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My final thoughts on Jade Cargill. She's been wrestling for four years but tends to forget her spots in matches and make mistakes.
Some wrestlers pick up quickly while others struggle to adapt. I'd give her one more year before writing her off. 5 years should be enough time to learn and perfect a skill.
I don't see her winning the world title any time soon despite her push.

ValeeLove:
Ehen, WWE fans have a problem with HIAC PLE because they believe it should be a grudge match stipulation and not a show; well what about War Games? Same issue here but not a single protest from anyone.

Wargames matches have always been a yearly event used to settle grudges between faces and heels since it's inception in the 1980s WCW.
Looking at Wikipedia they only skipped it in 1990 and 1999.
I'll give you credit though as the women matches last year didn't have a storyline leading to it. They did it because the men were having it.

ValeeLove:
you act like I watch WWE. I only have something to say on this matter because she once worked for AEW and by and far she still hasn't improved. You're talking Cagematch. The Cagematch ratings of her I saw were terrible. If you want me to post the evidence, I will.

You criticise what you don't watch?
I already post her cagematch rating screenshot eariier when I compared her to Marina who's been wrestling since 2018.
Jade has been wrestling for 4 years now which isn't a long time in wrestling years.

Not bad for a guy who sprouts emojis to backup his argument .
V must Vendet him Vandetta

Nia jax wins Queen of ring= Valeelove sleeps
Jade wins Queen of ring = Valeelove rages.
V for Vandetta.

ValeeLove:
again, yes, she buried the TBS division. Luckily they were mostly jobbers she beat. Brit is a decent wrestler (not a good one) but her character work is one of the best in the company regardless of division so that gives her an edge in status. We can't say the same about Jade's character work.
The Saudi fans have everything to do with this discussion. They are added points for me in this debate. She went to perform for them and they rejected her. The wrestling world panned the decision to make her Queen. And here you are, supporting the decision with no points to back you up, just emojis.

Britt a decent worker? Study cagematch and get back to me. Saudi fans booing has nothing to do with it. Fans boo faces, cheer heels in this modern day.
Na you carry mouth say Jade is the best by having the crown. She's also the best by having the TBS belt. Who she bury holds no water. She won that belt simple. Are you disproving your own theory?
The wrestling world my ass. Didn't Nia Jax beat Lyra last year to win it? Is Nia Jax a better worker than most women?
When E reach jade turn Na acrimony we go hear

ValeeLove:
I'm answering all your questions, answer mine. I'm not deflecting anything. You're the one deflecting. I ask about Jade, you're telling me about Brit Baker and AEW crowd.

You brought up her being the best by having the crown. You posited that theory. Theories are proven fact simple and short. She won the TBS belt which means she's the best. Britt won the AEW belt.
Na your logic we dey deduce here. Except say Na logical fallacy you dey posit.
Na you bring things out of context like Saudi crowd and me having no right to critique wrestling matches henceforth in that argument.
The points I brought like Britt, Cagematch ratings are relevant to the fact in issue

ValeeLove:
Corensweat is the most shabbily dressed and Kenny is the biggest - how will you think he isn't the wrestler? Mehn. Are you guys not happy the AEW is featuring DC stars or what?

I said show any rando this pic. You mean Corensweat the 6ft guy with biceps out look like a wrestler.

ValeeLove:
yeah, I question their pay too, but at least they do PPV numbers. I never liked Kenny in the video games division, he isn't an expert as far as I'm concerned and he gave them unnecessary stress. I believe he ruined it. It was bad investment due to carelessness and lack of proper preparation. Their biggest star was also a hot head, but yes they did it. I just want every party to take their blame.
Show on Fox, I don't know, it was probably when I wasn't watching.

I and valee agree on a subject?!!

ValeeLove:
Ehen, WWE fans have a problem with HIAC PLE because they believe it should be a grudge match stipulation and not a show; well what about War Games? Same issue here but not a single protest from anyone.

Deflect and run. Vintage Valee! as Micheal Cole is likely to say

ValeeLove:
he looks like a fan, like how you'd dress for a costume party or a comic con. I can't believe we're even having this conversation, so unnecessary.

show your people at home this pic. They're likely to point out Corensweat and Hoult as the wrestlers.

CoolUsername:
Look at how shabbily Kenny Omega is dressed. He looks like your average reddit neck beard touching grass for the first time in 6 months

but but muh workerate and real graps

Megan Bayne was propped up to be an instant threat to Toni Storm. She lost the match and is now stuck in tag limbo with Penelope Ford.
Where has Karmille been since her rift with Mercedes? Witness protection.
Our resident AEW sicko here would rather keep praying Jade slips on a banana peel than callout his favourite company for wasting these talents.

ValeeLove:
they'll be fine, as long as the money is coming and they make the right decisions. As for the E, making Jade Queen is a hell of a bad decision and there's so much marketing and business decisions can do when your product is bad.

They'll always be fine because Tony has a lot of money to burn. It's a hobby for him rather than a company which is suppose to turn profit.
They ran out their biggest star with a section of their audience.
Why should I pay you AEW wrestlers the WWE main roster money when na NXT developmental viewership I dey get each week? Five star bangers isn't putting butts in seats.
Every company is created for profit. WWE has bad decisions but them games, merchandise and live crowds are a draw.
What happened to AEW video game which Kenny was part of it's creative input? It died soon after release and went straight to bargain bin discount.
What happened to the AEW show on Fox that Swerve bragged about? Nowhere to be found.
Tony Khan runs a charity wrestling organisation.

abduleez1:
Well, we can say this franchise has a history of still making good money despite poor critic reviews...👀


Still, I don't see this one making $1bn. And I stand by it. Somehow sef my confidence in it has faltered more and I see this in the $750mn+ realm and all the more farther from anything close to a Billie. At most, I smell $850mn+ (which I doubt).

One billion Dino dollars coming soon🦕

Marina Shaffir who has been wrestling since 2018,has a worst cagematch rating than Jade Cargill who started in 2021 but as long as Marina is in AEW. Forgiven!!!

Before Valeelie go come lie say only manager she dey do, Marina wrestles regularly. Big Swole also has a worst rating than Jade.

ValeeLove:
she is the worst TBS champ ever. I groaned anytime she defended that title. I was so happy when she left AEW. Brit isn't the best wrestler in the world, but at least she's decent, same cannot be said about Cargill. Go ahead, keep supporting, apparently the wrestling world and Saudi fans disagree with you. Also remember the internet never forgets. You'll still come here to critique wrestling matches and I'll be here to paste your comments right after.

You said the implication of Jade having the crown means she's the best but when it came to her TBS title reign and Britt as women's champ, you don't accept your own theory because don't like how they wrestle?
See self contradiction abeg.
You disagree with your own theory because of your feelings despite she holding a title in dub
You then tried to wiggle out and deflect it over to me as usual.
What has my supporting and Saudi fans got to do with what you said? You said having the crown means you're best in that division. Having the TBS belt and Britt as women champ also means they're the best in that division too.
I will continue to critique wrestling matches here and nothing you go do😜

ValeeLove:
they're nerds now. But when the WWE 'superstars' dress like superheroes for their entrances, they aren't nerds.

Did he lie? Show any random person on the street this picture and he'd think actors are the wrestlers while Kenny and MJF are the nerdy fans. Looks matter.
Swerve and Adam Cole cosplay too. They all cosplay across both companies.

[quote author=ValeeLove post=135937326][/quote]ironic using an image of the guy you folks termed a hypocrite to make your point on the truth.
🎶LOOK IN MY EYES
WHAT DO YOU SEE
A MILLION DOLLARS IN SAUDI
Like MUSSOLINI and KHASHOGGI🎶

ValeeLove:
yawn all you want but it's the truth. Now you and others can't come here to critique pro-wrestling because you refuse to tell the truth over a decision that is universally panned simply because she looks good. In what conscience would you want to do that?

Meaning she was also the best as TBS champion, same for Britt Baker too as women champ.
My conscience clear like AEW crowd at their arena

ValeeLove:
You don't even know the implication of having Jade win that crown. It simply means she's better than everyone that was in that tournament, Jade Cargill?!! Way to bury half of your roster.

🥱🥱🥱

ValeeLove:
start praying that they get a decent booker.

Why should I pray when I'm not a TKO shareholder? The 2018/19 bad raw and covid thunderdome era I no pray.
Meanwhile AEW is still practising social distancing all these years after covid

I remember when Bret Hart was bitter at WWE after the Montreal screwjob and Owen Hart dying. He later came back to work with Vince. Nobody call am hypocrite for taking the fed money.

This has to be a joke right? One is likely to get all three Tonga names mixed up.

ValeeLove:
Ladies and gents, your Queen. We went from Austin to this too.

I could say maybe it's the body suit sliding off due to heat but it's jade Cargill so patterns converge. looking forward to next botchamania

ValeeLove:
What a joke. WWE sucks, am I lying?!

I knew this would piss you off so I prayed for this and it happened

ValeeLove:
You're Samoan, you debut straight to the main roster. Don't blame the player, blame your bloodline.

where is the lie?

ValeeLove:
Trivia Time:

Can Karrion Kross take a back bump?

I don't even know where this dumb rumor started from.

Kaycee7:
Raquel winning this match would've done more for her than Rhea

Lmao. I don't even think they considered a singles match for Raquel if not for Liv getting injured. She's just fodder now.

That's my glorious king Corbin . I'm surprised non of the other top companies picked up DIjak.

ValeeLove:
I mustn't mention everyone. That's not my goal, just giving examples. The point remains, everyone is succeeding outside wrestling regardless of company. It's weird to use that as a shade to Kenny. Did Kenny tell anyone he wanted to venture into Hollywood?

After E dn wear dress for them