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malvisguy212:Did the revelation stop after his death? ![]() |
joseph1832:He was banned by antispammbot on the religion section i think, anti-spambot can only ban someone from commenting on a particular section and not on NL as a whole. Are you new here? Now if God gave Muhammad give Koran word for word and we all know Muhammad was not literate, how on Earth did he write it down and couldn't it be very possible that when however transcribed probably messed with it? So if God gave Muhammad the Koran word for word, who then was responsible in putting it in print!?.Stop asking questions like a primary 3 student, read the thread and stop been ignorant. I told you I'm not a christian please do not assume I am.Are you an atheist? agnostic? |
AllNaijaBlogger:You should browse the thread, I would have love to add more to them but its like you are not ready for a reasonable debate just like the other robots on this thread. A companion is not a prophet.Agreed [quot Uthman had as much right as anyone to compile a holy book.[/quote]Yes, but anyone who is not an eye witness does'nt have the right to compile an holy book because definitely their will always be the mixture of truth, fabrication, fables, tales, hearsay and above all it will be inconsistent I have shown you up there about the Quran "…… Anyhow when I finished writing,he would say, 'Read!' and I would read it back to him. If there was an omission or error he used to correct it and then let it be brought before the people." Mu'jam Al-Tabarani Al-Awst, Hadith 1913. Dar al-Haramain, Cairo, 1415 AH I see no reason why you should quote me to display such ignorance again. The writer of mattew, Luke, John, Mark, are either not an eye witness or they are anonymous **refer back to empiree points about them in page (1) *** hence, the reason for its contradictions and inconsistencies or you want to claim otherwise? Aside that, these writer were not the compiler of the bible. In actuality, the Bible was VOTED to be the word of God by a group of men during the 4th century about 400years after Jesus. Costantine who was the first Roman Emperor to convert to Christianity, needed a single canon to be agreed upon by the Christian leaders to help him unify the remains of the Roman Empire. Until this time the various Christian leaders could not decide which books would be considered "holy" and thus "the word of God" and which ones would be excluded and not considered the word of God. After all, people reject Ali (according to Lagoshia)as a companion. I did my research after Empiree was playing me "wayo" with islam.Irrelevant. |
Ifeann:<<<< |
PastorKun:<<< sorry, I'll have to ignore you. |
AllNaijaBlogger:And what does that supposed to mean? indeed judas was a companion of jesus that later betrayed him, was constantine a companion of jesus to have decide which is to be canonized as the gospel of jesus? I'm still expecting you guys to counter empiree's claim concerning Mark, Mattew, Luke and John. Still coming on the council of nicean. |
AllNaijaBlogger:One thing that ought to be kept in mind regarding the preservation of the Qur'an is that it was done more through memory than through writing. There was and is great wisdom in this. We see that in the case of earlier Prophets whose teachings were not committed to memory were lost. Sometimes the invaders destroyed the manuscripts and sometimes the scribes intentionally or intentionally made mistakes in the case of the bible (OT and NT) . So to avoid the same to happen to the Qur'an more emphasis was laid on its memorization though it was put into writing as well. Keep in mind that there is no solid evidence that the Quran was written before the prophet's death.This is a blatant lie. The Qur'an was written down and this was done right during the life time of the Holy Prophet (Pbuh). And all the later masahif were based on what was dictated by the Holy Prophet himself. Th Prophet (Pbuh) had more than 40 companions who usually worked as scribes. To mention a few they include Abu Bakr, 'Umar, 'Uthman, 'Ali, 'Abdullah bin Masud, Talha, Sa'd, Huzaifa, Ubayy bin Ka'b, Abdullah bin Abbas, Abdullah bin Zubar, 'Abdullah bin Sai'b, Zaid bin Thabit, Abu Hurairah, Abu Darda, Ma'az bin Jabal, Anas bin Malik, Abu Musa Al-'Ashari, Mu'awiyyah, Sayyidah 'Aisha, Sayyidah Umm Salmah, Sayyidah Hafsa and many more. Zaid bin Thabit, one of the chief scribes relates: "I used to write down the revelation for the Holy Prophet, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him. When the revelation came to him he felt intense heat and drops of perspiration used to roll down his body like pearls. When this state was over I used to fetch a shoulder bone or a piece of something else. He used to go on dictating and I used to write it down. When I finished writing the sheer weight of transcription gave me the feeling that my leg would break and I would not be able to walk anymore. Anyhow when I finished writing, he would say, 'Read!' and I would read it back to him. If there was an omission or error he used to correct it and then let it be brought before the people." Mu'jam Al-Tabarani Al-Awst, Hadith 1913. Dar al-Haramain, Cairo, 1415 AH This^^ is a categorical proof that Companions used to write Qur'an in the supervision of the Prophet (pbuh) and got it checked from him before making it public. Also there are proofs that during the life time of the Prophet (pbuh) the written manuscripts of Qur'an were there. In fact writing of the Qur'an was in practice from the early days of Islam as evident from the incident leading to conversion of one of the closest companions, ‘Umar bin al-Khattab, when he found his sister and brother-in-law with a parchment on which the verses of Surah Taha (chapter 20) were written. Sunan al-Darqutni, Hadith 441, Al-Resalah Publications, Beirut, 2004 Al-Zayl’i said it is a good (jayyid ) narration. See Nasab al-Raya (vol.1 p.199 Muhammad 'Awwama ed.) There are some other traditions which indicate that Companions had written copies of complete or incomplete Quran. For example; Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: “Allah's Messenger forbade the people to travel to a hostile country carrying (copies of) the Quran.” Sahih Bukhari, Book 52, Hadith 233 Obviously these traditions are categorical evidence that the Companions used to have written copies of the Qur’an even during the life time of the Holy Prophet and that it was not something unusual. Likewise, there is evidence for the manuscripts of the Qur’an in the instruction of th Prophet to Hakim bin Hizam when he sent him to Yemen as a governor. He said: “Do not touch the Qur’an except when you are in the state of purity.” Mustadrak al-Hakim, Hadith 6051, Dar al-Kotob al- Ilmiyya, Beirut, 1990 Al-Hakim classified it as Sahih. Al-Dhahabi agreed with him. Also It was narrated that Abu Hurairah said: “The Messenger of Allah said: ‘ The rewards of the good deeds that will reach a believer after his death are: Knowledge which he taught and spread; a righteous son whom he leaves behind; a copy of the Qur’an that he leaves as a legacy; a mosque that he built; a house that he built for wayfarers; a canal that he dug; or charity that he gave during his lifetime when he was in good health. These deeds will reach him after his death. Sunan Ibn Majah, Book 1, Chapter 20, Hadith 242. Classified as Hasan by Albani I can go on and on like that but lemme stop here. Also, kindly consider that your friends of the prophet were still collecting information/revelation from the prophet till his dying day. So that would make it impossible for the Quran to be ready before his death.My first point clears the above. |
PastorKun:Uthman is one of the companion of the prophet (pbuh). Can you say the same for Constantine? |
AllNaijaBlogger:It was compiled not written as you claimed To prevent disputes about which verses should be considered divinely inspired, Othman had this definitive version compiled. It was completed in the year 651, only 19 years after Muhammad’s death.Something not available or not in written cannot be compiled, is'nt it? |
tit:Has he killed any of your relations? If he is a killer what is stopping GEJ from arresting him? again "mumu" that is your name ![]() |
IS APC NOW THE RULING PARTY? Blame APC for boko haram,blame APC for corruption,blame APC for Biafra new plate number,blame APC for kidnappings,,blame APC for armed robberies,blame APC for oil theft,blame APC for increase in Nepa tarriff without adequate power supply,blame APC for devaluation of Naira,blame APC for high cost of cement,blame APC for fuel increase ,blame APC for1billion Naira budget for feeding,blame APC for fuel subsidy scam ,,Haba majority of us are not fools, ."AN INCOMPETENT LEADER ALWAYS LOOKING FOR UNNECESSARY EXCUSES FOR HIS FAILURE" |
Delafruita:Indeed he needs a lobotomy |
tit:So GEJ should kill Buhari in retaliation abi "mumu" thats ur name |
yakubuomowumi:Sire I believe you are the brainless one here |
funkyjms:thanks bruv, i apprc8. i wil update u shortly |
yakubuomowumi:stop this madness |
funkyjms:which thread ![]() |
Using the Ministry of Justice to scuttle the use of PVCs through the judiciary would be a grievous abuse of thebpowers of incumbency and we as citizens should be concerned that such a case even arose in the first place.http://blogs.premiumtimesng.com/?p=166898 |
saibinc:Hello, Please save me from these thieves called MTN, theyhave been swindling my money since about 2weeks ago, their one day data (10mb) doesnt take 30minutes b4 it vanishes, opening my FB or twitter page and the data is gone. Last week i subscribed for the one day data of 50mb for #200 and i was aving an extra #600credit on my phone, unknown to me b4 the day runs awt both the 50mb and the credit are gone. I called their CC and the later wS busy asking some irrelevant question and later ask me to hold on for a while, after wasting my time for about 15minutes she asked me to call back, and by the time i called back another person picked and was asking another fooolish question just like the former. Please help me....how do i swindle them of free data too? |
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God bless this man |
Empiree:Salam bro, You are doing a great job on this section. Jazakumullahu Kairan. We all know 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 to the deluded trinitarian, trying to explain to them, they will tell you that you cant understand it unless you have holy spirit...SMH...The question I always ask this people is that, Why for so many years non of the old prophet taught this erroneous nature of God? atleast moses should have, if actually he did, the jews would also believe God is 3. |
Empiree:The dude no doubt is a robot. I give up : |
malvisguy212:Can you say the same bolded for the first 5books if the OT attributed to moses? the first word indicate, it was not Jesus that wrote it but mark. When someone is written your story, how will he wrote it? By writing your name ,but if you are the one writing the story of your life, no need for you to include your name because the readers know the book is about you .And I asked was jesus preaching what mark mattew PAUL and co wrote when he said Mark 1:14-15 The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel’" Mark wrote what the holy spirit revealed to him.Including the contradictions and inconsistencies in it? Jesus did not speak His own words, but the words that the Father gave Him (John 8:38-42; 12:49-50; 14:24).There are 2problems here^^: 1. If jesus spoke the word his father gave him as his gospel, then why do we have the words of Paul, mattew mark luke and john as the gospel of jesus today? 2. Christian claim jesus is the word of God, how do you reconcile that with the underlined? can a word be given a word ![]() His message was not primarily about Himself, but rather the good news that the Father ordained to be announced on earth.And i asked, what is the good news that jesus preached? atleast you have affirmed that he didnt preach about himself contrary to your firsr claim on this thread. While Jesus Christ was categorically the most important individual ever to walk this earth, the Bible shows clearly that the gospel that Jesus brought was not simply about Himself. Read His statements, and prove this for yourself:Malvisguy, you've just contradicted yourself here^^ Here is your first claim. the gospel details the life and deed of jesusIf the gospel according to Mark Mattew paul and co, then what gospel was jesus preaching in Mark 1:14-15.? |
truthman2012:My question first. |
OP. please change the topic of the thread pleasw ![]() The President Goodluck Jonathan Campaign ![]() |
malvisguy212:Mat 4:23 Jesus went throughout Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every.disease and sickness among the people. ‘ Mark 1:14-15 The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel’" Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; So jesus was preaching his life and deed according to malviguy212...hmm. wonders. jesus did not write a book,if he did then provide it let read.how is it possible for Jesus to read in a book how he will die?My point is what gospel was jesus preaching according to the verses of the bible above? is it what we have today according to mark and luke today? Oh yes, its not possible for him to have written how he will die, but was he busy preaching is death and ressurection as recorded by his alleged apostle in ‘ Mark 1:14-15 The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel’" Doesn't this mean he did not write a book ,mark,matthew,john and Luke were all inspired by the holy ghost but if you insist the bible is corrupt then answer this questions, I ask your brother but he couldn't answer it;So holy ghost was busy inspiring contradictions and inconsistencies as we have in the alleged gospel of jesus? 1.when was the bible corrupted?Are there contradictions and incosistencies in the bible or not? lets start from here |
patrick89:Why is he daft? |
thorpido:Which someone? where? The only person that answers it is psucc, and he affirmed that jesus didnt read nor aware of all that mark, mattew Paul and co wrote about him. Now can you provide the original copy of the gospel I asked for?Do you agree with psucc? |
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