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Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 11:25am On Dec 07, 2023
Omobude244:
nor be only Obadio
na ObaFM grin

How did Obadio come about?
who are they in Ife?
Tell us the names of Obagodo's parents in igodomigodo or Bini land. Does the name Obagodo sound edoid to you?
Properties › Re: My Family Now Homeless - Man Whose ₦300m Mansion Was Pulled Down In Lagos by Raf4: 11:23am On Dec 07, 2023
Blitzerz:
Sharap dia. Hopeless tapeworm
Disgusting cesspit dweller.
Properties › Re: My Family Now Homeless - Man Whose ₦300m Mansion Was Pulled Down In Lagos by Raf4: 10:37am On Dec 07, 2023
Blitzerz:
They have given up on your generation
Anuofia
Oh you still need your psychiatrists around. Don't worry we will help you appeal to them, but never you skip your medication again and stop biting.
Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 9:51am On Dec 07, 2023
Thebadpolitican:
Leo febonus did a digging there and nothing was found you dey whine

So because some yoruba falsefully setup a structure to further buthress their false narrative we should take it serious grin grin clowns of a tribe

Were is the alafin of oyo heads buried in Ife
Where is the rest oduduwa children heads buried in Ife why only Benin, if una nor dey whine una head bunch of clowns




Read this


The historian who first came out with such a fallcious statement that the oba of Benin heads were being buried in Ife, was a benin historian with the name Dr jacob Egharevba.
Egharevba earliest work is a mix of oral traditions and speculation which he corrected in his later works, however as a matter of fact it's a traditional practice in Benin that kings of the various vassals state, under Benin control would come back to bury the previous king heads in Benin in order to notify the oba that the previous monarchy was dead this journey to Benin can only be carried out by the incoming successor who will stay in Benin for months or years to learn the ways of the Benins before going back to take his father's position as king. however this practice was never a tradition in ile-Ife as no other of the supposed oduduwa sons had a burial site making it suspecious and fallacious from Egharevba who was equipped with the Benin oral history and had mix oral tradition of the Benins with his imagination to forge the orun oba ado tradition which he termed in his book `Ile Ife the final resting place of the oba of Benin' Egharevba had writing with no consultation or whatsoever and was not even close to the palace to begin with, his works lacked referencing other than just pure selfish intrest he could derive from the then watern region the edos where under at that time, Frank Willet a french historian did an excavation on the very orun oba ado site in 1969 hoping to find some truth in what yoruba belive to be an historical site, all nine site the excavation took place was empty and nothing was found in them it is of most importance to note that at the time the supposed myth of oromiyan visit to benin, her name was still called igodomigodo and not yet ado that originated from oba ewaure a long distance predecessor of oba eweka 1

Raf4
Continue to live in self deceit and denial till eternity. Orun obat ado shrine in Ile-Ife, where they buried the heads and toes of your deceased obas, is well known and has been in existence for centuries. Akenzua II, Ereduawa II and Ewuare II cannot rewrite the history that there ancestors for many generations practiced and upheld.
Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 9:42am On Dec 07, 2023
Thebadpolitican:
LOL those places you mentioned were under Benin control

Try search Asaba relationship with Benin on goggle, if Benin was not stop the empire would
Have occupied what is know as Nigeria now including the north
You're overhyping your 4 LGA empire. Ijaws, Ilajes, Ijebus, Dahomey were never under your Bini. Bini even tried the Igalas, but had to perish the ideas and abandoned the war attempt quickly.
Properties › Re: My Family Now Homeless - Man Whose ₦300m Mansion Was Pulled Down In Lagos by Raf4: 9:36am On Dec 07, 2023
Blitzerz:
Na schizophrenia go kee u dia.
Onyearra!
Your psychiatrists have given up on you already.
Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 9:33am On Dec 07, 2023
Procashtips:
Stop changing the narratives.

Dahomey paid taxes to Oyo kingdom because it's on record that the Oyo kingdom at one time conquered them.

Now show us from history if and when the Benin Kingdom conquered the Aworis that led to them paying taxes to the Benin Kingdom in Eko the Benins named.

Spare us any other unrelated gibberish for now.
Do I need to school you about Bini expedition? How Oba of Bini sent his warriors to Lagos because of constant disputes between the Aworis and Bini traders? Go and read many history books on how Bini invaded and established Obaship in Lagos. Just because Aworis were blocking his access and control of trading activities in Lagos.
Properties › Re: My Family Now Homeless - Man Whose ₦300m Mansion Was Pulled Down In Lagos by Raf4: 9:22am On Dec 07, 2023
Blitzerz:
see u Ozworr
Pathetic miserably afflicted and diseased gorilla.
Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 12:28am On Dec 07, 2023
Thebadpolitican:
Read this

The historian who first came out with such a fallcious statement that the oba of Benin heads were being buried in Ife, was a benin historian with the name Dr jacob Egharevba.
Egharevba earliest work is a mix of oral traditions and speculation which he corrected in his later works, however as a matter of fact it's a traditional practice in Benin that kings of the various vassals state, under Benin control would come back to bury the previous king heads in Benin in order to notify the oba that the previous monarchy was dead this journey to Benin can only be carried out by the incoming successor who will stay in Benin for months or years to learn the ways of the Benins before going back to take his father's position as king. however this practice was never a tradition in ile-Ife as no other of the supposed oduduwa sons had a burial site making it suspecious and fallacious from Egharevba who was equipped with the Benin oral history and had mix oral tradition of the Benins with his imagination to forge the orun oba ado tradition which he termed in his book `Ile Ife the final resting place of the oba of Benin' Egharevba had writing with no consultation or whatsoever and was not even close to the palace to begin with, his works lacked referencing other than just pure selfish intrest he could derive from the then watern region the edos where under at that time, Frank Willet a french historian did an excavation on the very orun oba ado site in 1969 hoping to find some truth in what yoruba belive to be an historical site, all nine site the excavation took place was empty and nothing was found in them it is of most importance to note that at the time the supposed myth of oromiyan visit to benin, her name was still called igodomigodo and not yet ado that originated from oba ewaure a long distance predecessor of oba eweka 1
Orun Oba Ado shrine is very much available in Ile-Ife till today. You can go to Ife for verification. It has always been there for centuries. You can also Google it.
Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 12:23am On Dec 07, 2023
Thebadpolitican:
The full name the Benins gave lagos is
Ekonuame= the camp around waters
Why didn't they establish another Ekonuame around gelegele or Asaba or Escravos or Warri or Ilaje etc that are very close or easier to access for them? Only to go over 400km aways to already occupied land that were surrounded by equally powerful Kingdoms like Ijebu, Ilaje, Dahomey and Oyo empire etc. Bini never named Eko. It's Ereko that it's being pronounced Eeko and finally Eko.
This is very common in Yorubaland eg Eba-Odan to Ebadan and finally Ibadan. Oso Igbo to Osoogbo and finally to Osogbo etc
Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 12:03am On Dec 07, 2023
Procashtips:
Who's this?

Oga,why were the Aworis paying tax to the Benin Kingdom if they were no war between both parties?

It's on record that the Aworis paid isokale to the Benin Kingdom.

This is a known history even though you guys are trying all means to change and twist history.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/oba-of-benin-remains-head-of-traditional-rulers-edo/%3famp

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/
Dahomey also paid isakole to Oyo empire. That doesn't mean Oyo founded Dahomey.
Nobody is disputing that at some point Bini invaded Ereko and overpowered the Aworis.
Eleko of Eko (Oba of Lagos) throne was established by Bini, but Bini never founded Lagos.
Just like Ile-Ife people, led by Prince Oranmiyan, invaded Igodomigodo, renamed it Ile-Ibinu (now Bini) and established Obaship dynasty there till today.
Properties › Re: My Family Now Homeless - Man Whose ₦300m Mansion Was Pulled Down In Lagos by Raf4: 9:14pm On Dec 06, 2023
Blitzerz:
U gha zua.
Omwenmwén
Dirty buttlicker. Buffoon!
Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 9:11pm On Dec 06, 2023
Omobude244:
lolz
ozuor say evidence grin grin

please where are the evidence

if obagodo was from ife, how did he came about, who are his parents in ife? which year did he migrate to benin to found igodomigodo?
or he fell from heaven and landed in ife and headed to benin immediately grin grin
i am waiting for ur answers since u said u have facts grin
i want all this answers to be listed along side the dates

i have never seen a region so filled with liars, propagandist like the yoruba region
tufiakwa
He came from Obadio family in Ile-Ife or do you know the name of his parents in igodomigodo?
Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 9:03pm On Dec 06, 2023
greggng:
This your fake news has been disputed and trashed . You have no evidence if this ...a notable traditional rule in edo state has made it clear that such never happened in the Benin empire history . You are trying to deceive people with fake news. Google can't even help you this time .
Picture of the shine has been posted here severally. You can also Google for it. Have you ever seen the tomb of any Oba of Bini b4? Dey play
Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 8:56pm On Dec 06, 2023
Omobude244:
ozuor
na waste of time engaging u guys
the brain is just too shallow

so because Obagodo has a meaning in yoruba, therefore he is yoruba? grin

if obagodo is from ife, how come oduduwa that founded ife came 1050 plus but obagodo reigned 40 BCE ?

Is it that u guys are so stupid in that region?

so ife already existed before oduduwa found it ?grin
so obagodo have to go to benin from ife to formed benin while his 32 lineage oduduwa after a thousand years later have to return back to found ife again grin grin

stupidity at it peak
Idiot. As usual, resorted to insult. Who told you Oduduwa established Ile-Ife? Oduduwa only came later to establish a dynasty that is still in existence today all over Yorubaland.
When your lies are burst and you're presented with factual evidence, be open to learning and be humble to accept corrections. Resorting to insult is an indication of a faulty claim on your part.
Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 8:38pm On Dec 06, 2023
Procashtips:
You people won't stop lying

Not only ereko, it's eranko.


I ask again, do you have evidence of a war between the Benin Kingdom and the so called indigenes of a land with no name later named Camp (Eko) by the Benins?
I mentioned names of about 5 communities that still exist till today, yet you're still pretending.
If you say Eko means war camp or arsenal in bini language, howcome there's no single Eko in Bini city or anywhere again in Bini territory? Only a fool will believe that Bini, in 15th/16th century went about 400km away to establish war camp in an area already surrounded by many existing communities like Ijebus, Ilajes, Oyos, Dahomy etc.
Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 8:18pm On Dec 06, 2023
Omobude244:
lolz
nobody founded igodomigodo. igodomigodo was a collection of many villages and communities that came together and agreed to have one king.
ogiso igodo(obagodo) was chosen as the head among the odionweres. he rule very well and the kingship was left to his lineage. a name was also chosen for the entire community and they named it after him

our history is rooted

we dont go about claiming what doesnt exist like oduduwa falling from the sky, trekking all the way from saudi arabia or coming from none existent Oke Ora family grin
What's the meaning of Obagodo in Edo/Bini language? Obagodo is purely Ife/Yoruba name, just like Obatala, Obameri, Obalufon, Obadio etc. Ogisos of Igodomigodo are from Ile-Ife.
Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 7:37pm On Dec 06, 2023
Procashtips:
Stop jumping around, you claimed the Benins conquered who they met there, so I'm asking, do you have any evidence of a war between the Benins and the people you claimed they met on the land they later named Eko?
Bini didn't name anywhere Eko. Eko is shortened form of Ereko.
B4 Bini invasion, there were settlements/communities like Isheri, Iddo, Ebute-Meta, Ebute-Ero, Ereko (that eventually becomes Eko)
Culture › Re: Oldest History Books Say Yoruba Not Benin Founded Lagos by Raf4: 7:27pm On Dec 06, 2023
greggng:
If I were the yorubas I will Bury there face in shame . The aworis they claimed that founded lagos also paid tax to the Benin. All the obas thst ruled lagos were all buried in Benin except one . Nigerians now know the truth about lagos
All the Bini obas' heads were buried in Ile-Ife (Orun Oba Ado shrine) except that of Akenzua II and Ereduawa II. So what's your point?
Properties › Re: My Family Now Homeless - Man Whose ₦300m Mansion Was Pulled Down In Lagos by Raf4: 6:32pm On Dec 04, 2023
Blitzerz:
Sharap there. Encephalopathic Nicompoop cool
Hahaha😆 dumbass dunce wan form alacada 🤣 😂 😁 🤣 😂
Properties › Re: My Family Now Homeless - Man Whose ₦300m Mansion Was Pulled Down In Lagos by Raf4: 5:57pm On Dec 04, 2023
Blitzerz:
U gha zuwa. Ewobi
You're totally exhausted, you can't write in English again. I spit "kẹlẹbẹ" on your wrinkled bald-head.
Travel › Re: Top 30 Countries With Highest Number Of Skyscrapers by Raf4: 11:34am On Dec 04, 2023
Sadwaste:
No single African country was listed, not even South Africa. Yet North Korea appeared on the list.

So, with a the noise about Lagos and Abuja, Nigeria does not even have up to 10 skyscrapershuhhuh??
If we do that of Nigeria, no single state from your portor region will appear on the list.
Politics › Re: CJN Ariwoola Bows & Greets Ganduje, The APC Chairman by Raf4: 10:36am On Dec 04, 2023
1. they both bowed for each other
2. It is part of Yoruba culture, even Obj does it often
3. They're both muslims and Muslims usually bow/stoop and touch their chest after each handshake whenever they're exchanging greetings.

May be you people are expecting him to carry his shoulders up because he is the CJN.

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