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sukkot:
hahahaha. actually i am not a tribal bigot. i am anti-bigot. i assume you are igbo and truth be told, your people are notorious for abusing every tribe in nigeria. even your governor okorocha cautioned you yesterday against this behavior. so you expect people to just keep quiet while you abuse and abuse and abuse ? i am sure thats what you will like.

https://www.nairaland.com/2712751/stop-hating-other-nigerians-want << CLICK THIS LINK

The flat head nincompoop is trying to score cheap point by tagging me gay lmao.. Gay ko, Garri ni

Allosaurus:
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Fvck Roach ass and his opinion, I care less about him. And shut your dirty mouth too, you shameless liar! Like I said before, you have no right to discuss God because you don't know Him. You think I don't know you and your fellow jobless Igbo-hating clique? All you do on Nairaland is scan topics with Igbo names on them and start spewing your hogwash. You, Ileke the she.male, Rilwayne001 the gay and the rest. I don't mean to derail this thread but it's such a shame seeing a tribal bigot like you here.
*spits!

Hey flat head nitwit, I am not a gay

viickerz:
during the first leg, one guy at the viewing center was telling me that bellerin is the fastest defender in the world, he was even comparing him to luke shaw and marcello, Foolish guy, its insane to think that arsenal will beat bayern in their home, even barcelona couldnt beat bayern munich at home last season

Nigga sherrup! Have you forgotten how We beat the hell out of them at their Alianz Arena last season?

Off to bed!

MrCEO69:
Arsenal to score 4, injury always killing arsenal.

1wolex85:
1. Ox is injured

2. Even if he wasn't injured and you put him on for Debuchy, who plays the right full back position?

He should introduce Chambers now

As d tin com be now, its like we are heading to 6-1

Adufetohposh:
No jor! I love the way you make them sweat.

So as I dey cause trouble, you dey enjoy the film. Hope you won't run away when they come after me?

Angelou:
and what historical evidence do you have which proves that those gospels of christ's apostles were not originally written by them but merely ascribed to them by anonymous writers.. If you doubt the autthencity of the gospel just because it seem to contradict ur belief, then how come you believe the qur'an....(a book which you never witnessed when it was written and are not even sure whether it is a genuine revelation that it claims to be)

So, Who Wrote Mark and What Were His Sources?

Not even the Bible claims that Mark was an eye witness to Jesus’ ministry. Modern, non Christian biblical scholars believe that the gospel of Mark was written in Syria by an unknown Christian no earlier than AD 70, using various sources including a passion narrative (probably written), collections of miracles stories (oral or written), apocalyptic traditions (probably written), and disputations and didactic sayings (some possibly written). These stories were in circulation year after year, told in different languages and in different countries from that of Jesus.

That’s it. The source for the gospel of Mark is other peoples’ stories and writings. In other words, all of Mark’s sources were at best, second hand, more likely fifth or sixth hand. What happens to stories that circulate orally for years? Obviously, they come to be changed in the retelling. Thus, the source for much of the synoptic gospels is no more than hearsay.

Apologists dismiss the charge of “hearsay” by pointing to the strength of the “oral tradition”. The simple childhood game of “Telephone” is sufficient to illustrate the point that stories told mouth to mouth for 35 years or more can’t possibly retain their original content.

The Gospel of Mark is the first of the Gospels to proffer quotes allegedly from Jesus. We question how authentic these quotes could possibly be, given the convoluted path from Jesus’ lips to “Marks” wax tablets and the years that passed since the words were allegedly spoken. We have written a treatise on the impossibilities of Jesus’ actual words being accurately recorded 40+ years after they were spoken.

Who Wrote Matthew and What Were The Sources?

By the end of the 2nd century the tradition of Matthew the tax-collector had become widely accepted, and the line “The Gospel According to Matthew” began to be added to manuscripts. For many reasons scholars today believe otherwise—fifty five percent of the gospel is copied from Mark, and it seems unlikely that an eyewitness of Jesus’ ministry would need to rely on others for information about it. They believe instead that it was written between about 80–90 AD by a highly educated Jew, intimately familiar with the technical aspects of Jewish law, standing on the boundary between traditional and non-traditional Jewish values.

A widespread theory holds that the author drew on three primary sources, each representing a distinct community: a hypothetical collection, or several collections, of sayings (called “Q“, and shared with Luke); the Gospel of Mark; and material unique to Matthew (called “M”, some of which may have originated with Matthew himself).

He wrote for a Jewish audience: like “Q” and “M”, he stresses the continuing relevance of the Jewish law; unlike Mark he never bothers to explain Jewish customs; and unlike Luke, who traces Jesus’s ancestry back to Adam, father of the human race, he traces it only to Abraham, father of the Jews. The fact that his linage differs significantly from that of Luke is a real problem for those who claim that the Holy Spirit’s hand guided the writers of the gospels.

The content of “M” suggests that the community for which this gospel was written, was stricter than the others in its attitude to keeping the Jewish law, holding that they must exceed the scribes and the Pharisees in “righteousness” (adherence to Jewish law); and of the three only “M” refers to a “church” (ecclesia), an organised group with rules for keeping order. Biblical scholars generally hold that Matthew was composed between the years c. 70 and 100.


Who Wrote Luke and What Were the Sources?

Most modern critical scholarship concludes that Luke used the Gospel of Mark for his chronology and a hypothetical sayings source Q document for many of Jesus’ teachings. Luke may also have drawn from independent written records. Traditional Christian scholarship has dated the composition of the gospel to the early 60s, while higher criticism dates it to the later decades of the 1st century. While the traditional view that Paul’s companion Luke authored the gospel is still often put forward, a number of possible contradictions between Acts and Paul’s letters lead many scholars to dispute this account.


Who Wrote John and What Were the Sources?

John differs significantly from the synoptic gospels in theme, content, time duration, order of events, and style. Only ca. 8% of it is parallel to these other gospels, and even then, no such word-for-word parallelism occurs as we find among the synoptic gospels. The Gospel of John reflects a Christian tradition that is different from that of the other gospels. It was rejected as heretical by many individuals and groups within the early Christian movement. It was used extensively by the Gnostic Christians. But it was ultimately accepted into the official canon, over many objections. It is now the favorite gospel of many conservative Christians, and the gospel least referred to by many liberal Christians.

They have a totally different agenda in mind for their audience than did the authors of the synoptic gospels. The authors of the synoptic gospels were writing to their fellow Jews and trying to convince them that they could accept Jesus as the Messiah and still remain Jewish. Matthew even indicates that the men should still be circumcised .

John’s teachings , as summed up in John 3:16 are just the opposite of those of the writers of Mark, Matthew and Luke. Whereas John welcomes anyone into the fold, Mark, Matthew and Luke write for and to Jews only. They see Jesus as the Jewish Messiah who has come to return Israel to its former glory.

The gospel identifies its author as “the disciple whom Jesus loved.” The text does not actually name this disciple, but by the beginning of the 2nd century a tradition began to form which identified him with John the Apostle, one of the Twelve (Jesus’s innermost circle). Today the majority of scholars do not believe that John or any other eyewitness wrote it and trace it instead to a “Johannine community” which traced its traditions to John; the gospel itself shows signs of having been composed in three “layers”, reaching its final form about 90-100 AD.


Bottom Line

The canonical gospels upon which the Christian faith is built, the ones which present the words of Jesus are writings by unknown authors writing to buttress the particular points they wished to make. The quotations allegedly from Jesus were most likely, made up by the authors to support their positions.

The titles in our English Bibles are later additions; they are not original to the Gospels themselves.
The Gospel narratives are always written in the third person.
The tradition that they were written by two disciples (Matthew and John) and by two companions of the apostles (Mark and Luke) is first attested in the 2nd century!
What we can say for certain about the authors is that they were all highly educated, literate, Greek-speaking Christians of (at least) the second generation, contrast this with the apostles of Jesus, who were uneducated, lower class, illiterate, Aramaic-speaking peasants.
Even IF the gospels had been written by the “eye-witness” apostles, Matthew and John, it is unlikely that they reported everything accurately. Remember that their “testimony” comes thirty years (Matthew) and sixty years (John) after the fact. This would-be “eyewitness” testimony is, at a minimum, 30 years after the events it purports to describe and the authors were in or nearing their dotage. In any event, recent research has found that eyewitness testimony is not reliable. Read an excerpt from an article entitled “34 Years Later, Supreme Court Will Revisit Eyewitness IDs” By Adam Liptak Published: August 22, 2011, NY Times.

Adufetohposh:
you this my fine boi,u sabi look for trouble Shaa!

really? Do u want me to shut up?

mubarakopeyemi:
iku baba yeye make dem play them Ayinla omowura abeg

That day; biafraudist will have HBP out of frustration

mainman7:

Guy u r soooo wicked! I've never laugh this hard in a very looong time. I laughed so hard my stomach hurts and water dey comot for me eyes. Habah! U fit kill person with laughter I swear.

Muhehehe

Demmzy15:
My bros I suspect something fishy, the Yeebhoe girl is up to something.

You are right on point sire. What she/he is up to I don't know, but God is ultimately greater that him/her.

Perhaps she's collecting it for Amadioha in her Abakaliki village lol.

ALLAH is my strength

chuna1985:
Lmao. Abeg we watch dstv, GoTv n their likes. We don't do nta.

Liar

Aareonakakanfo:
They've banned us several times in their attempt to kill this thread.The next step is to move the thread to the Culture section.nawa

chuna1985:
How come Yoruba de listen to radio biafra pass igbos

simplycarro:
That is the next Igbo Hero.

Yes, the next Oju-iku

PhockPhockMan:
I thought you're wise, why jubilating for nothing?

Laughing is not the same thing as jubilating. I was just laffing at your dilector

He is probably soaking garri in DSS custody right now

Airforce1:
Christmas don reach
Boys don activate spirit of illegal hustle in them
God protect us in this country.
R.i.p to the dead.

simplycarro:
After pushing hot iron for his yansh, DSS don collect the codes.

hahahahahahahaha, our dilector iyaff suffer lmao

Rose2014:
Incase you're too daft to understand, threads like this only promote radio Biafra
You just made me tune in (out of curiousity) and the lo and behold the radio is broadcasting. And I bet more people have tuned in just because of your needless thread
Good business for radio Biafra sha

To all the yoruba posters having orgasm about this news, u might as well tune in also to confirm

parisbookaddict:
Wow.. today u didnt deny mohammed had people assassinated. This is progress...

By the way the answer to ur question will be given to u soon...I am not done..

sukkot:
Rilwayne001 you a funny dude mayne LWKM BUAHAHAHAHAHA.

Demmzy15:
Parisbookaddict why saving the pics of Rilwan, why?!!! What're you using it to do exactly?! The mods need to hear this!