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Tosyn007: How were they getting the Senju cells?

WackyJ1: I THOUGHT we already attempted to clear this up before. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BREAKING FREE FROM THE CONTROL OF THE EDO TNESEI USER AND BREAKING FREE FROM THE TECHNIQUE ITSELF.
Take for example the people we know that have been put under the edo tensei
1, Itachi was broken free from the control of nagato by Shisui's Mangeykyo but when Kabuto released the edo tensei, he was still taken away.
2. Harashima broke free from orochimaru's control instantly
3 So did madara but just when he was about to be taken away too by the release of the edo tensei, he had to use the hand seals to break himself away from the original technique itself. So now he remains, if Orochimaru releases his edo tensei, the first hokage would go along with the other hokage if they do not know the hand seals but Madara would still remain because he is not bound to any technique.







You're still asking all this when you have seen what orochimaru and kabuto have done on their own to uncover the secrets of the ninja world, even madara was surprised at what kabuto knew and was asking him whether he was able to decipher what was written on the tomb stone.
Madara was alive till the time that he killed himself meaning that he was there when tobirama invented the edo tensei, he must have seen it in action and he must have deduced the workings of it atleast how to do the jutsu. The rest of how far he can go with it, was up to him, while others labelled it as kinjutsu and probably stopped it's use, madara may have continued to experiment with it up until the inevitable question came:

"How do i make a summoned soul stay even after the jutsu has been undone"
The question is now whether you think the answer to that question can be found by madara or not, even i believe that if orchimaru has concentrated he would have found the answer to it.

Also you have to consider that Madara lived way longer than Tobirama infact tobirama died in his youth, he wasn't that old yet. So wondering why he can't break free or why he hadn't figured it out is akin to asking why minato the inventor of the rasengan cannot do the rasenshuriken


Look how easily you gave up your stand, now i see why attributing stuff to plotholes is easier for you

Tosyn007: It wasn't used to save them, it was used to punish them, as I said earlier, Senju cells were only needed to strenghten their chakra and not a primary requirement for the jutsu to work, cos of their powerful chakra which Itachi doesn't need for Izanami since he's was in Edo Tensei, and if Senju clan members are being taken for this reason, don't you think that woulda spark an endless war?

firestar: One, here we clean our own mess. Mods who are hardcore Otakus would testify. So fear not, the youthful Will of Fire burns. (Don't get burnt)
Two, I am Kunoichi and the following ANBU level and above are my bros.
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so.

Tosyn007: Go read the Kabuto vs Itachi/Sasuke fight again and listen to Itachi's explanation, and that goes for you too, Kimco.

kimco: I don't think dats all he's got. Anyways now it'll be useless

kimco: I don't think dats all he's got. Anyways now it'll be useless

Tosyn007: Sorry I'm late, I had to go do some diggins and here's what I found...Tobi said Izanagi is jutsu of the UCHIHA that requires the power of both Senju and Uchiha to perform the jutsu, I think the the Uchihas can perform the jutsu, but they need the Senju cos of their Chakra and life force to perform it effectively so their chakra won't get empty or even die of chakra exhaustion...remember the uchihas used to use this jutsu anyhow in the former days before it became forbidden, would you now say all of them have Senju cells in them?

yorettyna: 7. SOSSUSVLEI, NAMIBIA

yorettyna: 10. door to hell, derweze, turkmenistan

Feraz: 1. The sharingan is awakened during your first battle. It is the mangekyou sharingan that is awakened from the loss of a close one.

Feraz: Awwww. You forgot so quickly. His first real battle was with Haku.

hariorh: I like Tobirama. He's one of my fav characters.
Yes he created Edo Tensei but in order to learn how to break from it, he has to die na... not so? All so, it was considered a forbidden technique and so he would rather pay less attention to it than use it in battle and as a result disrespect the dead. Even Orochimaru said Tobirama never perfected the technique. So how would he have know the secret for breaking free from it?

Hashirama's chakra level alone broke him free from Edo tensei. Madara lived longer than him and most likely detected the secrets of breaking away from the technique.

kimco: oboy if u don't continue i'll curse ur a..s.s u can't leave this on a cliff hanger and jux let it go like that. U're unto something and i wanna hear it.

Let me try and see what i can do about madara's knowledge on edo tensei. Madara lived longer than tobirama and also has been experimenting alot. It's safe to say he found secrets to jutsu even the inventors didn't. but that's my two pasewas.

kimco: hahahahhahahahah, infinte genjutsu, lol. Anyways what that dance ? I'm ghanaian so i don't really know it. A link to youtube cud help.

firestar u're great...if only u participated in the debates more often. I wanna hear ur views.

kimco: haven't u heard...kishi can make that happen. So jux call upon him and madara would be dancing the azonto like nobody's bizniz. Even better....his loyal fans would defend it to the death. U're covered firestar.


Hold on...are u a female...if u are then u're the first female i've met who likes manga/anime. That's great.

Tosyn007: WaS IT kISHI THAT Told you one require Uchiha and Senju Dna and the other does not? Neither requires Senju Dna, its purely an Uchiha jutsu..

WackyJ1: I hate all this plothole nonsense, go and read through all my posts in this topic and see if i have ever mentioned plot holes or even acknowledged their existence, Talkless of using the concept of plot holes to explain anything, i believe that once we're in the naruto world then we argue or debate facts with the information at hand assuming all things being equal calling for plot hole is just a cheap and easy escape.

You keep looking for plotholes in this naruto world, i wonder if you'll also be looking for plotholes in the real world too.

Ihedinobi: Did you or anyone else know about chibaku tensei before Pein used it?

KazeKage1: Bro. I don't need the lengthy gist. I read up on it "after" Itachi used it. My question is: Did YOU or anyone else in Naruto-sphere know about it before Itachi used it?

Feraz: izanagi or izanami I even refuted that ish. That is one place I still can't accept cos Kabuto was whooping their asses

Baddestguyp: do u mean the anime or the manga cos the anime has stopped since 2012

KazeKage1: 1) Izanagi.
2) How is Madara the ONLY shinobi who knows the hand seal(s) that breaks the edo-tensei hold whereas the inventor of the jutsu doesn't know or hasn't used it

Baddestguyp: dont get u guys. I tot bleach anime was stopped in 366?

kimco: congratulations...u're now on my ignore list. Hunter x hunter started b4 naruto started. Don't mistake more panels for deeper story pls. Because more of naruto's panels cud have been cut short with less flash backs. Besides the writer of hunter x hunter got ill and had to take a long break. Hardly took any breaks when he was active. Fma: brotherhood has also ended and didn't drag on to make cheap money like some mangas i know *cough* bleach *cough*. But i won't trouble myself...when u bring better argument to the table...i'll take u seriously. These eyes u're talking plenty plenty have no bases in the manga. They are not explained, ergo, jux fanboy rumblings.

kimco: congratulations...u're now on my ignore list. Hunter x hunter started b4 naruto started. Don't mistake more panels for deeper story pls. Because more of naruto's panels cud have been cut short with less flash backs. Besides the writer of hunter x hunter got ill and had to take a long break. Hardly took any breaks when he was active. Fma: brotherhood has also ended and didn't drag on to make cheap money like some mangas i know *cough* bleach *cough*. But i won't trouble myself...when u bring better argument to the table...i'll take u seriously. These eyes u're talking plenty plenty have no bases in the manga. They are not explained, ergo, jux fanboy rumblings.

KazeKage1: There's only so many trolling you can do before people take you less seriously.