₦airaland Forum

Mrfeel:
A call to go back to regional government was brought to the Senate one Yoruba senator stood up and said the Senate should kick against going back to regional government cause regional government is same thing as given the igbos biafra

Ironically the call for regional government was the strongest in the south West, when Jonathan and PDP were in power, now they are in power they don't want the regional government. It shows you the insincerity and deception in the calls for regional government.

ogaemma:
They claim he is not educated.
But see how God is using him to move for the Liberation of a whole nation.
Whereas the so called educated ones have become house boy's to politicians.
This is a good time for the Niger Delta Republic to also start their own Liberation.
Remember Isaac Boro declared the Republic of Niger Delta long before Biafra was declared.
The problem of Nigeria is the fraudulent British Amalgamation.
De-amalgamate NIGERIA today, all the problems will be solve.
I hope a peaceful REFERENDUM will be possible.

How is God using him? Is Nigeria not an independent country? What power does Britain have to decide the de-amalgamation of Nigeria?
Please small small dey talk rubbish

odudueffiom:
So it's British government that will give them independence 🤣🤣🤣🤣...
Dumb people

As in ehnnn they are just a bunch of unserious people.

yommen:
Dey fight, dey kill your people in SE, dey lock dem in every Monday.

You don't have sense

Kdon2:
Col unegbe was killed because he was the amourer. He was not part of their confidant in the coup. If he had been carried along he would not have been killed. Tell me one ibo politician that was killed in the coup. Yet they killed both Yoruba and Hausa leaders. You are been expectedly dishonest ☹️

Bros take it easy with the lies. There was never anytime Col Unegbe was an armourer. He never held any command position as Quartermaster General. You even hanged yourself that he was not part of their confidant in the coup. That alone is clear evidence that the coup was never an igbo coup.
Again the igbo coup theory fails with the membership of Major Ademoyega, Captain Adeleke and Lt Fola Oyewole among the participants and planners of the coup. You my friend are the dishonest one here.

9gerian:
I choose not to describe you with the befitting words that come to mind but know this:

I have met very few people who argue claiming Ironsi introduced a unitary military government but did not remove regional autonomy by appointing military administrators. This is wildest claim ever

By the way, here’s the subject of the thread in the screenshot below. I know you still won’t comprehend.

Autonomy in a country is of three types, personal Autonomy, Political Auntonomy and Economic Autonomy. In a military regime the civilian rule is replaced with military leadership, but that never meant that regional autonomy was removed, because the other two components of autonomy were left intact.

Please stop this argument because Ironsi never destroyed regional autonomy as the structure of the regions were still intact.

9gerian:
So where did the destruction of regions come into the argument.

Why not act intelligently by reading the subject of dispute in the thread and aligning your arguments for or against accordingly instead of creating a topic in your head and trying to force your unsubstantiated/unsupported opinions on others by gaslighting and calling them liars.

Bear in mind that you are also calling all the african archives, journalists, historians and documentary evidence referring to Ironsi as proscribing regional autonomy and introducing a unitary system liars just to suit your baseless narratives and attempts to rewrite the history. Very watery take indeed!

From here on you will need to consult a lawyer to enlighten you. I hope he charges you for wasting his time too!

Try to stop talking stupidly

Oga you are not intelligent, stop being stupid and forming half clever. The argument is here Ironsi did not destroy the regions, it was Gowon, you are a bigoted tribalist and you are desperately trying to sell a theory that is dead on arrival.

ivandrag0n:
My father died a shameful death, so shall i also.

Amen and Amen 1000 times at least one less tribalist and bigotry has been removed from the face of the earth

ivandrag0n:
Too late for you to deny. The Nigerian Army has already been notified of your post! In a matter of days, you’ll feel the full wrath of the law, you UGM terrorist/killer!

Oga if you like edit my posts. The real post is there and I never for once said anything against the Nigerian army. This response will also show that you are the one lying here.

ivandrag0n:
There is no hope for you. Your only hope is for the Nigerian Military & Police to dispatch you to your father Satan in hell very quickly! So shall it be!

If you like edit my posts 1000 times, you are still the same frustrated dense individual.

ivandrag0n:
Shame on you, coward! You’re denying the evil you’ve been doing, right?

You don’t know what you have coming for you yet!

Bring it on if dem born your papa well.

ivandrag0n:
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Truly, your case is helpless! Who did you and your father offend?

Let me guess…..it is the blood of the many people of the SE that you (REALTRUTH2023), your father and your fellow ESN UGM TERRORISTS MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD that is afflicting you!

It will also afflict your entire generations after you!

If you like edit my posts 1000 times. The real post I made is there and it bites you seriously.

9gerian:
The key word here is autonomy and federal that are , synonymous and interchangeable as resource control. Notice that Ironsi’s decree 33 proscribed the political parties and various ethnic associations that negotiated the independence as a first step of dismantling the structure. Then Ironsi’s decree 34 in section 1 stated that Nigeria ceases to be a federation, and even goes on to change its name from the Federal Military Government to National Military Government in section 2(1)a. It doubled down removing Federal from the Federal Capital Territory and renaming it Capital Territory in 2(1)b. This intentional stripping of autonomy continued in 2(1)c & d and so on. It was emphatic and unambiguous.

Every learned and enlightened person understood this, including the international community, council on foreign relations, etc. It is not even debatable once properly assessed as I have shown you here.

All of these was to strip Nigeria of its regional autonomy.

Again, if you are still in doubt, consult a lawyer.

Dude stop trying to be clever by half. Military rule is autocratic meaning the order is given no doubt. But the argument here unless you want to be a liar, is did Ironsi destroy the regions? The answer is No, even within the regions there was autonomy even under military rule. There was council of chiefs that still played an advisory role to the military governor.

9gerian:
Ha! This is unbelievable

So you don’t know or understand that the military administrators appointed by Ironsi took their powers from an autocratic military dictatorship of Ironsi and therefore cannot be said to maintain regional autonomy that derived its powers from the people through democratic means.

That you are arguing this way suggests serious deficiencies in your capacity to analyze problems for root cause and possible solutions.

This is serious!

So what essentially is your point. All military dictatorship is autocratic. The crux of the argument is did Ironsi destroy the regions? The answer is No. You are just trying to be half clever so that you can stick to the theory of blaming Ironsi.

Bros go and rest these games are stale, social media has exposed you people with jour fake patriotism whereas you are knee deep in close tribalism.

ElSudani:
Second Niger Bridge.
I guess Onitsha is now a no man's land as well. This was built by the Federal government.

Grow up and stop talking like a child.

NgeneUkwenu:
Peter speaks English like someone who didn't attend primary school. The man is very dull, very slow, barely literate and deficient in honesty.

How is he dull? You have not even made any sensible statement to counter what he said. Leave your bigotry for once.

Anither563:
This is a classic case of economic illiteracy.

How?

yoruboid:
Nigeria dodged a bullet

This man is d@ft and bereft of ideas

So the mess we are in at the moment is what? Stop being stupid.

Salewa97:
Peter Obi is just being petty with his statements.

How can you be borrowing money to pay another debt?

That's a reckless statement from him

How is he petty? Oga you should be more sensible naaaa

Kobojunkie:
Peter Obi would have devalued the Naira as Cardoso had done and then borrowed money -- taking even from the foreign reserves --to shore it up like Cardoso had also done?

Try and use your sense. Borrowing to defend Naira as PO suggested is different from the borrowing in this administration.

Tareq1105:
You're right, just as his age mates are singing nzobu nzobu and dreaming of Biafra and leflendum leflendum every day and night, and thinking of no other thing than to produce fake drugs to kill the users without conscience.

Oga stop being childish and accept the failure of this administration

Saidfx:
Initiating money laundering moves with a country less than 140 thousand people..it is well with this vultures

You are the only one who is seeing the real motive behind this visit.

elder1002:
Lagos state should be a country on its own.

Back to back to back

Their governor's Always delivers.

I also celebrate good news.

It is unfortunate that you guys do not see beyond semantics. Ask yourself what benefit does Grenada give to Nigeria other than being a safe haven for looted funds and second citizenship.
There was a Nigerian elite that celebrated her birthday in Grenada and guess who graced the event? Our governor Sanwo Olu.

ivandrag0n:
Wao! Confession time.

It is late for me, as my father was a chronic lunatic.

There's no hope for you.

Anatolia:
The truth bro is that Nzeogwu and his guys killed politicians from other regions except ibos. That gave an ethnic character to the coup and since then it has been bloodshed. Never start a thing you cannot finish. As I said I support the ibos because they are highly industrious people and Nigeria would benefit a lot if these guys are allowed to blossom. However, the truth is that some ibos in the early post-independence period started the problem.

An igbo senior military officer was killed. If you must know by 1964 the NPC/NCNC coalition was dead. Even Zik at a point refused to accept the results of the elections that caused the wettie crisis.
The principal actors at that time were mainly Yoruba and Northern Politicians Sardauna and Akintola the main actors. Saying that no igbo leader military or civilian was killed is actually a big lie, as the Quartermaster General of the Army Lt Col Arthur Unegbe was killed. And the lie that he held keys to the armory makes no sense as Quartermaster General does not hold armory keys.

ivandrag0n:
Thanks for the confession about KILLING MEMBERS OF NIGERIA’s ARMED FORCES & POLICE.

I am sure they will get your IP address and or trace you in other ways that they usually use and send you to go and join your fellow ESN UGM killers.

Oga this attempt is too hollow. Can you show us my original comment? You are really mental

ivandrag0n:
There is no hope me. My only hope is for the Nigerian Military & Police to dispatch me to my father Satan in hell very quickly!

It will happen for you soon.

ivandrag0n:
You are even abusing the mods again? Your case is indeed hopeless!

Please can you show my original post? Let all the world see whether I abused the Mods or it is you that isbediting my posts to lie. Oga you are a mental vase.

ivandrag0n:
You see your life outside? Your life is completely wrecked. No hope for you.

You are so desperate to edit my posts. Oga do not land yourself in jail because you will be asked to show my original comment you quoted.

Kdon2:
Your arguing a fact speaks volume about you by the way. No matter how you try twist it, ironsi started it. He changed Nigeria system with decree 34. I know this 8s an attempt like twisting the ibo coup as not being ibo coup but Nigeria coup. But the slowpoke coupists killed Hausa and Yoruba leaders only and the only easterner was not ibo. ☹️

So are you telling me that Ademoyega, Captain Adeleke and Lt Fola Oyewole were all igbos? Their participation is a clear indication that it was not an igbo coup. Also the lie that no igbo military leader was not killed also failed with the killing of Col Arthur Unegbe.

ivandragon:
Check who you quoted very well and write that imposter's moniker correctly...

Dude go and seek medical help

9gerian:
How can there be regional autonomy when decree 33 was used to ban political parties and associations who were the constituted authority by the people for the people to manage their regional resources?

Refer to decree 33 sections in frames 1,2 & 3.

Thereafter, decree 34 in sections 1, 2(1) c & d finalized who controls the regions (Ironsi) through appointed military administrators. That was it, the genie was let out of the lamp, and has since refused to go back in through successive government’s whether military or democratic.

Banning Political parties is not regional autonomy bro. Stop trying to be half clever you are doing a poor job at it. It was definitely a military regime that controlled regions and were the military rulers autonomous in theor decision making? Yes they were. The logic here is Ironsi kept the regions intact with their autonomy albeit under a military leadership.