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kingsleybrave:
I pity ur full generation.......

I have no pity for your generation that left Nigeria like this. Being religious wicked people.

webizone:
Because of Free Will.

This is just dumb. It's like saying Humans can't fly because of free will.

Free will doesn't stop God from doing whatever he likes to humans, so why should it stop him from making sex something only married people can partake in?

Bigmikedagod:
pls where exactly in the bible did u see that God 'slept' with Mary
God is the creator of everything u see around u today. and all he needed to create the world was a word. why do u think its impossible for him to utter a simple word and make Mary pregnant?
the thing is, the world is like a toy in his hands, he can make anything happen with just a WORD

So if he can do all this with just a word, why couldn't he just save the whole world with just a WORD?

sanerugwei:
Do you want to be unfortunate ...better tune down this rubbish talk...

Even with science a virgin can get pregnant without sex through artificial insemination...

So you think an all knowing God does not know how to perform much better feat?

So god impregnated a woman without her permission. Still bad.

AmazingELixir:


Mr man what exactly do people like you believe in...what could possibly make you take this posture about spirituality and the existence of a supreme being?

There is no such thing as a supreme being. At least not the one you believe in.

God was made by man.

If he can't give me 10 sure odds, I need not know anything

Kcuf:
lol this one don mad � �

When they kpansh you and pay your father to marry you, your eye go clear.

TeenDad:
Did Adam even marry Eve, God just gave him his missing rib and boom Cain and Abel came into existence

And they bleeped their sisters, incest.

amiibaby:
are u for real

Yes ma. God condoned rape(Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

And if I were to sleep with and impregnate you without your knowledge, is that not rape?

God that fukked Mary outside of marriage and without her knowledge, is that not rape?

If God can rape a girl, I can continue seeing ashewo and watching porn.

Why couldn't god just make sex something that ONLY husband and wife can do and enjoy and make it impossible for unmarried people to even perform.

Useless god.

9inches:
And I used Germany and America as examples of where majority could be wrong. Your argument falls flat.

And I explained this.

Exactly, we agree on that! That's my point - the world where anything goes. Each individual has the right to his or her opinions and actions regardless how "good' or "bad." Now you see the result of your worldview?

Yes. The world where anything goes exists, it's today's world. But most people want a world where they and their families are safe so we can't just go around killing random people.

Not true.. Slavery is still around. Segregation is still around.

Yes. But it is practiced by those who are uneducated or not really advanced.

You seem to not listen to the news.

And you seem to think you are smart.

And it wasn't people of today that proscribed slavery.

I know this, that's why I said that people who proscribed slavery were incapable of doing anything about it for most of history.

So, slavery has always been OBJECTIVELY WRONG even when it was legal and most people found it to be a good thing. It was evil then as much as it is evil now.

So if it's always been evil, why does god allow it, and make laws about how to get slaves?

On what?

On the woman and child. Rape, genetic diseases and defects, age of the mother etc determine whether the woman can abort or not.

In your own view.

No, it's in the bible. Read it.

Not true. Reality doesn't bear that out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDDZIqPeHxc

Reality does bear that out, that's why we have ideologies, values, etc.

You're concerned about the giver of life taking life. Hmmm... Your logic is alien to me. It's not evil/wrong for God to play God by removing any of his creatures from the world. Only him sees what we don't see.

This same god claims he is an all loving god, claims he won't let harm come to us and so on. Him killing people is a violation of those statements.

No evidence of any of that in the bible. You have a right to your opinion but not your facts.

The global flood that god cause killed children.
The ten plagues of Egypt killed children.
The destruction of Sodom, Gomorrah, and the Canaanite kingdoms killed children.
These are but a few of the times where god has caused more harm to children than good.

9inches:
Just not true. Not everyone is outraged by the death of children. Hitler, Stalin, Hutus of Rwanda, Mao of China, a lot of psychopaths, etc, do not think killing people is morally wrong.

And since you've seen both my posts, you would realise I said MOST people. There are exceptions, and in case you want to say something else, I am talking of the majority of people in TODAY'S world.

If there is no God, then we don't have the moral right to infringe on anyone's beliefs, even if the person believes it's okay to kill babies to get ahead in life.

That's true. But it also goes both ways, that person has no moral right to prevent me from imprisoning him/her for thinking killing babies to get ahead in life.

Most Americans used to share the opinion that non whites are not humans and so are inferior to the whites. Slavery used to be legal in America.Was it it morally justified just because most people shared that same idea?

It wasn't morally justified at all, BY TODAY'S STANDARDS. Why? Because we of today know better and are better than those of yesterday, so therefore slavery is something that we don't need and as such is evil.

Also, those who knew better couldn't do anything because they were just too weak to oppose the established institution of slavery.

9inches:
Right. But in your worldview, there's no objective morality.

And now you think you've caught me.

Therefore, if sociopaths form a majority, it would be morally right for them to ra.pe, torture and kill children because there's no superordinate principle, a moral law giver other than them. Each person brings his/her own view and boom!... a law is made for the society and binding on everyone including the minority!

A society of sociopaths would be a disaster. It's not because they go about killing children, but because they are prone to failure. Also, most sociopaths aren't killiers, some are though. They don't hate children anymore than they hate black people.

Have you read anything about Stalin and Lenin of the Soviet Union, Hitler of Nazi Germany, Mao of China, Mussolini of Italy..?

Yes.

Do you believe abortion is good or evil?

It depends.

Do you know Ireland recently voted by referendum to legalize abortion?

Yes, I have family there.

It's only my worldview - a belief in God that supports the argument that something could be right or wrong.

Yet that same god does what is wrong. He himself disobeys his own laws.

Without it, we all have opinions of what is right or wrong.

That are the same for the most part because we humans like to think alike.

What does God say about children?

A lot of things. He also orders their slaughter which is what we're concerned about.

[s]At that time the disciples approached Jesus and said, "Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?" He called a child over, placed it in their midst, and said, "Amen, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoever receives one child such as this in my name receives me." (Matthew 18:2-6)

"See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that their angels in heaven always look upon the face of my heavenly Father." (Matthew 18:10)

And people were bringing children to him that he might touch them, but the disciples rebuked them. When Jesus saw this he became indignant and said to them, "Let the children come to me; do not prevent them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Amen, I say to you, whoever does not accept the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it." Then he embraced them and blessed them, placing his hands on them. (Mark 10: 13-16)[/s]

This just means god contradicts himself and he has done more harm to children than good.

9inches:
Is killing of babies evil/wrong? By whose standard?

Stop being obtuse. Unless you are a sociopath, killing children for no good reason should be wrong to you.

What does god say about the killing of children? scripture backed answer FROM YOU(and not some itk) is what I need.

9inches:
By whose subjective standard?

Everyone's standard. That's why there is outrage when children are killed.

Isn't that an opinion, or do you believe in moral absolutes?

It is an opinion, that most people share. Now, do you think killing children is evil?

Slimboy94:
Chaii
End time things

End time this and that. You people should come up with something new

9inches:
I see your point. Punishment is a morally wrong/evil in your worldview. Am I right?

No killing children is evil.

This man is actually right. For a long time, I thought that nigerians really were smart. But, this has proven that all we do is mostly make noise and rely on numbers.

I have suffered.

9inches:
What an intelligent argument... You won the debate even without saying much. Please teach me how to argue like you.

I just made a statement. If you want to be a better debater, provide evidence for your claims.

Mustsucceed:
Really ? But its not too early to be fornicating at even 14 or getting pregnant ,right ??
My dear kids grie up faster biologically now adays iam sure you have observed. You cant deny that you see even 19 year olds or lower look like 20

I'm not saying it's a bad thing. It's just unusual.

I thought I saw Oyedepo resurrected 848 people in one day.

Well, just more useless churches.

9inches:
Not Christianity but some churches

Keep quiet. All of Christianity na scam. You are a scammer.

This is a bit early

9inches:
We surely can measure the effects of God's workings. All we see and feel, material or immaterial, consciously or unconsciously... are all have a beginning. And if they have a beginning, there must be a CAUSE to their beginning. This is not so hard to process. It only requires pure consistent line of logic - a continuous chain of logical conclusions that follow one another gets you to the reality of an Uncaused Cause, a Source from which reality and the universe (which we know and struggle to understand) came into being.

And how do we know the cause is the Christian God?

This is amazing.