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Kenya might still be stuck in ethnic based democracy...youre stuck in one party dictatorship like china.Big difference.We are moving to issues based politics. You need to move out of CCM.We are making huge progress underpinned by a modern constitution, building institutions and soon will reap the benefits. WE ARE PUTTING FINAL FINISHES ON DEMOCRACY. Youre not even started..incapable of even new modern constitution. CCM one party rule since 1962.Worst in Africa

Kazikazi:
You are now running on empty tank

How will u have democracy while at the same time you are a tribalist?

The reason why only 2 tribes have ruled kenya since independence is enough to prove how far you are from democracy.

I would respect Malawian or Zambian democracy but never yours.

Yours is a tribalist type of fake democracy

Anyone finding himself placing Tanzania highly should relook his data before embarrassing themselves. You're country of dimwits who cannot even construct a coherent English sentence. HOW CAN YOU BE GOOD IN STATS.IMPOSSIBLE

Kazikazi:
The world bank I telling you Tanzania statistical agency Is second best in sub Saharan Africa. But you a kibera guy you are busy talking about magufuli. Is magufuli working in world bank?


I have all the reasons to doubt Kenya's figures

samorobo:
You are stupid. Go fight world bank

I already did.The world bank has to revise their methodology. Unlike you slowpoke I have worked for World Bank.The people there are not infallible.

We vote individuals after rigours elections. Youre only Africa country still under one party rule.60yrs under same constitution and same party.You don't do election..you bunch of lazy cowards wait for CCM to pick president. The only opposition that tried to challenge ccm ended in prison n exile.Bunch of the most unimaginative cowards under one party.

Kazikazi:
They have made a covenant with kalenjins support each other.
That's why since independence, only 2 tribes have ruled kenya.

Kalenjins and kikuyus


The situation is completely the opposite of Tanzania. We have been under different tribes for all these 6 presidents who have ruled the country.
And if that is not enough,we have folks like me who doesn't know the tribe of the current president.

TZ have passed that shithole level of being elected in the presidency by a tribe factor. TZ is at European levels

Kenya is creating wealth..Nigeria poverty. You have more Indians than Kenya . Dangote companies run by Indians

Obaaderemi2:
Those millionaires are mostly Indians. I don't know why they're celebrating this nonsense.

Until magufuli decided to cook data maybe

Kazikazi:
In subsaharan Africa, It's south Africa which has the best statistical agency followed by Tanzania

When I doubt your figures and asked u where are Tanzanian millionaires gone to,I know how dubious are your fake 'facts"

gallivant:
Tanzania and real estate is like oil and water. Please, feel free to compete with tiny Ghana.

https://housingfinanceafrica.org/app/uploads/PERCENT-URGAN-0-US8040.jpg

True.Ghana n Tanzanian n Zambia are buddies

Kazikazi:
Do u think I don't know that kenya have been ruled by only 2 tribes since independence? The kikuyu and kalenjins.These two have formed a pact of supporting each other. Now by that, I can guess your tribe is a kalenjin

kikuyu are 17.5 percent.

GeneralDae:
Keep repeating your falsehood if it makes you feel better.

Find yourself more credible source like your own budget...you spend about a trillion naira on your military...which is just 2.something billion..for 250k force..joke...huge joke..to match kenya you should spend 14 billion..

GeneralDae:
Why do you keep repeating this lie?

Where is the lie..our military is just 25,000 strong and we spend that much..compared to your useless militia of 250 000 underpaid ill trained poorly equipped force..they cannot deal with internal issues.Your police force same problem. Underpaid under equipped useless. SPEND YOU MONEY WHERE IT MATTERS..EDUCATION..SECURITY..THEN BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE ELECTRICITY N ROADS N WATER. Who spend 12 billion in fuel susbidy..is everyone abnormal in the Zoo

maidaboi:
trash I can see your pains in this Post

I have no pain but pity for Nigeria. How much do you spend on your military force of 250,000...about same kenya spend on 25,000.How much do you spend on intelligence..Kenya spend 400m dollars on 1,000 intelligence unit.Go to police...same story. How do you expect underpaid underequiped security without even health n life insurance to confront thugs.You spend all the money in stupid fuel subsidy.Yet spend nothing on electricity.

Enduring lesson never to elect a goat.In kenya we had Moi and we learnt the hard lesson.Now by law only degree holder can become president or governor. Buhari should never have been elected to lead any country. He is as good as a pumpkin.Lets hope old Tinubu will be courageous enough to institute reforms otherwise the Zoo will continue hurtling into deeper poverty, debt and dysfunction

Jamestown123:
You can imagine. Just look at how the naira is hanging on for a possible collapse. Price of goods, has gone up, 400% or more. If this is not clueless ness then I don't know what that is.

Obaaderemi2:
It's not about Ruto. It's about the fact that they'll sink deeper into debt. But Ruto should stop deceiving them.

Imf are full of praise on ruto as we cut deficit to 4 percent of gdp...we have been doing 8 percent recently. That is huge.

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GeneralDae:
Ruto is subject to the IMF dictates. Not his fault.
There was a review of their 38 month loan program from the IMF, to determine if Kenya deserves another loan or not.

No, imf have found a soul mate in Ruto, because they don't need to lecture kenya.Ruto and Zambia new president are prudently managing their county affairs. IMF is not an enemy.The enemy is Africa lazy stupid thieving political class like Ghana.IMF end up looking bad because they arrive when the patient is dying and get blamed for her death.If you demonstrate to imf that you know what your are doing..they back off like they doing in Kenya.. and support you.If you misbehave they will insist on micromanagement

Strawman argument. NO GOV CAN STOP BORROWING. You reduce borrowing

Obaaderemi2:
Kenya is battling for its life. They have no option but to keep borrowing. Only a fool would take Ruto seriously on his talk about shunning borrowing.

Invest 12B a year in cheap petrol susbidy n less than kenya in security..something like 2B..AND YOU GET A ZOO where security is non existence. Fund your security sector to deal with crime.kenya we spend 1/3 of budget in education..at 5-6 billion dollars the next security at 3 billion. Nigeria the zoo spend half the budget on fuel susbidy.12B.Then nothing on education n security.The Zoo

GeneralDae:
Believe you me sincerely, Tinubu and all state Governors must as a matter of urgency ensure intelligence gathering and effective policing administered by the local Governments in all 774 local Government areas.

There must be synergy between all of them and the police/army. Trying to solve security of the entire Nigeria just from Abuja with IG of police based in Abuja is in my books a waste of time.

If Buhari failed in security, this is what I believe he has specifically failed to do. A security restructuring ( if something like that exist).

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Obaaderemi2:
You are not even on the pisa ranking, monkey

We shall be in 2025 when kenya participate in maiden pisa assessments..everyone knows Kenya education is high class..ask the academics cheating industry..I know of Kenyans in village writing phd at ivy league. Kenyans earn a billion dollars annually doing assignments n academic research for kids abroad.

Obaaderemi2:
Should I post Nigeria's performance against Kenya's performance at the International Maths Olympiad to shut up your big mouth again? Yes, UK is doing poorly now compared to other oecd countries. Anybody can speak on that.

slowpoke that is not representative like pisa or such

Try compete with Lome in Togo. You dont understand squat about Kenya.

Just40:
dream on against expert advice
Have you realized that Uganda and Rwanda are no longer using your port for their import and export ?

Why would I create my own rank. There are many port ranking that are more credible. Someone here just smoked a lot of weed when it come to Africa and ranked Somalia ports with Tema highly.


We have 15 more port indices out there slowpoke. Only desperado go for a single story or index.

World Bank's Logistics Performance Index (LPI)
United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) Liner Shipping Connectivity Index (LSCI)
JOC Port Productivity Index
World Economic Forum's Global Competitiveness Index (GCI)
Shanghai International Shipping Institute (SISI) Global Port Development Index (GPDI)
Drewry Global Container Terminal Operators Annual Review: Drewry's annual review assesses container terminal operators worldwide based on factors like handling efficiency, productivity, and capacity utilization.

Containerisation International Global Top 100 Ports: Containerisation International publishes an annual ranking of the top 100 container ports globally, which provides an overview of their throughput and performance.

Lloyd's List One Hundred Ports: Lloyd's List, a maritime intelligence provider, releases an annual ranking of the top 100 container ports based on factors like volume handled, efficiency, and development plans.

Journal of Commerce (JOC) Top 50 Global Container Ports: The JOC releases an annual list of the top 50 container ports worldwide, based on container throughput and performance metrics.

Baltic Exchange's Dry Bulk Terminal Performance Index (DBTPI): The DBTPI ranks dry bulk terminals based on their efficiency in handling and storage of dry bulk commodities.

IHS Markit Port Performance Program (PPP): The PPP evaluates and ranks port performance based on key performance indicators (KPIs) such as berth productivity, dwell time, and ship waiting time.

Container Management Global Top Container Terminal Operators: Container Management provides an annual ranking of the top container terminal operators globally, based on factors like container throughput and efficiency.

American Association of Port Authorities (AAPA) Port Industry Statistics: The AAPA releases comprehensive statistics on port performance in North, Central, and South America, including indicators like cargo tonnage, vessel calls, and TEUs (Twenty-Foot Equivalent Units) handled.

Shanghai Shipping Exchange Port Efficiency Index (PEI): The PEI ranks container terminals based on their efficiency and productivity, taking into account factors like berthing time, waiting time, and cargo handling.

World Ports Sustainability Program (WPSP) Port Performance Index: The WPSP's Port Performance Index evaluates the sustainability and performance of ports worldwide, considering social, economic, and environmental aspects.

Just40:
Go and create your own ranking

I know you hates facts .... Basically all west African ports are more efficient than yours.
When we were all investing in increasing tug boats capacity, berths and clearing bottlenecks at our ports, you guys were sleeping.

In 2021, Mombasa ranked almost at the same place 316 and the only ports it was better than on this ranking was Dar Es Salaam

They are happy as long as they have overtaken kenya - even if they are highly ranked with Modagishu, Berbera, TinCan, Lagos port - I mean these are some worst ports in the world.

Best most efficient ports in Sub Sahara in South Africa, Mauritus and maybe Lome in Togo. Then Mombasa Kenya follows. Any other ranking is pure BS.

gallivant:
Nobody cares about Tanzania. It's wrong because the most efficient ports in Africa(South Africa) are ranked last, not because of a little shithole like Tanzania.

We are not peers in almost any aspect of life. Kenya is so much ahead of lazy bongolala - any kenya - find it insulting when you drag us to your level.

Jinga sana.

Kazikazi:
Why should u compete with a food sufficient nation?

Go compete with less efficient ports,Dar is above u

There are a dime dozen rankings, indices and name it. I am not desperate Tanzanian that keep one or two 10yr old newspaper cutting to make my point.

No way Port Louis will do worse than some of those Somalia and Dar Port.

Whoever came with that list - need to have it validated - before he does the next.

TinCan of Nigeria - where a container takes a month - or ports in Somalia without any single crane - where goods are removed by hand?

Kazikazi:
Go cry on tweeter

I don't know why are you surprised?
Example,Durban port was engulfed with protests for the past 2 years which made the efficiency to drop.We now have a lot of Zimbabwean using a Dar port after ditching the Durban one.

Same thing in mombasa,we have seen some folks who have ditched mombasa for Dar port,and the mombasa port have received less cargo I the past year.The reason why folks have ditched mombasa is its efficiency is low.

Zoogeria advising others including UK and Kenya on education. Please grow some shame.

Kenya will participate in PISA of 2025 - and we will know how our CBC is doing.

Definitely constant reforms in education system is the only way out.

Nigeria - try to fix basic like WORLD LEADING OUT OF SCHOOL KIDS - before you talk about maths. Those millions of ALmajiri kids need any schooling outside begging school of madrassa.

Get them to school - before purporting to advice UK or Kenya - both countries are waaaaaaaaay ahead of Nigeria in all education metrics.

Obaaderemi2:
That's just Length * Breadth. Solve C and B separately and add the two areas. You get 2x²+24x+46... Primary school geometry.

The UK is making a huge mistake with its youths by lying to them that they could become anything they want, without telling them that it requires work. They have become soft especially in terms of STEM education. That's why I laugh at poor countries like little India trying to copy nonsense from abroad. Little Indian kids now learn how to make scarecrows in classrooms instead of learning multiplication tables.

We will never compete with Tanzania;

We are competing with Durban and Capetown. The likes of Port Louis of Mauritus.

You can be top ranked with Tema, Mogadishu and Berbera for all we care 0 That is your level - Somali and Ghana.

Kazikazi:
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Something is wrong because Tanzanian port have been ranked above you?
I feel your pain. Time changes.people change.situations change.life changes.

Of course in your deranged mind - nothing is wrong with such data . Tema is as good as Mogadishu - and are better than Durban or Capetown.

Someone insane must have been behind this .

Djibouti SSA 26
Berbera SSA 144
Conakry SSA 189
Dakar SSA 196
Matadi SSA 197
Tema SSA 205
Mogadiscio SSA 221
Beira SSA 223
Freetown SSA 226
Toamasina SSA 227
Takoradi SSA 245
Maputo SSA 248
Port Victoria SSA 249
Lagos (Nigeria) SSA 260
Mayotte SSA 267
Monrovia SSA 271
Owendo SSA 275
Port Elizabeth SSA 291
Walvis Bay SSA 293
Douala SSA 295
San Pedro (Cote D'ivoire) SSA 296
Port Reunion SSA 298
Onne SSA 302
Tin Can Island SSA 308
Dar Es Salaam SSA 312
Pointe-Noire SSA 315
Lome SSA 318
Kribi Deep Sea Port SSA 324
Mombasa SSA 326
Port Louis SSA 327
Cotonou SSA 330
Nouakchott SSA 331
Abidjan SSA 333
Luanda SSA 337
Ngqura SSA 338
Durban SSA 341
Cape Town SSA 344

Just40:
there's nothing wrong with the methodology

The World Bank CPPI is what the world has looked out to for yearsand it comes out every year

This look like inversed

jibouti SSA 26
Berbera SSA 144
Conakry SSA 189
Dakar SSA 196
Matadi SSA 197
Tema SSA 205
Mogadiscio SSA 221
Beira SSA 223
Freetown SSA 226
Toamasina SSA 227
Takoradi SSA 245
Maputo SSA 248
Port Victoria SSA 249
Lagos (Nigeria) SSA 260
Mayotte SSA 267
Monrovia SSA 271
Owendo SSA 275
Port Elizabeth SSA 291
Walvis Bay SSA 293
Douala SSA 295
San Pedro (Cote D'ivoire) SSA 296
Port Reunion SSA 298
Onne SSA 302
Tin Can Island SSA 308
Dar Es Salaam SSA 312
Pointe-Noire SSA 315
Lome SSA 318
Kribi Deep Sea Port SSA 324
Mombasa SSA 326
Port Louis SSA 327
Cotonou SSA 330
Nouakchott SSA 331
Abidjan SSA 333
Luanda SSA 337
Ngqura SSA 338
Durban SSA 341
Cape Town SSA 344

Clearly something is wrong with methodology

Durban SSA 341
Cape Town SSA 344

Just40:
Africa most Efficient port is Djibouti, it ranks 26 in the world..

Somalia ranks 144
Casablanca ranks 159
Victoria port( Seychelles) ranks 170
Conakry port ranks 189
Dakar ranks 196
Tema ports rank 205 in the world
Freetown ranks 226
Takoradi ranks 245
Lagos ranks 260
Alexandria Egypt ranks 268
Port Elizabeth (SA) ranks 291
San Pedro (Ivory Coast) ranks 296
Tin Can Nigeria ranks 308
Dar Es Salaam ranks 312
Lomè ranks 318
Mombasa ranks 326 in the world

All the noise we were hearing from the Kenyans concerning Mombasa port efficiency was just noise like they usually make on this platform

Everyone knows how Dangote turned from salt and cement trader to owning 80% of market share by crushing competition and unfair federal laws - to selling cement very expensively to Nigeria after near monopoly - his market share has recently reduced to 60% - as he is now focussed on creating monopoly in the refined fuel sector.

You'll cry real tears.

GeneralDae:
You keep making this mistake. Dangote is not the only big player. Lafrage is very big and recently opened a very large cement plant in Nigeria.

BUA cement just keeps growing.

Dangote cement was 2500 naira for a long time until not long ago and the price varies across Nigeria. Some cement prices are cheaper than that of Dangote. Nigerians have the option of using those.

In recent years, the Nigerian cement industry has grown from import dependency to an export-thriving epicentre within Africa. The country possesses the largest cement industry within West Africa, with at least 12 registered companies amounting to a merged cement capacity of 58.9 Mt/yr. Dangote Cement is the largest cement producer in Nigeria and West Africa, manufacturing a combined share of more than 28.5 Mt/yr of cement capacity. Also, LafargeHolcim (through its subsidiary AshakaCem & Lafarge WAPCO) and BUA Group boost 18.9 Mt/yr and 11.5 Mt/yr of integrated cement capacity, respectively.