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ValeeLove:
getting squashed by Oba?

CoolUsername no send Johnny Wrestling just as you no send Jade.

pu7pl3:
And it was worth it. He is a chief propagator of the kind of wrasslin you love

He and Cole were catching flack over the endless kickouts and nearfalls in their matches on NXT. The kind of stuff that AEW fans and Meltzer love.

ValeeLove:
I thought we've gone through this phase and are over it. Bret, Michaels, Guerrero, Rey, Punk, Bryan, Styles - all small guys that succeeded in WWE. Maybe we should stop giving them too much excuses.

I've given you the history of folks top of smackdown midcard scene from 2023 till now. Non of them were just good wrestlers without character or promo work.

There's also the fact in we're in the era of lengthy championship reigns.
Attitude and ruthless aggression was revolving door of champions. Sometimes, a reign might last only a week.
Santino was a two time IC champ in that era.

Bret and HBK broke the mould being good smaller wrestlers when Vince temporary shifted from his bodybuilder fixation during the steroid trial allegations. Hulkster and Macho had left for WCW.
Who were their contemporaries? Taker hadn't polished his ring work then. Yokozuna, Sid, Lex Luger, Diesel, Razor were serviceable but had looks carrying them. Stone Cold relied more on promo and character work especially after his neck accident.
HBK was the fanciful showman while Bret let his ring work speak for him. They were two good small guys in an era of giants.
Nowadays, we have many skillful small guys competing against one another.

Guerrero also had the Latino lie, steal and cheat thing going for him. Something Dominik inherited to get over with the crowd.

Punk was the indy guy archetype who made way for other similar guys in the modern era. No one was wrestling a similar style(maybe Jeff), doing suicide dives in WWE at that time.
Heyman also batted for him in the office.
Despite having been multiple champion on Smackdown. He had to suffer through the straight edge society /New Nexus storyline before really given the ball after the pipebomb promo (promo work was a factor).

Bryan never really broke ground until his YES/No catchphrases and story with Kane and AJ Lee took off.

Styles was a made guy coming from NJPW in 2016. Perfect timing as that was the year WWE became more indycentric in wrestling style. Folks like Owens, Balor, Rollings were already mixing it up on Raw.

Rey was allowed to shine because there was no similar guy on the roster allowed to do what he could do. Now you get Dragon Lee, Penta and other masked guys. Fenix is floundering hard because nothing sets him apart from other masked guys.

ValeeLove:
if e really good e go see chance. Either that or he's not being used well.

The Andrade wey una dey praise now for AEW which chance e been see for SmackDown?
If you're less than 6ft tall, depend on ring work rather than promo or character you're cooked in the fed.
All them Melo, ilja suppose dey thank Sami Zayn for using the US open title challenge as medium to get over with their wrestling skills.

The best tag teams on Smackdown took a backseat to MFT vs Ojuju boys for almost 6 months.

abduleez1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kajCUhg36R0?si=2N8ac_nh-8WY2CG8

These writers must always insert a new character not found in the original work.

[quote author=pu7pl3 post=138892923]Nah this took me out
https://x.com/TheRoyalSerf/status/2036911858062680365?s=20

ValeeLove:
competition is a thing, but look at the optics. He's been in the company for how long, and not even a midcard title in his name. Even Theory has that. With the way he was hyped.

He got a tag title reign with Ciampa. You know WWE values looks and promos over ring ability. It's why guys like Fraxiom, MCMG, Los Garzas are struggling.
Melo and guys like Ilja are just getting their break now because the smackdown midcard title scene cleared up a bit.

Logan Paul held the United States title for almost a year in 2023. It then went to LA Knight who had a boring reign and feud with Nakamura before being locked in the Samoan feud between Jacob and Solo.
Where Johnny wan see chance?

ValeeLove:
you're excusing a crime? I'm sure you thought it was really cool what Seth did to Heyman.

Heyman got what he deserved.

ValeeLove:
Do we blame WWE?

Maybe she bought tickets for the kids.

Ishilove:
Looks like something they bought from Nigerian online vendors

🤣🤣🤣

Soon...

Them never see anything yet. Greedy company

ValeeLove:
This is a demotion.

They don't have any plans for Johnny on the main roster. I don't see him beating Myles Bourne who's just starting his reign.

ValeeLove:
I saw a follow.

Yup it's me

ValeeLove:
Seth "Felon" Rollins.

Lmao

ValeeLove:
Some convos are silly. Now Matt doesn't deserve a Hall Of Fame?

The Dudleys are already in the HOF why aren't the Hardys? They're with TNA, a partner promotion, appeared on NXT and will be in the latest WWE game. It's puzzling

ValeeLove:
how did you find out. It's good you told me cos I've been thinking of changing my username, it's too similar.

Can't explain it here so others won't see but I left you a message there.

ValeeLove:
really? On FB? Don't bring any stuff here, this platform is faceless for a reason.

When I no be Ricochet.

CoolUsername:
Death Valee Driver, of course

I've seen Valee on Facebook.
I have the height and size advantage plus pu7pl3 in my backpocket.
It will be a Valentine's day massacre

Had to check if today is April 1st.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avky8dVaqAI

ValeeLove:
they should tighten these stuffs up even if they want to do their stories. You don't see Conor in ring attire for his UFC interviews and press. Oba is feeling too aesthetic is where I'm driving at. I liked him when he came to address Cody, looking well dressed, talking and acting normal - no gimmick in display. I guess he's on the main roster full time now.

Yea, that's why I said It was a Vince era thing. When Trips came in charge we actually began to see more wrestlers in casual clothes.

CoolUsername:
@samistry and ValeeLove

1 hour Ironman Hair vs Hair match. Pure wrasslin', real graps. I'll be the special guest referee. Fro5t as the play-by-play commentator, pu7pl3 in colour commentary.

Now when I've finally managed to grow more hair at this stage in my life😭

ValeeLove:
I'm glad Oba has ditched the fur. Does he wear wrestling gear to work everyday even when he's not wrestling? Lol.
Can't he interrupt someone without a full entrance?

PG era Vince dress code for wrestlers. They were always in gear at that period even not scheduled to wrestle.

GloriousGbola:
Obligatory not another teen movie rewatch for ugly girls with glasses and paint stained overalls

I understood the she's all that movie reference

ValeeLove:
Who is he anyone?

Very Nice, Very Evilhausen

What's the deal with Gunther? Is he sitting out this mania?

ValeeLove:
It's temporary Lio Rush, don't rush.
Christian had a 'father' gimmick and people liked it, but now no one cares and he's kind of a joke (cos that's what gimmicks do to people at the end). I've seen this happen for 20 years.

After the jungleboy and Copeland feud. Christian is still on the tag scene with rivalry against FTR.
Looking at his career/age with Edge. It's only fitting they end it being tag champions in AEW.
Say what you want but Christian still has a better career than a Lance Storm.
Eddie had a higher ceiling than Benoit who was all serious.

Now Is this Lio Rush gimmick going to help him win any titles? Nope. Matter of fact, he even lost the match he debuted this gimmick on AEW.

It isn't going to sell merch and arenas like El grande is doing in Mexico right now.
So what is the aim of this gimmick at the end of the day? No career advancement and no money made.

ValeeLove:
I said what I said, I'm not saying you did, but incase that's what you were gunning for (the joke).
I don't do garbage matches. No DQ is garbage by the way.

Why are you running ? Okay, I'm sorry for the lewd joke.

ValeeLove:
guy, come on, some respect. But if not, whatever.

Who says I don't respect u? If u want me to take back that joke, you must defeat me in a texas death match!!!!!

Adasun:
Please what do you do for a living?

They still dey ask this question for Nigeria?
We survive for a living