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Christianity EtcRe: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Rilwayne001(op): 8:12am On Mar 04, 2015
malvisguy212:
when waraqa died, what's make the revelation pause? Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3 Narrated 'Aisha:
......" But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for while. ...
Did the revelation stop after his death? undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Rilwayne001(op): 12:43pm On Mar 03, 2015
joseph1832:
Also I really can't smell why you were banned! if truly you were banned why on Earth can you comment on that section?.
He was banned by antispammbot on the religion section i think, anti-spambot can only ban someone from commenting on a particular section and not on NL as a whole. Are you new here?

Now if God gave Muhammad give Koran word for word and we all know Muhammad was not literate, how on Earth did he write it down and couldn't it be very possible that when however transcribed probably messed with it? So if God gave Muhammad the Koran word for word, who then was responsible in putting it in print!?.
Stop asking questions like a primary 3 student, read the thread and stop been ignorant.

I told you I'm not a christian please do not assume I am.
Are you an atheist? agnostic?
Christianity EtcRe: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Rilwayne001(op): 12:38pm On Mar 03, 2015
AllNaijaBlogger:
What claim about the gospels?
You should browse the thread, I would have love to add more to them but its like you are not ready for a reasonable debate just like the other robots on this thread.

A companion is not a prophet.
Agreed

[quot Uthman had as much right as anyone to compile a holy book.[/quote]Yes, but anyone who is not an eye witness does'nt have the right to compile an holy book because definitely their will always be the mixture of truth, fabrication, fables, tales, hearsay and above all it will be inconsistent I have shown you up there about the Quran "…… Anyhow when I finished writing,he would say, 'Read!' and I would read it back to him. If there was an omission or error he used to correct it and then let it be brought before the people." Mu'jam Al-Tabarani Al-Awst, Hadith 1913. Dar al-Haramain, Cairo, 1415 AH I see no reason why you should quote me to display such ignorance again. The writer of mattew, Luke, John, Mark, are either not an eye witness or they are anonymous **refer back to empiree points about them in page (1) *** hence, the reason for its contradictions and inconsistencies or you want to claim otherwise? Aside that, these writer were not the compiler of the bible. In actuality, the Bible was VOTED to be the word of God by a group of men during the 4th century about 400years after Jesus. Costantine who was the first Roman Emperor to convert to Christianity, needed a single canon to be agreed upon by the Christian leaders to help him unify the remains of the Roman Empire. Until this time the various Christian leaders could not decide which books would be considered "holy" and thus "the word of God" and which ones would be excluded and not considered the word of God.

After all, people reject Ali (according to Lagoshia)as a companion. I did my research after Empiree was playing me "wayo" with islam.
Irrelevant.
Christianity EtcRe: Robbers Attack Church In Kwara by Rilwayne001: 9:59am On Mar 03, 2015
tola9ja:
OREMUSSANCTUS see how robber attack 1 of ur business center grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
grin lmao grin
'Ole gbe, ole gbaa' cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Rilwayne001(op): 11:27pm On Mar 02, 2015
Ifeann:
[s] Lol. . very nice observations..they are both equally lost and ignorant. . but I tend to have a soft spot for Rilwayne001 because he has totally fallen victim to both the Islamic rhetoric and silly teachings, and has tried to rationalize islamic villainy in his mind..
he was probably born a muslim..... the other hand u have mr eschatology ..empiree..who knows little about his own religion and just randomly copies articles and videos everywhere to post on this forum..he does not believe in understanding anything or asking questions (see pic below ) just blind believe in the fraud Mohammed. .he also lacks intelligence and his comments are riddled with grammatical errors despite his claim of living in the West (I think he said USA )for several years.. but this is to be expected from Muslims. [/s]
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Christianity EtcRe: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Rilwayne001(op): 6:30pm On Mar 02, 2015
PastorKun:
[s] Even if he was a companion, the credibility of your prophet is yet to be established. We all know a book that is directly responsible for the death and misery of millions since it was written cannot possibly be from God. [/s]
<<< sorry, I'll have to ignore you.
Christianity EtcRe: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Rilwayne001(op): 6:26pm On Mar 02, 2015
AllNaijaBlogger:
Judas was also the companion of Christ. Think deeply
And what does that supposed to mean? indeed judas was a companion of jesus that later betrayed him, was constantine a companion of jesus to have decide which is to be canonized as the gospel of jesus?

I'm still expecting you guys to counter empiree's claim concerning Mark, Mattew, Luke and John.

Still coming on the council of nicean.
Christianity EtcRe: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Rilwayne001(op): 6:21pm On Mar 02, 2015
AllNaijaBlogger:
Well, one would ask why it took 19 years after the death of the prophet to compile a definitive Quran.
One thing that ought to be kept in mind regarding the preservation of the Qur'an is that it was done more through memory than through writing. There was and is great wisdom in this. We see that in the case of earlier Prophets whose teachings were not committed to memory were lost. Sometimes the invaders destroyed the manuscripts and sometimes the scribes intentionally or intentionally made mistakes in the case of the bible (OT and NT) . So to avoid the same to happen to the Qur'an more emphasis was laid on its memorization though it was put into writing as well.


Keep in mind that there is no solid evidence that the Quran was written before the prophet's death.
This is a blatant lie.

The Qur'an was written down and this was done right during the life time of the Holy Prophet (Pbuh). And all the later masahif were based on what was dictated by the Holy Prophet himself.

Th Prophet (Pbuh) had more than 40 companions who usually worked as scribes. To mention a few they include Abu Bakr, 'Umar, 'Uthman, 'Ali, 'Abdullah bin Masud, Talha, Sa'd, Huzaifa, Ubayy bin Ka'b, Abdullah bin Abbas, Abdullah bin Zubar, 'Abdullah bin Sai'b, Zaid bin Thabit, Abu Hurairah, Abu Darda, Ma'az bin Jabal, Anas bin Malik, Abu Musa Al-'Ashari, Mu'awiyyah, Sayyidah 'Aisha, Sayyidah Umm Salmah, Sayyidah Hafsa and many more.


Zaid bin Thabit, one of the chief scribes relates: "I used to write down the revelation for the Holy Prophet, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him. When the revelation came to him he felt intense heat and drops of perspiration used to roll down his body like pearls. When this state was over I used to fetch a shoulder bone or a piece of something else. He used to go on dictating and I used to write it down. When I finished writing the sheer weight of transcription gave me the feeling that my leg would break and I would not be able to walk anymore. Anyhow when I finished writing, he would say, 'Read!' and I would read it back to him. If there was an omission or error he used to correct it and then let it be brought before the
people."
Mu'jam Al-Tabarani Al-Awst, Hadith 1913. Dar al-Haramain, Cairo, 1415 AH

This^^ is a categorical proof that Companions used to write Qur'an in the supervision of the Prophet (pbuh) and got it checked from him before making it public.

Also there are proofs that during the life time of the Prophet (pbuh) the written manuscripts of Qur'an were there. In fact writing of the Qur'an was in practice from the early days of Islam as evident from the incident leading to conversion of one of the closest companions, ‘Umar bin al-Khattab, when he found his sister and brother-in-law with a parchment on which the verses of Surah Taha (chapter 20) were written. Sunan al-Darqutni, Hadith 441, Al-Resalah Publications, Beirut, 2004 Al-Zayl’i said it is a good (jayyid ) narration. See Nasab al-Raya (vol.1 p.199 Muhammad 'Awwama ed.)

There are some other traditions which indicate that Companions had written copies of complete or incomplete Quran. For example;

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: “Allah's Messenger forbade the people to travel to a hostile country carrying (copies of) the Quran.” Sahih Bukhari, Book 52, Hadith 233

Obviously these traditions are categorical evidence that the Companions used to have written copies of the Qur’an even during the life time of the Holy Prophet and that it was not something unusual.

Likewise, there is evidence for the manuscripts of the Qur’an in the instruction of th Prophet to Hakim bin Hizam when he sent him to Yemen as a governor. He said: “Do not touch the Qur’an except when you are in the state of purity.” Mustadrak al-Hakim, Hadith 6051, Dar al-Kotob al-
Ilmiyya, Beirut, 1990 Al-Hakim classified it as Sahih. Al-Dhahabi agreed with him.


Also It was narrated that Abu Hurairah said: “The Messenger of Allah said: ‘ The rewards of the good deeds that will reach a believer after his death are: Knowledge which he taught and spread; a righteous son whom he leaves behind; a copy of the Qur’an that he leaves as a legacy; a mosque that he built; a house that he built for wayfarers; a canal that he dug; or charity that he gave during his lifetime when he was in good health. These deeds will reach him after his death. Sunan Ibn Majah, Book 1, Chapter 20, Hadith 242. Classified as Hasan by Albani

I can go on and on like that but lemme stop here.


Also, kindly consider that your friends of the prophet were still collecting information/revelation from the prophet till his dying day. So that would make it impossible for the Quran to be ready before his death.
My first point clears the above.
Christianity EtcRe: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Rilwayne001(op): 5:12pm On Mar 02, 2015
PastorKun:
Hmmmn so it was [u] othman who decided which hadith that would be compiled as part of the quoran. Interesting! Yet some illiterates would open their stinking mouths and tell us the bible is corrupt.
Uthman is one of the companion of the prophet (pbuh).

Can you say the same for Constantine?
Christianity EtcRe: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Rilwayne001(op): 4:49pm On Mar 02, 2015
AllNaijaBlogger:
The earliest copy of the quran is dated to 19 years after the death of the prophet.

http://irfi.org/articles/articles_401_450/oldest_quran_in_the_world.htm
It was compiled not written as you claimed

To prevent disputes about which verses should be considered divinely inspired, Othman had this definitive version compiled. It was completed in the year 651, only 19 years after Muhammad’s death.
Something not available or not in written cannot be compiled, is'nt it?
PoliticsRe: Group Alleges Plot To Assassinate Buhari by Rilwayne001: 4:39pm On Mar 02, 2015
tit:
no.
tinubu is a killer.
he will kill you and buhari.
watch and see.
Has he killed any of your relations?

If he is a killer what is stopping GEJ from arresting him?

again "mumu" that is your name undecided
PoliticsRe: Opposition Leaders Behind Fuel Scarcity, Says mu’azu by Rilwayne001:
IS APC NOW THE RULING PARTY?

Blame APC for boko haram,blame APC for corruption,blame APC for Biafra new plate number,blame APC for kidnappings,,blame APC for armed robberies,blame APC for oil theft,blame APC for increase in Nepa tarriff without adequate power supply,blame APC for devaluation of Naira,blame APC for high cost of cement,blame APC for fuel increase ,blame APC for1billion Naira budget for feeding,blame APC for fuel subsidy scam ,,Haba majority of us are not fools, ."AN INCOMPETENT LEADER ALWAYS LOOKING
FOR UNNECESSARY EXCUSES FOR HIS FAILURE"
PoliticsRe: Opposition Leaders Behind Fuel Scarcity, Says mu’azu by Rilwayne001: 4:37pm On Mar 02, 2015
Delafruita:
that man needs urgent medical attention.
Indeed he needs a lobotomy
PoliticsRe: Group Alleges Plot To Assassinate Buhari by Rilwayne001: 4:36pm On Mar 02, 2015
tit:
tinubu kill Funsho Williams too.
and Bolaji Ige.
So GEJ should kill Buhari in retaliation abihuh


"mumu" thats ur name
PoliticsRe: Elections And The Abuse Of The Powers Of Incumbency by Rilwayne001(op): 4:31pm On Mar 02, 2015
yakubuomowumi:
Go and correct the errors in your write up you don't know shit, you have been brainwashed so you are now brainless.
Sire I believe you are the brainless one here
PhonesRe: Android Devices Software Related Problems Solved Here: Ask Your Questions by Rilwayne001: 3:19pm On Mar 02, 2015
funkyjms:
https://www.nairaland.com/2162214/video-how-use-mtn-bis
thanks bruv, i apprc8. i wil update u shortly
PoliticsRe: Elections And The Abuse Of The Powers Of Incumbency by Rilwayne001(op): 3:13pm On Mar 02, 2015
yakubuomowumi:
[s] APC LIE LIAR MUHAMMAD APC WITCHCRAFT BROOM CARRYING PARTYAPC CAUSING FUEL SCARCITY LIKE THIER MAYHEM.
The Schizophrenic demented sick Pa Buhari is a terrorist, deranged old brainless super clueless bastard
Apc is boko haram
Thiefnu.bu is a pedophile drug dealer and a cocain sniffer property seized in the usa for his drug deals.
Buhari can only be president in sambisa and shekau would hand over to him with his forged result.
Osinbajo is fake and a loafeAmechi and Fashola are errand boy
Ambode new recruit errand boyBuhari boko haram spiritual head
Atiku and Thiefnu.bu boko haram sponsor
[/s]
stop this madness
PhonesRe: Android Devices Software Related Problems Solved Here: Ask Your Questions by Rilwayne001: 3:05pm On Mar 02, 2015
funkyjms:
Keep on dulling yourself grin grin
Visit this thread, this is the only way I can help
which threadhuh
PoliticsElections And The Abuse Of The Powers Of Incumbency by Rilwayne001(op): 3:03pm On Mar 02, 2015
Using the Ministry of Justice to scuttle the use of PVCs through the judiciary would be a grievous abuse of thebpowers of incumbency and we as citizens should be concerned that such a case even arose in the first place.

The PVC and card readers have become the key issue about the forthcoming elections. The sheer number of cases in the court spearheaded by agents of the Federal Government reveals that there is deep concern and even panic within the ruling party about the impact of these tools. The question is why this fear. The PVC and card readers have been developed to do two simple things, which should please all democrats.The first is to authenticate that the voter who turns up with a PVC is indeed in possession of a valid card and that the card is issued to him through a verification of biometric features. The second is to keep an accurate record of the total number of people who had been accredited to vote and voted so that the numbers could not be changed subsequently. The card reader has the capacity to keep such numbers and transmit them directly to INEC headquarters. These features are pleasing to all democrats because they significantly improve the integrity of the electoral process. Why then are some people so opposed to their use?

To understand the dynamics, let’s look at the percentages scored by presidential candidates Muhammadu Buhari and Goodluck Jonathan in the states where they were the most popular in 2011. Candidate Buhari scored the following highest votes caste in percentages – Bauchi 82%, Borno 78%, Katsina 72%, Zamfara 67%, Niger 65%, Sokoto 62% and Gombe 60%.

Candidate Jonathan scored the following highest votes – 99% of total votes cast in Abia, Anambra, Bayelsa, Delta, Enugu,Imo and Rivers States, incredible percentages. We now know that since the 2011 elections, almost five million names – 4,841,861 millions multiple registrants have been removed the list and had not received PVCs. This means, the total number of voters in all states were inflated in 2011 and claiming that 99% of that total inflated number actually all voted is a clear indication of inflation of voters in some States. Those demanding that we revert to the use of the temporary voters card therefore do so with the full knowledge that it provides room for inflating votes. If INEC is so determined to use PVC and the card readers, it is precisely because they want to close loopholes that can be used for rigging.

Since certain elements realized that the real purpose of the PVC and card readers was to frustrate the activities of election riggers, there has been a campaign of calumny against INEC and particularly its Chair, Professor Attahiru Jega. There has been lots of speculation and kite flying about the necessity to send him away on pre-retirement leave before the elections.Clearly, for those engaged with the practice of electoral fraud, the beginning of wisdom starts with understanding what he stands for. There were assumptions that his often-repeated words of “free, fair and credible elections” were merely a slogan. Now that they realize it’s for real, they are after him with a vengeance. The good thing is that Nigerians now realize that the real reason for the campaign against PVCs and card readers is to produce electoral outcomes other than that determined by the votes of the people. We cannot allow this to recur in our country.

Nigerians most be concerned about the ways in which the Presidency is over-reaching its power and abusing its incumbency to ensure that there is no level playing ground for the forthcoming elections. I have in this column addressed the problem of the unfair use of security agencies against political opponents a number of times. There is a raging debate about the way in which the military have been used in the June Ekiti elections and the imperative of not allowing such abuse of incumbency to recur. The blatant lack of neutrality relative to the use of the police to harass and intimidate opposition party leaders is a cause for concern. We all have a stake in deepening and not scuttling our democracy. The Presidency should se itself as a stakeholder in building and consolidating.our democracy.
http://blogs.premiumtimesng.com/?p=166898
PhonesRe: Android Devices Software Related Problems Solved Here: Ask Your Questions by Rilwayne001: 2:19pm On Mar 02, 2015
saibinc:
Try charging the phone for probably an hour first. If nothing happens, come back to exlain in details what happened to the phone how it started.
Hello,

Please save me from these thieves called MTN, theyhave been swindling my money since about 2weeks ago, their one day data (10mb) doesnt take 30minutes b4 it vanishes, opening my FB or twitter page and the data is gone. Last week i subscribed for the one day data of 50mb for #200 and i was aving an extra #600credit on my phone, unknown to me b4 the day runs awt both the 50mb and the credit are gone. I called their CC and the later wS busy asking some irrelevant question and later ask me to hold on for a while, after wasting my time for about 15minutes she asked me to call back, and by the time i called back another person picked and was asking another fooolish question just like the former.

Please help me....how do i swindle them of free data too?
EducationRe: 15 Best Uncommon Courses To Study In Nigeria In 2015 by Rilwayne001: 1:51pm On Mar 02, 2015
Finance and banking
PoliticsRe: Yoruba Agenda: Stop Deceiving People, Falana Tells Afenifere by Rilwayne001: 6:49am On Mar 02, 2015
God bless this man
Christianity EtcRe: 1 John 5:7 Is A Pure Religious Fabrication !!! by Rilwayne001: 6:46am On Mar 02, 2015
Empiree:
Ride on bro...they are polytheists. They want us to believe 1+1+1=1. rilwayne001 abeg come to this one. Ineresting. I de gbadun am
Salam bro,

You are doing a great job on this section.


Jazakumullahu Kairan. smiley

We all know 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 to the deluded trinitarian, trying to explain to them, they will tell you that you cant understand it unless you have holy spirit...SMH...The question I always ask this people is that, Why for so many years non of the old prophet taught this erroneous nature of God? atleast moses should have, if actually he did, the jews would also believe God is 3.
Christianity EtcRe: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Rilwayne001(op): 8:24pm On Mar 01, 2015
Empiree:
This thread is more appropriate for this discussion. I posted a long essay detailing how bible was written and so fourth. I am really tired of repeating myself. If you had read the essay it answered your questions. Or at least most part. If you havent then, read it and post reasonable question as clear as possible. rilwayne is answring same question indirectly here but u dont get it. You answer the question yourself too in this quote.
The dude no doubt is a robot. I give up :
Christianity EtcRe: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Rilwayne001(op): 3:34pm On Mar 01, 2015
malvisguy212:
Mat 4:23 JESUS WENT throughout Galilee,
teaching in their synagogues, preaching
the gospel of the kingdom, and healing
every.disease and sickness among the
people. If Jesus write the gospel, no need to made mention of his name,
Can you say the same bolded for the first 5books if the OT attributed to moses?

the first word indicate, it was not Jesus that wrote it but mark. When someone is written your story, how will he wrote it? By writing your name ,but if you are the one writing the story of your life, no need for you to include your name because the readers know the book is about you .
And I asked was jesus preaching what mark mattew PAUL and co wrote when he said Mark 1:14-15 The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel’"


Mark wrote what the holy spirit revealed to him.
Including the contradictions and inconsistencies in it?


Jesus did not speak His own words, but the words that the Father gave Him (John 8:38-42; 12:49-50; 14:24).
There are 2problems here^^:

1. If jesus spoke the word his father gave him as his gospel, then why do we have the words of Paul, mattew mark luke and john as the gospel of jesus today?

2. Christian claim jesus is the word of God, how do you reconcile that with the underlined? can a word be given a wordhuh


His message was not primarily about Himself, but rather the good news that the Father ordained to be announced on earth.
And i asked, what is the good news that jesus preached? atleast you have affirmed that he didnt preach about himself contrary to your firsr claim on this thread.

While Jesus Christ was categorically the most important individual ever to walk this earth, the Bible shows clearly that the gospel that Jesus brought was not simply about Himself. Read His statements, and prove this for yourself:

» And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease among the people. ( Matthew 4:23)

If you are good in English language, you will understand what this verses mean.The inspired Word of God makes it abundantly plain: The "good news" that Jesus Christ brought was about the Kingdom of God! The "gospel of Jesus Christ" is simply the message of good news that Jesus preached not a messa!ge about Jesus. Understand?
Malvisguy, you've just contradicted yourself here^^

Here is your first claim.
the gospel details the life and deed of jesus
If the gospel according to Mark Mattew paul and co, then what gospel was jesus preaching in Mark 1:14-15.?
Christianity EtcRe: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Rilwayne001(op): 9:57pm On Feb 28, 2015
truthman2012:
[s] I know Rilwayne could not give an answer to this. [/s]\If you know the answer, the questions you raised in the op will be taken care of. As a student of the quran, have you come across that verse? Which Book is that and where is it?
My question first.
PoliticsRe: Veritable SW Man Predicts Victory For GEJ In SW by Rilwayne001: 9:52pm On Feb 28, 2015
OP. please change the topic of the thread pleasw undecided

The President Goodluck Jonathan Campaign
Coordinator for Obafemi Owode Local Government
area of Ogun State, Mr. Adeyinka Kotoye,
has said
that the presidential candidate of the Peoples
Democratic Party, PDP,
undecided undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Rilwayne001(op): 9:24pm On Feb 28, 2015
malvisguy212:
the gospel details the life and deed of jesus,
Mat 4:23 Jesus went throughout Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every.disease and sickness among the people.

‘ Mark 1:14-15 The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel’"

Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor;

So jesus was preaching his life and deed according to malviguy212...hmm. wonders.


jesus did not write a book,if he did then provide it let read.how is it possible for Jesus to read in a book how he will die?
My point is what gospel was jesus preaching according to the verses of the bible above? is it what we have today according to mark and luke today?

Oh yes, its not possible for him to have written how he will die, but was he busy preaching is death and ressurection as recorded by his alleged apostle in ‘ Mark 1:14-15 The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel’"

Doesn't this mean he did not write a book ,mark,matthew,john and Luke were all inspired by the holy ghost but if you insist the bible is corrupt then answer this questions, I ask your brother but he couldn't answer it;
So holy ghost was busy inspiring contradictions and inconsistencies as we have in the alleged gospel of jesus?

1.when was the bible corrupted?
If it was before islam, why would Allah
refer Muhammad to something that is
Corrupted to make confirmation?
2 If it was after Muhammad had died,
how was he able to receive the revelation that the Scripture (Torah and Injeel) had been corrupted ?
3. The quran confirms that the Scripture
was a clear proof in writings. This means
there were copies in circulation. How
possible all copies vanished without
anyone having a copy anywhere? You
should by now discover a lie is told.
4. Why would God be so weak as to allow man throw away His words before He would vow to protect the subsequent
revelations? Did He learn from experience?
I tell you the truth,if you answer this
questions properly you will discovered
sooo many lies. Thank you.
Are there contradictions and incosistencies in the bible or not?

lets start from here
PoliticsRe: Why Don’t You Want Jega Sacked, PDP Asks APC by Rilwayne001: 8:29pm On Feb 28, 2015
patrick89:
I think you are the definition of the word *daft*
Why is he daft?
Christianity EtcRe: Question: Did Jesus Read The Bible? by Rilwayne001(op): 8:24pm On Feb 28, 2015
thorpido:
Someone already answered your question and you are still asking the same thing which shows you don't understand.
Which someone? where?

The only person that answers it is psucc, and he affirmed that jesus didnt read nor aware of all that mark, mattew Paul and co wrote about him.

Now can you provide the original copy of the gospel I asked for?
Do you agree with psucc?

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