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TheGift:
You're quoting Trump for me as evidence. You must be a joker.

Please dont bother responding again because i PROMISE not to read it, and i MAY block you for good.

Good night.

Can you please tell us one thing he said that's not true.

While at it also tell us what PURPOSE blocking someone serves?? The most STUPID thing ever created. Do you speak to everyone on NL? Same way you don't speak to others u stop responding to the person and they'll stop posting you - unless it is a really crazed troll!

Assuming I block you now what does that mean?
Infact I'll block you just to see how this works

Reminds of this guy below

TheGift:
You're very funny. Did the US tell you that they were going to war to learn lessons? And are they the only ones that can learn? Do you not realize that Iran has been able to sustain this war because of the lessons learnt from previous attacks.?

One thing which is becoming clearer to me is that you think wars are won or lost purely from a militaristic dimension but that is so narrow minded

I know you like speculations but these are the undisputable facts;

1. The US failed to destroy Iran's nuclear program (set back only ~months, not eliminated)

2. Iran's government survived; hardliners were empowered rather than weakened

3. US is in a weaker position than before the war with no long-term strategic gains

4. Iran's closure of the Strait of Hormuz blocked a vital shipping lane

5. The war handed a windfall to Russia (which has sold weapons to Iran, and has benefitted from america's distraction from Ukraine) and weakened US strategic edge against China.

6. US depleted Tomahawk missiles and other munitions needed for more dangerous adversaries

7. Six out of seven American military bases in the region were bombed without any meaningful resistance

8. America's moral reputation and reputation for effective governance has suffered globally

9. American has lost support of its main allies particularly in the Europe.

10. Gas prices in the US Rose from ~$3/gallon to ~$4/gallon (38% increase); later breached $4.50/gallon. Americans paid $8.4 Billion more for gas in just the first month of the war

11. Nearly 1/3 of Americans reduced spending/savings due to higher fuel costs

12. The cost of the war is estimated to have exceeded $1 billion daily , a ridiculously high amount spent on strategic objectives that have not been met, even though you ridiculously think it is worth it for the lessons learnt about Hormuz.

13. America is not even able to properly handle the peace talks that it has been pushing for.

14. America and Isreal who started the war together, are now at loggerheads.

I could go on, but these are just a few of the UNDISPUTABLE facts.

Majority of Americans are not in support of the war, yet you from a country described by Trump as a "shithole" are still here supporting it,- even though the war almost doubled fuel prices in your country.and you are paying more for food because of it.

Robert Kagan , a senior fellow in the Brookings Institute (one of the most influential think tanks in America stated: "this is essentially a complete victory for Iran and a significant loss for the United States".

These are people.who are more.informed than most on these topics, but you want me take your own assurance based on specualtions about the midterms? Like I said, you're very funny.

You are the one very funny, actually COMPARING US to Iran. What lesson did Iran learn? They started laying mines in Hormuz years ago, so it's not like this war taught them that.

You're fund of posting this conjectural list everywhere. Everything you posted is reversible - example, same alies are praising Trump for the Iran deal. And you forget Trump (or any president after him) can still obliterate Iran and by then there'll no longer be midterms or Hormuz as deterance!
So here is an OBJECTIVE list of actual permanent (Not "maybe" losses:

Before the war Ayatollah and all the top echelons who perpetrated torture on civilians, and their potential successors, were alive.

Before the war 6000 Iranian soldiers were alive.

Before the war Iran had Navy, Airforce, and air defence.

Before the war trillions in Iranian infrastructure were not destroyed.

Before the war Iranian economy was not destroyed and in deep depression, now it is.

Before the war Iran didn't have highest inflation rate since 1940's (200%)

Before the war Iran had nuclear in mind, now the furthest thing from their mind is nuclear weapons.

Before the war US was NOT the highest oil exporter in the world, now it is.

Before the war US core inflation rate was 2.5%, now it is 2.9%. See it below

Before the war, no one thought a country would engage in the terrorist act of attacking uninvolved commercial ships at sea. Now it'd be dealt with and SOLVED like other potential terrorist acts.

US is granting ACCESS to Iran to their frozen funds, NOT directly releasing money to them to buy whatever they wish. The money is paid to third party suppliers, which in most cases is US!

Now that it is known Iran can go so low, Gulf state countries' defense systems will now be upgraded so they'd be Iran-proof like those ships used for blockade - and they now know they'd have to contribute substantially instead of just going around being extremely rich!

US learnt a lot from the war and will be incorporating these lessons into their defense structure going forward (and they have excess money to do it). Iran will be struggling to get back to where they were before the war.

US made a lot money because oil prices went up. Iran lost a lot of money because they couldn't sell their oil!
https://www.nairaland.com/8685540/red-meat-dream-iran-inflation

Holluwhakemmy:
Atiku has no credibility

Dreams die hard. He'd still run in 2031😆

What happened to corrupt Atiku? How come no one talks about him anymore

Holluwhakemmy:
Either you like it or not Tinubu iremain our president till 2027

But not 2031, right?

AguluLiar:
Nobody will vote for Obi except his blodas
He go contest tire.

kiddaz:
Yeah right. I felt the same thing when I heard a song he did. Laff wan finish me. He's in the wrong profession I guess

People always trying to fit their round peg into a square hole because it is more glamorous

Bendeco02:
Ashawo is very bad

I can't support that

Even though it is your culture? But you support ciga because it is your culture

Sonnobax15:

Even tho it's almost too late but I must it's a welcomed development.

The rate at which young boys and girls of nowadays smokes, i know 5+ years from now,mad people will be so surplus across our societies

The funniest thing is that when such people living wayward lifestyles come across people like us who don't smoke or womanize,they see us as low esteem people

This morning,I got to my shop and the first person I saw was a boy of let's say 20 years old, smoking away his life, while his girlfriend was just sitting beside him, watching This dude was looking so gentle and calm .

Our govt really need to step up and fight against this vices contaminating our societies. So that we don't end up blaming others for the rot it'd cause in the future just like the south Africans are doing to other black Africans

No comment at all on the ashwawo they're most angry about. Hmmmm..

Bendeco02:
There's nothing bad in smoking.

If it's not good in your body, just quit it.

As Onitsha guy, smoke don't stop us from achieving our goals.

Smoke is our culture

You could have a point as shown below. Life is not as 1+1=2 as we think.
But don't forget ashawo. It is also your culture, no?

judewrites:
Next time FIFA will think twice before granting USA hosting rights

Trump presidency will soon end and they may elect his exact opposite. What will you say then? US constantly corrects course. That's their advantage over totalitarian regimes like China and Russia

kiddaz:
Yeah makes me wonder why he's even known at all

Because he's a comedian and rable rouser. He could've been a very good comedian

Mindblowing:
You are an idiot for this comment, moreover what is your GDP compare to the US GDP? I don't know if you are talking from your Anus, New York GDP alone is bigger than that of Nigeria s country and you are here talking nonsense...get some sense okay.

HacheNoire don't take this lying down!😅

kiddaz:
Hahahahahahahahaha... I prefer Dbull abeg

I agree. He has no talent but he is better than Akpi. But then almost everybody is better than Akpi

kiddaz:
Lol true.. but I like his spirit. He just needs to channel it rightly

Right? Like Speedy Akpi, zero talent in music but he still has his fans and making money

kiddaz:
Dbull on this one

I understand dreams die hard but if you don't have it you just don't. You find something you have talent for

How can they let self-declared same-sex sexual deviants adopt a same-sex child?

Secretbloodline:
Like father like son

A lion begets a lion and a goat begets a goat

Sure, like these below x

Rich4god:
The man came to grab power.... And that is what we are seeing...

Don't be surprised if after winning the election, he will start pressing for third term or a single term of 6 years beginning from him.

Who will stop him... No one.

That's what I've been saying too. Tinubu can go for a third term or get his puppet elected president

donleo92:
With this I 100 percent believe whatever trump says about the i-ranian situation.

Their country has lost its military, they have been begging to negotiate but just saving face

If the i-ranian had any bargaining chip, they would have included Israel leaving Lebanon

But hell no, them no born them tooooooo

Even, if the regime change doesn't come now, it would come later a case study Syria.

Most of their hardliners are all died with 72 virgins besides them

Not only that, they know Trump is facing a mid-term elections soon
If they were not desperate they'd have refused a deal till after the elections, and embarrass him

But I thought they said Atiku was working for Tinubu

AMINDA:
Even the most ardent supporters of Tinubu no longer bother to prove that he is better, they only argue these days that the others are the same. Even if they are the same, Tinubu has been tested and has failed. Let others come and try too.

Not only that, frankly APC, Buhari, Tinubu, NEED to be PUNISHED for bringing Nigeria to where they have now brought us, instead of being rewarded with a 4th term!
That is natural law.

AMINDA:
Even the most ardent supporters of Tinubu no longer bother to prove that he is better, they only argue these days that the others are the same. Even if they are the same, Tinubu has been tested and has failed. Let others come and try too.

Not only that, frankly APC, Buhari, Tinubu, NEED to be PUNISHED for bringing Nigeria here, instead of being rewarded with a 4th term.
That is natural law.

stuffs2002:
Over 120 out of 136 prisoners are Igbo

How do you know ? Just curious

You can't just disolve governments in a democracy. It was illegal in Rivers and you won't see it anymore

Kemetian:
WILL YOU SHUT UP THERE.

SO IRAN SHOULD JUST SIT BACK AND ALLOW WHITE EUROPEANS WHO FALSELY CLAIM TO BE "GOD'S CHOSEN" TO STEAL AND ROB ARABS OF THEIR LANDS?

BECAUSE OF SOME STUPID LIES ABOUT GOD PROMISING THEM LAND 3,000 YEARS AGO?

ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE OKAY?

RUBBISH!

Ok, see below, did God also promise Zakzaky land?

Flangelo12:
You have no point.

Obi is making a phool of himself.

Quod erat demonstrandum

grandstar:
Nothing wicked at all.

Their countries were biilt for their citizens not migrants.

How about legal migrants?

DomPerignon:
Another useless lame attempt at derailing the thread .

Your obi said they are all innocent thereby claiming Ethiopian authorities just locked them up for no reason when we all know they have all since been convicted by an Ethiopian court for drug related offenses

Why must your obi lie always?

Where did "my" Obi say "ALL"?
Do you now agree that Iran sponsored terrorists?