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Why cant the good Apostle just call on the God of Paul and Silas to rescue him from DSS' Den. Perhaps he realizes as do almost other Men of God that all the sweet stories of deliverance and miracles contained in the holy books are nothing more than collections of Iron age myths and fables and in the real world there isnt any one giving you miraculous protection.. Oga o

He is just destroying a book of myth and fables authored by some Tribal folks from the Iron age... similar to destroying Homer's illiad from Greek mythology. i doubt he would face any dilemma more than any of us Humans would..

Leader26:
You just insulted God and the angels of the church by leaving..

Read Romans 13: 1

Let every soul be subject to higher powers for there is no power that be but the one that God ordained..
'And whoever resist the power resists the ordinance of God.

Learn to be submissive to authority..

Woooow! God and his angels must be really pissed now and judging from what we read in the bible.. they may probably strike this fella down any minute from now... This fella should be cringing already.. jeez..

benzics:
That's my problem with you Christians, you don't even know your Bible.. well let me put to you some violent passages your useless buybull teaches.. you'll probably say "old testament" or "out of context".. fucking hypocrites..

[b] [color=maroon] It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said Thou shall not kill. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).

God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses (Joshua 6). In Judges 21 He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!

Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered

The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.

Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says it’s OK. If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself. Jesus also promoted the idea that all men should castrate themselves to go to heaven: For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it (Matthew 19:12). I don’t know why anyone would follow the teachings of someone who literally tells all men to cut off their privates. [/color] [/b]

Great post. And before any christian brings the old testament rebuttal crap, please ask yourself.. isnt this the same God that u claim to be infaliable and merciful.. a blood thirsty and veangeful God? Isnt this the same God your lord Jesus Christ asked you to worship.. for his mercies endureth forever.. where is his mercies to the several millions of innocent children that would die this year due to wars and starvation.. they dont deserve his mercies huh? As long as you feel great about urself.. then Your lord is doing wonders in your life right? we need to think about it... forget everything you were taught for once and just use common sense.. it is only by asking these questions and understanding the unbelieavble levels of deception propagated by religion that we can truly be tolerant of each other and realise that we are all one and no one should be condemned by reason of his/her culture and/or beliefs.

Gombs:
How many times will you have to be schooled that tithing preceeded Levites, who Bible said paid tithes to Melchizedek through Abraham?

I hope we get delivered from the power of religion in Africa. The brainwashing too strong

truthstands11:
Don't make jest of My Holy King for you are nothing but a single breathe. Respect God so that it shall be well with you.

I know many pple who dont respect your God but it is very well with them.. perhaps more well with them that with you...

Opakan2:
Idol worshipping

As a Christian, you shouldn't use images, crucifix or d likes in worship. it's no longer christianity if you do
So many false doctrines in the world now

And what makes you think your doctrine is the true one or even your religion is the right one?

hopefuLandlord:
DISCLAIMER: This post is about the fears I (Hopefullandlord) faced, I'm not saying such fears are what's keeping people theists but if you're a theist and the shoe fits, please wear it

This is not a thread about HOW I became atheist; NO, its about the fears I had during my journey

Atheism is something I actually became for a long before finally embracing it, this was long before I even knew what the word "atheism" means, so if there had never been an atheist before me, I would have been the first one

Part of the reasons it took so long for me was FEAR, not having anyone around me to guide me on that path made me stick with theism for a long time

Lets examine those fears that kept me theist

1 fear of failing in life due to lack of belief in god

stories were told in churches, at house fellowship, at home, at school, at almost everywhere imaginable about people failing in businesses, academics, sports, marriage, health and other walks of life, and they kept failing until they met Jesus; after meeting Jesus, successes in their businesses, health, marriage, academics followed automatically; these stories usually sounds very spellbinding and are usually followed with the popular bible verse

Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Mount Zion films also cemented this kind of fear, their films show all you need is Jesus

Hey bro, you don't have any hand? No legs? You can still become a Ronaldo Delima if you believe

Hey bro, you don't have a job? You can have a brand new car, a mansion and huge pile of hard bills in the next one minute if you believe

I know I exaggerated in the two examples above but consider stories of a someone driving from Ore to Lagos on empty tank; someone reparking a Car that had no engine (that story was all over Facebook)

our mathematics teacher who is one such born again was actually the most hungry looking out of all our teachers told us a story about a boy who didn't joke with his spiritual life, this boy according to him kept praying, fasting and attending fellowships; this actually took a toll on him when examination came as he was too busy facing spiritual life rather than reading; when results of the examination was out, he had the best result; naturally, we (the students or should I say audience) didn't believe this story at that point but our math teacher wasn't done, he said that boy passed because an angel appeared to him in the examination hall with answers, stood in front of him and told him to write those answers, no one could see the angel except this prayerful boy; we all believed the story ( secondary school brain)

To someone that's used to hearing stories like these almost every month since birth, the message is very clear Jesus provides everything Ask anything with faith and you have it

Such a fear was the easiest to overcome out of all my fears (it wasn't "easy" though)

How I Overcame that fear

I overcame that fear by keen observation, looking at the fact that the man or woman that prays the most is usually one of the poorest around

"Born again" students fail while a doubter like me succeed with flying colours; I then started to wonder where that "examination Hall angel" was when those prayerful students were failing

Seeing believers fail academically and me succeed actually made me realise that no matter the level of prayer you pray, you need to read, no angel would appear to you AND if you don't pray at all but read very well, you would definitely pass with flying colours

This fear was conquered early on in my life which enabled me embrace atheism faster, do you know why?

This is where it gets interesting

As you grow older, such fears transform from something you have much more control over; eg academics which involves studying, seriousness and reading; basically everything is in your hands, hence easy to debunk the "examination hall angel" logic since all power belongs to YOU and YOU alone TO things that you have much lesser control over; e.g Businesses which depends on a lot of luck; once you become an adult with those fears, it would be very hard to shake off, it becomes a part of you, you start thinking you can NEVER succeed in anything without Jesus

2nd fear is fear of witches, wizards, principalities, powers, spiritual attacks from extended families e.t.c

This was very hard for me to shake, growing up in Nigeria and hearing all sorts of stories about jazz being used on people kept me theist for many years too

Stories of people being freed from nightmares and impending death by mentioning the name of Jesus, stories in "fire in the word" by MFM (I read this bulletin every week, it was 10 naira back then)

Many tales of witchcraft attacks, tales about people using the name of Jesus to overcome those "attacks"

There was even a story of ritual killers transporting a woman to the kill location, this woman then kept shouting the name of Jesus in the bus being used to transport her, this name started causing commotion among the kidnappers and they told her to shut up, she however kept shouting the name until one of the kidnappers had to shut her mouth with a duct tape, she then used her hand to write "Jesus" on the floor of the bus, commotion resumed among the kidnappers and they had to stop the bus to let her leave

Stories of people that are born again being rejected by our local gods from being used as sacrifice while an unbeliever was accepted and sacrificed to the gods instead

Stories of extended families using jazz to bring family members back from abroad

Stories of love potions

Stories of relatives using spiritual means to keep their family members from succeeding in life

Stories of destinies being padlocked and thrown in the wilderness

Stories of grandmothers preventing their grandchildren from succeeding through spiritual means

Every Sunday, you're told these stories or their spinoffs

These stories were being reiterated by Christian movies and even secular movies are not left out

How I overcame that fear

The "grandmother" one made me start to question everything, my grandmother would prevent me from succeeding? Pure hogwash


Little by little, I started questioning each one

Witchcraft; that was the second one, there was this girl that people call a witch in school, she was feared by all and tales abound, like co students falling sick after having issues with her, even a particular girl died because of that; one day, I had a disagreement with her, she slapped me and I beat the holy crhap out of her, I beat her knowing I'm dying anyways, all through the rest of that school day, I was looked upon with pity by fellow students, most of them believing they'll never see me again, well I guess you know if I survived or not, right?

Your businesses and work fail because of anything but spiritual; I'm yet to see a business that keeps proper books fail without knowing the reason for the failure; t worst they fail due to bad luck

As I grew up, that fear got smaller and smaller; I looked at the huge level of curses being directed at bosses in Nigeria, its a surprise such bosses didn't fall down and die; how could Babangida kill so many people and none of them think it worthy to use "spiritual means" to eliminate him? Those Indians that are known to exploit us, they are stil going strong

Why can't that "spiritual means" be used to kill Boko Haram? Why is anybody even living since we should've all killed ourselves through those means since there would be someone somewhere who "deserves" those means

That was tough to overcome but I did anyways

3 Fear of what my family members might think

Hopefullandlord, What would your mother say? How would she feel? Your father? Have you thought about that? These words kept ringing in my brain

This was not really a "fear" thing but just a case of being in limbo out of respect, my parents take spiritual matters very seriously

This I overcame but I won't go into details because its more of a personal thing, what rocks my boat may sink yours

4 Fear of Yahweh himself, Hell fire and all

This fear was the hardest, hell fire, I'm burning for eternity

No one to save me, me and the devil who would torture me forever

Movies, books, Christian magazines, bible, everything points to hell one way or another

Here's the thing A visceral fear of something doesn't disappear automatically when you reason that the thing in question doesn't exist. You can still be scared of ghosts late at night just because it's late at night, even though you can clearly reason during a sunny afternoon that spirits are nonsense. Reason unfortunately doesn't override emotion just like that. It took time, fear of hell still remained for a long long time;

early morning preachers use hell fire as theme; you hear of hell almost everywhere
it kept cemented in my head and it was the HARDEST fear to overcome

But I overcame by realising all Muslims are hellbound; no matter how good they lived their lives, I started thinking about the good Muslims around, I then determined that hell is the place for me, let me point out that I don't believe in hell but indoctrination can be an almost impossible thing to overcome

So I started joking Elvis Presley, Fela and most of the popular people are going to hell, I won't be the only one there to be burning forever

Once I overcame this fear, I realised the absurdity of hell fire, it doesn't make ANY sense

Nothing I can do in this life warrants eternal torture

Even if I kill everyone in the world, I still don't think it warrants eternal torture let alone going to hell because of a lack of belief

Here's the thing; fear of Hell is an accident of your birth and not an indication of reality. Your parents/people around you taught you to fear Hell because they fear Hell. If you had been born to Hindus you would have been raised to believe in reincarnation. If you had been born a Viking you would have been taught that the only way to get into Heaven was to cross a rainbow bridge after dying gloriously in battle.

And BTW

Which hell?

Christian hell?

Muslim hell?

Hades?

Little by little, all these fears disappeared and I started taking full responsibility for my life, there's no witch that would prevent my success and I am succeeding


There you have it; all the fears that gave Christianity "life support" in my life for a long time


Thanks for the read

Best post ive read yet. Great one bro

Scalord:
Religious folks.. instead of all these banters, mistrust, anger and killings in d name of your Gods, why dont you just talk to your Gods: Yahwey and Allah (recall how battle ready they are in the holy books) and beg them to slug it out and prove for once who is truly supreme..they can even extend the immortal combat to oda gods- Odin, Ra, Zeus, Budha.. etc while d devil being a common enemy can be d umpire..Then the winner can confisticate the flocks of the loser and the whole world can finally fall behind one God and we can all have a happy ending.. i think it makes perfect sense.. dont ya?

But i guess instead of seeing the sense in this proposal and getting to talk your respective Gods, you would be looking for the opportunity to eat me raw.. lool

johnydon22:
When something worth protesting happens and you would expect Muslims to protest - none of them ever will. take for instance the incessant killing by Extreme Islamic terrorist groups like BH, ISIL and others, the murder of Charley Hebdo and countless others. no Muslim was seen in the street demonstrating their strong disapproval of such actions.

but when a cartoon of Muhammed was Drawn, even muslims in Nigeria protested such trivial matter as drawing a cartoon of a long dead man..

The rightly placed fear people feel for Islam and Muslims is very well placed since no muslim has demonstrated that they don't secretly support the actions of the Jihadists.

so forgive us when we feel fearful near you, you have not given us any reason to feel otherwise.

Religious folks.. instead of all these banters, mistrust, anger and killings in d name of your Gods, why dont you just talk to your Gods: Yahwey and Allah (recall how battle ready they are in the holy books) and beg them to slug it out and prove for once who is truly supreme..they can even extend the immortal combat to oda gods- Odin, Ra, Zeus, Budha.. etc while d devil being a common enemy can be d umpire..Then the winner can confisticate the flocks of the loser and the whole world can finally fall behind one God and we can all have a happy ending.. i think it makes perfect sense.. dont ya?

Vladdo:
Overall, religion - Islam, Christianity & the rest, is just a control system.. and how so effective it has been! Don't question, just BELIEVE and have FAITH! Smh.. nice one @DeLioncourt & Scalord

LOL. Believe and fight fot your masters who are too cowardly and too discreet to fight for theirselves.. they only reveal their conflicting wills to a few deluded folks.

DeLioncourt:
Simple! Just reveal thyself and let us have peace. But No. Apparently the one true God seems to enjoy battles and bloodshed as mzuch as I do call of duty style. Lol

Lool.. We make excuses for this 'one true God' 'ooh God's time is the best' .. he walks in mysterious ways.. no one can question God... Africans surprise me the most.. we are busy playing call on duty on ourselves for religions that were forced on us after we were conquered by the White dudes... hmm...

DeLioncourt:
IGNORANCE?? That is your excuse to justify the crimes of Christianity?? You really need to catch up on your history.
They knew exactly what they were doing. They were not ignorant.

As far as I am concerned, religion is a sham... a divide and conquer tactic that has run for ages. the greatest scam in history.

keep on fighting for your lords and masters.

Well said! Christians, Muslims etc all arguing for their imaginary lords and masters, killing each other for beings that cannot reveal themselves to exist ... Religion teaches you to think stupid... every tribe wih its own gods, myth and fables ..... religion says 'accept by Faith which is another phrase for 'just be stupid, dont think..dont wonder why there are so many religions in the world each with its own concept of the origin of Man, the purpose of its existence and the idea of the afterlife.. yet its OK if you choose one.. by Faith. dont think.. just be stupid.. Imagine if only one of these supreme beings can actually reveal itself to the whole world and end the confusion once and for all... imagine how many people in the world would be saved., how many killings would be avoided.. but the one true god (who can know?) prefers to hide itself because its too blood thirsty and mischievous and wants to confuse his creations as to his existence only to watch them roast like KFC chicken.. so sad

Paulpaulpaul:
Watch some Sci Fi movie, it looks like alien base

LOL. Area 51 most likely.

Paulpaulpaul:
If rapture happens today, these people won't make heaven because they already raised this Yahoo guy above God.




I cry, ......

What does heaven look like and where is it located?

anukulapo:
In that case,there should be a convention where the bible should be reviewed. Since many of the things written are either obsolate or are culture specific.
As a matter of fact,none of the epistles we're written to churches in Nigeria.
In that case,Gal 3:28 applies only to the Galatians. That will be a fact and not cherry picvking.
What do you think?

If that conclusion is logical. Then Yahwey must be the tribal God of the Jews only because it was indicated clearly in the bible that jews were God's chosen people while the rest of us are gentiles.. except if historically we all descended from the biblical jewish nation which am sure is historically incorrect. So why are we killing ourselves worshipping a god that has marked out his people and territory.. while the rest of us can go to hell already? even Jesus was a jew.. if he was really the son of God why wasnt he born as a Roman in which case his miracles and accounts would have been historically acknowledged? and hey.. if he arose from the dead.. why didnt he just show himself to the whole word especially the Pontius pilate so we can all actually believe beyond all reasonable doubt.. why a select few, why ascend in the presence of a select few.. critical reasoning is needed here.

Junia:
You must contribute to the the church and charity .. its good
But tithe is a law
And you must not follow the law
Galatians 3:10-12
10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.”
11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.”
12 But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.”


Since you cannot abide by all thing written in the law
You are actually inviting curses for yourself
And note ... no one is justified by the law

Please go and pray about it

Woow thanks for this divine message. Since we have to obey the law.. i hope i dont catch my wife cheating because i would take her to her dad's place and stone her to death as it is commanded by the holy book.. i dont want to invite curses o.

Junia:
You must contribute to the the church and charity .. its good
But tithe is a law
And you must not follow the law
Galatians 3:10-12
10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.”
11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.”
12 But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.”


Since you cannot abide by all thing written in the law
You are actually inviting curses for yourself
And note ... no one is justified by the law

Please go and pray about it

Wow thanks for this divine message. Since we have to obey the law.. i hope i dont catch my wife cheating because i would take her to her dad's place and stone her to death as it is commanded by the holy book.. i dont want to invite curses o.

felixomor:
No oga landlord

Help me here. What should it be?

felixomor:
Please go n use ur original moniker

This is my real Moniker

GloriaSabipeepz:
The young girls decided to have fun with themselves and pose for the camera in the course of doing that. This has got them trending online with different internet users reacting differently to their public display of affection

http://sabipeepz.com/2017/01/23/checkout-how-these-2-young-females-making-out-in-public-photos/

Turning me on already.. i guess am going to hell sharp sharp.

felixomor:
What u have only showed here is difference in language.
No sense made.

Difference in language.. i see. Like how the xtian God says he sent his only son to die for the sins of many but the Muslim God says he didnt beget no son or how Odin says his thor(god of thunder) is the god of mankind or perhaps the greek king of the gods- Zeus who resides in mount olympus is similar to Yahwey.. God-s ways are myserious indeed.

sirfee:
Lol I'm from a christian background,I was once a devoted christian.I started questioning religion when I was in the secondary school due to the heresy, hypocrisy and conspiracy going on in the religious world.I'm sorry to say this,I don't think I'd go back to church again.I still believe in God(which I will always do) but religion is a .............Thanks.

I still wonder why Christians are damned sure that the Christianity is the one and only true religion. I need convincing to resume going to church.

felixomor:
Hehehe

Who created the universe?

Who created the Universe.. lemme see.. Jehovah, Yahwey, Ra, Odin, Budha, Eledua, Chukwu, Allah.. take your pick... the God of religion is so confused that he manifests differently in different cultures constantly editing his biography and concept of existence and the afterlife.

neduboy17:
I know it sounds strange but i have been thinking of it recently, lets say a woman wants to get an abortion, couldn't God audibly tell her that it is sinful and not to get it done? I get that free will is why we are able to... but surely it wouldn't be taking away free will for God to simply say not to do something. One could still choose to reject God's command. What do you think?

Source: http://www.changeasoul.org/index.php?topic=259.0

Because if you look past the myth.. its obvious God was created by Man, not the other way round. But then again Man made a mess of never been able to agree on which of the God is really 'God' is it Odin, Ra, Zeus, Yawhey, Allah, Budha, Eledua, Chukwu etc.. each one culturally inclined and different in composition and status.. an obvious and pathetic approach to explain the source of human existence as well as instill fear in fellow Man and ensure multi level control of the human mind...

Here we are trying to unravel the supposed mystery hidden in the 'holy book' which we want to approach from a spirtual angle when it is obvious that Mr. Paul was only emphasizing the culture and practice of his time where Women were only to be seen and not heard. Ofcourse more serious societies have since advanced beyond such myopic and regressive cultural practice.. but not Africans... we are too holy and we must spend forever trying to fit in an absurd and embarassing cultural practice into modern day life.. but again what do i know... the scriptures were inspired by God...

nuelyoyo:
So you read the Bible ??

Because our dear Pastors are con men. and the economic situation isnt helping..

because if you dont pay your tithe, your life would be tight.

I imagine what is would be like if our institutions of higher learning actually devote their energy on scholary activities and impactful research as opposed to promoting/meddling into religious issues..

I love the way Humans fight the battle of their so called 'God'