zombieHUNTER:


we know Benin people originally owns Lagos

no history book written by a cone head will erase it

FreeStuffsNG:
Oldest history books say Yoruba not Benin founded Lagos



https://punchng.com/oldest-history-books-say-yoruba-not-benin-founded-lagos/

FreeStuffsNG:
Oldest history books say Yoruba not Benin founded Lagos



https://punchng.com/oldest-history-books-say-yoruba-not-benin-founded-lagos/

Procashtips:


Who's this?

Oga,why were the Aworis paying tax to the Benin Kingdom if they were no war between both parties?

It's on record that the Aworis paid isokale to the Benin Kingdom.

This is a known history even though you guys are trying all means to change and twist history.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/oba-of-benin-remains-head-of-traditional-rulers-edo/%3famp

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/

Beuberry:

Let's start with this.
What's the meaning of Olokun, Ayelala & Ogun? Shey na Ondo Yorubas teach una again?
Don't you reason that Benin was the most distant to aboriginal Ile-Ife thereby making them the most distant & out of touch? That's why they v similar culture to Ondos. Anyways tell the meaning of those guys above cos you v to tell me where Benin inherited or manufactured them. I m a daughter of fact & history.
Adesuwa means Ade has good character. It can also mean Adesewa. It's originally an Ondo name cos they are the ones that called iwa (character) as uwa. Ade-se-ewa, Ade-su-uwa in syllables. Oya break it down in Benin word.
If Benin's aren't idol worshippers wetin animists dey worship? Anyways that's bone of contention.

Thebadpolitican:



The full name the Benins gave lagos is
Ekonuame= the camp around waters

Thebadpolitican:



Read this

The historian who first came out with such a fallcious statement that the oba of Benin heads were being buried in Ife, was a benin historian with the name Dr jacob Egharevba.
Egharevba earliest work is a mix of oral traditions and speculation which he corrected in his later works, however as a matter of fact it's a traditional practice in Benin that kings of the various vassals state, under Benin control would come back to bury the previous king heads in Benin in order to notify the oba that the previous monarchy was dead this journey to Benin can only be carried out by the incoming successor who will stay in Benin for months or years to learn the ways of the Benins before going back to take his father's position as king. however this practice was never a tradition in ile-Ife as no other of the supposed oduduwa sons had a burial site making it suspecious and fallacious from Egharevba who was equipped with the Benin oral history and had mix oral tradition of the Benins with his imagination to forge the orun oba ado tradition which he termed in his book `Ile Ife the final resting place of the oba of Benin' Egharevba had writing with no consultation or whatsoever and was not even close to the palace to begin with, his works lacked referencing other than just pure selfish intrest he could derive from the then watern region the edos where under at that time, Frank Willet a french historian did an excavation on the very orun oba ado site in 1969 hoping to find some truth in what yoruba belive to be an historical site, all nine site the excavation took place was empty and nothing was found in them it is of most importance to note that at the time the supposed myth of oromiyan visit to benin, her name was still called igodomigodo and not yet ado that originated from oba ewaure a long distance predecessor of oba eweka 1

Beuberry:

So you know Ekaladerhan was a forged history. Anyways Orun Oba Ado existed for a reason. In future, there ll still be more evidence of Benin coming out of Ife. Oranyan in Benin isn't a fallacy. Yorubas aren't dragging Benin to be their junior by force. In fact, the two tribes can be separate cos I dislike undue insults am seeing Benins throwing at Yorubas. And na dem go lose pass the day Nigeria splits cos it's a landlocked state.
One of the evidence of Ife-Benin connections can be found in the artworks of Ife bronze and Benin bronze. Leo Frobenius unraveled Ife bronze n terracotta in 1925 in Ile-Ife. The artworks are so similar to Benin art except that Ife artworks were more naturalistic (looking more real). Also, theirs a narration that towards 15th century, Oba Oguola sent for casters from Ife to teach Benin artisans cire perdu. It's so obvious both tribes shared ideas looking at the artworks.
In all, I think the disagreement of Benins in the correlation of their history with Yorubas deals with them trying to be of their own independent nation which is normal.

Thebadpolitican:


Do you know benin have a strong cultural presence in ekiti and ondo, benin conquered those areas you're half baked in history don't call yourself names you're not entitled to

Ask why ayelala is only found in edo and ondo

As for the olokun it is there in my screenshot it says the worshipers of other orishas in the town of the ondo they are in would come to their house to join his parents who are Benins to watch in amazement the process of olokun worship

This link would also explain the presence of Benins in ondo

This is the link to my screenshot if you insist on reading it whole... You should!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://edofolks.com/html/pub70.htm&ved=2ahUKEwiV3-eO4PDpAhU6AmMBHaZeCvAQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2O2tdvNLC9WstfBOJD11C3&cshid=1591573439261

Benins and yorubas are almost very different

The way edo state is close to a yoruba state is just thesame way kogi state is also close to a yoruba neighboring state, but yet
Yoruba in kogi state still retain their yoruba Ness so why is that of the Benins different if we were truly yorubas proximity can have a little effect but no a whole effect on a tribe that is entirely different from another tribe

Raf4:


Orun Oba Ado shrine is very much available in Ile-Ife till today. You can go to Ife for verification. It has always been there for centuries. You can also Google it.

lawani:


Benin are Edoid people while Yoruba are Yoruboid. I think Edoid is the most concentrated component of the YEAI language group while Yoruba has substantial infusion of Nupe, Hausa, Kemitic Egyptian, Bariba, Fon and etc. If you remove all those from Yoruba language, then ninety percent of what will be left will be Edoid and Igboid words. The old Benin city was Yoruboid like Warri but it is now Edoid. The Edo were in the suburbs of Benin city but the old Benin city of over 50k people was no different from Warri in the past. The woman is wrong to say her ancestors were not Yoruba. My own maternal grandmother's family in Ipetu Ijesa the Alawiye family are from Benin but it was the Benin that was like Warri and if they spoke Edo at all it would be as a second language. The oriki of Alawiye family is omo onile ni Ado. People who are landlords in Benin (Ado).

Raf4:


Orun Oba Ado shrine is very much available in Ile-Ife till today. You can go to Ife for verification. It has always been there for centuries. You can also Google it.

Raf4:


Why didn't they establish another Ekonuame around gelegele or Asaba or Escravos or Warri or Ilaje etc that are very close or easier to access for them? Only to go over 400km aways to already occupied land that were surrounded by equally powerful Kingdoms like Ijebu, Ilaje, Dahomey and Oyo empire etc. Bini never named Eko. It's Ereko that it's being pronounced Eeko and finally Eko.
This is very common in Yorubaland eg Eba-Odan to Ebadan and finally Ibadan. Oso Igbo to Osoogbo and finally to Osogbo etc

Thebadpolitican:


LOL those places you mentioned were under Benin control

Try search Asaba relationship with Benin on goggle, if Benin was not stop the empire would
Have occupied what is know as Nigeria now including the north

Stoplying:
Eyewitness writen precolonial text stating clearly that Lagos belongs to Benin:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5806879x.r=Y%C3%A9bou?rk=21459;2

Precolonial map of the region showing that Lagos (in its currents form) and its environs were part of Benin (see below)
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2


Conclusion: Lagos and its environs were part of Benin.

I am not interested in debating things which have already been proven. Also I am not interested in talking to people whom have been harrassing me. (I also want to add that I am actually the only person whom has commented here who actually speaks french and that I am the person who posted the french caption and the book from which it is to nairaland. Some delusional people who don't speak a word of frecnh were trying to "debate" me on the translation of the text several months ago. Fools can only fool other fools.)

OyinO:
Oldest history books indeed. Neither the Benin nor the Yorubas are first to settle on that place called Lagos.

Ghostagain:


The truth is that there is no way if knowing which set of people was in a location first, the question doesn't even make sense.
Founding a kingdom and bring the first people to live on a land are 2 things which Nigerians don't seem to be able to differentiate.

Let me make this clearer to all: no human being can prove his specific group of people were the first to live in a certain geographical zone. It is possible that the Zulus of Southafrica were the first group of human beings to live in Lagos. It is possible that that it were a community of Chinese who were the first people to live in Lagos.

But the question is who founded Lagos ? And the answer is Benin.

OyinO:


Lagos was not founded but was used as a port city by the Portuguese. The Benin people were only co-settlers with other groups that also settled on the islands in that geographical area.

OyinO:

The Yorubas only used their close proximity in nearby Yoruba areas to flock in and takeover during and after colonial administration.

Ghostagain:

Where did you get this info from ?
You see me bringing out evidence, and you come here to give me an unsubstantiated story ?
The first maps of the region show Lagos as being part of Benin, not as being a Portuguese settlement!