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 Culture › Re: African Woman Living In American by RandomAfricanAm: 6:25am On Dec 16, 2013*. Modified: 2:06am On Dec 17, 2013 |
True though at this point I fear we have severely derailed the original posters thread  . My apologies Glamrock  Hey, if you're ever down south in Alabama stop by and I'll take ya out somewhere to make up for it  1 Like |
| Culture › Re: What's The Literal Translation Of (north, South, East, West) In Your Language? by RandomAfricanAm(op): 11:37pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
Igbo: East Owuwa anyanwu - 'rising' of the sun (note:Sun in Igbo is anyanwu or anwu) West Odida anyanwu - 'falling' of the sun South  North |
| Culture › Re: African Woman Living In American by RandomAfricanAm: 11:17pm On Dec 15, 2013 |
ooook1. Those are beautiful pictures I love the structures.  2. Tthe diaspora goes all around Africa for history & culture see: https://www.nairaland.com/1455678/african-americans-africa-find-claim 3. Cameroon is very welcoming to the diaspora. African Americans visting...3. What does any of this have to do with any aspect of the DNA test? 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: African Woman Living In American by RandomAfricanAm: 2:39am On Dec 15, 2013 |
Nyumba: if the test says you're 100% Akan of Southern Ghana and Ivory Coast , are you ready to leave Igbos and all Igbo related stuff?Nice pics, I like the architectural style of the traditional homes myself. OK Back on track... That would never happen. Why would that never happen? Because the purpose of the test isn't to tell you if you're %100 [insert African ethnic group here]. OK then what is the purpose of the test? The purpose of the DNA test is to do exactly what the company says it does. (If they don't please show me evidence to the contrary) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6pRVRquljI Dr. Rick Kittles, Co-founder and Scientific Director of AfricanAncestry.com, explains the measures that he uses to determine an ancestry result . . . . Side note: Why would an Igbo leave if the test came back noting %100 Akan? The database does describe the maternal/paternal DNA compositions of people in the surveyed ethnic groups. The database doesn't prescribe the maternal/paternal DNA compositions of people in the surveyed ethnic groups. If an Igbo came up with an "Akan" sequence then that would simply mean there are Igbo out there that share Genetic markers with the Akan. |
| Culture › Re: What's The Literal Translation Of (north, South, East, West) In Your Language? by RandomAfricanAm(op): 1:41am On Dec 15, 2013 |
From your experience what are the aspects of tradition (in regards to pre Oduduwa early history) that people choose to ignore/are ignorant of? |
| Culture › Re: Nigerians Have Very Low Self-esteem by RandomAfricanAm: 12:37am On Dec 15, 2013 |
Scorpionking: you mean your white neo -colonial masters?there you go ...fixed it |
| Culture › Re: Nigerians Have Very Low Self-esteem by RandomAfricanAm: 12:20am On Dec 15, 2013 |
Scorpionking: say no to what?https://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8485567.ece/ALTERNATES/w460/radar-eno.jpg . . . . . . The fact that I had to answer that question says so much about the validity of this thread |
| Culture › Re: Nigerians Have Very Low Self-esteem by RandomAfricanAm: 12:07am On Dec 15, 2013 |
Nigeria this comes from a place of love ...just say [size=16pt]NO[/size] https://dvsl3w2q45hb8.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/SANS.jpg . . . . . . . . . Sigh https://supremecourt.gov.ng/images/slides/slider4.jpg 2 Likes |
| Culture › Re: Nigerians Have Very Low Self-esteem by RandomAfricanAm: 12:01am On Dec 15, 2013 |
| Culture › Re: What's The Literal Translation Of (north, South, East, West) In Your Language? by RandomAfricanAm(op): 11:50pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
Personally I never understood how someone could take east and randomly assume mecca. If your going to go that far why not keep going and skip on over to china or India those are in the "east" also. The Benin prince sacrilised as coming from the sky story stuck with me. |
| Culture › Re: Nigerians Have Very Low Self-esteem by RandomAfricanAm: 10:31pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
MamiWata: Laamb is awesome. My biggest issue with Senegalese is their disdain for traditional spirituality. The only region that has a semblance of respect for the spiritual traditions is in Casamance and they wanted to seceed (sp). Most Senegalese practice a version of Islam that has a lot of African elements (i.e. virtually everything we see in those laamb competitions before the fight starts) but the ones I know show so much disdain towards [size=28pt]ceddo!!!![/size] and other Senegalese traditions. It's really sad. At least Nigeria has universities of Ifa and I even finally met a traditional Igbo! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ipcync79CI (You guys keep bringing up some of my favorite things) . . . . . . Ok back on topic 1 Like |
| Culture › What The Heck Kind Of Medicine Are South Africans Practicing!(to Funny Must See) by RandomAfricanAm(op): 10:10pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
Words can't describe!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFlUOVJyV4I . . . . Note to self: don't get into a fight in South Africa unless a female nurse is on stand by  |
| Culture › Re: What's The Literal Translation Of (north, South, East, West) In Your Language? by RandomAfricanAm(op): 10:04pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
I thought the migration came from the east ...oh wait that was oduduwa. I forget people were there when he came. Never read much about the peoples plight prior to that point . I can see that, similar to how the AE kept note of/referred to where they came from... "we came from the beginning of the Nile were God Hapi dwells, at the foothills of the Mountains of the Moon" |
| Culture › Re: African Woman Living In American by RandomAfricanAm: 9:36pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
Nyumba: And what if you find out you're not Igbo?Elaborate please |
| Culture › Re: Nigerians Have Very Low Self-esteem by RandomAfricanAm: 9:26pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
I'm also liking Morengy in Madagascar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNwKdXNwuDg . . . . . Ok back on topic |
| Culture › Re: Nigerians Have Very Low Self-esteem by RandomAfricanAm: 9:19pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
Fulaman198: I agree with you about Cote D'Ivoire but not necessarily Senegal. Senegal still has their [size=24pt]Laamb!!!!! [/size] wrestling which has taken off. They play much more traditional music than Nigeria does. They speak their languages like Wolof, Fulfulde(Pular Fulani language), and Serer better than French. Nigerians take pride in speaking European languages more so than their own languages. Senegalese don't have such inferiority complex. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-Dy8n23yAM This is not about total destruction. Its like chess but with fighting skills. you have to make masterful decisions based on patience. Its nothing like western fighting. These men have families to go home to. Its not about stomping a mans eye socket out. The western world will bring you the blood and violence you're looking for. This is more about respect, skill and not destruction. . . . . . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHr4ekIq2HQ |
| Culture › Re: Snow In Cairo, Egypt For The First Time In Over 100 Years by RandomAfricanAm: 8:16pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
which means during the ice age the Nile delta and a sizable portion of north Africa would have been quite cold and not a choice habitation. I didn't think about snow/ice reaching down that far. https://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w513/Amunratheultimate/Misc/Climate-controlledoccupationintheEasternSaharaduringthemain.jpg https://i.imgur.com/WZaJe.jpg.png |
| Culture › Re: What's The Literal Translation Of (north, South, East, West) In Your Language? by RandomAfricanAm(op): 5:34pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
Yoruba gusu and Ariwa are interesting I'm curious how such terms came to be noted with those directions. is there some "ogun" or "esu" related site(storied or physical) to the south? "sighted before coming" does that have to do with the stars at night or something(like the "north star" ) ? |
| Culture › Re: What's The Literal Translation Of (north, South, East, West) In Your Language? by RandomAfricanAm(op): 5:26pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
Yoruba: East Ila oorun - riseing sun West iwo oorun - setting sun South gusu - combination of "ogun" and "esu"(note: Ogun is the father of esu) North Ariwa - "sighted before coming" or "envisioned before coming" |
| Culture › Re: Nigerians Have Very Low Self-esteem by RandomAfricanAm: 5:21pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
@Fulaman198: The self hate in this thread is debilitating man . . . . https://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/gif/1b2157e533492e78297c16e6cbe1dfceb91d191.gif 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: What's The Literal Translation Of (north, South, East, West) In Your Language? by RandomAfricanAm(op): 4:36pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
Thanks To be clear: language translation: Native - literal:english - formal:english 1. Ila oorun - riseing sun - east 2. iwo oorun - setting sun - west, 3. gusu - ?? - south, 4. Ariwa - ?? - north. . . . . . Let me try a different format East Ila oorun - riseing sun West iwo oorun - setting sun South gusu - ?? North Ariwa - ?? 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: When the Arabian peninsula was Northeast Africa(for The Anthropologist Among Us) by RandomAfricanAm(op): 1:09pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
^ Bump |
| Culture › Re: Nigerians Have Very Low Self-esteem by RandomAfricanAm: 12:46pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
Quick history lesson from a previous post enjoy) RandomAfricanAm:[s]osystein: Why do people take pride in being the first people, doesn't that fall into racists claims that certain people are more primitive and less evolved than others?[/s][s]No because that idea hinges on the notion that the "material progress" we see today is predicated on the human genetic evolution of some set of people ...which isn't true, or at least verified. |
| Culture › Re: Nigerians Have Very Low Self-esteem by RandomAfricanAm: 12:35pm On Dec 14, 2013 |
Fulaman198: There's a difference between learning and utterly copying everything that isn't you. Whatever happened to originality ? Whatever happened to being oneself^^ This ("African solutions for African problems" doesn't negate use of foreign knowledge & process it simply suggest an African configuration of them) 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: Complaints And Notice Thread. Be Serious! by RandomAfricanAm: 7:36am On Dec 14, 2013 |
Just so you guys know: Every time I come to my "following" page I get a warning about this website This website has been reported as unsafeIts been doing this for a while now. |
| Culture › Re: African Woman Living In American by RandomAfricanAm: 7:23am On Dec 14, 2013 |
My personal favorite are people who will argue that 1 + 1 = 2 when you state 6 - 4 = 2. Now that is a whole nother level of funk and also why I didn't want to indulge the who is a real African discussion he was going for. Not that I don't want to have it but because there are some base assumptions that have to be accounted for before you go in and not everyone is upto those interrelated discussions as partly described in the arithmetic statement above As my English TA once said you can compare apples to oranges but you have to **first agree on what aspect is being compared** |
| Culture › Re: African Woman Living In American by RandomAfricanAm: 3:10am On Dec 14, 2013 |
Nyumba: Let's put aside the DNA tests.No Why?: 1. Because that is my point of contention. 2. Because the rest of that is "ultimately irrelevant" RandomAfricanAm: Why is that "ultimately irrelevant"?. . . . . . . . Note: We can agree to disagree on the DNA(or anything for that matter) I don't want to **win** I want resolution. I don't do "academic debates" I have conversations with people. |
| Culture › What's The Literal Translation Of (north, South, East, West) In Your Language? by RandomAfricanAm(op): 2:31am On Dec 14, 2013 |
Question: What's the literal translation of (North, south, east, west) in your language? Why? I'm curious to see if any people orientated themselves according to the sun rise/sun set(which are much more obvious markers for global direction) prior to Europeans coming in and declaring north was "up". Context: This is a pretty random observation but I was looking through alternative world maps and noticed they were all political reactions to European ideas I.E even though they were changed those changes still revolved around Europe ( sorta like "black atheist" running from the white mans religion but still orientating there direction based on those ides they're running from. *That's not even noting they're just running from one european idea to another instead of finding their own way* ). I immediately thought of the Egyptians orientating their construction by way of the rising sun(life) on one side of the Nile versus the setting sun(death) on the other; with the flow of the Nile denoting that... "we came from the beginning of the Nile were God Hapi dwells, at the foothills of the Mountains of the Moon". Now those are my immediate knowledge on Ancient Egyptians thoughts on direction. (Side note:I also thought of how the Japanese considered that they lived in the "land of the rising sun"  Those thoughts made me wonder how other groups of Africans viewed the different directions in there life. (Didn't the Yoruba have a story about one of the Orisha casing another Orisha by following the sunset into the underworld) Reversed_map http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversed_map https://www.laetusinpraesens.org/docs10s/images/fantasy_files/world_upsidedown.png A reversed map, also known as an Upside-Down map or South-Up map, is a map where south is up, north is down, east is left and west is right. Thus the Southern Hemisphere at the top of the map instead of the bottom. These maps are just as accurate as traditionally oriented maps, because the position of North at the top of maps is arbitrary. Such maps have been made in several cultures and time periods. The convention that North is at the top (and East at the right) on most modern maps was established by the astronomer Ptolemy[1] and was adopted by other cartographers. In modern times, reversed maps are made as a learning device or to illustrate Northern Hemisphere bias. Different from simply turning a north-up map upside down, a reversed map has the text oriented to be read with south up. Uruguayan constructivist artist Joaquín Torres García created several works depicting a map of South America with the southern point at the top. Gall–Peters projection http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gall%E2%80%93Peters_projection https://i.imgur.com/7YFteui.jpg (Green:Gall–Peters projection / Black:Mercator projection) The Gall–Peters projection, named after James Gall and Arno Peters, is one specialization of a configurable equal-area map projection known as the equal-area cylindric or cylindrical equal-area projection. The Gall–Peters achieved considerable notoriety in the late 20th century as the centerpiece of a controversy surrounding the political implications of map design. Maps based on the projection continue to see use in some circles. In 1967 Arno Peters, a German filmmaker and historian, devised a map projection identical to Gall's orthographic projection and presented it in 1973 as a "new invention." He promoted it as a superior alternative to the Mercator projection, which was suited to navigation but also used commonly in world maps. The Mercator projection increasingly inflates the sizes of regions according to their distance from the equator. This inflation results, for example, in a representation of Greenland that is larger than Africa, whereas in reality Africa is 14 times as large. Since much of the technologically underdeveloped world lies near the equator, these countries appear smaller on a Mercator and therefore, according to Peters, seem less significant. On Peters's projection, by contrast, areas of equal size on the globe are also equally sized on the map. By using his "new" projection, poorer, less powerful nations could be restored to their rightful proportions. This reasoning has been picked up by many educational and religious bodies, leading to adoption of the Gall–Peters projection among some socially concerned groups, including Oxfam,[6] National Council of Churches,[7] New Internationalist magazine,[8] and the Mennonite Central Committee.[9] 1 Like |
| Culture › Re: African Woman Living In American by RandomAfricanAm: 1:07am On Dec 14, 2013 |
Nyumba: mmm... Do you know that many white people travel to Africa, especially French-spaking Africa, than they place there, and then they start calling theirself Africans?True, but ultimately irrelevant. Why is it true?(I'll make it simple) Because those people actually exist and I can also go to many Anglophone countries and find the same things from the spawn of colonist. They are free as sentient beings to call themselves whatever they want, same as I'm free to call them what they are ...part of the European branch of humanity who are citizens of African countries. Again... https://researcher.watson.ibm.com/researcher/files/us-bacon/class_hierarchy.jpg Just as a cat is a more specific incarnation of the abstract notion called "Animal"; a Nigerian, African American, Oromo, Afro Brazilian, etc are more specific incarnations of the abstract notion called "African". This "African" is simply an umbrella term for a collection of histories and cultures or what is commonly called heritage. Those Europeans may intersect those histories and cultures but they are not of those histories and cultures which stretch down through history into the Green Sahara and beyond not reconnecting back to east Africa for something like 60kys. Now if someone doesn't agree with that assessment ...so be it(shrugs) Why is that "ultimately irrelevant"? Cause the purpose of the DNA test isn't to let you "know you're African" or not  (Note: this is the nonsense I'm talking about people! You can't just claim that a person did something the person never did then attack them on the grounds of the fictitious claim) Nyumba: ...and probably (99% of the possibilities) the results are fckd up, like "You are Mande from Sierra Leone, Mandinka from Senegal ( Senegal is mostly Wolof) and Igbo from Nigeria"... these results are a joke...Again... 1. The DNA test do exactly what the company says it does. (If they don't please show me evidence to the contrary) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6pRVRquljI Dr. Rick Kittles, Co-founder and Scientific Director of AfricanAncestry.com, explains the measures that he uses to determine an ancestry result You can keep attempting to tip toe around Dr. Rick Kittles explanation above on how the system works but until you deal with what is before you ... https://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/031/7/2/you_shall_not_pass_road_sign_by_replicantcomplex-d5terv3.png[/quote] |
| Culture › Re: Hair Design by RandomAfricanAm: 3:27am On Dec 13, 2013 |
*Cough* fake *Cough* Damn cute face though ...she's pretty |
| Culture › Re: How Priorities/culture Change As Kids Grow Up by RandomAfricanAm(op): 3:05am On Dec 13, 2013 |
Now that I think about it a good example would be a friend of mine from kenya who worked on his PHD in the same lab as me when I was a student researcher. He had a wife who was a dentist(Though they wouldn't let her practice in the U.S without going back to school) and a new born baby. You could see them working as a unit to help each other build their future together. Now the people who grow up here have this random idea that you're suppose to do all this work by yourself then go out and get this spouse you now "deserve" because of all the work you've done. The idea that you can build that future with someone is lost on them cause they aren't told how to be of use to your spouse and how that spouse can be of use to you. It's like they get in a relationship to not be alone or cause they are getting old. In that type of head space sure they wont "care if a woman who treated them like crap when they were young like them now that they are doing well." Cause in their head as long as she's physical attractive she serves the only purpose he's certain a woman is good for. Now why would he think that? Cause someone failed to tell him the qualities of having a good woman on his side and what they can do together ...for themselves, and their children. https://www.nytstore.com/assets/images/extralarge/NSAPFS7_EXTR.jpg |
| Culture › Re: How Priorities/culture Change As Kids Grow Up by RandomAfricanAm(op): 2:10am On Dec 13, 2013 |
luckily my folks set a good example of how to work together to manage a home ...but some folks really need to be sat down and talked to. |
