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brito:A pastor told 400 guys to cut off their **ck in other to move closer to God. Smdh. |
Christians are not christlike |
PastorKun:You don't support trinity and you don't believe paul, so what type of christian are you? I hope you are aware that Catholic protestant, JW consider you as heretic and hell fire bound. |
malvisguy212:Waraqa died 3years after he met the Prophet. Yet, the prophet received revelation for the next 20 years after the death of Waraqa. stop being robotic ![]() |
malvisguy212:Robot. are you pained? ![]() If muhammed was an eyewitness,Doe this mean he was an eyewitness when God created the world? ![]() Dos not this tell you that,that is how this men in the bible were inspired?List this men please and tell us the book they wrote. kindly start from the old testament. But muhammed contradicts the teaching. Why will God Wait for soo long before he send muhammed to correct there teaching?Maybe the answer will surface when you tell us the reason why Jesus hasnt intervened in the confusion in christianity. |
malvisguy212:Am I God to determine the reason? Waraqa died 3 years after he met the prophet. The prophet received revelation for the next 20years after the death of Waraqa. So what point are you trying to drive out here ![]() |
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malvisguy212:I asked a rehtoric quwstion. Did the revelation stoped after the death of Waraqa? |
malvisguy212:Which means you are not a child of God? come to think of it, you believe in Jesus, satan also believe in jesus, so whats the difference between the 2 of you? 2.rilwayn say someone who is not an eyewitness has no right to compel a holy book, you quote the hadith to prove to me the bible is corrupted,the writer of the hadith is not a eyewitness,according to rilwyn we will not trust it.Compile not compel Yes, some hadiths cannot be trusted just like the bible, they both consist the mixture of truth, lies, inconsistencies, and fables. But the hadith is more substantiated than the bible been the fact that it can be scrutinized with the Quran, some writers of the hadiths were eyewitness while that the bible were not, **you can prove to me they are** The compiler of the hadiths though was compiled some 300years after the prophet (pbhu), the chain of distribution can still help in determining how real they are. While in the case of the bible, the writers are unknown and the compilers compiled it some 400years after jesus and they did just compile it, they had to cast VOTE to determined what the gospel of jesus looks like. 3.the quran made it clear that the injil and the torah are WRITTEN document,if it not written then how will the people be able to observed the law ?how will it possible that all copies be vanished without anyone holding the original?Robotic comment. 4.you said it was not necessary the earlier scripture been preserved but the quran say other wise;The Quran makes this claim:" Verily, we have sent down the Reminder, and, verily, we will guard it. Q15:9"the remander is the scriptureSurah Al-Hijr, Verse 9: Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Quran) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption). (English - Mohsin Khan) 5.jerimaih was not talking about the scripture ,it was talking about the law.What is the difference between the scripture and the law? |
joseph1832:Okay |
malvisguy212:Did the revelation stop after his death? ![]() |
joseph1832:He was banned by antispammbot on the religion section i think, anti-spambot can only ban someone from commenting on a particular section and not on NL as a whole. Are you new here? Now if God gave Muhammad give Koran word for word and we all know Muhammad was not literate, how on Earth did he write it down and couldn't it be very possible that when however transcribed probably messed with it? So if God gave Muhammad the Koran word for word, who then was responsible in putting it in print!?.Stop asking questions like a primary 3 student, read the thread and stop been ignorant. I told you I'm not a christian please do not assume I am.Are you an atheist? agnostic? |
AllNaijaBlogger:You should browse the thread, I would have love to add more to them but its like you are not ready for a reasonable debate just like the other robots on this thread. A companion is not a prophet.Agreed [quot Uthman had as much right as anyone to compile a holy book.[/quote]Yes, but anyone who is not an eye witness does'nt have the right to compile an holy book because definitely their will always be the mixture of truth, fabrication, fables, tales, hearsay and above all it will be inconsistent I have shown you up there about the Quran "…… Anyhow when I finished writing,he would say, 'Read!' and I would read it back to him. If there was an omission or error he used to correct it and then let it be brought before the people." Mu'jam Al-Tabarani Al-Awst, Hadith 1913. Dar al-Haramain, Cairo, 1415 AH I see no reason why you should quote me to display such ignorance again. The writer of mattew, Luke, John, Mark, are either not an eye witness or they are anonymous **refer back to empiree points about them in page (1) *** hence, the reason for its contradictions and inconsistencies or you want to claim otherwise? Aside that, these writer were not the compiler of the bible. In actuality, the Bible was VOTED to be the word of God by a group of men during the 4th century about 400years after Jesus. Costantine who was the first Roman Emperor to convert to Christianity, needed a single canon to be agreed upon by the Christian leaders to help him unify the remains of the Roman Empire. Until this time the various Christian leaders could not decide which books would be considered "holy" and thus "the word of God" and which ones would be excluded and not considered the word of God. After all, people reject Ali (according to Lagoshia)as a companion. I did my research after Empiree was playing me "wayo" with islam.Irrelevant. |
Ifeann:<<<< |
PastorKun:<<< sorry, I'll have to ignore you. |
AllNaijaBlogger:And what does that supposed to mean? indeed judas was a companion of jesus that later betrayed him, was constantine a companion of jesus to have decide which is to be canonized as the gospel of jesus? I'm still expecting you guys to counter empiree's claim concerning Mark, Mattew, Luke and John. Still coming on the council of nicean. |
AllNaijaBlogger:One thing that ought to be kept in mind regarding the preservation of the Qur'an is that it was done more through memory than through writing. There was and is great wisdom in this. We see that in the case of earlier Prophets whose teachings were not committed to memory were lost. Sometimes the invaders destroyed the manuscripts and sometimes the scribes intentionally or intentionally made mistakes in the case of the bible (OT and NT) . So to avoid the same to happen to the Qur'an more emphasis was laid on its memorization though it was put into writing as well. Keep in mind that there is no solid evidence that the Quran was written before the prophet's death.This is a blatant lie. The Qur'an was written down and this was done right during the life time of the Holy Prophet (Pbuh). And all the later masahif were based on what was dictated by the Holy Prophet himself. Th Prophet (Pbuh) had more than 40 companions who usually worked as scribes. To mention a few they include Abu Bakr, 'Umar, 'Uthman, 'Ali, 'Abdullah bin Masud, Talha, Sa'd, Huzaifa, Ubayy bin Ka'b, Abdullah bin Abbas, Abdullah bin Zubar, 'Abdullah bin Sai'b, Zaid bin Thabit, Abu Hurairah, Abu Darda, Ma'az bin Jabal, Anas bin Malik, Abu Musa Al-'Ashari, Mu'awiyyah, Sayyidah 'Aisha, Sayyidah Umm Salmah, Sayyidah Hafsa and many more. Zaid bin Thabit, one of the chief scribes relates: "I used to write down the revelation for the Holy Prophet, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him. When the revelation came to him he felt intense heat and drops of perspiration used to roll down his body like pearls. When this state was over I used to fetch a shoulder bone or a piece of something else. He used to go on dictating and I used to write it down. When I finished writing the sheer weight of transcription gave me the feeling that my leg would break and I would not be able to walk anymore. Anyhow when I finished writing, he would say, 'Read!' and I would read it back to him. If there was an omission or error he used to correct it and then let it be brought before the people." Mu'jam Al-Tabarani Al-Awst, Hadith 1913. Dar al-Haramain, Cairo, 1415 AH This^^ is a categorical proof that Companions used to write Qur'an in the supervision of the Prophet (pbuh) and got it checked from him before making it public. Also there are proofs that during the life time of the Prophet (pbuh) the written manuscripts of Qur'an were there. In fact writing of the Qur'an was in practice from the early days of Islam as evident from the incident leading to conversion of one of the closest companions, ‘Umar bin al-Khattab, when he found his sister and brother-in-law with a parchment on which the verses of Surah Taha (chapter 20) were written. Sunan al-Darqutni, Hadith 441, Al-Resalah Publications, Beirut, 2004 Al-Zayl’i said it is a good (jayyid ) narration. See Nasab al-Raya (vol.1 p.199 Muhammad 'Awwama ed.) There are some other traditions which indicate that Companions had written copies of complete or incomplete Quran. For example; Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: “Allah's Messenger forbade the people to travel to a hostile country carrying (copies of) the Quran.” Sahih Bukhari, Book 52, Hadith 233 Obviously these traditions are categorical evidence that the Companions used to have written copies of the Qur’an even during the life time of the Holy Prophet and that it was not something unusual. Likewise, there is evidence for the manuscripts of the Qur’an in the instruction of th Prophet to Hakim bin Hizam when he sent him to Yemen as a governor. He said: “Do not touch the Qur’an except when you are in the state of purity.” Mustadrak al-Hakim, Hadith 6051, Dar al-Kotob al- Ilmiyya, Beirut, 1990 Al-Hakim classified it as Sahih. Al-Dhahabi agreed with him. Also It was narrated that Abu Hurairah said: “The Messenger of Allah said: ‘ The rewards of the good deeds that will reach a believer after his death are: Knowledge which he taught and spread; a righteous son whom he leaves behind; a copy of the Qur’an that he leaves as a legacy; a mosque that he built; a house that he built for wayfarers; a canal that he dug; or charity that he gave during his lifetime when he was in good health. These deeds will reach him after his death. Sunan Ibn Majah, Book 1, Chapter 20, Hadith 242. Classified as Hasan by Albani I can go on and on like that but lemme stop here. Also, kindly consider that your friends of the prophet were still collecting information/revelation from the prophet till his dying day. So that would make it impossible for the Quran to be ready before his death.My first point clears the above. |
PastorKun:Uthman is one of the companion of the prophet (pbuh). Can you say the same for Constantine? |
AllNaijaBlogger:It was compiled not written as you claimed To prevent disputes about which verses should be considered divinely inspired, Othman had this definitive version compiled. It was completed in the year 651, only 19 years after Muhammad’s death.Something not available or not in written cannot be compiled, is'nt it? |
tit:Has he killed any of your relations? If he is a killer what is stopping GEJ from arresting him? again "mumu" that is your name ![]() |
IS APC NOW THE RULING PARTY? Blame APC for boko haram,blame APC for corruption,blame APC for Biafra new plate number,blame APC for kidnappings,,blame APC for armed robberies,blame APC for oil theft,blame APC for increase in Nepa tarriff without adequate power supply,blame APC for devaluation of Naira,blame APC for high cost of cement,blame APC for fuel increase ,blame APC for1billion Naira budget for feeding,blame APC for fuel subsidy scam ,,Haba majority of us are not fools, ."AN INCOMPETENT LEADER ALWAYS LOOKING FOR UNNECESSARY EXCUSES FOR HIS FAILURE" |
Delafruita:Indeed he needs a lobotomy |
tit:So GEJ should kill Buhari in retaliation abi "mumu" thats ur name |
yakubuomowumi:Sire I believe you are the brainless one here |
funkyjms:thanks bruv, i apprc8. i wil update u shortly |
yakubuomowumi:stop this madness |
funkyjms:which thread ![]() |
Using the Ministry of Justice to scuttle the use of PVCs through the judiciary would be a grievous abuse of thebpowers of incumbency and we as citizens should be concerned that such a case even arose in the first place.http://blogs.premiumtimesng.com/?p=166898 |
saibinc:Hello, Please save me from these thieves called MTN, theyhave been swindling my money since about 2weeks ago, their one day data (10mb) doesnt take 30minutes b4 it vanishes, opening my FB or twitter page and the data is gone. Last week i subscribed for the one day data of 50mb for #200 and i was aving an extra #600credit on my phone, unknown to me b4 the day runs awt both the 50mb and the credit are gone. I called their CC and the later wS busy asking some irrelevant question and later ask me to hold on for a while, after wasting my time for about 15minutes she asked me to call back, and by the time i called back another person picked and was asking another fooolish question just like the former. Please help me....how do i swindle them of free data too? |
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