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PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:58am On Oct 12, 2024
Christistruth02:
No!!

You bring the Archives copy to prove this one is wrong !

You alleged and you said it was wrong copy of the broadcast

You should then show us the Archived Transcript copy then to prove it


Newspaper and Journal Publication is evidence !!
Oga that publication is a recent publication, there is no transcript there. Stop quoting 3rd party sources verbatim.
Jokes EtcRe: Fubara Vs Wike: Structure Demolition Ongoing (BusinessDay Cartoon) by Realtruth2023: 2:05pm On Oct 11, 2024
ivandrag0n:
My father was a chronic lunatic. I ivandragon is also afflicted with the madness. Please can someone help me?
No i cannot help you walahi your case is beyond redemption. See stay off from Nairaland, stop all this your demented comments where you abuse people's parents to mask your pain. Just go and deal with your problems or go to Cele church for deliverance let them flog the madness out of you.
Jokes EtcRe: Fubara Vs Wike: Structure Demolition Ongoing (BusinessDay Cartoon) by Realtruth2023: 11:29am On Oct 11, 2024
ivandrag0n:
my earlier posts shows that i am a product of incest or prostitution!

my life is totally wrecked as it currently is!

i you come from a messed up family
Chai i feel your pain bro. you father was a disgrace to manhood.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 11:27am On Oct 11, 2024
Kdon2:
It was ironsi that introduced decree 34 that united Nigeria under one federal power. No matter how much you tried it won't change the fact. Deal with that☹️
You are still trying to clutch straws. Nigeria has been a federation after independence, try and look up what a federal power is. Ironsi's unitary decree only consolidated and centralized administrative control of the regional civil service. he kept the regional control autonomous.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:10am On Oct 11, 2024
9gerian:
Ironsi changed the entire structure by ending regional autonomy, which is the resource control the regions enjoyed before Ironsi ended it with the unification decree 34.
see guy you still miss the point. there was regional autonomy. The only thing Ironsi did was unify the civil service thus removing administrative autonomy of the civil service in the regions.
Jokes EtcRe: Fubara Vs Wike: Structure Demolition Ongoing (BusinessDay Cartoon) by Realtruth2023: 10:08am On Oct 11, 2024
ivandrag0n:
that was what my mother, the community prostitute, told me


my father’s mother, was also known as a very notorious runs-mama!
so prostitution runs in your family lineage.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 2:44am On Oct 11, 2024
9gerian:
The best way to dispel a lie or twisted is to provide the truth to dislodge it.

On “hatred for igbos”, the Bible’s principle on sowing and reaping comes to mind. I believe if Igbos chose to sow love today, I am confident they will not have enough room to contain the outpouring of love they would receive from all over the world.

Case in point are the Yorubas who have different nationalities (from Brazil, Trinidad and Tobago etc) identifying with and even claiming their heritage without canvassing or force. Love always win over more love, and not vice versa.
Oga stop saying rubbish with so much confidence. Who told you igbos are not sowing love? You people just chose to say rubbish with so much confidence. There are igbos in the carribean that identify with us also the igbos in Bioko in Equatorial Guinea.
Jokes EtcRe: Fubara Vs Wike: Structure Demolition Ongoing (BusinessDay Cartoon) by Realtruth2023: 9:46pm On Oct 10, 2024
ivandrag0n:
Imagine this weyrey, the child of a slut & the village drunkard, daring to even question someone else! 😂😂😂

Kpele! Since you came from hopeless parents, it is only natural that you’re completely hopeless, you idiot!

Waka pass jor, you retard!
Oga calm down I know you are emotionally pained because your mother was a slut and you were brought up in a brothel.
PoliticsRe: Lagos Government Begs Youths To Join Military by Realtruth2023: 5:03pm On Oct 10, 2024
Ikaeniyan0:
You're reasoning like a kid
Oga it is a fact, you people should realise that times have changed.
PoliticsRe: Lagos Government Begs Youths To Join Military by Realtruth2023: 4:51pm On Oct 10, 2024
jyz200:
atleast its their region
u way leave ur region con hustle for another people region yet they put mouth for wetin no concern you
last general election never teach u lesson
There is no at least. Nigeria is divided along state lines not regional lines. If your ancestral home is not within the boundaries of Lagos, you are not a Lagosian period.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 4:48pm On Oct 10, 2024
ElSudani:
You are the one who would rather try to alter the truth out of dumb tribal loyalty.
You can cry from now till eternity and it wouldn't change what Ironsi did.
Oga hide your face in shame, most of the lies of all the years are now coming to light.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 4:48pm On Oct 10, 2024
Christistruth02:
You already have it
Oga bring the original transcript exactly as it is from the archives not a newspaper publication.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 11:55am On Oct 10, 2024
ElSudani:
What is glaring here is your inability to comprehend anything you read. That is if you have actually read the decree.
Facts are facts, it doesn't change even if you get emotional and cry about it.
Oga have small shame and shut up. You are the one who out of bigotry and hatred for igbos have refused to use your brain.

Try and have sense, people like you should be flogged everyday until you have sense.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 11:53am On Oct 10, 2024
Anatolia:
See, I support the liberation of the ibos in Nigeria but if you go back to the early independence, you would see that pride made Nzeogwu and his cohorts to overthrow a civilian government. Instead of Ironsi to return the government to democratically elected government, he in principle abolished the various regional government. But he did not live long enough to implement it. It was Gowon that then implemented it.
It was never pride. The issue was the ruling NPC party was putting things in place to totally dominate the country. They had instigated the crisis in the West and he had already started to replicate the same problem in the Eastern region by courting Adaka Boro and his cohorts, promising them a region of only Ijaws in the Niger delta which was impossible as the Niger delta has other tribes.
You just deliberately ignored that fact. Gowon crafted his own decree he didn't implement Ironsi's decree. Gowon didn't mention that je was implementing Ironsi's decree rather Gowon repealed the unitary decree. Please lie with finesse and stop denying the obvious truth.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:24am On Oct 10, 2024
sulaak:
Please read the paper that I shared with you. It clearly states that regional autonomy was severed from the regions, and the centre was strengthened.
Oga it is not true. The Provincial administrator has autonomy in the unitary decree. He was only answerable to the military council. This was the same thing during the parliamentary system in Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:23am On Oct 10, 2024
Christistruth02:
How many times do we need to remind you that Ironsi left the Regions completely Powerless to make their
Own Laws and decisions without his influence?


Gen Ironsi with his own mouth announced that he had abolished the Regional Government

Western Regions UK Embassy was closed down because of it !!!
It is a simple thing go to the archives and bring the original transcript of Ironsi's speech let all of us see it.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:22am On Oct 10, 2024
Christistruth02:
Fake News Propaganda



Gen Ironsi abolished Regions and Regional Autonomy


This was the Speech Gen Ironsi gave afterwards and he owned up to abolishing the Region's with his full Chest!!!!

Nobody should change his Story
From Christtruth00 to Christtruth02. Oga until you are picked up by DSS you will have sense.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:21am On Oct 10, 2024
biaframaster200:
I doubt if the writer of this article is not an impostor. IBO. People are desperate. ..wanting to change history by all means.

You can try harder. ........
Aguyi. Ironsi is the originator of the problem of this country.
How are they desperate to change history. Gowon decree is there and Ironsi's decree is there which one abolished regions and created states? Was it not Gowon? So how are igbos trying to change history. Sometimes people like you need to be flogged 24 lashes every morning so that you will have sense.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:19am On Oct 10, 2024
Housing:
Nigeria was a Republic before the Coup yes, but a Federation and practice Federalism. Aguiyi Ironsi abrogated Federalism with Decree 34. When a Republic stop practicing Federalism it is only left with Unitary.

Why did Aguyi Ironsi arrested Adaka Boro through Odumekwu Ojuku?

Adaka Boro decided to secede Niger Delta from Nigeria due to the abrogation of Federalism, which is tantamount to end of regional government.

Aguyi Ironsi arrested Isaac Adaka Boro through Ojukwu and sentenced him to death.
For every action there is equal and opposite reaction.
Again Ojukwu never arrested Boro stop the lies. The army unit came from 3rd division to quell the secession of Adaka Boro. Even Boro himself was not sincere with the secession as he wanted a Niger delta of only Ijaws, so what happens to the other tribes in the Niger Delta?
It was no secret that Balewa was using Boro to cause division in the Eastern region so that he will create a situation similar to what he successfully did in the Western region.
Whe Balewa was killed Boro decided to take matters in his hands.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:16am On Oct 10, 2024
Raf4:
The same people you're referring to also demanded that secession clause be included in the constitution. Today, those who demanded for it do not want to hear about it whereas those who objected to it are the ones clamouring for it. So, what's your point?
See that lie you said about secession clause has been busted recently. In Lancaster during the discussions for independence in 1956. All the delegates including the yorubas there signed a document given to them by the British stating that as a condition for independence, the borders of colonial Nigeria will not be redrawn in anyway. That alone put paid to any talk of secession. It was the British that never wanted that clause because they didn't want the fragmentation of Nigeria so that the French will not come in. Also not that Zik stated in 1964 following the election violence and irregularities that if we cannot stay together let us disperse in peace.
Again another question which most bigots cannot answer is this, how is it possible that one man could overule everyone else who supported secession clause assuming the British allowed it to be included?
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:11am On Oct 10, 2024
Kdon2:
This mumu trying to push odious agenda by misinforming people. Ironsi was military as Gowon. Why segregating them. It started with ironsi period
You are still missing the point, who abolished regions and created states? It wasn't Ironsi but Gowon.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:11am On Oct 10, 2024
Anatolia:
Aguiyi Ironsi set the trend and Gowon implemented it so I will hold Aguiyi Ironsi guilty.
How did he set the trend? Please tell us.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:10am On Oct 10, 2024
Christistruth00:
That was Gen Ironsi's own Broadcast after decree 34
Gen Ironsi owned up to abolishing the Regions with his entire chest
Can you get us the recorded transcript of Ironsi's broadcast. Not the one from a newspaper I dare you to do that.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:10am On Oct 10, 2024
ElSudani:
This is the mistake you and the kansogbo lawyer are making. The Regions were certainly there but they ceased to function as autonomous federating units.
But Oga they were still regions. They were autonomous even in the content of the unitary decree, the provincial administrator is only answerable to the military council. In the regional system was the Premier not answerable to the Prime minister? You guys just wake up and type rubbish.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:07am On Oct 10, 2024
gidgiddy:
This one is busy parading third party comments because he knows that if he parades Ironsi's decree 34, alongside Gowons decree 14 and 15, it will expose his lies
You know the fellow very well. That is what he does.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:06am On Oct 10, 2024
sulaak:
See the research paper from your own Igbo countryman. Ironsi promulgated the unification decree No 34

http://eprints.gouni.edu.ng/2268/1/RENAISSANCE%20UNIVERISTY%20JOURNAL%20OF%20MANAGE%20MENT%20AND%20SOCIAL%20SCIENCES%20%28RUJMASS%29.pdf
Oga stop being dense. We know the name was unitary decree but again did he collapse the regions? No, he lept the regional structures intact. The only thing about the unitary decree was the unification of the civil service.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:05am On Oct 10, 2024
ElSudani:
If you read the decree 34 and think someone other than Ironsi ended regionalism you probably need to go back to school.
What changed under Ironsi was not the physical structure of the Federation but the entire system of government which we still have till today.
Without decree 34 we can still have 36 regions and without any changes to the system of government. Afterall, Midwest region was created was created and the system did not change.
The decree 34 made "federal" in Federal Republic of Nigeria a mere name.
The quack lawyer Rudolph Okonkwo was talking to didn't know what he was talking about.
Bros this your stupidity is glaring how did Ironsi change the entire system, when he didn't even change the regions only the civil service was centralised.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:02am On Oct 10, 2024
twosquare:
Why return to something that won't benefit the political class?...this present system benefits them more for their corruption. Easy to hide under Abuja than put in the work in a regional system. One bloc started it to benefit themselves but lost out in the power tussle. The beneficiary who once rioted because of it gained the system and said wait o, this will benefit us more and refused to let go.

It is a case of the goat taking the bread from the child...the goat won't leave the bread alone afterwards but will run away with it.
Sorry which bloc started it? Try and be bold and mention the name.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 10:01am On Oct 10, 2024
Housing:
May God bless you abolition of Nigeria as a Federation but a Republic was done by Ironsi
Did he abolish regions? That is the question here? No he didn't. The structure was still there he decided that regions should be called collection of provinces, and in hindsight what is the definition of a region? It is a collection of provinces.
You guy claim to be educated, but cannot make deductive reasoning all because you are blinded by hatred and bigotry.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 9:58am On Oct 10, 2024
9gerian:
Exactly. After the coup, the remnants of the government’s cabinet actually tried to continue especially as the coup had been quashed.

Some accounts have it that Ironsi stopped them, and with the collaboration of Nwafor Orizu transferred power to himself under the guidance of Azikiwe who was in constant communication monitoring the ensuing outcome of events.

In other words, the coup did not destroy regional autonomy. It was Ironsi stepping in as a military head of state, and a few months later promulgating the unification decree 34 of May 1966.

The trajectory could have been different had Ironsi remained a professional soldier, and kept the military out of the whole equation after the coup. Well, he took a chance and risked Nigeria’s fragile democracy and with it its development.
Oga stop twisting accounts. Your hatred for igbos will not make you see reason and throw in the towel, yet you are still grasping to the same lies.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 9:56am On Oct 10, 2024
Raf4:
Don't mind them. We know very well who declared the draconian decree 34 and the reasons behind it. One Dele Ologun that wasn't born then cannot rewite the history now. Obasanjo was the 1st president to rule based on the current Nigerian constitution, but you cannot tell us now that Obj is the author of it.
Oga try and have sense. Decree 34 was borne out of the limitations of the situation at that time. Oga stop this show of stupidity and face reality.
PoliticsRe: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Realtruth2023: 9:54am On Oct 10, 2024
Softmirror:
😂😂😂😂😂😂 The Truth is the Truth.
It is your truth and not the truth in itself. Oga your hatred for igbos will be your ruin and the curses will follow you till you die.

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