achorladey:

That is the problem with your likes, after giving you enough proof that the JWs believed that Jesus is the son of God, you insist we deny Jesus. Na your worries be that. Heed the advice given to you. Start from page 1-8 of this thread. The clarification you seek is there. Finally, Does your Almighty God Jesus has a father?

Yes God Almighty has a father. Jesus is Almighty God because he and his Father has one nature but you jws deny this meaning Jesus is not the Son of God.
I and my father a are equal human being, Jesus and his Father are equal God.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

achorladey:

That is the problem with your likes, after giving you enough proof that the JWs believed that Jesus is the son of God, you insist we deny Jesus. Na your worries be that. Heed the advice given to you. Start from page 1-8 of this thread. The clarification you seek is there. Finally, Does your Almighty God Jesus has a father?

Yes God Almighty has a father. Jesus is Almighty God because he and his Father has one nature but you jws deny this meaning Jesus is not the Son of God.

Ferisidowu:
Although am disappointed at my Christian folks calling the JW's all sort of names ... It's not right ......

what do you call a manipulator who denies Christ identity? Jesus called the pharisee worst names.
Do you know the millions of people that are been lead astray by false teachers? LovingJehovah is a false teacher, he is not here to know but to teach errors inspire of glaring facts.
I tried to ask him question that will make him see his error (if he sincerely seeks the truth) but no, he knew it and dodge it.
Don't waste your time on him this page will continue endlessly without any tangable result mark my word.

achorladey:

Who is the antichrist here? 1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
That is all you need Mr SAVIOURJESUS. Once you raise Jesus to status Almighty God. You render your beloveth Jesus a liar. Your John 10:30 becomes...... I(Jesus the Almighty God) and my father(Father of the Almighty God) are one. Question for you SAVIOURJESUS do you serve an Almighty God that has a father? Looooool.
The thread is not meant for medal seeking Christians by mouth like you as signified by the post am responding to. I repeat ask Jesus what he meant when he said in John 17:3 that there is only one true God.
You didn't bother to look up on what others have had to say on this thread. All the scriptures you highlighted so far has been extensively covered on this same thread. Do well to read the thread from page 1-8 to seek the answers you crave for. Through inspiration John said we only need to see and confess Jesus as the Son of God for God to dwell with us and you want the JWs to raise the Jesus to status Almighty God. Think deeply about that. Don't create unnecessary discussions into what the demons themselves believe in an shudder that JESUS IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF JEHOVAH.

if you believe he his the son of God why do you still attack his divinity as God. If my father is a human then will I then be an animal? If Jesus father is God what does that make Jesus? Can u see you deny that Jesus is the son of God, but you are lead by the Spirit of error.
Truth may seem harsh but it is the truth you guys are liars and antichrist(against Christ).

achorladey:

Who is the antichrist here? 1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
That is all you need Mr SAVIOURJESUS. Once you raise Jesus to status Almighty God. You render your beloveth Jesus a liar. Your John 10:30 becomes...... I(Jesus the Almighty God) and my father(Father of the Almighty God) are one. Question for you SAVIOURJESUS do you serve an Almighty God that has a father? Looooool.
The thread is not meant for medal seeking Christians by mouth like you as signified by the post am responding to. I repeat ask Jesus what he meant when he said in John 17:3 that there is only one true God.
You didn't bother to look up on what others have had to say on this thread. All the scriptures you highlighted so far has been extensively covered on this same thread. Do well to read the thread from page 1-8 to seek the answers you crave for. Through inspiration John said we only need to see and confess Jesus as the Son of God for God to dwell with us and you want the JWs to raise the Jesus to status Almighty God. Think deeply about that. Don't create unnecessary discussions into what the demons themselves believe in an shudder that JESUS IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF JEHOVAH.

you people are liars!

lovingJehovah:
our conversation to a conclusion. It is baseless talking with someone who denigrates people and their beliefs. You just sounded irrational and immature so I am tapping out. This is a forum where you come to share your thought and make room for others to do the same without spitting hate slurs and being judgmental. You cannot reel me in that dirt.
Take the win and have a great day.

you didn't answer my question and here you are running around.
I know you are an Antichrist trying to lead people astray.
My questions are still pending

Why pay tithe?
Apart from earthly blessings that goes along with tithe, it is a proves that Christ is alive and even if pastors misuse it. They are not the ones that really receive it but your high priest Jesus on the other end of eternity and some day when you meet the Lord you will be surprised.
Hebrews 7:8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.

betterABIAstate:
oya show me where Jesus practised it and also the apostles. Quote the bible passage

burnt offerings, sin offering and peace offering were all symbolic referring to the sacrifice of Jesus. which he fulfilled by his death.
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Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other.

Do you see Jesus didn't even condemn tithe payment. Notice that Judgement, mercy and faith were placed on the same category as tithe but those were higher than tithe.

Payment of tithe is out of love for God and a way to honor God not because it is a law.
What matters is that Christians agree so God agrees.
Shallom

List of scriptures missing from new versions of the bible.
Matt 12:47
Matt 17:21
Matt 18:11
Matt 21:44
Matt 23:14
Mark 7:16
Mark 9:44
Mark 9:46
Mark 11:26
Mark 15:28
Mark 16:9-20
Luke 17:36
Luke 22:43

Luke 22:44

Luke 23:17

Luke 24:12

Luke 24:40

John 5:4
John 7:53 - 8:11
Acts 8:37
Acts 15:34
Acts 24:7

Acts 28:29

Rom. 16:24

2 Cor. 13:14

James 1:8

Check your so called easy to read newer versions if these verses are there. The devil is smart he has substituted accuracy for easy to read, inspiration for scholarship that is why we have a lot of theologians but no power, these newer bibles have watered down the gospel and played down sin trying to reduce the potency of the blood of Christ.
The Antichrist will soon arrive his minions are preparing the ground for him. Be wise Christians!
KJV remains the most trusted and accurate version,and inspired.

author=lovingJehovah post=62296943]Thank you for the honor to answer these questions from your perspicacious mind.
The Bible made it clear that anything can be a god. Whatever you give your mind and devotion to becomes your god Philippians 3:19.

out of point.
Is Jesus a true God or a false god.

Jesus was a far superior spirit creature before stooping to the low class by becoming a man. If Jesus wanted to be worshipped as a God, he would have had it all. But, no! Jesus said in Matthew 4:10 It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone' you must render sacred service']

@ bold were did you get that from.
Simple question and you are dribbling yourself. Is Jesus a false God yes or no

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i]you said Jesus is a God and not God.what is the difference?[/i]
I did not say but the Bible clearly says in 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 "there are 'gods'...yet 'to us' there is one God the Father..

." Why did you quote the bible half way here is the full verse
1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Are you a part of the 'us' mentioned above?

Those are Christians I am a Christian but you are not.

Jesus is called mighty God but there is one called "The" ALmighty God. There is always a God placed above Jesus. Colossians 1:15 says that Jesus was created by Jehovah. Jehovah was never created by anyone but he is the sovereign of the universe. 1 Corinthians 11:3 says that God is the head of Jesus. Jesus himself said that Jehovah is greater than him John 14:28

Here are verses that call Jehovah mighty God.
Deuteronomy 7:21 Thou shalt not be affrighted at them: for the LORD thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible.

Psalms 132:2 How he sware unto the LORD, and vowed unto the mighty God of Jacob;
Isaiah 10:21 The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God.
Habakkuk 1:12 Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One? we shall not die. O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and[b], O mighty God[/b], thou hast established them for correction.

In furtherance, Jesus himself called Jehovah the only true God in John 17:3. It is not my word. You may say Jesus said in the Bible...

And Jesus said I and my father are one.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Moreover, 1 Timothy 2:5 says For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus

To muffle the controversy and heresy that abound today, Jesus said the words in John 20:17 ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.
The above was Jesus speaking the words from his own mouth.

Will you accept his word above heretics and philosophers? Does he deserve the doubt and questioning for telling us who truly our God is?

It does not matter what you have been told for years, what matters is the truth. The truth can only be found in the Bible. Anyone giving you a straight answer without referencing you to the Bible might be leading you astray with empty words of mouth.

you are a liar and an Antichrist. I will never accept anything from Antichrist and heretics.
Jesus is Almighty God!

Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

in all you couldn't respond to issues raised. My questions were short and clear enough, you could have answer them straight but a heretic like you prefers to jump around. SHM

A child's heart becomes edgy as soon as he hears that there is another man who is his biological father even though he had been lied to all his life and he goes out in search of him to have a closure.

Do you feel edgy to know the true God, Jehovah?

Repent now before its too late

achorladey:

I am tempted to say this, how I wish you can forward this same question to Jesus who said this in John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
When Jesus made this statement, did he see himself as a liar or speaking the truth?
And...... Matthew 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Jesus must be in the best possible place to answer this question. What a question Looooool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

u quoted me without answering my questions.I should forward it to Jesus, is that the best you can do? If you can't answer the question why did you quote me? Of cause you can't answer the question because it exposes you. By God's grace I am ready for you jws

The best and most authentic version of the bible is KJV 1611. I have read many other translation but KJV is not just the best but it is the best.
That is why every cult tries to down grade or ridicule it. KJV remains the best and most popular among born again Christians.

betterABIAstate:
Jesus never practised tithing sir

who told you Jesus didn't practice tithing? Do you know that Jesus fulfilled the whole law? Jesus didn't break any law including the law of tithing.

betterABIAstate:
heaven hasn't approved it, heaven doesn't aprrovet what wasn't in the book

who told you tithe is not written in the bible.
Most Christian has already accepted tithing as a way of providing for the furtherance of the Gospel and heaven has approved it.


Matthew 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Matthew 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.


What you should be looking at is whether tithing is good for the work of God or not?
If it is good and you refuse to do it you have sinned

btoks:

Let me get this right , you mean Jesus allowed this church to exist for 1500 years bringing protestanism (which within a few years became different denominations with differing doctrines - now over 30,000 denominations ? )

Do you have the same beliefs as the Lutheran church(effectively the 1st protestant church? you practice their liturgy?
How about the Calvinists - you believe in their doctrine of double predestination?

go back and reread my post.
Protestanism was a major breakthrough from the tyranny of Rome.
.it is not a rule that all protestant must have one doctrine, it is better to be divided in truth than to be united in error.
As long as Satan is the ruler of the world there will always be errors and false religion. So the fact that roman catholism has been in existence 1500 years proves nothing. There was darkness on earth before God called forth light, Sin came before the saviour, Israel.was in bondage to Egypt 400 years
before Moses was sent.

SAVIOURJESUS:
@ op
you said Jesus is a God and not God.what is the difference?
how many Gods do we now have?
Is Jesus a true God or a false God?
give straight answers.

Loving God attend to this question.

Those who argue against tithe should know that heaven has already approved it in as much as the church has agreed to it then it is settled in heaven.
If you don't pay your tithe it shows you are rebelling against the authority of Christ.

Atheism is the worst mental illness.

Ubenedictus:


you believe the Church continued after the apostles died and this church isn't the Catholic Church. please give me a few names of those none Catholic Christians from the 2nd century to the 10th century

the church was infiltrated after the death of the apostles.
Roman Catholicism ( cult of Mary) was created to counterfeit Christianity but it failed and will always fail.
There had always been the true church but they are scattered and few. The rise of protestanism was the hand work of God so that gentiles can see the light of christ.
Mr man seek Jesus, start reading the bible and learn to pray to God through Jesus alone. You will know the truth.

@ op
you said Jesus is a God and not God.what is the difference?
how many Gods do we now have?
Is Jesus a true God or a false God?
give straight answers.

king james bible is the best translation