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ValeeLove:
dude, it's simple, since Cagematch isn't legit don't reference them anymore.

Don't worry, I'll watch it and I'll have my objective view.

If you were able to comprehend what I wrote without being babyfed, you'd know I won't.

You'd watch things without jumping to conclusions straight away? Shocking.

ValeeLove:
pick a side! Are you referencing it in the future or not?

Good thing is I always have receipts.
Bad thing for those who admit they don't watch, lack comprehension but are ever in the mood to argue.
I already explained myself about the Willow vs Kamille match. Folks on reddit were dunking on that match. Cagematch only validated opinions I saw on Reddit. A sub which is kinder to AEW.

You can say reddit and twitter have biased takes. Aggregate the sources and come up with your opinions.
I've already presented two reports earlier that proved cagematch can be flawed. It's not absolute objectivity as you propose.

By the way. Another stinker match dropped on Dynamite this week. I didn't need cagematch or reddit to know bcoz I watched the show unlike you .

ValeeLove:
I haven't even had an opinion. My first claim was even if it was good, it was probably just heavily choreographed and she had a pro to follow hence she may not be able to replicate it. Then I checked Cagematch (a reverred platform) and saw a 6. You guys say it's propaganda but still can't bring a non-propaganda platform to juxtapose; gaslighting much? And to end the argument, it doesn't matter if I watched the match and gave my true to God honest opinion because at the end of the day no one takes me serious right?
It's also funny how you guys reference Cagematch when it suits your agenda but call it political when it doesn't. Hypocrite much?

If you're referencing the 3 star match Willow and Kamille had on cagematch. Folks were already shi*ting on that match on reddit. On a sub that leaned much towards AEW.
I called out cagematch last year on this thread when the TNA controversy came out.
I no know which hypocrisy you dey refer

Is Moxley heel or face? He gave Ospreay a piledriver on the last PLE (or PPV😁)
but prevented Davis from doing same . This deathriders nonsense needs to end.

MARK DAVIS WAS GONNA FINISH OFF OSPREAY BUT THE DEATH RIDERS STOPPED HIM!

MOX ACTUALLY SAVED OSPREAY! #AEWDynamite pic.twitter.com/2S5KI3gFxD

— WrestlePurists (@WrestlePurists) April 23, 2026

ValeeLove:
93 people cannot be biased now, haba. Oya bring the unbiased now let's examine it. You guys cannot continue to mention problems without at least preferring solutions.

What is this one saying or do you like arguing for argument sake? Folks were down voting and trolling TNA show last year to a hyperbolic degree. It got so bad the mods there had to put measures in place.

There was another incident there with folks trolling over summerslam last year.
https://www.cagematch.net/?id=555&nr=2772

That means it's not "100% unbiased" without flaws as a group of bad actors can band together to influence decisions.
Imagine folks rating Evil NJPW matches 6.66 just for the lols.

You can view historical data of who wrestled who and when but don't take it as the 100% perfect accurate review. It's same for movie review sites too.

I use reddit and twitter to gauge reactions more than cagematch.

ValeeLove:
well I independently think Cagematch is legit. You can independently think otherwise but I'll independently disagree.

Let's not act like cagematch is 100% legit without troll or bias. Remember the TNA fiasco last year?

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/1m64dux/cagematchnet_releases_a_statement_regarding_the

Highlights from Darby Allin defending his AEW World Title against Tommaso Ciampa.
https://x.com/Graannt/status/2047134446776647852?s=20

Roman is a Sundaywrestlemania nigg*

Cam’ron responds to Roman Reigns calling him a washed up rapper, challenges The Usos at SummerSlam

(IG) pic.twitter.com/K5ZInkmnE2

— WrestlePurists (@WrestlePurists) April 22, 2026

abduleez1:
Lmao.... Bohemian Jacksody keh?? 😂😂😂

But IGN really ain't a trusted source for getting anything authentic from reviews pertaining to movies.

People wey never fit do justice to their main niche which is gaming.

😫

ValeeLove:
What's the need for seperate rosters if they can just show up anyone anytime and give title shots?

They haven't strictly enforced brandsplit rules in terms of superstars hopping across shows for awhile now. However, crossbranded title challenges are a rarity unless Jacob Fatu has joined Raw.

ValeeLove:
Why? Toilet paper is cheaper.

Who tf would wear this?

ValeeLove:
WWE did Psycho Sid dirty.

Time must be made for the real catalyst of the women's revolution, Stephanie Mcmahon. They also had to tribute the best NWO member, Rodzilla.

ValeeLove:
are we talking about Dynamite that happened last week or Mania that just happened yesterday? What kind of deflection is this?
I criticise AEW matches and wrestlers regularly, sometimes you don't even agree with me on them.

You're saying it was best match, as if it's something to be proud of that the best women's match of the biggest event of the year is a 6.🤦🏿‍♂️

I haven't moved any goal post, I stand with everything I said.

And no matter how much you try, Paige is still a better wrestler than Cargill. And until I see substantial evidence otherwise, I'm not changing my opinion.

We've bickered about MJF, that's true. Ah...Partial amnesia is contagious after all.

My bad candidate still perform better than your good candidate and 3/4 of the four horsemen.
Funny how non of em get the 6 rating. Maybe they weren't up to par that day.
Folks on twitter and reddit said it was a good match. Jade even hit the one wing angel😌.

ValeeLove:
abegi, deflector. Are we talking about AEW or Jade Cargill? See what you're saying. Na only 6 the match be wey you no gree make we hear word since.

I was pointing out your hypocrisy. Kamille had a stinker on Dynamite but not a peep from you because you're a good little AEW soldier.

Meanwhile, Jade had a better match on a show with 3/4 of the four horsewomen.
You first say na choreography, na now 6.
Why the other women no get am?
Calmly lie down, take the big fat L on this one

ValeeLove:
The match you're making noise about is just 6 on Cage Match. Na wa o.

The worst no talent female wrestler had the best women's match this mania. Meanwhile where the best wrestle drop stinker last Dynamite.
Take the L in peace and move on Bruv.

ValeeLove:
bro, ask yourself; how many hours of choreography will it have taken for Jade to pull that match off? It's her biggest match of the year, and she has a pro to follow; she'll most likely have heavily choreographed it to look good. Now let her wrestle without choreography (hmm).

Since you say she's now good, we're waiting for Friday night Smackdown and Backlash. If she no perform you go hear am.

So Paige been no get 3 pros to follow?
The goal post dn move now to choreography. I kneel down for your escape maneuver ability

While a certain someone was busy blaming Jade. A stinker dropped last Dynamite

ValeeLove:
I've talked about this. You're taking me back.
Paige is better than her. And I'm sure Zack is aswell.

So why the AEW fans no rave about talented Zack as you proffer? They said he only stood by his sister like a mute.

pu7pl3:
This your Jade Cargill slander is getting old bruh
Wrap it up.

I woke up this morning expecting to see botch clip after botch clip by Valee on her match yesterday. Instead 🤐

ValeeLove:
so basically you're saying the company doesn't know how to book, which is what I've been saying. Jade took opportunities from more deserving wrestlers because the company was foolish enough to give her those opportunities. I don't know why we're still talking about this. You don't like Paige, great, she's still better than Jade Cargill.

I don't see why Michin deserves to get over.
Holding a kendo stick isn't a character. She's a good hand at the end of the day but would I buy tickets to see her? Nope.
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/michin-i-have-problem-connecting-crowd-i-m-still-trying-figure-out-what-my-character/

Why didn't Paige have a better match at mania despite being in ring with Charlotte, Bayley and Lyra? . Afterall, It's easier to hide the flaws in a tag than singles one on one match

Jordynne Grace and Guilia's best match so far in WWE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9kiPNPGXlM

ValeeLove:
guy, again it doesn't matter if you have the deepest knowledge of the roster, what I said is logic based, it doesn't matter if you have a PHD in sport analysis. You have airtime, you take airtime from others. You have an opportunity, you take opportunities from others. You have a job, you take jobs from others. It's how the world works.

You say Michin was positioned as a jobber. Why won't she. Not everyone can be a main eventer, especially when certain undeserving wrestlers are taking that main event spot. I recall Vince picking Lashley over Punk as the face of ECW which led to Paul E leaving the company in anger. Vince did everything to push Lashley, even feuding with him till Mania and getting Austin and Donald Trump in the mix, didn't work. When you take spots you don't deserve, people who do won't get it. The person may not necessarily be Michin, but I'm sure Tiffany and Jordyn can have a say.

Yes, upsets happen regularly in wrestling. But you see they usually are done for shock value and to push a wrestler fast. The other wrestler is sometimes protected by still going on to win big matches and feuds. What other big matches and feuds has the likes of Michin, Tiff, Jordyn and Chelsea won? That's because they didn't do if for shock value or in an attempt to maintain the other's prestige regardless; they did it because they didn't care about their wrestlers and were foolish enough to consciously push a less deserving over a more deserving.

I don't have a PhD. I'm not that smart, that's why I play the fool here with memes and lame jokes🤡.

So when Michin was losing to wrestlers all these years they didn't take airtime of others? Na only when Jade come along the airtime loss.
Michin can't talk, fails to connect with the crowd and has no character besides wielding a kendo stick.
She even admitted in a tweet that she struggles to connect with audience.
Whatever position she found herself wasn't due to Jade.

Tiffany had a near year run with the top title before losing it to Jade. After the loss, she took a break then came back when the plan was already on Jade and Rhea.

Jordynne struggled badly on NXT. When dey brought up her to main roster they had her lose to Jade. You don't introduce a new wrestler you have plans for by having her immediately lose matches.
I just saw her lose to Tiffany upon her return from injury.
I don't see them doing same to Trick, je'von and Oba.

Not related.
I did a research on how on AEW Reddit their reacted to the "talented" brother of paige when his contract expired
https://www.reddit.com/r/AEWOfficial/comments/1j3jdc5/zak_knight_no_longer_with_aew
/

ValeeLove:
oshey o ESPN. Cover this; if you give Jade Cargill (the worst or second worst wrestler in the company) airtime and opportunity, you automatically take airtime and opportunity from more deserving wrestlers. It's why throughout history the business has been notorious for wrestlers fighting for spots and TV time. You don't need to be an expert to know this, this is simple logic.

And yes, when you beat wrestlers that are better than you, it's a burial for them. Or do you want to publicly say that Jade is better than Michin?🎤

I guess I was using ai when I compare the depth of talent between the women's divisions last year. Dumbos will say it's ai when they can't keep up. In your case na either failing memory, wilful ignorance or both as you say you don't even watch the show.

Michin was being positioned as a jobber before Jade was even in the mainevent.
It's not even a bragging right to say you've beaten Michin.

Is Michin the better ring wrestler? Yes.
What about her match history and how she's being presented?
Absolute jobber at the bottom of the totem pole.

As regards the warped logic you posted that the lesser wrestler going over is a burial.
I guess all these guys never recovered from being beaten by lesser wrestlers.
Action Andretti won Jericho.
Billy Gunn holds victory over Jay white.
Daniel Garcia won Daniel Bryan.
Toru Yano beat Jon Moxley.

ValeeLove:
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You've got to be kidding me right now. Na AI deh write these arguments for you? Wetin you dey yarn like this?

Again, there's nothing wrong with it. Paige wrestled in WWE for long. The fans know her. You saw the story, she was a sudden replacement to Nikki. Case closed (but I'm sure you'll open it again).

All these things you're doing is nothing. Once you're wrestling, you're taking airtime from others; that's how the business works. It's AUTOMATIC. Ontop of that, she's buried wrestlers.

I no need ai to let me know where who and who spot dey at anytime on any show both in WWE and AEW. I dn present breakdown from memory of where their spots on the card but you no get reply.
You know why? I follow and cover the shows from week to week. I don't give armchair opinions after consuming Okpa early morning like you.
She buried Michin and Bfab who never beat anyone.
I ask again. Whose time did Jade take?

ValeeLove:
do I know why they decided to have a short match with Steph? While Becky is a good worker, AJ is past her prime. And the other one had Nia in them and regardless of how good the rest are, they're not Rhea Ripley. And maybe because it's Marquee that one decided to put some effort this time, but we all know what will happen going forward.

The fact that we're even talking about the ring decency of a world champion is embarrassing.

So the other women's title matches were not marquee? So Nia tanked the women's match but Jade who also has no talent didn't tank her own match? 🤡.

CoolUsername:
For someone who doesn't watch WWE, you sure are invested.

He's like Cornette with AEW. 🤣

ValeeLove:
Baba, there's nothing wrong with a wrestler winning a title in a first match, especially if its an open challenge belt. This was how Eddie Kingston came in aswell, challenged on the first night.

No matter what you say, hiring her brother can never be as bad as hiring Jade. Her brother has been a wrestler all his life. Whether you like it or not, he's talent. Besides he's not there anymore. So what's your gripe.

To take time bla bla bla. As if Jade does not take time from talents. Repeating the same weird takes.

Was Eddie an Ex - WWE wrestler who AEW put the belt on in his first match? Answer na.
You rush carry meme come forget say ur company do same.

Paige's brother is talent. Why the talent no work for the wrestling focused company?
It was pure nepotism hire to please her.
Try dey talk true,you no go turn salt.
She did nothing notable there and made Tony pay out extra for her brother who also did nothing.

Jade took time from talent🤣. I already knew you would go there as you're motivated by bias rather than facts and logic.

Which talent did she take time from in that Smackdown divison?

She was feuding with Nia and Tiffany who were at the top there.
Fans were sick of Charlotte in mainevent, so na tagscene she go. She was in the tag scene with Alexa, before Jade was trusted in the mainevent scene.
Chelsea Green na midcard scene she dey. Her sidekick, Alba fyre beats nobody.
Michin and Bfab na jobbers before Jade came to smackdown.
Zelina and Guilia are on the midcard scene,

They had to bring Rhea across from Raw to feud with her because there's no top babyface available.
Who did she take time from?

ValeeLove:
remove Rhea and put Nia, let's see how far.

The other women wey work with Becky, Charlotte, Vaquer, Lyra, Bayley that weekend why were their matches not as good?
Maybe Rhea should have wrestled all the matches then🤡

Funny how the best women's match at mania this year was the one with Jade

COOL10:
I like Gunther but I'm not in support of the "Career Killer" gimmick. He doesn't need it at all. Perhaps Brock feels this way too.

Exactly. Gunther has gotten the rub working with many legends at this point. Let another person benefit this time.