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Blitzerz:
Cacophony kee u dia.
Stupid tapeworn

Smelly riff-raff.

Blitzerz:
Ewobi

Cacophony! Irredeemable thug.

nobaga:
Do not let these fraudulent nonentities, trying tooth and nail to snatch victory from the top, drag you into roforofo fight.

I understand why they have to be set straight and educated because if lies are repeated often enough, gullible people believe themselves.

They have been ignored for too long. Do you really think they do not know they are liars and fraud that never had tangible history until Oba displayed their Ogiso. Even their own Ogiso known to the minorities within them as wicked, has been denied.

Thanks for your words of advice bro.

Blitzerz:
Ozwwor

Orangutan!

Ghostagain:
Look, you are too dumb to discuss history. Stop mentioning me. You can't learn, stop wasting my time.

Your elders at home are dumb. Dunce.

Uchek:
Brigadier Ogundipe! He didn’t even wait to fight before he ELOPED.

From which war or battle did he run away from?

Mention any single hero ever produced by your region.

Thebadpolitican:
Check it out ooni is a fraud

The elders in your village are fraud. Your oba's fraudulent claim made him to be confined into a cubicle of his hut palace, claiming he no dey travel, he no dey go on transfer. He knows for sure if he show face for public functions he will be seated far behind the likes of Ooni, Alaafin, Sultan, Awujale, Alake etc. This is what he is running away from.

Omobude244:
oh
i tot i was arguing with a human being with sense
now i know it is all sentiments
the same people that claimed tinubu is better than obi because of sentiment. i am not surprised though

go and learn ur history
or enjoy ur ignorance

peace out

You're now showing what is truly eating you deep inside. You carry the bitterness of your election lost enter history and hate for a whole tribe. Cretin!

Ghostagain:
1. I never said Lagos was founded in 1630. I showed you a map published in 1630, your brain is very confused.

So, when was the 1st Oba of Lagos installed?

Omobude244:
ozuor
ife owns benin but whenever Oba of Benin and Ooni meets, Ooni always stood up for the Oba

In your widest day dreams. Even in the arrangement of kings according to their seniority, your oba is not even among the first 5.
Ooni of Ife, Sultan of Sokoto, Alaafin of Oyo, Awujale of Ijebu, Olowu of Orile Owu, before your Oba of Bini is considered probably after Shehu of Borno.

Ghostagain:
I literally posted links to the websites hosting the documents.
Your head is very thick.
And of course your previous comment is you repeating your unsubstantiated claims again.

History-haram is a name which fits a fanatic like you.
Sense just can't enter your head.

The nonsense links of your village market square gossip can only satisfy the appetite of dullard like you. You're not talking to fools like those in your enclave that you can cook all sorts of lies for.
The Portuguese have it in their archives the records of their encounter with Aworis in Lagos in 1472, when your oba didn't even have any idea or knowledge of the place, yet you want me to believe your idle talk of founding same Lagos about 2 centuries later.

Ghostagain:
I'm quoting papers written by people who witnessed the era. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?
Why do I constantly have to repeat it ?
Do you understand the meaning "eyewitness written documents" ?

.

And I'm asking you to mention the names of eye witnesses whose papers you're quoting now. Give the names of authors of those phantom eyewitness written documents.

Ghostagain:
1. I never said Lagos was founded in 1630. I showed you a map published in 1630, your brain is very confused.
2. The earliest maps and records of the region which mention Lagos all claim Lagos is a part of Benin
3) once again, you confuse Benin kingdom with its capital city (Benin city). Lagos is a part of Benin kingdom !
Map of Africa published in 1747 below.
4. It is like your brain can't register. You have to be corrected several times in the same thing. All I have just said here, I already told them to you.
5. Your intelligence is so limited, yet you think you belong in discussions about history.
6. Your onis are liars, they always have been, they were originally priests and they lied themselves into being considered kings and now they are calling themselves emperors 🤣 the same Ife which nobody can find in ancient maps 😂 when was Ife ever an empire as opposed to a small village?

Open your mind to learning and stop being delusional. You said Bini founded Lagos and I said not possible. Why? Because the 1st oba of Lagos was installed circa 1630, while Portuguese already came to Lagos, met Awori people there and established trading contacts with them as far back as 1472.

You go explain explain tire.......

Head warmer in this hot African weather 🔥?

Sermwell:
You're the one who needs the aluta! Igbos are going about thier business and not depending on a stupid country!! Get your lazy ass to work!! Nigeria no send your Papa

Delusional grandeur! That's one of the plagues afflicting your people. You believe it is only igbos that do business, every other tribe is lazy, broke and jobless.

Ghostagain:
1. Prove your own claim. Logic doesn't work like you think. I don't have to use my energy to go into your unsubstantiated claim, you actually have to provide evidence for your claim, not me!
2. I don't have to provide any date of any first Oba, I have provided eyewitness written documents which clearly state that Lagos is a part of Benin.

Because it isn't possible to prove how you graduated from a university before you were born.

Ghostagain:
Dude, your mind is so narrow, once again, I have already provided eyewitness written documents from several sources which make it unmistakably clear that Lagos was a part of Benin. I don't need to follow your directions.

You have been caught trying to claim copies of Benin artefacts as being Ife artefacts, yet you still show no shame. Everybody knows you are a fraudster.

It is only a foool and slowpoke fraud like you that will believe that the same place the Portuguese visited, met indigenous people and established trading contacts with in 1472 was founded in 1630 by one set of people from over 400km away.

Thebadpolitican:
Did you bother checking it, or do you want me to post you the screenshot

https://www.nairaland.com/7463697/orun-oba-ado-ife-benin#118885803


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274431270_Early_primary_glass_production_in_southern_Nigeria.
Read up

I should check tales by the moon light discussion of your people on nairaland and other social media as authentic?

Ghostagain:
You are once again showing how uneducated you are.
We are discussing history spanning more than 600 years and you believe there are "elders" alive today who witnessed.
You just don't have common sense.
History is not researched by conducting with the living but by quoting eyewitness written documents.

This once again shows that you are a person who confuses ethnocentric fairytales with history.
It seems you don't understand the concept of time.

So how come a morọn like you is telling stories of the same events of over 600yrs ago? If you're intelligent enough, you'll know that those elders I sent you to have the correct history of their lineages, irrespective of lies and alterations the current oba and his 2 predecessors are feeding you guys. The descendants of ogiso have the genuine records of many info your oba and his 2 immediate predecessors are hiding today.

Thebadpolitican:
Did you bother checking it, or do you want me to post you the screenshot

https://www.nairaland.com/7463697/orun-oba-ado-ife-benin#118885803


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274431270_Early_primary_glass_production_in_southern_Nigeria.
Read up

I should check tales by the moon light discussion of your people on nairaland and other social media as authentic?

Omobude244:
lolz
u be proper ozuor

sense is really far from u
from Obagodo to Oraimiyan

does this make sense to u?

why does oramiyan have to invade benin again after his brother already owned benin?

Ask the unbiased elders in your community. They know the truth. Go and research about Ogiso from their descendants in Bini today, you will be surprised about the revelations they'll give you about their ancestors and the current Obaship in Bini today.

Thebadpolitican:
Were is your evidence in all this

Dull and daft lazy bones

Blitzerz:
Ewu

Cercopithecus aethiops sabaeus monkey 🐒

Omobude244:
lolz
so Obagodo fell from the sky
landed in ile ife and headed to benin

u be ozuor

Obagodo or Igodo was among the odionweres that made up the many autonomous communities/villages that agreed to come together and form a unified community for easy security, commerce and trade

Igodo was the most powerful then and he was chosen to lead to them. he rule very well and the kingship was left in his lineage.

can u tell me how he came from ife to benin?
i want to know

A fool will always resort to insult when unable to defend their fallacies.
I told you that Obagodo led some other people from Ile-Ife to the land where he founded and named Igodomigodo and established Ogiso dynasty where he became the 1st Ogiso. Yes, some other people outside of Ile-Ife joined him there.
Ile-Ife was aware of and always in contact with Igodomigodo, likewise the Igalas & Nupes, ever before Oranmiyan led another set of Ife people to invade Igodomigodo, renamed it Ile-Ibinu and established Obaship dynasty there.

In summary, both Igodomigodo and Ile-Ibinu/Bini were established by people from Ile-Ife.

Ghostagain:
You've just been caught claiming copies of Benin artefacts were actually Ife artefacts, yet you keep talking, do you have no shame ?

Did you even read the comment which you are replying ?
Are you asking me to reference eyewitnesses in my explanation of how history is researched? What sense does this make?

And you go on to write an other unsubstantiated story.
You just can't stop telling lies, it is stronger than you.

"all these were well documented by them", where are the documents? Fairytale peddler.

1.Dispute the fact that the Portuguese sailed into Ereko/Eko/Lagos Island in 1472 and met Aworis/Yoruba there
2. Provide the date the 1st Oba of Ereko/Eko/Lagos was installed.
3. Now reconcile the events and prove how Bini founded Lagos or how Lagos belongs to Bini.

Ghostagain:
It is not about "history books", it is about documents written by eye-witnesses. All you are proving with the date of your "history books" is that Yoruba were already involved in rewriting history 100 years ago.
I posted documents much older than your "history books" and they contradicted your "history books". And the documents which I posted were written by people describing what their eyes were seeing contrary to your "history books" written by people talking about things they claimed happened hundreds of years before their grand parents were born.

So, who is the eye witness you're referring to here? And which documents?

Portuguese sailed ⛵️ into Ereko that they named Lagos in 1472, met Awori Yoruba there, established trading contacts with them and all these were well documented by them. After about 2 centuries later, your oba of Bini forcefully hijacked the control of the trading activities, installed a king on the parcel of land gifted him by Aromire and the 1st oba was installed around 1630s.
My question is how can you establish a place in 1630 when the place was already in existence and in communication with the outside world, Portuguese, as far back as 1472?

Sermwell:
You have comprehension problem!! This means that the west and north are the ones begging for unity here!! Igbos no even send thier Papa sef!

You better be humble for once and embrace this liberation respectfully. If not, your aluta will continua, but your victoria will be elusive.

The same Tinubu that they passionately hate to love and love to hate, is the one that will emancipate, liberate and de-marginalise them.

Thebadpolitican:
Or are you the one living in self deceit

An excavation was done for Godsake no bones
Were found in the site, my explanation in my writeup explains how it came about
. Am glad you have learned the truth
Tho you sound rebellious in your response but it's normal it will die out

Good luck

Which excavation done on a shrine?
The shrine is still intact in Ile-Ife till today. Have they done any excavation to confirm any of Bini obas buried in Bini apart from Akenzua II and Ereduawa II?

Thebadpolitican:
You sound pained, you need to cool off buddy

Dispute what I wrote up there na. No way, you can only resort to insult.

Procashtips:
Again, tales by moonlight.

Post the evidence stating that Benin Kingdom conquered the Aworis which led to them pay tax to the former.

Is this too hard to do?

Which evidence do you want again? All the available history books of more than a century old recorded so. The only book that is saying otherwise is the one written by Ereduawa II less than 20yrs ago.

Blitzerz:
Gorilla is even better than your generation
With your toothpaste brain

Scumbag!