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Yorexit:
Did Ifa choose the Emir of Iwo?

Tinubu put these fake Obas there. Ifa didn’t choose them.

Nah Tinubu Choose Alake also?
Nah him choose Olofa?
Nah him choose Osemawe?
Nah him choose Orangun of Ila?
Nah him choose Olubadan?

Leave politics to politicians

Omoluabi rere.

BSdetector:
Just like Nigeria is evolving.

Nigeria isn't.
Why did you think the South West have to create their own Development Agenda of Western Region

No region have this except.us.

Yorexit:
Not saying they should go to war but they didn’t earn the crowns on their heads. If they had to earn the crowns, they won’t be bowing down to politicians the way they do.

They have to do that.
Because their powers have been reduce


And BTW Ifa no dey choose king again.
IFA has recognized money

MrMaestro:
uh no. I don't know what you're watching but it's no less than 70%.

Huh

Highest currently is at 20% (I still dash it bro)

If the rate is at 50% it would be the talk of each towns or 1/3 of every discussions.

Biafra is at it 70%

WisdomFlakes:
Waa gbayi. Me sef I want Oduduwa Republic. But it must be by consensus and buy-in of the overwhelming majority. Those that don't yet agree with it should not be called names like 'slaves' or other epithets, but rather reasoned with, because if dem plenty enough, they can end up becoming spoilers and scatter the whole objective. Believe it or not. I can't claim to be more yoruba than them just because they don't yet see things from my vantage point. I also think the agitation needs more intellectuals that can sell and make it more attractive to more Yorubas.

Yorubas are very educated, intelligent, and dynamic people. You can't just expect to appeal to them via emotions alone. Some may fall for that, but many, if not most, are very rational, and would therefore ask thought-provoking and valid questions, because the project is meant to be about our collective future and therefore can't and should not be left in the hands of an incompetent lot.

It should not just be about being free from Fulani herdsmen and their atrocities. We need to start hearing more about how the new country would be structured, have debates about economic models, etc. We can't just say we will leave all that planning till when we get independence. The planning has to start NOW because those that fail to plan, plan to fail. South Sudan is a typical example. They spent so much time fighting for independence, only to turn against themselves after getting it because they just weren't prepared for the task and challenges of nation building. The best and brightest of the Yoruba race need to be persuaded and coopted into the project/agitation, so that we don't export Nigeria's problems into the new country.

If anyone doesn't understand what you've written don't waste your time again.

You are on point!

BSdetector:
That's why he's an oba....he should know. Back in the day if an oba couldn't protect his kingdom he was given the calabash with eggs and forced to commit suicide....the current breed of obas are fat, weak and old ceremonial local chiefs doing basically jack shit receiving federal allocation....

Oh well you're correct.

Its civilization.
Everything must revolve with time if we want to make our culture more meaningful.

gimakon2:
Make we hear word Jare .

Lol, you still have to make use of the language to complete your sentence and make it more meaningful

Yorexit:
That’s what you think. It’s going to shock you!

I don’t regard 19th century Yoruba Obas are true Obas. True Obas had real kingdoms and empires that lasted centuries and fought wars to protect them. These ones were only gifted crowns and it shows in how they act.

Lol, we're in civilization era why would you want them to go to war?

No just say this at their palace

Yorexit:
No, it’s not his personal opinion, it’s the right of the Yoruba women who traveled to Nigeria to meet as his subjects. The fact that he kept them waiting for 4 hours and refused to meet them is a crime on its own.

Alake has the right to speak for himself and his family. He has no right to speak for Egba and Yoruba people. If he wants to speak for the people, he has to consult them before opening his mouth. There’s a reason why kings used to be dethroned by the people in Yorubaland for not following due process.

Oh Yeah you're right there!

blamingthedevil:
God Bless Lagos State
God Bless Yorubaland

Aseeee!

redcurry:
you can say that all over again.Yoruba language is just too sweet.

For you.

BSdetector:
Obas who can't stop the nigerian army from using koboko to flog their baale, or stop herdsmen from chasing their subjects to Benin republic...

How can Oba knows what's going on in all villages, do you know how many Villages under one Oba?

Yorexit:
Most of the people you listed have been consulted and they’re fully in support of Yoruba nation. Or why do you think Ooni changed course and has publicly declared support for Yoruba nation?

The only people left are politicians under Tinubu and his fake Obas.

The agitation is currently at its 10%

Is Seyi Makinde under Tinubu BTW there is no fake Oba in Yoruba land, everyone has equal right and you can't impose your believe on another person

Yoruba - The language that gives life, the musical language.

Yorexit:
Your point is noted. But in a democratic setting, it’s always about what the majority want.

They’re doing the normal consultations but when a king refuses to meet them because he has taken money from a corrupt politician who’s greedy enough to think his ambition is greater than the welfare of the average Yoruba, what do you want them to do? They went there to meet him but he refused to meet them. Akarigbo is a coward.

No king in Yorubaland has the right to speak for the people without consulting the representatives of the people (chiefs) and that’s Alake’s crime for coming to support one Nigeria. Who gave him the power to speak for the people?

When the referendum is done, we shall know who the majority is. Yoruba nation is bigger than one man’s greedy political ambition. He has already turned Lagos to his private estate. What else does he want?

You should understand that he's refusal to meet them is his personal problem and opinion.

And by the wah, he is only speaking for himself not for the whole people.

Alake supporting One Nigeria isn't a sin because he has the right to support whatever he wants.
And don't also think the Governors are also in support of it.

By now, currently the agitation for a Yoruba nation is still at its 10%

WisdomFlakes:
You guys still don't get it. Any and every yoruba man is entitled not to even want to be part of Oduduwa Republic without getting threatened or intimidated by its proponents. That is the point some of you don't get. You are turning this into a 'us vs. them' thing, even amongst Yorubas, when in fact ALL yorubas are supposed to be treated as equal stakeholders in the agitation. And this will end up working against the whole agitation until you all accept that you don't have a monopoly of knowledge.

There are Yorubas in Benin Republic and Togo, and they are ok with where they are, even though some Yorubas here may feel they will be better off in one single country with other yorubas. But in the real world, we all can never think alike, that's the essence of freedom, democracy and independent thought.

The politicians you are vilifying for being bad, corrupt, and whatnot, they also once spoke like you are doing right now, condemning others before getting to the position themselves. And whether you believe it or not, in Oduduwa Republic there will still be corrupt politicians, there would also be opposition parties that will oppose the ruling party in power because it is human nature to disagree on positions and in principle, and no one deserves to be blackmailed for that.

Some clans may even later feel marginalized and decide they would be better off on their own, even after getting Oduduwa Republic. Yes, it can happen. Why? Again, because it is human nature. That desire for separation is what led to the creation of several states in every region in Nigeria today.

Or what if the Yorubas in Lagos decide to opt out of the Republic? Or if in a referendum some yoruba clans (or Muslims) decide not to be a part of the new country? Or you think that's farfetched? That can certainly happen if the hardline promoters continue acting like they alone know what's best for everyone else without taking other opinions into consideration.

Bottomline is, some of you guys should quit thinking your position is the only valid one. You can't force all Yorubas to think the same way through blackmail and threats, no matter how valid you may feel your position is. Kole ever work.

Exactly.
I am in support of Oduduwa, but Majority carry the vote.
Its not a must I impose my knowledge or agitation on everyone, No Yoruba man is an island of knowledge and One person cannot be the sole final decision maker for all Yoruba's.

Even in the Olden days.
There are checks and balances in the palace.
The King doesn't have the final authority on some matters except if it has been widely consulted and agreed upon by the Chiefs, Ogbonnis etc.

Even the Balogun cannot go to war without consultations and cannot go to war alone without approvals.

In All I'm in support for whatever is best for my People.
Everyone cannot think the same way, reason why we go for the one that will benefit us.

Thinking one way reasoning is bad for us.

That's rubbish nah

WisdomFlakes:
Exactly. Know that and know peace. Or else we will end up fighting another civil war amongst oirselves before any Oduduwa Republic will see the light of day.
The Kiriji civil war that was fought between yoruba clans lasted for 16-years for the same reason. You can't just come from nowhere with a 'hero complex' and expect 40-million+ people to submit their brains to you because you feel you are fighting for them, when they are not zombies. No single person can command such loyalty by fiat, besides, such blind loyalty ends up breeding dictatorships. You have to consult, dialogue, compromise, and persuade others to accept your position, not blackmail them with propaganda, lies, and threats, just because they see things differently from you.

100%√ on point.

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Kriss216:
A Yoruba promoter getting married to non Yoruba


What's he promoting? Just the language?

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Mufutau despite being married to a Caucasian and having lived in Finland for quite sometime he is still committed to not just speaking his Yoruba language, his kids also speaks the language and they both promote the language and culture on the Yoruba Pikin social media platforms. His sons are so unique and articulate in all their skits.

I understand bros that there is no water in your area at nsukka.
No offense actually I know you just finished eating and you didn't see water to drink.
But its actually Okay.

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MrSamsung:
Hand him over to the Federal Government because he thinks high of himself Is that a new criminal offense in the law Does it even sound meaningful to your earring?

Or you are beating about the bush so as not to say "hand him over because he is agitating for Oduduwa" which in itself would be a betrayal and not good to the course of self determination.

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Guy what trash are you saying?
If the Federal Government want to arrest him.
It will be done without anything happening


Are you Okay?
Or you think because he has not been arrested nah ordinary? And not politically motivated?

You think if those Eastern governors supported Kanu, he will be arrested in the first place? If not that he was able to give himself brain and Japa when DSS came to raid his house you think they wouldn't have arrested him?

Mtcheew.
Lo sun abeq.

TrueNigerian300:
Oga they will take him and nothing will happen the only people that can shield him are the people of Yoruba land if they are not stupid. Sanusi was disposed heaven didn't fall. You guys should stop worshipping all these idiots you called traditional rulers - they are all useless and hide under their useless agbada clothes that should be meant for 10 people.

I understand, everyone is a tiger online.

kevapet:
They just want to defend one nijeriya but they forgot they don't have to sound stupid. Yoruba has been even before the welsh and irish tribes agreed to be part of english and scottish union called u.k that he lied created language for our fore-fathers.

Lol no mind him.

How were the obas able to communicate with each other In the past.

He forgot that almost all the Obas are either a prince of Ife or Oyo

Juliusmalema:
He is a rascal and pls I am south African..

Asante san..

How did you understand Igbo then?
You're living in ibo land?

SLAP44:
Nigeria is very very dead.

The 100yr contract ended in 2014 tho.

Signed by lord lugard and 20 others.(6 Nigerians only)

MrSamsung:
Nawao. Your statement is self contradictory.

It should be::::::::::::Igboho should be careful on his course , because these are the people that can betray him to the Federal Government.

We're still saying the same thing.
They can shield him if the Federal government is after him
And they can hand him over if he thinks he's of himself high.

Juliusmalema:
Igboho is a rascal not fit to defend Yorubas.

He is a scam.

Anambra man, that you saw his name written as Igbo ho, doesn't mean you can put your mouth into the matter

WisdomFlakes:
Sunday Ighoho and his supporters are fond of resorting to blackmailing other Yoruba personalities that don't support their methods with the accusation of being sponsored by politicians. They must understand that they cannot browbeat or intimidate other Yorubas into supporting them by force and through blackmail.

That's why its impossible for one person to be leading or trying to lead the whole Yoruba or trying to command a large fellow of Yoruba's without consultations, agreement and the probs and cons.


But once everyone agrees and put all hands on deck.
Forget it, done deal

He says there was no tribe or languages and the whites brought us related languages together or so.

I wonder how an Egba, Ondo, etc were able to understand an Oyo man perfectly then before making Oyo the central dialect.

He forgot Egba, Ijebu, Etc were always busy with trades clothes, silks, wool, etc with ibadans, oyos
How then were they able to understand each other?

I actually saw his thread late and I was very busy to respond.
I hope he comes here to say his trash

R.I.P


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