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Ihedinobi: You remember that Naruto had to build up chakra more than once on that battlefield, right? Plus if Naruto could give out chakra - the Kyuubi's chakra - why would he not be able to receive chakra too from another Kyuubi host at that? Shikamaru didn't need to see the exchange between the two halves of the Kyuubi to know that one could replenish the other.

rapmike: Listen 2 urself saying wat u r saying. So because shikamaru is super smart,he can not draw blanks? Or he mainly has 2 draw blanks cos naruto wants 2 shine? Now dat is d most absurd ting i hav heard 4rm u. Shikamaru has suddenly become all wise dat he cnt be at lost of wat 2 do? Ok tel me hw shikaramu drawing blanks is a plot hole. U jst simply want 2 discredit naruto,dat wat u r doing. U alway complaining of naruto being 2 ovapowerd,blah,blah, i wonda if shikamaru, who has neva been 2 a war b4 nw kips pulling tactics 4rm his btm lyke battle hard dude cnt be considerd as a plot hole.
D simple fact is dat shikamaru is overwhelmd at d magnitude of d facts of d war so he cnt kip his cool as usual, it happens 2 intelligent dude u knw.
As 4 d dumb ish, i was refferring 2 ur statement,nt u

kimco: i didn't see ur apology, i saw tosyn's but not urs. Where is it...i wanna see.


Intel in the ninja world is what differentiate between life and death, winning and losing. U must understand that. Never downplay the power of intel. People kill for that even in real life.

Also i don't mind naruto winning his fights....looooved his fight against neji...but he shud be winning his fights convinsingly. As of now....it's a bit iffy. Who still watches the chuunin exam arc..i know i still do....those were the tyms.

kimco: I think everyone would agree with me if i stop debating with this guy. Too much personal influence with this guy. There are a lot of holes in ur post so large that even a whale would slip thru...but i won't debate u...cos u're not ready to involve urself in a healthy debate.

U shud calm down.

kimco: He's not only doing that...he's also mixing it with bijuu dama. I don't buy that.

Yep u're right, that why in addition to the toads intel...there was a slug on his shoulder feeding him off the rest. That's why he knew whom to attack first and what to use.

Doesn't matter if hidan was straight forward...he still cudn't die and he was skilled, he fights jinchurikis for christ sakes. Took shikamaru to know his secret, commended by kakuzu, after studying him even under intense pressure. Tricks are surprise attacks, none of the jutsu, bar chibaku tensei, was a surprise. He was briefed about them and even the God realm wasn't functional then. pain used like 6 jutsus, that's not many.

Pain used six jutsus 2 take down d whole village and dat was nting abi? Or d lvl of power does nt count.

Point three- kakashi helped him kill one heart of kakuzu. Hidan was still alive. That didn't help. Infact...that was used to save kakashi's life rather than help himself against hidan. he killed hidan...alone. He dragged him away alone, set him up alone and killed him alone.


100 percent correct,no arguments

Point four- i'm sorry what! Watch the fight again...naruto had the toads helping him plus even hinata joining the saving grace team. Two sages, four fully grown and skilled toads against what! Five paths who had their powers read out aloud for the world to hear, with a sixth one who wasn't fuctional yet. He had no tym to put them into analysis? But didn't we all agree that naruto was battle smart...jux not on the level of other highly skilled ninjas? When u have detailed infos like that and a council behind u and so much power at ur disposal, if u can't make out what to do then u're beyond stupid and shudn't be called a ninja at all. Even chouji and kiba would know what to do with that much detail and power. And oh their powers were detailed to the T. Unless ofcos u wanna argue that (u know how we do it). Even the time delay in god realm's power was detaild.
God this part had me laughing. Chouji and kiba ke? Do u tink dos guys IQs r dat gud?
And again underrating d power of d paths of pain cos naruto beat dem. Wonda y d saving grace team did nt take down 1 pain at least(konohamaru took down 1 nw)

Didn't matter even if he had tym to plan....still didn't mean it would've worked, jux like kakauzu showed him. It took courage to have taken a guy like hidan on for a guy with limited power like him. If he had so much power like even sasuke, i would've agreed with u. Even kakuzu thought shikamaru was a goner...preparing his obituary and all.
Acceptd

kimco: I'm not really blaming u, jux appauled nobody rebuked rapke for calling me dumb... When i remember being rebuked for calling someone silly.

kimco: First point- u seem to be forgetting something...the two chakras of both nine tails to perfectly sync...how was he to know that they'll do a perfect sync....how was he to know that nine tails chakra in minato was usable....nobody informed him of anything? In order to make analysis, shudn't u have infomation? U think he had tym to be looking at minato and son when his section needed his help as well. He was busy himself. Besides like i said....didn't that sharing thing run out....according to him it wasn't even an option cos it was used up. Funny part about the rice sharing, hahahah.

Point two- it's a plot hole....dude....jux like i keep saying...things are jux too convenient for naruto to shine.

Point three bolded point- i'm not repeating what u said.... I'm making a point that he too can draw blanks like any other human. But that shudn't be used to debunk his intelligence atall...cos he too is battle smart. Glaringly obviousthings? Like i said.... U're an omnipotent reader....his condition of reasoning isn't same as urs, don't compare urself to him atall. Do it to other characters in the manga.....no not naruto....thats plot no jutsu. Lol

Kaycee7: Kimco never said Naruto was a useless character. He said, and I agree with him,that Naruto is overrated and over-favored.

Kaycee7: If Shikamaru was in Naruto's shoes, he'll say " What a drag! Nobody notices me or cares about me. Anyway it's such a bother to worry about dat. Let me just lie here & watch the clouds"
And let me add that if Shikamaru was made a Jinchuuriki with dat insane IQ of his, he would be almost unbeatable.

Kaycee7: If Shikamaru was in Naruto's shoes, he'll say " What a drag! Nobody notices me or cares about me. Anyway it's such a bother to worry about dat. Let me just lie here & watch the clouds"
And let me add that if Shikamaru was made a Jinchuuriki with dat insane IQ of his, he would be almost unbeatable.

kimco: This is childish bickering. U haven't done well urself with the way u present ur comment. But let me not stop u from ur assumptions that i'd prefer kiba to naruto. Stating the plot holes now makes me a hater of a fictional character? this isn't naruto fanbase, and ur insult isn't appreciated atall. Like it or not....naruto has to steal the spotlight because he's the main character...even if the writer has to dumb down other to do so, including the bad guys. And uptil now u or tosyn haven't provided argument to say otherwise. So get to providing ur point instead of insulting me and adding nothing of substance atall.

kimco: Errrm...what are u talking about dude. naruto didn't pass the exams simple as dat...that was waaaay b4 he went with away jiraiya. In the mission to save sasuke shikamaru he was their leader cos he was a rank ahead of them. He was made chuunin cos he made the right decisions while naruto fought and fought jux so he cud be recognised. shikamaru lost and was still made chuunin, end of story. What happened the next year was a non issue cos we're talking about that very chuunin exam
Naruto faced kakazu with others, jux like with pain, not alone. Shikamaru handled hidan alone. Make of it what u may but hidan is an immortal so he can afford to be stupid. The way he even drew him away was jux brilliant. Work of art.
Shikamaru complains but even sakura admits he holds everyone's life dear to his heart. He refused the guardian offer jux so he cud be close to those he loved and protect them. U don't seem to know him quite well. His whinning is jux a front, when it comes to the real deal, he steps up.

And yes, shikamaru will definitely draw blanks. I mean how else do u expect kishi to make naruto look good. Smart a.s.ses need to look dumb. How wonderful is it that some how everything fell in place for naruto's intelligent move....that his father's inner 9 tails awaken at that very tym, that it'll sync perfectly(understandable, but the first point is bull). For Christ that's outrageous. U can swallow that, but i can't

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Gantz
Blood C+
bezerker
rononin kenshin
feng shen ji
shingeki no kiyogin
claymore
gintama

Ihedinobi: Lol. Shikamaru is an analyst. Naruto is a foot soldier. Go figure