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tyson55:
Clearly all the moves done by BRIC's so far are to directly compete with the jewish banking system and the US dollar and from the looks of it, they just might win. When the US have to ask others not to join another banking system, you can just how nervous the US truly is and rightfully so.

By getting rid of the dollar as an international currency and most importantly the petro dollar, trillions of worthless paper money will come down crashing on the US and EU countries such as England, France and Germany. Many billionaires agree that the US dollar will get hit badly soon (by 2015) and the US economy will fall hence if you have money, don't invest in the dollar.

Russia and China are buying a lot of gold to get rid of the dollar but somehow, gold prices are being manipulated to remain low. According to specialist around the globe, gold should be at least $2000.00 per ounce right now and keep on moving up and the demand is increasing even from some NATO nations who are getting nervous.

Kitco put out a good piece on the subject called "Gold Friendly BRICS Challenge the Dollar and the Fed".

Many countries are tired of the US games. The only way to defeat the US without shedding a drop of blood is by removing the greenback as the international currency and the Petro dollar. If they managed to accomplish what they clearly want, the US will become irrelevant in no time.

This is quite an interesting era as we just might see either WW3 which would take the US and many other countries out or just the fall of an empire just by affecting it's dollar. Either way, the future is not looking good for the US.

Bro you can sing me the bold again and again and really it makes the US shiver to her bone marrow.

Syncan:
*singing* Surulere...

I no get strength for you this early morning, on a very good day.....

italo:
No worry. Time go come for you to talk, no be now.

Wetin make me like you be say you dey see vision and you know when the time isn't right I look forward to the right time too

Syncan:
hmmm...my first encounter with split personality.

Just when I thought that personality was never one

italo:
@ Sal C,

Personally, I'm not of the opinion that any side is right or wrong.

But ponder this: if the Palestians had the israeli military might and vice-versa, would Israel still exist?

Israel is still the nice guy, I bet you.

IS, Hamas, Al Shabaab, Boko Haram...all the same thing.

If you want, we can go deeper.

Yeah in my first post I clearly said Palestine isn't innocent too. Both sides seek the annihilation of the other but heck that won't happen in this 21st century,

For the records, I don't like Hamas, I seriously doubt their sincerity, their tactics sucks, but I don't agree with the idea of putting them on per with the likes of IS, if there is any thing the groups you mentioned have in common or appears to have in common, that would be their religious inclination but who really form and sponsor IsIL?

My annoyance with Israel today is they face civilians instead of militants, how will arresting 5 year old children solve their problem or enable a two state solution, or arresting crippled civilians, you didn't hear me blame Israel so during the war in Gaza because I believe they were provoked and had to do what they did save for few silly thing they did. Though am never in support of war. But the mighty Israel force is becoming barbaric and a big joke, and these actions can only aid Palestine get what they want while Israel gets more boycott if not sanctioned.

Syncan:
See as she threatens me this early morning.

Did she? If she tries that again just let me know and I will deal with her

italo:
Who you dey threaten? Talk make we hear!

Lol...

Threaten ke, who dash me strength na, I mean it's better I don't even start, because if I do, it would be more than you can ever imagine and there will be no end in sight

Syncan:
No mind am jare.

It's too early for me to spread mat atop your matter,

Shey you know say your dey find my wahala

italo:
Your own na to spread mat for other people tori.

If na you now you no go talk anything.

Good morning.

Believe me bro, there's no harm in mat spreading

And I bet you don't wanna hear me talk, just pray not to

Good morning to you too.

italo:
There was a crowd...but I'm finally zooming in on someone. It's looking good.

I hope it goes well, if it's God's will.

I don't know why but the bold got me laughing

Weldone bro, the Lord is your sure guide and muscle.

Because he loves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him;  I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.
He will call on me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble,  I will deliver him and honor him. Ps 91:14-15

Today we are praying for MariaGorreti

May our prayers for you today find favour in the sight of God through Christ our Lord.


Good morning brethren and do have a blessed day ahead

I look forward to the day you will post the israel crimes too to balance it out, and no I am not a muslim, I don't need to be a muslim to say the truth, am a christian who calls a spade a spade. And oh the iDF shot a fourteen year palestinian boy dead today.

chidima:
Good morning everybody. So much has been happeninf on this thread, the prayers, the discussions on the synod and also on Sede vacantists.
For me, i feel the Holy Spirit inspired and directed the synod. You like it or not the church is praying and God will never allow the smoke of the devil to overwhelm the church. I am confident on the word of God and his promise to always be with his church. That being said, we should never stop praying for the church.

On Sedes as the call themselves, I remember the first question i asked on this thread was about them and how to counter thier so "erroneous" point. If you all remember, I said my brother had just become a member and my family was at loss at what to do. As at the time i brought it up here, many of us had not heard of them. Trust it is good that catholics are becoming aware and you have to know your faith or less trust me, you will sing thier song. As some one who has one as a brother, it has not been easy. Their main target is always the pope. They are always ready with issues against the pope. @ Salc, I have a feeling that this your fears about the pope was instilled in you from you sedevacantist friend. My brother almost did that to me.
Well, we have to keep praying for them and the church. May God bless us all. Amen

Lol, No Sis I don't have a sedesvacantist friend and I have no fear about the pope because I know he cannot single handedly make a decision, I WAS rather scared of the outcome of the just concluded synod but in all I thank God and feel more at ease now.

Looks like am gonna spread mat

Turning the old page +holy gossip

Syncan:
Isn't it going to be a dead and buried subject if the general synod turns it down once and for all? Being where he is and knowing the pressures from all corners why wont he trust the Holy Spirit who spoke in this synod to speak in the general? Even if he hopes, let the Holy Spirit lead. Did Jesus not sing the mercy song too?

May the Holy Spirit lead.

Syncan:
Do you mind elaborating on this?

Is there really much to elaborate? From his beautiful speech up there, one would think the matter is settled but why retaining it for next year's synod? Isn't there other issues to be discussed? Isn't this issue discussed and voted on? That part is where I tend to think he's hoping for something else. Btw we know he too have been singing the mercy song too

Dear Eminences, Beatitudes, Excellencies, Brothers and Sisters,

With a heart full of appreciation and gratitude I want to thank, along with you, the Lord who has accompanied and guided us in the past days, with the light of the Holy Spirit.

From the heart I thank Cardinal Lorenzo Baldisseri, Secretary General of the Synod, Bishop Fabio Fabene, under-secretary, and with them I thank the Relators, Cardinal Peter Erdo, who has worked so much in these days of family mourning, and the Special Secretary Bishop Bruno Forte, the three President delegates, the transcribers, the consultors, the translators and the unknown workers, all those who have worked with true fidelity and total dedication behind the scenes and without rest. Thank you so much from the heart.

I thank all of you as well, dear Synod fathers, Fraternal Delegates, Auditors, and Assessors, for your active and fruitful participation. I will keep you in prayer asking the Lord to reward you with the abundance of His gifts of grace!

I can happily say that – with a spirit of collegiality and of synodality – we have truly lived the experience of “Synod,” a path of solidarity, a “journey together.”

And it has been “a journey” – and like every journey there were moments of running fast, as if wanting to conquer time and reach the goal as soon as possible; other moments of fatigue, as if wanting to say “enough”; other moments of enthusiasm and ardour. There were moments of profound consolation listening to the testimony of true pastors, who wisely carry in their hearts the joys and the tears of their faithful people. Moments of consolation and grace and comfort hearing the testimonies of the families who have participated in the Synod and have shared with us the beauty and the joy of their married life. A journey where the stronger feel compelled to help the less strong, where the more experienced are led to serve others, even through confrontations. And since it is a journey of human beings, with the consolations there were also moments of desolation, of tensions and temptations, of which a few possibilities could be mentioned:

 - One, a temptation to hostile inflexibility, that is, wanting to close oneself within the written word, (the letter) and not allowing oneself to be surprised by God, by the God of surprises, (the spirit); within the law, within the certitude of what we know and not of what we still need to learn and to achieve. From the time of Christ, it is the temptation of the zealous, of the scrupulous, of the solicitous and of the so-called – today – “traditionalists” and also of the intellectuals.

 - The temptation to a destructive tendency to goodness [it. buonismo], that in the name of a deceptive mercy binds the wounds without first curing them and treating them; that treats the symptoms and not the causes and the roots. It is the temptation of the “do-gooders,” of the fearful, and also of the so-called “progressives and liberals.”

 - The temptation to transform stones into bread to break the long, heavy, and painful fast (cf. Lk 4:1-4); and also to transform the bread into a stone and cast it against the sinners, the weak, and the sick (cf Jn 8:7), that is, to transform it into unbearable burdens (Lk 11:46).

 - The temptation to come down off the Cross, to please the people, and not stay there, in order to fulfil the will of the Father; to bow down to a worldly spirit instead of purifying it and bending it to the Spirit of God.

 - The temptation to neglect the “depositum fidei” [the deposit of faith], not thinking of themselves as guardians but as owners or masters [of it]; or, on the other hand, the temptation to neglect reality, making use of meticulous language and a language of smoothing to say so many things and to say nothing! They call them “byzantinisms,” I think, these things…

Dear brothers and sisters, the temptations must not frighten or disconcert us, or even discourage us, because no disciple is greater than his master; so if Jesus Himself was tempted – and even called Beelzebul (cf. Mt 12:24) – His disciples should not expect better treatment.

Personally I would be very worried and saddened if it were not for these temptations and these animated discussions; this movement of the spirits, as St Ignatius called it (Spiritual Exercises, 6), if all were in a state of agreement, or silent in a false and quietist peace. Instead, I have seen and I have heard – with joy and appreciation – speeches and interventions full of faith, of pastoral and doctrinal zeal, of wisdom, of frankness and of courage: and of parresia. And I have felt that what was set before our eyes was the good of the Church, of families, and the “supreme law,” the “good of souls” (cf. Can. 1752). And this always – we have said it here, in the Hall – without ever putting into question the fundamental truths of the Sacrament of marriage: the indissolubility, the unity, the faithfulness, the fruitfulness, that openness to life (cf. Cann. 1055, 1056; and Gaudium et spes, 48).

And this is the Church, the vineyard of the Lord, the fertile Mother and the caring Teacher, who is not afraid to roll up her sleeves to pour oil and wine on people’s wound; who doesn’t see humanity as a house of glass to judge or categorize people. This is the Church, One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic and composed of sinners, needful of God’s mercy. This is the Church, the true bride of Christ, who seeks to be faithful to her spouse and to her doctrine. It is the Church that is not afraid to eat and drink with prostitutes and publicans. The Church that has the doors wide open to receive the needy, the penitent, and not only the just or those who believe they are perfect! The Church that is not ashamed of the fallen brother and pretends not to see him, but on the contrary feels involved and almost obliged to lift him up and to encourage him to take up the journey again and accompany him toward a definitive encounter with her Spouse, in the heavenly Jerusalem.

The is the Church, our Mother! And when the Church, in the variety of her charisms, expresses herself in communion, she cannot err: it is the beauty and the strength of the sensus fidei, of that supernatural sense of the faith which is bestowed by the Holy Spirit so that, together, we can all enter into the heart of the Gospel and learn to follow Jesus in our life. And this should never be seen as a source of confusion and discord.

Many commentators, or people who talk, have imagined that they see a disputatious Church where one part is against the other, doubting even the Holy Spirit, the true promoter and guarantor of the unity and harmony of the Church – the Holy Spirit who throughout history has always guided the barque, through her Ministers, even when the sea was rough and choppy, and the ministers unfaithful and sinners.

And, as I have dared to tell you , [as] I told you from the beginning of the Synod, it was necessary to live through all this with tranquillity, and with interior peace, so that the Synod would take place cum Petro and sub Petro (with Peter and under Peter), and the presence of the Pope is the guarantee of it all.

We will speak a little bit about the Pope, now, in relation to the Bishops [laughing]. So, the duty of the Pope is that of guaranteeing the unity of the Church; it is that of reminding the faithful of  their duty to faithfully follow the Gospel of Christ; it is that of reminding the pastors that their first duty is to nourish the flock – to nourish the flock – that the Lord has entrusted to them, and to seek to welcome – with fatherly care and mercy, and without false fears – the lost sheep. I made a mistake here. I said welcome: [rather] to go out and find them.

His duty is to remind everyone that authority in the Church is a service, as Pope Benedict XVI clearly explained, with words I cite verbatim: “The Church is called and commits herself to exercise this kind of authority which is service and exercises it not in her own name, but in the name of Jesus Christ… through the Pastors of the Church, in fact: it is he who guides, protects and corrects them, because he loves them deeply. But the Lord Jesus, the supreme Shepherd of our souls, has willed that the Apostolic College, today the Bishops, in communion with the Successor of Peter… to participate in his mission of taking care of God's People, of educating them in the faith and of guiding, inspiring and sustaining the Christian community, or, as the Council puts it, ‘to see to it... that each member of the faithful shall be led in the Holy Spirit to the full development of his own vocation in accordance with Gospel preaching, and to sincere and active charity’ and to exercise that liberty with which Christ has set us free (cf. Presbyterorum Ordinis, 6)… and it is through us,” Pope Benedict continues, “that the Lord reaches souls, instructs, guards and guides them. St Augustine, in his Commentary on the Gospel of St John, says: ‘let it therefore be a commitment of love to feed the flock of the Lord’ (cf. 123, 5); this is the supreme rule of conduct for the ministers of God, an unconditional love, like that of the Good Shepherd, full of joy, given to all, attentive to those close to us and solicitous for those who are distant (cf. St Augustine, Discourse 340, 1; Discourse 46, 15), gentle towards the weakest, the little ones, the simple, the sinners, to manifest the infinite mercy of God with the reassuring words of hope (cf. ibid., Epistle, 95, 1).”

So, the Church is Christ’s – she is His bride – and all the bishops, in communion with the Successor of Peter, have the task and the duty of guarding her and serving her, not as masters but as servants. The Pope, in this context, is not the supreme lord but rather the supreme servant – the “servant of the servants of God”; the guarantor of the obedience and the conformity of the Church to the will of God, to the Gospel of Christ, and to the Tradition of the Church, putting aside every personal whim, despite being – by the will of Christ Himself – the “supreme Pastor and Teacher of all the faithful” (Can. 749) and despite enjoying “supreme, full, immediate, and universal ordinary power in the Church” (cf. Cann. 331-334).

Dear brothers and sisters, now we still have one year to mature, with true spiritual discernment, the proposed ideas and to find concrete solutions to so many difficulties and innumerable challenges that families must confront; to give answers to the many discouragements that surround and suffocate families.

One year to work on the “Synodal Relatio” which is the faithful and clear summary of everything that has been said and discussed in this hall and in the small groups. It is presented to the Episcopal Conferences as “lineamenta” [guidelines].

May the Lord accompany us, and guide us in this journey for the glory of His Name, with the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary and of Saint Joseph. And please, do not forget to pray for me! Thank you!

[The hymn Te Deum was sung, and Benediction given.]

Thank you, and rest well, eh?


http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2014/10/18/pope_francis_speech_at_the_conclusion_of_the_synod/1108944

Syncan:
Did you read his speech Salc?

I did, his speech and action doesn't seem same

Oh happy birthday too KingMEXX, may the Lord bless and keep you

Ubenedictus:
interesting choice of words, the pope took the neutral position. I read it a few days ago, He is a great referee, i didn't know one can say so many quotable and fine words without actually saying something that takes a stand.


Usually the sections not agreed in the synod are scrapped and new stuff are written and voted upon, i found it interesting that the pope decided to keep the paragraphs that weren't agreed upon in the final document and just published the result of the voting.

Everybody seems unhappy with card lorenzo, they seem think the tried to manipulate the synod.


Anyway till next year.

However we look at it, am not sure the pope took a neutral position in the real sense of neutrality, it's true he was silent during the synod, but silence in this context isn't same as being neutral,

At the end of the vote, he ought to scrap those paragraphs already discussed and voted for, but our dear pope did otherwise, the big question is WHY?. This is probably because he leaned toward the progressive group and somehow is hoping further discussion on it will get the progressive group their wish.

hurricaneChris:
I reserve my comments on that fellow.

SalC how are u?
I never failed to pray for u silently.
Tight schedule won't allow me type here.

Lol that fellow to me is an interesting character.

Am really fine dear, thanks for the prayers, its almost obvious you are busy, we hardly see you around, but be of good cheer for the Lord is your muscle

Syncan:
Sedes Vacantist! They are a confused bunch, flip flopping their way through, yet pride will not allow them retrace their steps. They get their beliefs from a site called Most holy family Monastery, which some of them think is an actual monastery. The owners use half truths, unverified claims, fear, sensationalism and all sorts of cut and join to hypnotize their followers. Little by Little you see conspiracy in everything including what your own family members do or say, but they start with the church hierarchy. Pay no heed to them bro, that's nothing compared to what the church has stood against in history. Salc has said much in advise.

Well interesting thing here is, whereas this guys ideology look like or sounds like that of Sedevacantist, he openly denounces sedevantism, infact I have debated alongside him against a sedevacantist few months ago, except he became one recently and that's one thing I don't really understand about him

vest:
Ok Thanks So Whc One Are U?ok I Wil

I am non, at least I consider myself non of the two. I am simply Catholic, am sure one can be Catholic without being conservative or liberal, there must be a position in-between this too, that's where I prefer to be

At that time I will gather you; at that time I will bring you home. I will give you honor and praise   among all the peoples of the earth when I restore your fortunes before your very eyes,”says the Lord. Zephh 3:20

Today we are praying for KingMEXX

May our prayers for you today find favour in the sight of God through Christ our Lord.

Good morning brethren and do have. A blessed day ahead

@Vest maybe you should join this group on FB if you have not

Catholic Church or Bible alone- debate

I find the group more balanced, accommodating and there are lots of knowledgeable people to learn from.

vest:
2ndly What Is The Diff B/w Libral And Conservative Catholic?

From my understanding, a liberal Catholic is one who is more open to change and better accommodates ideas even a bit outside the age long teaching and doctrine of the church while a conservative Catholic is rather rigid and prefers to uphold the age long traditions of the church unaltered.

Thanks to all of you who prayed and wish me well this day, may the almighty God bless, reward you all and fill your lives with reasons to testify in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit Amen.

vest:
There Is This Grup I Jn On Facebk Catholic Quesion Nd Answers The Admin There Is An Anti-pope Francis Nd Anti-vatican2 Nd Post Many Tins Against Him Plz Is Dir Any Way Such Grup Can B Block

Lol you mean ShedrackMary Benclamsi Ayamere?...yeah he is anti-Vatican II and view all post Vatican II popes with suspicion not just pope Francis, he said he is a "traditional Catholic" and he's admin of the groups Nigerian Catholics and Catholic Church True Church also. Am not sure it is easy or even possible for you to block such group, I mainly visit that site to read the inspiring posts and stories of people like Bro Dom, so the group isn't entirely bad and believe me that guy belong to some many Catholic groups on FB even if he is not their admin, so you will most likely see him on any Catholic group there. Just don't get mad at him.

Kamsified:
But U have her permission already, so biko do the needful on her behalf. Thanks in advance.
*ears itching*

I love you Sis, I really do, you will live long!

Kamsified:
Am just a passerby saying hi

Nne pass o, am here saying hi too

If your threads here are anything to go by, its obvious you are pro-Israel to a fault, you only create threads to make Israel look more innocent than they truly are, probably because you consider them right in anything because they are the chosen nation or whatever that means.

It is better you leave bias a give a balanced information, In as much as I condemn he killing of this innocent child, it is also good to condemn the actions of Israel in palestine both in Gaza and West Bank. In the aftermath of Israel's onslaught in Gaza Israel has neither uphold the terms of the ceasefire in the besieged Gaza Strip nor has it given the West bank a moment of rest.

The post war land grab, the oppression of palestinians, the prevention of Palestinian muslims below the age of 50 from entering the al aqsa mosque, infact I was ashamed to see the IDF arrest a crippled palestinian boy three days ago, what about the shooting of the 13 years old Palestinian boy about a week ago? Should I talk about the detaining of a 5 years old palestinian boy? demolition of palestinian homes which is still taking place even earlier today? Why haven't they lifted the blockade in Gaza as agreed in Cairo?

I can go on and on, the recent clashes are largely caused by Israel, they should stop playing the victim card please, am not saying Palestine is entirely innocent though but Israel is even more guilty and it makes me feel bad to see Christian zionists blindly supporting them even when it is clear they are in the wrong.

Davik01:
what will u do if pope decides to welcome gay marriage?

Just pray and watch