forged signatures, etc.). This is the classic “document fraud” route. If proven, FIFA will declare the players ineligible and sanction DR Congo (forfeiture, disqualification, etc.). OR 2. (extremely rare, but possible) The DR Congo government officially revokes the passports and informs FIFA that they were issued in error or illegally Once the sovereign state says “these people are not our citizens and the passports are invalid,” FIFA has no choice but to accept that. Everything else — “Congolese law says adults can’t have dual nationality,” “they never formally renounced British citizenship,” “the 2007 moratorium doesn’t apply,” etc. — is irrelevant to FIFA. Those are violations of Congolese domestic law, not FIFA regulations. FIFA has rejected that exact argument dozens of times (see Ecuador vs. Byron Castillo, Qatar’s naturalized players, etc.). Current reality check (as of December 18, 2025). There is zero public evidence of forged documents or bribes in Kinshasa. The DR Congo government has not revoked any of the passports and is publicly defending the players. The passports were accepted by FIFA’s Players’ Status Department months ago when the switches were approved. So unless Nigeria (or Cameroon) drops a smoking-gun document in the next few weeks — actual proof of forgery or an official Congolese revocation letter — DR Congo will keep the playoff spot. Legal experts following the case on X and in African football circles put Nigeria’s realistic chances at under 10 %. |
charlesemeka85:What's your problem? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
elyte89:Almost like Osasu, SoccerNittyGritty is another learned scholar and someone whom I value his opinion greatly when it comes to football politics and football itself. This hope una dey give us, I go swear for una if this thing no materialize o. 🤧 |
9JAMac10:We'll surely wipe South Africa if we face them with our full squad. In both games we played against them in the qualifiers, we didn't face them with our best attacking options and yet we didn't lose. What they have is good structure and discipline. Individually, their players don't measure up. Chelle just needs to put one or two plans in place and we should be golden. DRC is the matchup I'd love to see though. It low-key bugs me that they have a better record against us in H2H and yet we've been writing them off as one of those middle to low tier teams we should easily beat. Same with Uganda. They somehow have a better H2H record against us. We need wins against them to equalize in that tally. I've done some calculations and we're likely to meet DRC again in the quarter finals. There we can get our chance at redemption. We are also likely to meet Ivory Coast in the Round of 16 too. So... just something to keep in mind or anticipate. |
TheSuperNerd:You're not a nice person at all. Leave our coachee alone. 😂😂😂 |
Subzero0477:Then I'm not sure what the point of your response was anyway. |
Subzero0477:I'm not sure where I called Ahmed Musa a legend, but sure, knock yourself out. |
Why is no one talking about Ahmed Musa's retirement? 👀 To be honest, I think he was one of our better wingers in his prime. Pacy, tricky and clinical. He might have overstayed his welcome, but he'll be remembered fondly. |
Goke7:Doesn't this squad have a therapist? Because they seriously need mental conditioning to stop holding back. I counted no less than 5 moments in the first half alone where we would have bamboozled through the Egyptian defense with sleek passes. And there were clear and obvious spaces to exploit! And yes indeed, Egypt parked the bus because the boys were more dominant. If our attackers were better with their positioning, we should have gotten two or more goals in the second half.I concur. |
yinkeys:Lol female. Well I don't normally watch Nigerian friendly games. I think I really started paying attention to non-tournament Super Eagles games after AFCON 2023. You just reminded me about Lookman too. He was fantastic too for the few moments he played. I hope AFCON 2023 Lookman is back. |
