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jason123:
I am for Eziachi!

you are a hypocrit. what is the difference between onlytruth and eziachi? onlytruth is more nigerian, bold and modern, that's all

na wa o. people don't know that there was a time university education was completely free in Nigeria.
these thieves would never allow poor people survive  

^^
Okija_juju was kicked to the curb by the umunna very early in the process.

what happened to the licenses issued earlier?

Nnenna1:
I'm from Anambra state and have never heard of this whole "Northern Igbos looking down on Southern Igbos" thing.

nne welcome to nairaland cut throat politics. quite shameful i must add

hmm, interesting thread. onlytruth has been at it for long

Gbawe:
My brother, you must understand that Jonathan speaks like this as a weak leader innately given to dereliction of his Presidential duty and shying away from tough decisions.

State Police forces will still be under the federal Republic of Nigeria so kini big deal as far as federal might exercising effective control over all Police forces in Nigeria? . Do Governors not currently use the Police force partisanly in their State anyway? Why deny serious Governors like Amaechi and Fashola the right to develop a modern police outfit that can cope effectively with the peculiar security challenges of their State? Must everyone continue to pay for the mediocrity, gradualism and lack of ambition of poor administrators like GEJ?

If GEJ is committed to delivering strong instititutions (and the appointment of Ringim is clue he is not) he will focus more on how any abuse will simply be checked effectively by the centre. Jonathan is a man who does not want 'wahala' and this is why he preempts event by thinking the worst rather than be the sort of proactive leader who can birth reform, innovation and take bravely radical yet necessary decisions . This is entirely defeatist from GEJ but not unexpected .

was wondering the same thing.
what are they really afraid of here? they need to tell us the truth.

gowon looked like antelope, ojukwu looked like lion

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=819196.msg9708974#msg9708974 date=1323200494]Gowon didn't have to. Someone ran away faster than speedy gonzales.[/quote]take a close look, then compare

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=819196.msg9708783#msg9708783 date=1323198930]Everyone does not participate in your multiple moniker crap. Okwute Egyptians piafuka gi &&&&

btw, that Onlytruth is a relentless biafran. I'll love to meet him in a boxing ring and beat the crap out of him.  He deserves the title since you people have rigged out Dede and Eziachi.[/quote]do you think that Gowon could have beat the crap out of Ojukwu at any time? the way i see it, you are like gowon while Onlytruth is Ojukwu kpom kwem! you wan try?

Aigbofa:
A good insight, devoid of fairy tales of betrayal and superhuman heroism.

but there was betrayal everywhere in the profs account. he betrayed ojukwu serially. he spoke with ojukwu in confidence and still went to tell gowon everything irrespective of how ojukwu trusted and loved him.

[quote author=aloy/emeka link=topic=816541.msg9681965#msg9681965 date=1322866329][size=14pt]Achebe, Igbo abroad honour Ojukwu, make souvenir[/size]
on DECEMBER 2, 2011 · in SPECIAL REPORT

Literary icon Prof Chinua Achebe has promised to roll out some of the most sophisticated insights on Biafra and Ojukwu and his role in Biafra as a benefitting tribute to the ex Biafran leader.

In a statement through his son Chidi to Saturday Vanguard, the message said, “We must be patient and wait for Prof Achebe’s new book There was a country: A personal history of Biafra which you will see contains some of the most sophisticated analysis and insights on Biafra, Ojukwu and his role in Biafra. I can think of no more fitting tribute than telling the truth about Biafra for posterity.”

Indeed, the three great personalities of the war had met at the Chinua Achebe Colloquium last year. They were Ojukwu, Achebe described as the most articulate of the civil war and Wole Soyinka who was jailed in Nigeria for negotiating peace with Biafra by then head of state Gen Yakubu Gowon.

In the United Kingdom, and elsewhere, memorial websites have been opened for Ojukwu. One of the sites is in the UK listing areas necessary for the memorial, its links to news on Ojukwu and Igbo among others.

In the USA, Prof. Olu Oguibe one the most influential artists and art historians from Africa, has designed a memorabilia for Ojukwu and is on sale on eBay. On his facebook wall, Oguibe wrote, “ I’ve just made these for those who’d like to wear our pride and grief on the sleeve! Wish I could make them more special, but I’m way too busy at the moment with deadlines and last minute changes to God’s Transistor Radio. Buttons are available now on eBay for those living in the contiguous US. For compatriots and friends elsewhere (Nigerians, Biafrans, Africans, Others), hopefully you can find one where you live.”
Also on Facebook, several groups doing one thing or another have come up, all displaying Ojukwu and his life or using the Biafra images. In fact, many African and Nigerian websites are abuzz with accounts and news of Ojukwu.[size=14pt] It is perhaps the biggest thing on the internet today.[/size]

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/12/achebe-igbo-abroad-honour-ojukwu-make-souvenir/[/quote]i would not be shocked if that is the case. the ikemba is making huge waves ~~~~~~~~~

occam:
What issues? kindly tell us. The war happened over 40 yrs ago so you need to tell us about this unresolved issues all these years

BTW you still haven't answered question. What did this man do to impact positively on the lives of Igbo people between 1982 - till his death? He returned to Nigeria in 1982

so the world started in 1982? lol
i rest my case with you. those who don't learn from history are DOOMED to repeat it.

your brother could have struck a deal with the assassin to even help the assassin kill you and share your properties after your death (like abiola and obasanjo helped the north foil awolowo's election). your brother stood firm and rejected the offer (like Ojukwu did) . he could have died trying to save you. he didn't run away. he remained faithful to you until death. few humans have such brothers.
igbo and easterners were lucky to have such a brother.

occam:
ok then. I'm a Nigerian of Yoruba descent [/b]and grew up in Lagos [b]Now will you answer my question

fine, i would be shocked if you saw it any other way.
some of you just refuse to say the truth about what ojukwu stood for. you would rather fly this "ONE NIGERIA" nonsense without addressing anything ojukwu wanted addressed in nigeria. you think you can make a nation by lying to yourselves and everybody. i'm sorry we igbo don't think like that. the issues we raised in Aburi in january 1967 remain unaddress in december 2011. anyone who thinks nigeria will ever be one without addressing those issues is a big foool.

occam:
I assume you are an Igbo man or woman. If so, list 3 positive things this man did to improve the lives of igbo people or advance a united Nigeria

i would not answer you until you tell me your own tribe in nigeria.
if you are igbo, then you are the biggest foool ever created by God.
if you are a SS minority, then your fooolshness goes off chart completely
if you are yoruba, i would say 'true to type".
if you are northerner, i would say "not surprised one bit".

let me show you how stoopid your question is.
one day an assassin came to your house and swore that you must die that day.
you were almost dead when suddenly your brother showed up with a superior gun and chased away the assassin.
now my question to you.
would you be alive today if not for your brother that saved you? no is the answer. who can ever do anything greater than that for you? even money could not save you that day.
end of discussion
now crawl back to cave

IYA NGBALI:
why should Nigeria give him state burial when he did not believe in Nigeria.Let the so called[b] biafrans give him a state burial.[/b]

+1000

and that is the way it will go.

[quote author=okada_man link=topic=815768.msg9681166#msg9681166 date=1322857665]As usual people have ignored the larger lesson of History, focusing instead on unimportant minutea.

What did we fight for in 1967, do we have it now?

Is this country even defined? What is our national ideology, what makes a Nigerian, a Nigerian?

Why should any of the ethnic nationalities choose this Country over say Cameroon, or Benin or Niger?

What is the purpose of our collective association within this particular space? Why are we together?

What did 1M+ people die for in the Civil War?

Do we have it now?[/quote]the most important question which remain unanswered after 1967. this is 2011. it is still unanswered and people keep deceiving themselves

occam:
Please grow up and stop this silly praise worshiping. How exactly did this man impact your life in any positive way? List 3 positive things he did for Igbo people.

He's dead now and Nigeria can forget about the most dreadful and miserable time for our country

and that is how you would wake up in 2015 to see a worse situation because you are too cowardly to see facts as they are. go ahead and sweep it under the carpet! it is nigerian tradition. yet you expect change! lolz!

Posted by: DRANOEL

the actions ojukwu took before their going to ghana were actions against the state and as such a declarationo f war befor verbally declaring seccession or can you explain to me what they were doing at aburi?

Aburi Conference Date:
Between January 5th and 7th 1967

Biafran Declaration of Independence: Tuesday, May 30, 1967

On 6 July 1967, Gowon declared war and attacked Biafra



so can someone help this dunce make an informed conclusion.   

dayokanu:
^^ When your lies were found out you quickly changed directions?

If he stopped believing in Nigeria, why did he contest for NIGERIAN senate? If he stopped belieing in Nigeria, Why did he Contest for NIGERIAN presidency

I laff in 10million votes

it really doesn't matter whether you believe that nigerian elections are fair or not. this is not the thread for it.
show me which nigerian dead or alive that is making the type of waves ojukwu is making.
i don't even remember the year awo died. i can't remember the year zik died either.

when gowon reneged on aburi accord and declared war, ojukwu's belief in nigeria died as those of millions of igbos.
are there igbos who still believe in nigeria? yes, but are they up to 5%, i doubt it. if you doubt, ask them to choose in a referendum. if you get less than 95% yes, let it be considered a failure.
the best honor to ojukwu is to wrap him in a biafran flag and bury him. end of discussion.

dayokanu:
So only Ojukus elections was rigged? how come the riggings didnt prevent Awolowo from winning his SW or FALAE

So rigging was only designed for Ojuku?

Stop lying to us. Ojuku can never get 10m votes anywhere.

He got a meager 1.2m votes and didnt win one single state. Even Ribadu won a state yet Ojuku couldnt

i'm really trying to say that ojukwu stopped believing in nigeria in 1967
all these other talks are irrelevant. he believed in nigeria up until 1967. fullstop.

i'm telling you the whole truth.

dayokanu:
Awolowo, Falae etc at least won in Yorubaland if not Nationally

Ojuku couldnt even win in his Biafra states.

[b]ordinary Senate elections he couldnt win, Presidential elections he couldnt win a single stat[/b]e

i hope you don't believe what you just typed. elections were rigged and i would give you are hint.
in the presidential elections ojukwu came second or third with MILLIONS (about 10 million) votes. now go and think about that.

lagcity:
you don't get it, do you? this isn't about losing elections. I was trying to expose Biafrans who keep lying that Ojukwu hates Nigeria and would be insulted by state burial. STOP misrepresenting Ojukwu gademit!! If you said Achebe would be insulted by state burial, I would agree with you. But Ojukwu? hell no! Ojukwu who didn't feel insulted when he was collecting pension from Nigerian army, why the hell would he be insulted by state burial?

lol, it is you that don't get it.
yes, ojukwu spoke in riddles a lot since he returned from exile. he was conscious that there are people in nigeria who wanted him dead. so he was careful until much later when he figured "what the hell" and dared obasanjo to try arresting him. ojukwu is not the type to drop a conviction. he was a "SCORPIO" (horoscope). go and read about people of this sign. all the remaining part of his life was spent indirectly mocking nigeria's insincerity. even that pension thing was part of it. remember, he wanted to receive a general's pay? do you think it was because he needed the money? NO it was to prove that the "no victor, no vanquised" thing was a huge joke. gowon promoted himself during the war and recieved his pension. ojukwu would not be allowed to do the same.
you are not igbo, that is why you cannot understand the power of speaking in riddles. it is one of the most powerful weapons elders use in igboland.

sheyguy:
[b]the ibos r king when it comes to blame-game of biafra crap. The north hates them, SS r sabotuers, the west betrayed them. [/b]They r just too good at this blame game of a thing, yet it was an ibo man who supported the idea of one nigeria first.

why not acknowledge what the article by a foreigner is saying, which is basically the truth? who has been vindicated by history according to what the article said? stop all these local yard talk. ndigbo don't care what anyone thinks anymore.

ocelot2006:
Did someone say saboteurs in the south-south? Did we ask the igbos to drag the minorities into the seccession plan and biafra?

nobody asked anyone in the east to be targeted and murdered in the north which forced many of our people to run to the east. It was a collective decision by easterners through the eastern house of assembly to declare biafra. some of the leaders of the fight were people from your area (akwa-ibom). there were saboteurs everywhere including igboland.
the more some of you try to isolate the biafran struggle as igbo struggle, the less others believe you. if you doubt me, just wait until there is another war in nigeria, (which is almost certain going by the way things are going). we (ndigbo) would be more concerned with ourselves. if ever we do anything with minorities in ss , they have to lead it.

as for a national honor or state burial for ojukwu, the great man would be greatly insulted by it.
he is dead remember? there is nothing anyone can do to him now. he has entered a safe realm of immortality.
he is far greater than any nigerian in the history of nigeria.
a biafran flag is the most honorable thing that anyone can wrap ojukwu's coffin.

the same reason why ojukwu lost the election is the reason why awo lost. the same reason is why olu falae or any afenifere or awoist kind of politician would loose too. these are people who know the truth about nigeria and would change it if given the chance. it would never happen. that is why a thief like obasanjo won instead.
jonathan is the closest we have come to true change in nigeria.

lagcity:
I think Ojukwu would have wanted a state burial knowing his flamboyant personality and how vain he is. He seriously craved Nigerian honor, unlike Chinua Achebe.[b] Remember that Ojukwu sought the highest honor in Nigeria when he ran for the highest office of President in 2003. [/b]So people saying he wouldn't want it are just deceiving themselves, we don't believe you.

you don't know Ojukwu, that is why you are saying this
Ojukwu wanted to prove to nigerians that they are lying to themselves about nigeria being one, that is why he ran. he knew he (or any igbo) would never win.
most of the time ojukwu spoke in riddles. he would say things like "awolowo is the best president nigeria never had", knowing fully well that awolowo never believed in nigeria himself. so how can you be president of what you never believed in as awo did? so, you see. nigerians are lying to themselves. i bet you that is why a lot of people in nigeria don't understand ojukwu.
Ojukwus belief in nigeria died in 1967.