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MaxInDHouse:
The OP has expressed his opinion that Nigeria should make the move to start a new religion and promote it globally.
https://www.nairaland.com/8076403/nigeria-must-start-new-religion

One thing we must admit is that there is no way we can do so without first considering the existing religions we had before the whitemen came to Africa, all these religions taught that the gods came from the heavens to the earth and that some of them returned to heaven.
So if we agree with our own religion that there has been people who once walked this planet and that they came from heaven and returned to heaven then questioning another religion for saying the same thing would make us a laughing stock!

You are WRONG.

Our ancestors were not stupid.

They never said that the gods came from heaven, which they called the ‘land of the ancestors’

They said the gods came “from the sky”.

Big difference.

MaxInDHouse:
When talking about HEAVEN the Bible made it clear that there are two types:

The HEAVENS: the physical space that we can see through the use of microscope! Genesis 1:1


HEAVEN: the spiritual realm where spirit beings lives! Daniel 2:44

So when Jesus left the earth he returned to the spirit realm where spirits of his kind lives.
This realm is invisible to the eyes neither can we view it through the use of microscope.

So why did he ‘rise up’ or ‘ascend’ to heaven?

Is that spiritual realm up in the sky?

‘Spiritual realm’ suggests a different DIMENSION or PLANE of existence, meaning that you cannot physically fly to such a place. It has no physical location!

So how did ‘Jesus’ supposedly fly there in a physical body?

StillDtruth:
Did you want The Truth? No! So go straight to hell!

Next case.

What is this loudmouth yammering about?

Imustjapa:
What of other religion and their follower?
Is there Heaven for other religion?
What of people that doesn't hear about Jesus Christ till they died?
What of people that are serving the religion faithfully?
Is Heaven for Christians alone?
If Heaven is for Christians alone, what will be the fate of non Christians?
PLEASE ANSWER ACCORDING TO YOUR RELIGION.
IS IT ONLY THOSE THAT PRACTICE YOUR RELIGION THAT WITH GO TO HEAVEN.

Of course you do NOT need to be a Christian to transit to the Afterlife or ‘heaven’.

Even ATHEISTS go to heaven.

Why would God punish you for not believing in Him in your human life when He knows that you will still realise the truth when you return to the Afterlife?

The idea that he will torture you in ‘hellfire’ for being of a different religion from Christianity is just stupid and ignorant.

If belief in Christianity is a prerequisite for survival, then there would have been EQUAL ACCESS to the Christian message worldwide, as opposed to the current situation whereby your country of birth determines your religion.

If you were born in the middle of China or India or Saudi Arabia, you would know NOTHING about Jesus. Why would God torture you for eternity for that?

It’s absolutely senseless.

So Christians are lying by claiming to be the ‘only way’ to heaven.

He need deliverance

MaxInDHouse:
Gravitational forces pulling objects to the earth only affects things that is found within the atmosphere but in the case of Jesus Christ He told his friends:

“You are from the realms below (earth); I am from the realms above (heaven). You are from this world; I am not from this world." John 8:23

So when he finished his earthly mission he suspended all the elements that's prone to gravity in his body so that he began floating gradually as he returns to where he belongs:

HEAVEN!

Heaven is a physical location in the sky, that a physical person can fly to?

Is it a location somewhere up in the clouds?

Or is it another planet in outer space?

Where did he fly to?

HAPPY SUNDAY, ALL.

Can someone please explain the process by which 'Jesus' ascended 'up to heaven' before onlookers.

What manner of propulsion was used in this flight?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Jesus_ascending_to_heaven.jpg/1024px-Jesus_ascending_to_heaven.jpg

Ken4Christ:
You don't know who Jesus is; The Lion of the tribe of Judah. At his appearance, mountains will flee. Kings will hide under cave and calling for the rock to fall upon them.

The only man that conquered death and ascended back to heaven in the presence of witnesses. At the mention of his name, demons tremble.

You can't stand on your feet when you see Jesus.

2 questions:

a) What evidence do you have that 'Jesus' ever existed?

b) Explain the process by which 'Jesus' ascended into heaven at a dinner table before onlookers.

budaatum:
Your inability to converse without the rudeness and insults says what level you are at, and I doubt you'd get anyone to adopt your ideology even if you paid them to.

So good luck. And rather than a religion, consider learning manners.

Will you GET LOST!

Air head.

Anything to worship 'white man'.

Isn't 'imported' always the best in your colonised, programmed minds?

How dare anyone suggest a home grown African religion?

''What will happen to our white master Jesus?''

Mentally colonised robot.

Don't be ridiculous.

Where did Tinubu tell you that he wants to let US and France set up military bases in Nigeria?

You kids just wake up and create useless and stupid content to post on YouTube.

Why don't you do something useful with yourself?

AirBay:
If you don't have money?

If you don't have money, UK is more enjoyable.

The reason is because they have a social welfare system that pays the unemployed a monthly stipend.

The reason they can afford to do that is because they have a population of 70 million with an annual, budget of 2 TRILLION POUNDS STERLING.

obi4eze:
He is saying it because many people have too high expectations when they arrive here.

UK cannot be compared to Nigeria in anything but don't have too high expectations when you come.

You are WRONG about the highlighted.

Nigerian food is better and more nutritious.

Nigeria is more enjoyable than UK if you have money.

Holidays like Christmas are more enjoyable in Nigeria than in UK.

Nigerian music is better than UK music.

The Nigerian film industry is bigger and more popular than the UK film industry.

This thing nearly happened to me in UK when I was there years ago.

In supermarkets you will see these big sizes of tinned meat that look like corned beef. Big chunks of meat. It looked so appetising, and I rushed to pick it up and buy.

Only for me to read the front of the tin and see that it was dog food!

I just threw the tin down. I was so upset!

Fred Ajudua is still around?

And still committing fraud?

I heard about this man nearly 30 years ago, and for the same reason - fraud.

It’s ridiculous.

budaatum:
So, you needed to go to their schools in order to eat? Unfortunately, this is not true. And I bet you did not go to school because you were blackmailed, but because your parents wanted you to learn to use your head and be successful in life.

My paternal grandfather was the first in my family to go to school, and he did not go because he was blackmailed, but because he saw the advantage in having an education. He did not even become a Christian, and continued with his babalawoism till he died.

But if you are so averse to western education, perhaps start by responding in your native tongue instead of the tongue of those whom you claim economically blackmailed you.

You think I’m on your level of self hate and ignorance?

I can speak any blasted language because AFRICANS INVENTED SPEECH.

I will school you and your father on African history of which you are totally illiterate.

Of course the missionary schools insisted that new entrants be baptised as Christians, with traditional religion condemned as ‘heathen, savage and barbaric’ by the colonial looters.

Of course people began to need the British style education to prosper under British colonial rule after they seized the land and resources, and reordered the economy in their image.

Is your head too thick to understand how that occurs?

Do you even know you had an economic system before they came?

And that it was radically altered to serve English interests?

Stating that I was not blackmailed to attend school is what we call PLAYING DUMB, because we are talking of what made our ancestors become Christians, and it WAS because of ECONOMIC BLACKMAIL.

“If you are not a Christian, you cannot attend our “missionary school”.”

You can LIE that your babalawo father attended a missionary school, and was allowed to be a traditional religionist in a missionary school, but EVERYONE KNOWS THAT’S A BAREFACED LIE.

Max24:
Obidients are jokers. Clowns !

They avoided this thread.

I wonder why.

able20:
You be mumu, otherwise, you would have noticed that the Hunger strategy of Tinubu, EPIN PA WA is killing nigerians

But I thought Obidients said they are not feeling the hardship?

That it’s only Yoruba people suffering?

Amumaigwe:
Self deceit is a good opium. A million Tinubus cannot match Obi's record in education. Why would he even attempt to undo Obi's shoe laces where he is haunted round about by his controversial and false educational records from Nursery to university.

Which education?

Village headmaster.

Chicagograduate:
The contract was given to tinubu's accomplice.80%of the money will be stolen and the road abandoned.

Go suck Simon Ekpa’s nuts, you dirty IPOB terrorist.

emkz:
Rufai claims there were 57 active businesses that were impacted. Since he is now the mouthpiece of those businesses, can he list them?

As far as September 2023, talks began with HiTech on the project, where was Rufai Oseni? Why didn't he raise the alarm then, WHY NOW?

While raising the question about Landmark properties and alignment, Rufai Oseni refused to admit whether Landmark violated the right of way. He also did not state whether Landmark illegally utilized the asset in question. He also did not address the fact that only a marginal portion of Landmark was affected.

When the initial propaganda failed, they shifted to EIA and EISA. The Ministry of Environment already said they issued a waiver. But Rufai Oseni, who requested access to the audited books of someone's private enterprise, is not satisfied.

He also claims the owner of HiTech is Tinubu's personal friend. Does he want us to discuss his boss' personal friends and associates? Did they not give media protection to Emefiele, Okowa, PDP and Atiku? If they didn't, why were they hell bent on humiliating Tinubu with their boss even writing to accuse Tinubu of Noriega moment. If there was no personal or business interest for them, why did they take it so personal?

Then they accused the minister of staying in Eko Hotel and Suites; what has that got to do with anything?

On the surface, Rufai Oseni and Arise News have serious questions; but the questions are not balanced, because they have not asked Landmark questions. They have clearly taken a side and they are fighting for either personal or business interests. Yesterday, it became clear when they interviewed a former Commissioner of Police. The conversation was accusatory and not intermediatory. Answers provided by the government are never acceptable to them, but they believe everything the Landmark CEO says.

Rufai Oseni, you claim to fact check everything. Please fact-check whether Landmark rightfully owned that land and whether he was cleared to build there.

One more point to make: you claim there was no stakeholder engagement before demolition. David Umahi sat down in your studio to say that he met with the CEO of Landmark and that they adjusted their plans to spare his properties. You also asked why properties not previously marked for demolition and outside the right
of way were demolished. As a journalist, you ought to be aware that notices of demolition were sent to all affected parties and they complied.

How come only Landmark is complaining?

What is Arise News/Rufai Oseni's personal/business interest here?

PS: When a former editor and a firmer executive director of PUNCH newspapers had a fight over one of them allegedly collecting millions of naira from corrupt politicians and businessmen to give them positive press coverage and kill negative stories, both of them were forced out of the media house. It became clear that some journalists used the media to promote personal and business interests. So if you see any media house seemingly pursuing or protecting someone's business interest, even at the expense of the public good, money is involved.

How come Channels TV, NTA, TVC or AIT are not fighting or protecting any interests? Why certain journalists from certain media houses?

Rufai Oseni asked to see the acvohnt statements of someone's private business. Can Rufai Oseni publish his own accpunt statements so we are convinced he did not receive a PR contract to use his platform to demarket the coastal road project

Fabulous response to that crook known as Rufai.

Wizkid, instead of you to enter studio and produce hits you are sparring with Davido that has overtaken you in popularity worldwide, especially after his Timeless album.

The only place you can fight him is in the studio.

Not this way bro.

Righteousness2:
Blablablablabla.
Genocide Specialist Go to medina and tell Saudi.

Yet you call yourself ‘Righteousness’.

Bloodthirsty demon.

IPOB THREAD.

A GATHERING OF OUTCASTS.

“EMERGENCY NIGERIANS”.

(SPITS AND WALKS OUT)

general111:
Kai.
Hatred for the west can make some people dumb.
Is it the US that is supporting Hamas and Hezbollah too?

Dumbo, if only you knew the link between western intelligence agencies and “terrorist” groups, you wouldn’t type this slave rubbish.

nnatobryno:
Nigeria is gone

Gone where?

Who is this village man?

Does he think Umahi is his mate?

Rubbish.

Pecoleee345:
But he supposed not be able to speak well with both hands and legs shaking.

May God forgive alot of people in this country.

They really insulted the man..

Obi, hope you are learning how its done...

Nationwide shock as ARISE NEWS praises President Bola Tinubu's masterful display of intelligence and economic wizardy at a high calibre gathering of the World Economic Forum in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omv64uYj02Y&ab_channel=AriseNews

Somebody chilling in his mansion in Dubai.

OP, better find something useful doing.

We are all billionaires in heaven.