First of all, am a Christian, not just that, Am someone who searches for truth. This post is not meant to encourage any form of violence, either, physical, spiritual, social or verbal violence.


Ok, well I study the Bible, including the Qur’an, Yes I really do. But before now I used to believe God is One, but that thought got obliterated when I started reading both the Bible and Quran. So first I’ll be talking ‘bout God in both the Muslim and the Christian terms.

GOD

To the Muslims God is not only a harsh, wrathful God, even though he is those things too. The Muslims considers his God all-loving and merciful, sura 11:90 says “Ask for forgiveness of your Lord, then repent to him; surely my lord is All-compassionate, All-loving” and Sura 84:14 says, “He is the all-forgiving, all-loving”. The Quran is clear that Allah is Compassionate and merciful, but aside from the two passages(as above) where God is called the “All-loving”, there’s not a single passage in the Quran that God loves any part of mankind, nor is there a single verse that shows we can relate with God, although God is believed to be a person. Unlike the Christian, the Muslim cannot have a personal relationship with God. Now in the scriptures we learnt that those who trust in Christ do the will of the father (God), and have been redeemed and adopted as sons (Romans 8:14-15; Galatians 3:26). We are heirs of God (Galatians 4:7) and the Father deals with us as His children (Matthew 12:47; Mark 3:35; Hebrews 12:5-7). We can even be called His friends (John 15:13-15; James 2:23). On the other hand, those that deny the son have the devil for their father (John 8:44).
According to Sura 42:11 God has no likeness, is transcendent (sura 4:171), is unknowable (apart from revelation), and is wholly other and totally different. He is neither physical nor spirit. But the Bible contradicting the Quran, tells us we have been created in God’s likeness (Genesis 1:26-27) and we have knowledge of God in our hearts (Romans 1:19-20). Moreover, the bible tells us God is spirit(John 4:24).

Another thing that has been bothering me in the Quran is[b] “abrogation”(naskh)[/b], a legal term referring to the “destroying or the annulling of a former law by an act of the legislative power, by constitution authority, or by usage.” This is taught in three separate places in the Quran. Sura 2:100/106 says, “and for whatever verse we abrogate or cast into oblivion, we bring one better or like it”, sura 13:39 says[b] “Every term has a book. God blots out, and he establishes whatsoever he will; and with him is the mother of all books”[/b]; sura 16:101 says “When We substitute one revelation for another, – and Allah knows best what He reveals , they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not.
Now if God is the All-knowing, on what basis is there a need to substitute? Jesus said in Matthew 5:17 that he has not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it . Scripture is never abrogated, because God never change (Malachi 3:6). so if the Quran is obliterated we encounter several problems like:
1. Can the Quran be trusted?, because it contains “divinely inspired” contradictions. If God has a history of abrogating his own revelation, the “eternal speech of God,” how can one be certain that he will not abrogate it in the future?

2. It may be argued that it will not be abrogated in the future since Mohammed was “the last prophet”. But how do we know that he will not abrogate that and send us more prophets?

3. If God can abrogate his eternal speech, then how can we trust him with our eternal soul? Shall we depend on his mercy? How do we know he will continue to be merciful as he was in the past, who even know if he has been merciful in the past? Since the mercy section in the Quran may themselves actually be abrogation/substitutions.

4. If God has done any abrogating, as the Quran indicates, it does not indicate progressive revelation, which is additive, but rather contradiction and annulment, which subtracts from revelation since at least some portion of past revelation has been cancelled. This would mean that God either did not know how future contingent events would turn out, or he did but purposefully changed his mind.

5. If God can abrogate past divine revelation it seems to indicate intellectual weakness at the very least. It not only causes deficiency for omniscience, since he did not have foreknowledge to avoid the need for abrogation, but also for omnipotent (because he did have foreknowledge he apparently did not have the power to carry out effective preventive measures), as well as other attributes.

Now I’ll be talking ‘bout Jesus in Both terms

JESUS
To Muslims Jesus is merely one of the prophets of Allah (Sura 4:171; 5:74). According to Islam, the prophet Muhammad supersedes Jesus. Jesus Christ is not the Son Of God or a part of any trinity (Sura 5:17; 5:116; 19:35), and he was a slave whom God showed favor (Sura 43:59) but yet we are told the messiah is not a slave in sura 4:172. And he did not atone for anyone’s sin he was himself sinless and was close to God. Now talking about the resurrection of Jesus, various Muslim Tradition said he miraculously substituted Judas Iscariot for himself on the cross, or that God miraculously delivered him from the hands of the Romans and Jews before he could be Crucified . While most Muslims believe that Jesus was taken bodily into heaven without having died (Sura 4:157). However, Sura 19:33 says he died and would be resurrected.

I NEED ANSWERS PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!

optional1:



Lol
oga for your village their eyes don tear pass madman rag... My village still keep their girls for men coming from obodo oyibo to marry them off....

Lwkm see as you dey deceive yourself...

Lennycool:



You're ignoring the point, Jesus promised you anything in his name, even if it seemed impossible. All this long write-ups are unnecessary.

what point am i ignoring ? . You know, i can not force you nor any other atheist to acquiesce to the fact that y'all arguments are baseless, despite the fact that it stands baseless...you gotta admit to the fact that you speak ill of the bible. I don't even know what you atheist try to do, you contradict the bible, try to contort the mind of those trying to get to know 'bout the bible, even when the truth is pellucid.

Lennycool:


Don't you have faith he'll heal you.
Why would God need the help of medical practitioners

Christianity is funny

I Don't really get. Does God really need the help of medical practitioners? the answer is a Fat NO!!!
so because he's supernatural and immortal if you are physically injured, he'll just say "OH!! am the most powerful, since he/she has faith i'll heal 'em".. they are things that faith alone cannot do... Those who feel it's God's will that Christians always be healed often ask, "since Jesus healed everyone that came to him while he was on earth, why would he not heal everyone who comes to him today(as long as they have faith), especially since Jesus is the same, yesterday, today and forever(Hebrews 13:8 ) .

Now, scripture nowhere states Jesus healed everyone who was brought to him during his days. apostle John, stating at the end of his gospel noted that "many other things" were done by Jesus that were not recorded. whether those things included "non-healings", we do not know, but what we do know that was recorded, including the healings, were recorded so that "Ye might believe that Jesus is the christ, the son of God; and by believing ye might have life through his name(John 20:31). they were not recorded to convince us that physical healing is guaranteed for all.

Healing came from Christ at his will, regardless of the individual's faith. He healed those who believe( mattew 8:13) and those who do not believe(John 9:1-38)

Lennycool:

Oh sorry perhaps I went too far. LET ME SIMPLIFY IT
A 100 People Are Sick, They Are All Prayed Upon.
1 Receives MIRACULOUS Healing And Only That One Steps Out.
THEREFORE COINCIDENCE.

Should I add diagrams ebuka?

what do you mean? coincidence? so, supposing the one that was healed was not among the 100, wuld he/she have received it?

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by [1] his Spirit that dwelleth in you.


physical healing in its farthest sense can only be a result of the transformation of our death-doomed bodies into bodies like christ's resurrected body.

Lennycool:

What do you mean?
I just explained why pascals wager makes no sense

[b][/b]supposing you were praying for a big job(lets not use pray let us say you were wishing to have a job) and surprisingly you got the job, exactly the position you wanted to be. What do you call that? coincidence?

[color=#000000][/color]"Gun wild" the name is uttered, veterans scampers/
you ain accoladed for the verses, your bars are wack, man!!/
purport being a text god and shii buh you never hard, yes/
tsunami shii, am a disaster, who's making 'kill' like a thermal chamber!!/

Open c/o

Lennycool:

Not this again.
This whole theory is based on the fact that there is only one God, but there are in truth thousands, what if you're believing in the wrong God and you die and find out Zeus was real after all?
Your theory doesn't work then.
Also according to christian lore belief isn't the only prerequisite for heaven. So even if you believe in God, sin will still take you to hell along side the atheist.
Belief doesn't guarantee anything.

Sure belief, faith and being without sin doesn't guarantee (2 corinthians 12-7-10)... even the scripture never states that jesus healed everyone who was ever brought to him during his lifetime.... btw there isnt only one God i'd say, judging from the beliefs that accompanies it.

Lennycool:
The experiment goes like this, next time you have a physically visible injury (I insist on visible because most so called healings are just placebo effects that alter our mental state, if its visible no matter how well you feel the cut would still be there, your altered mind has little effect on the physical) , like a cut on your skin, a burn e.t.c you should pray to God to heal you. If prayer really worked you should be healed in a matter of minutes or atmost an hour.
But many reading this already know the prayer won't work and might already be coming up with these excuses

Faith: If it doesn't work most might come up with the excuse that they don't have enough faith, yet Jesus said that if only you possess faith as small as a mustard seed you should be able to move mountains, so that much faith shouldn't be required for a simple injury.

Testing God: Again most might come up with the excuse that they are testing God, but again this would be wrong, you have an injury and you're in pain, you ask your heavenly father to heal you. How is this testing God?

God has his own time:,Another excuse might be that God takes his time, but again this is just another attempt to deny the obvious, why should God wait that long to heal you of something that is presently causing you pain?

You can't deny the obvious, the prayer won't work because no one is answering them.

The Templeton foundation has even carried out research on prayers, and found them even detrimental to the health of sick patients.

you know its better to believe in the existence of GOd and die knowing that hell doesn't exist, than to doubt the existence of God and die, knowing that hell exist( In as much it does exist though)

MissYuzedo:



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this song be wack....shulda say a wack gospel/secular song.

Tsswww!!!.... its working

Emac34:
did i even give a fvck

You is physically and mentally broke, why should i expect you to give a fvck

Emac34:
What about when your stupid and senseless


You start creating useless threads

tssswww. . .You shoulda created your thread for that.

You start knowing you're gay when you tell your fellow nigga "HI"

I actually wanna battle though been a while

mengho:


ayam to lazy to correct am & android auto correction is d most stupid invention I have ever seen

Sir this your Code mixing ehn, btw was u sleeping when u typed dat

mengho:
So u actually believe any of these go happen.


SMH, let me go back to sleep, pls week me up by midday, I don't wanna miss one of my favorite shows on tv

we no go only 'WEEK' you up we go month you up

Hmmmm.... been a while tho'

Hmmm. ,

09-11-2015


The lie is tellin' you this script is written/
In as much as this shii is bloody, hell be let loose when i'm bringing pre-written!/
Impeccable when i rap, but your bars?? Please! Pleeaasse!! Its sickening!/
Bring ya gangs, flip da macs, you'll see the 'fours' err where like a state of emergency or military regime!/

The tactics Y'all duckling loses/
Your rap doesn't 'cleave-edge' like its 'stuck in boobies' !/
my punches ruin peeps/
And this would be like a 'swear to 007 sister' its 'causing bruises'/

We doubt your scripts, yes fool!/
You think what this gays bring wreck crews?/
Call a nigga, he should assemble his gang buh you'll see him 'lose-his-team' like his 'out of impetus'!/

[quote author=Jayscar post=39760690]Tick tock tick tock,,
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Leggo ur time's up!
they call me insane I know,, but am neutral
Its cause of the way I "flow",, "Brah-ma-putra" Verses go the way I go,, and as usual,,
They built With enuf punches to "impale my foes",,like am Dracula!!
Strange!!
Am not that good with multies/
But am used to raw diss/
With few or more kills/
Like the hood on 4th street!/
I hate this boring dudes claiming they best
Shouting kids kids,,like teachers in nursery schools!!
Seriously?
Claiming senior for text,,
now that's a fool at forty!!
U can say am cruel but Bleep it!
l" ama sheer immortal,,
Tha brings fear in mortals/
Even in the witches in "french quarters"/
Call me a fair original!!
#writersblock
[ Let's brawl sir!]

What I pen ridicule emcees/
God of the first z0diac sign,'imagine-aries lines' have this nerds split in two axis!/
Rap?? These men ain't even good at it/
Kobo for y'all thought, I coin deadly phrase, the verses still schools texcees!/

Its pellucid, this godly phrase runs within/
Y'all urchins gapes for the scripts/
Chuka is proof, i 'storm' the stage y'all shrieking !/
You all gonn be in the soup if your plan is to 'curry favour with me' !/

Am 'never outta word' its why what I write is sick/
'Give insights' to this blind gimmicks!/
Am a problem I'll 'Rat on this vets' make 'em 'de-mise' in this!/
Dig?? And you all are 'thermophobic', reason i throw punch and you all get 'scared by the hit'!/

I cackles hearing you ranting you scare foes/
Nah, nah you flop in that bro/
I should be accoladed for the best flow!/
Shii is y'all glads 'stay-numb' like breast bones !/
Gitit? I said y'all 'sternum' like breast bones!/

The brute scripts unfolds!/
Apart doing it verbally, physically knives be pulling your toes!/
If a glad says he's cruel with tough prose/
I'll chase him fiercely, making him run '4 40's' like he was 'looking for loan' !/

Hmmm. . .

Call out anyone?? Am new here tho'

hail y'all gods! . . Am new here