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youngpresidooo:
for that I have been careful to lay emphasis on that if you follow my discussion. But indirectly or directly you must have learn maybe by reading books or anything.
But that is not what I am talking about.
What I am saying is that was TB joshua ever born again?
He hasnt been able to say yes to this till he died. He only said he was born again from his mother womb which negates God's word....
He has to be born again to lead people to christ. How will you lead people to who you don't know?
He never gave his life to christ based on his testimony

Mention one prophet from the Bible that gave his life to Christ?

youngpresidooo:
lolzzzzz you funny. Like lose member ?
Do you know that David ibiyiome was from winners?
Still comes to winners. Oyedepo isn't scared to lose member to him.
Oyedepo attends redemption camp, he is not scared of losing members to them. I can continue mentioning. Then it is TB joshua with much arranged miracle [b]that no one can boldly come out and say he got healed from the [/b]church that they will be scared to lose member to. Come on say another thinf

Yet testimonies flew from all countries in the entire WORLD WIDE!!
It can pain sha

damocool:
The scripture never recorded that. But was Jesus never baptized? Weren't the apostles commissioned? If the testimony of TB about his salvation was that of being saved from his mother's womb, then something is wrong somewhere. Who baptized him? Or he was equally baptized from his mother's womb. All testimonies we hear is giving of materials, no one came up to say he or she met Jesus, got saved under his ministry. The core mission of christ on earth was to reconcile sinners to God which he actually commissioned every born again christian to do..

Mention one prophet from the Bible that was baptized?
Teach me

youngpresidooo:
when heads of states and governor's died did they send any message of condolence to those family? Why is TB joshua different?

Because they are in same Christendom
You keep asking questions like a layman no wonder you are so quick to be brainwashed

lookingfly:
I don't want to call names but you should be able to see a video on YouTube of a Nigerian mog that made those comments.

Okay

youngpresidooo:
like I told you records of John the baptist was not really detailed in the bible firstly. And secondly john the baptist was not even in our dispensation. Including Jesus sef. The resurrection of Jesus christ gave birth to our dispensation.
Now all what Jesus did was to teach us all what was important. Even Jesus talked about tithe, but he only made reference to it once and only said there are weathier matters eventhough it is right. You can read it yourself

Even Jesus taught us about love
"How do say you love me that you have never seen but hate your neighbor that you see"
"Pray for your enemies and even for those who don't love you"

A word of prayer to the evil man by the self-acclaimed saints will be fulfilling the scripture
Or a word of condolence to his wife and kids will be comforting
"Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted"

Willzkid:
The fact that you will even mention old testament figures shows that you don't understand the Bible or what "born again means"...
I'm sorry, these are foundation/new convert class stuff

It was in the old testament that we had more prophets
Yarn another thing jo

youngpresidooo:
this is faulty.
Infact from statistics tb joshua is not even among the top 3 most influential pastors in the world from nigeria
I can bring many journals and links none sees tb joshua as top 5 sef

This is one
https://www.legit.ng/1192745-most-influential-pastors-world-who-updated-2021.html

Confusionist!!
Is Tbj a pastor?

lookingfly:
I've even said he was drinking tea with the God and even said if you don't pay tithe you're going to hell

Lol
Please who said this?

Babinski:
The desperation of some of you TB Joshua apologists is appalling!

Even if they believe TBJ is a demon from the pit of hell, atleast a common condolence to the wife and family the Deceased left behind would have gone a long way to lead them through to the right path and to show-case that example of LOVE which is the very essence of the Christian faith.

Haba! Can you imagine a Christian stating the above and feeling comfortable saying it? What has light got to do with darkness? So if a Babalawo or Juju man dies now, CAN or PFN should pay condolence visit to show love?! Haaa!

As you are going, you would even ask God to send condolence message to Satan when Satan loses some of his disciples and demons just to show what you label as LOVE!!!

But Tbj sent condolence to Adeboye when he lost his son and asked his congregation to pray for the family

And yet,Tbj is the evil one and Adeboye the saint?
Even the Bible says we should pray and love our enemies

youngpresidooo:
all you listed were never in the dispensation of grace and eventhough they weren't they had an encounter. Notable one.
Moses met God while he was a shepherd hope you remember the fire burning and the leaves weren't burning .
Same with Elijah, and so on.

Was It that encounter that converted Moses?
That encounter was God sending him on an errand, my friend
Tbj had those encounters as well

youngpresidooo:
even Jesus got baptized before starting ministry, went for training in the synagogue from pharisees n sadducees sef

John the Baptist that started the baptism,who baptized him?
Who taught him?
Where did he go for his training?

youngpresidooo:
oga I never insuinated what u wrote.
All I say is that his story of being a christian or how he said he is a christian is not biblical.
And if we should go by bible, Tb joshua was never a christian

Sharap!
I'm a female and you refer to me as oga?
You too, madam!

If we should go by the Bible, you are a hypocrite and a condemner!!!!!!!!

Willzkid:
There is nothing like being born again from the mothers womb... it is not biblical
This statement equates him with the Lord Jesus Christ who is the only one born of a woman without sin....it is outright blasphemy brother, and I say this with so much love

Where did John the Baptist born again?
Moses?
Prophet Elijah?

Denn:
Should we not be tired already of people who form stories and say ‘God told me…’?

I tire o
When it's them it's fine, when it's someone else they begin to doubt and criticize
Hypocrites!!!!

youngpresidooo:
spiritual life is different from physical. It is easy to act by flesh. There are good act that we display that we do that are even against God and have repercussions.
I will cite a true life story that happened.
It was in Ekiti around Adebandele in Ado-ekiti.
There was a renounced building for ogboni that caught fire, one good christian who felt she should show love took bike and was rushing to call the fire service, guess what? She had an accident only God saved her. But guess what God told her, he said always listen to me before taking actions,how will you want to put off fire that I set?
I paraphrase according to her, when God is dealing with the wicked never try to help or else you might put yourself into trouble.

Mr self-righteous,cry me an ocean!
You've been crying since yesterday

So Dare Adeboye is the righteous one that God didn't kill cos of his sin?

He died at his early age and in his sleep, remember?

Mikecold:
Nobody would ask why T.B Joshua isolated himself from the fold of those men of God

If everyone is wrong only you is right what does that tell you

Even the preachers that are not in CAN and PFN how many did Joshua share bond with

You must be high on something!

When Adeboye lost his son, Tbj sent his condolence and even asked his congregation to say a word of prayer to the family.

Why shouldn't Adeboye do same, eh?
Respect is reciprocal, my friend!
God is love and love is God!

dgudlyf:
If you listen to Bella Shmurda's new hit song "Party next door", Omah Lays 'understand' and you still call Laycon's song wack...then you are a real bad belle and enemy of progress

Sharap!
Bella Shmurda and omah lay have hit songs and already cashed out with them

Wait till laycon gets a hit song and cash out like his colleagues in the music industry

Tiil then, keep hyping your nursery rhymes

Well,I don't know what you people watched Sha

The best for me was
Esther
Naomi Mac
Eazzie
Kpee

Kitay was just screaming unnecessarily
Ini would have delivered more than Nuel Ayo

youngpresidooo:
And funny enough all this popular people all say same story.
Or do they all gather to say same story....

Same stories has been said about
Fatoyinbo
Apostle Suleiman
Jeremiah fufeyin
Oyedepo
Adeboye
Oyakhilome

Yet they don't even perform miracles nor wage war against the forces of darkness
At this stage, you need sleep!

youngpresidooo:
Most of the most popular person's that went to his church allm regretted going from family of Dora Akinyuli, jim iyke, oputa,kaffy or should we say Tonto Dike I can start naming them.
Why?

Sharap!
You wish!

Tonto Dike dropped her condolence
Femi Branch
Timi Dakolo
Iyabo ojo
Many more I can't even remember

youngpresidooo:
lucifer come to your church
Lolzzzz
Who is lucifer if I may ask?

So you don't think it exists?
Smh for you

youngpresidooo:
when many don't read the bible.

Exactly!
This were the true works of a prophet!
Prophets are different from your normal pastors, apostle and evangelist

You should be the one reading your Bible

youngpresidooo:
have you read about yemkem?
His source of his wealth?
Do you think hypnotizing people cares about race?
Yemkem made a lot of money by simply attacking some oyinbos with black magic and then give them a cure to make money.

How long did this magic Last?
So even in his death,he was still hypnotizing people?

This still brings me to the conclusion that he must be very POWERFUL!

youngpresidooo:
Wait TBjoshua was buried in the church?

No
In the mosque

youngpresidooo:
you have said it all.
No one is even accusing him of doctrine but devilish acts
Ok talk about his salvation, no root or bearing at all .
Even if he had said oh an angel appeared to him and so on. Better but not that you are saved from an Alhaja's womb..
Like are you kidding me.
Even Jesus had to demonstrate how born again is important by being first baptized before starting any ministry.

Okay
Who baptized Moses?

youngpresidooo:
convert how?
You see how confuse we all are about his salvation?
He never had an encounter at least none that he spoke of.
He said he was a convert from his mother's womb who was an alhaja.
How?

How?
He was born to do this job
He himself doesn't understand it, but he went along with the WILL

Do you understand now?
Where did John the Baptist have an encounter?

youngpresidooo:
lolzzz and same story is said by everyone who was once a worker in your church? Including your driver?
Same story by people who lived with you in your early life .
Come on na

What story was said? Did you investigate to know if they truly worked with him?

When Jesus arrived Nazareth, they mocked him,' is that not carpenter son'?
'this man speaks of blasphemy,who sent him?'
He has no religion father? When did he give his life to Christ? Why is he greater than the prophets that were sent to us?
Jesus had to depart from Nazareth and NEVER performed any miracle there again cos of the ugly stories people concocted against him.

Go read your Bible, my friend!

Modified: before you can be my disciple, you have to carry your cross and follow me
You think say the cross na bread and akara?
Tbj didn't even die a shameful and humiliating death as Jesus himself did
People like you would have been jumping to the roof, rejoicing and making merry

youngpresidooo:
Go n read the about him n professor pellet, it's all over the internet.
Professor peller's son even had something to say about him

You have been yarning here since and all of a sudden, you want me to go read?

My friend,drop it here lemme dish it to you as e dey hot!

Even Judas Iscariot who followed Jesus yansh to yansh,bumbum to bumbum betrayed him and sold him for a sheckel!
Peter still denied Jesus THREE TIMES at a time when Jesus needed him most!

You never talk wetin dey bite you for yansh

youngpresidooo:
Or did you know that Tb joshua and professor peller were very close in the early time of his ministry, they had a quarrel which no one knew the reason till today?

I thought you were the new ominiknoweth
How come you are throwing the question back at us?

youngpresidooo:
How?
If I gave you testimony of people close to him and are glaring and you count it has judge then fine, could TB joshua avoided all this talks if all the account were true?
Kumuyi had a case of someone from SCOAN. Everyone knew how the life of the lady was ended after how much Deeper life tried to save her and you expect kumuyi to go and say good things about same man?
I still ask you what should Chris have done differently about the divorce issue?

Quit yarning rubbish already!
How long will it take such magic to keep running, successfully?
There are also accounts and stories of people who left Dlbm to Scoan and openly condemned Dlbm.
Is it because tbj wasn't interested on riding on these stories to raise his shoulder pads?


For the bolded,I don't know
He should know
If as a shepherd of flocks of sheep cannot head your own immediate home, what does that say about you?
If there was peace and love in that home, his wife couldn't have asked for divorce
She's the mummy GO and definitely enjoyed every bit that came out from the union
So,if she wants out,it must have been for something grave

If he had humility left in him,he would have sought tbj's help
Cos tbj United so many families and couples
Tbj said it's against the principle of marriage by Christ Himself

youngpresidooo:
so what do you want him to do when his wife said he wants divorce?
We are quick to judge mennnn...
Was he the one that requested for divorce?
And did you see him remarry?

But here you are judging tbj