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Premiumwriter2:
I'll personally draft and create a contract and get the very first investors to sign that at all times I'll own 60% of the shares.

All share sales and dilution will come from the remaining 40%. Can't come and form a company and then some modaf*ckers will push me out.

no serious investor will bring his money for that

IGBOSON1:
This is why i ignore all these silly Igbo that want to fall into the trap of Igbo haters who have been trying to sell the narrative that Alaigbo is just 'your 5 south-east states' that Gowon wickedly tried to hem us into in 1967! Where do they expect Igbos like me from that useless 'south-south' to go?

These parasitic Igbo haters are not from the so called 'south-south'.....they're outsiders who want to maintain their control over the hydrocarbons in the area, as well as be in a position to try and economically frustrate a newly emergent Biafra Republic! Some of them who're actually from the 'south-south' are those presently in and around gov't in their states who feel their enjoyment will cease the moment their ethnicity leaves Nigeria....either independently or to be part of Biafra!

this article is not meant to exclude SS Igbos. It is meant to say that Igbos in SE can go it alone.

However SS Igbos must demand to join if the Nigerian government decides to grant Igbos a referendum. I believe your demand would be listened to too by the Nigerian government when it's time.

oyatz:
Not all LGAs are homogeneous sir.

Now let us look at this scenerio,

1) In Ika North LGA, there some who says they are not Igbos but there are some who regard themselves as Igbos, will the referendum hold in such places or only those who identify as Igbos will vote?


2) In Delta State , a local government that's NOT having boundaries with the Anambra State vote for Biafra, are you going to jump over other LGAs to claim this lone LGA.

3) Will non-igbo Indigenes/residents also vote? In Etche LGA, how do you differentiate Ekpeye, Ijaws, Ogoni and Ikwerres living in the LGA?

4) If being Igbos is the criterion for voting in the referendum, how do you justify the insistence of the agitators that the referendum must also hold in Warri, Obudu, Ikot Abasi or Yenegoa which are non-igbo territories?

1. The ikas will vote and majority will carry the vote.
2. Yes. There are cases like that all over the world. Check Gaza map and see where it is even though it's in Palestine.
3. Ekpeye have Igbo names, ijaw and ogoni don't. Ikwere can vote if that's their registered voting center on their pvc
4. That's what we are trying to kill. We want our people to leave non Igbo speakers alone.
Are you ok now

FreeIgbos:
In all we do as Igbos, we must never allow our enemy to intimidate us into accepting a situation that will harm us. I will counter each of your points respectively with positions we should rather go with.

1. You used Lesotho as an example of an enclave nation but you forgot that while Lesotho can easily survive and thrive with just 3 million people, Biafra on the other hand will have over 30 million people! With just 3 million people and surrounded by a peaceful and prosperous country, Lesotho can easily thrive by supplying to South Africa alone but same can't apply in the case of Biafra and Nigeria.

2. Your number 2 point is factual.

3. Point 3 is factual too.

4. Good and factual points here too. However, sometimes passport strength is also determined by demand and supply. Igbos travel a lot and in Biafra we would be demanding visas a lot which can also affect our passport negatively.

5. This point is neither here nor there. It adds no value in real terms.

6. Sure, all tax revenue remain in Biafra, no more robbing Peter to pay Paul.

7. Same as 6 above.

8. This would depend on how efficient we run our nation. Nothing should be taken for granted!

9. We would have no choice than to develop a world-class airline that would perhaps be Africa's best. Landlocked countries all tend to have relatively great airlines. Good examples are Ethiopia and Rwanda. Although, we would be semi landlocked since we would still have access to bring in ships/berges.

10. Yes, it may appear tricky on paper about our access to the Atlantic ocean. But we have no choice than to use any of the rivers that flow into the ocean as routes to bring in imports. We can allow smaller ships to come in or reach agreement with Niger Delta or Equatorial Guinea to use their ports to berth big ships and transfer into berges bound for Biafra. Any attempts to stop or sabotage us would be seen and dealth with as an act of war because it would be a threat to over 30 million people and their means of survival.

11. Nothing to add about point 11, it's factual.

Lastly, whatever happens we must not allow our Igbo brothers in the so-called SS to be cut off from us. Any of them shows willingness to join us would be protected and brought into our fold, any attempts to stopping it would be considered an art of war. You can't say that old Biafra boundaries in 1967 is not obtainable again and still want us to abandon our Igbo speaking people elsewhere. If we control both sides of the Niger River, which would be the case if our Anioma brothers come with us, it will enable us to use it as a bargaining chip as well. We must build a very efficient country that is technology and ICT driven or we perish.

lol you basically agreed with everything I said.

But it funny that you say number 5 is not important. it's actually the most important point I made. Sovereignty gives you legitimacy and a platform to build relationships with very powerful friends.
Again I will leave you with this picture. You should understand what it means vis-a-vis Niger Delta.
As igboid said, we must never be afraid to start small.

P.s Igbos are not 30 million and Nigeria is not 200 million and neither is Lagos over 20 million people. They are all just naija oluwole statistics

oyatz:
About 85% of all wars are fought over the ownership of lands or the rights to claim lands.

It's not as straight forward as you think.

1) Most times, there's no universally acceptable clear cut boundaries of ethnic homelands. It often overlap with the homelands of other ethnic groups ,thus some communities have multiple ethnic ancestries e.g Delta North

2) There is no universally acceptable classification of who is Igbo and who is not.

people who speak a dialect of Igbo are Igbos.

oyatz:
Who is going to define a universally and acceptable borders/boundaries?

local governments are homogeneous and their boundaries are known.
We have roughly 115 Igbo speaking local governments in Nigeria. 96 of those are in SE region

Fejoku if you reply that guy that quoted you, you would derail this thread... please ignore him. Thanks

DCatt:
[s]Which Lagos is built with oil money? The same Lagos that has fed you before Nigeria came to existence and still feeding all your dead states. Lagos was, is and will still remain the savior of Nigeria. Lagos would have been greater if not for your states its forced to tow along and you being a drag to it. Yoruba don't take oil money though we contribute oil and Yoruba don't take up to 3% of what we contributes to Nigeria. So remove Yoruba when you are talking about your deadbeats states of Nigeria. Btw, igbos don't have any oil, Obasanjo just did his igbo people especially Ekwesilli his lover a favor by adding two of your states. No drop of oil in Igboland, if you have you would have blown it up by now. So stop lying to non Nigerians who don'tknow how things are in Nigeria. Anyway the world will soon see you for who you are when you can no longer hide behind Nigeria. Why did you suspend regional govt and still afraid of going back? Because you know Yorubaland will get to keep its money and not have to share and be Dubai overnight and you will be like a wartorn region beside it.[/s]

you don't have the intelligence to be part of this conversation.
I won't reply you again
Cheers

Igboid:
For Igbos saying no to SE only Biafra, you need to start seeing the bigger picture.
After Germany lost the WW2, the allied forces divided Germans into West and East Germany.The West influenced West Germany while the East was under Soviet Union Communism control.
Additionally Soviet Union annexed parts of Eastern Poland to Soviet Union and in return elected to pay Poland back by adding parts of Eastern Germany to Poland.

So when Germans wanted to reunify their country, USSR insisted that she would not give up East Germany control unless Germany accept to give up German territories they had assigned to Poland.

For years Germans refused and fought tooth and nail to get those lands back, but they were weak at that point in time and those against them were stronger.
Eventually Germany accepted that USSR redrawn map of Germany that had seen Germany lose many of it's Eastern villages and towns to Poland.
It was a bitter pill, but it was a necessary sacrifice to achieve German reunification.

Read about it here:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oder%E2%80%93Neisse_line


Today Germany has grown so strong that she can take those territories back if she wishes and no fool can do shii! But she doesn't even care about them anymore. Success is a form of revenge.Germany is the biggest economy and richest Country in Europe, that knowledge is enough for Germans.

So Umunna! Let's start from somewhere. In the future we can choose to adopt the German(forfeit forever) or Israel ( slowly reclaim) strategy once we get stronger.

100%

Igboid:
OP.
Finally our people are starting to see sense.

Getting just 5 SE states Biafra would be a victory.
First if all, it would create a Fulani-Herdsmen free sanctuary for all Igbos, and if we manage to create an economic and military sucees in it, we would generate a high energy suction force that would eventually suck back all our Igbo territories in SS back to us. And we wouldn't even be the ones doing the work, they (Igbos in SS) would be the ones doing the hard work to get back to us.

In life, never miss the opportunity to start somewhere and to start small. It always beat not starting at all or waiting for the perfect condition to start big.
Start small and from somewhere, we even if it means starting small, there would always be room for expansion.
https://www.nairaland.com/6570415/argument-economic-viability-alaigbo

I pray that God blesses you nwanne. Amen.
You got the point 100

goatgoat093:
Tbh I'm with the school of thought that feels it's better we just go with our core 5 states, Obigbo will definitely be added back to Abia state as the Asa/Ndoki people have demonstrated that they are unapologetically Igbos... some parts of Anioma will definitely go with us especially the Aniocha/Oshimili axis... so essentially with the 5 South East states, parts of Enuani and Obiigbo/Egbema, we are set to go as a purely homogeneous Igbo nation and we will be closing our borders for good after that, the rest of Nigeria can go to hell after that.

I agree. But We would not necessarily close our borders. However we would be legally able to police it effectively... To make sure undesirable elements and items don't cross over into our country from Nigeria.
Right now we don't have such powers. so we must allow yoruba and Hausa fulani to decide for us. That is sad

EdoDefence:
selemempe can I copy your post with a few ramifications for a similar post? because Ibos and Ẹdo people are almost in similar situation.

sure

Ikology:
Staying in Nigeria to make it work for all in equity and fairness is better for us. Remember we are largely into commerce. In Nigeria you will have a big area to transact business. Should we form our country, we have a small area to do our trading, across the border sales comes with a lot of bottle necks, knowing our type of neighbours, heavy taxes might be imposed on Biafrans doing business in the North or West, should we secceed.

there are igbo traders in Cameroon, Ghana, Benin and all over Africa.
This is not a point sorry

OfoIgbo:
Unacceptable.

Gowon is not the one to determine the borders of Igboland.

There are millions of Igbos in the SS, and they must come with us if they want.
We will not be abandoning our SS Igbo brothers to perpetual slavery.

A sovereign state of biafra with just the 5 states of SE is better than nothing.
I will leave you with this picture below. If you don't understand what it means vis-a-vis Biafra, then you don't have the cunning or intelligence to talk about biafra

Philadelphia:
Don’t speak like someone who is demented or crazy.

You’re mentioning Niger Delta and oil fields as though you even know anything about these terms.

Don’t you know that Abia and Imo states are Niger Delta States? And by virtue of being Niger Delta States, they’re also “South-South” as your divide and rule masters call it. Let me emphasize to you that another term for “Niger Delta” is “South-South”. So if Abia and Imo states are also “South South” states, why don’t your leaders tell you as well? Na the divide and rule mentality be that.

By the way, I hope you know that Abia and Imo states are oil producing states? If Nigeria has been surviving with only 9 states out of 36 states producing oil, what do you think if there are only 2 out of 5 Biafran states producing oil? You think Biafra will not survive?

So far, what’s the developmental index of these 9 oil producing states compared to Kaduna and some other states in the northern parts of Nigeria that doesn’t produce oil?

Finally, Akwa Ibom being the largest oil producing state in Nigeria is nowhere close to Lagos in terms of development, infrastructures or internally generated revenues even though Lagos is said to have discovered crude oil in 2016.

You see? No be by oil o.

The age of Methuselah has no significance with the wisdom of Solomon.

You get the point now?

That is just it.

they don't understand what we mean. They think with oil that's why the country is a cesspit of blood

Karlovych:
Don't forget the fact that algae soup and skull mining will be prohibited in the Biafra

of course nwanne

In this piece, I'm going to let you see why getting Biafra with only 5 SE states may not be a bad idea.
I will list my points below.

1. Other enclaved countries. Biafra would not be the only enclaved country in the world.
Lesotho is entirely enclaved inside South Africa. They have a population of almost 3 million and still have a higher GDP per capita than Nigeria. As far as we can have an internationally brokered deal with Nigeria to freely allow us use Nigerian airspace for civilian planes, we would be just fine.

2. Oil and gas money The south east has more oil and gas reserves than the Federal allocation it gets.
With oil in Abia and imo States and gas in Anambra state, we have enough of that resource to gradually build a more sustainable economy if we plan well. Don't forget that Nairobi Kenya was built with money from tea and coffee. Nairobi is more beautiful than Lagos built with oil money.

3. Military Today Igbos have no military and have no right to form a military. If we are allowed to go with our 5 states, we would have the right to build a military, To buy as much deadly weapons and defence technology as we can afford to buy. We can get Israel to even help us with a low budget iron Dome technology for aerial self defense. We can be able to take the war to any future enemies without being sitting ducks.

3 Customs, immigration today Igbos have no right or sovereignty to defend our land. Any abokì can walk from futa jallon and come and settle in the hills of Enugu. All we can do is rant as far as fulani government refuses to act, we can't do anything. Any trailer filled with whatever can drive into SE today without us being able to check what is inside. With biafra we can legally mount checks on our borders to check what is going in and out according to international law. Do you know that oil is being smuggled out of Anambra on a daily basis? In biafra, we can have checks for things like that legally

4. Passport if they allow us take our 5 states, we would also be obliged to drop the overabused Nigerian passport that can't even get you into Cape Verde. We would create our own passport and build its reputation on a virgin ground and with hindsight on how reputation can ruin a passport

5. Foreign diplomacy today Igbos are not known in international politics. With our 5 states, we would have the right to join the United Nations. We would have the right to build relationships with other countries on equal basis. We can even become a closer friend and protege to Israel, Our president can stand Infront of the UN general assembly every year to speak for us. We would automatically become a sovereign people. Very very important

6. Federal tax if we get our 5 states as biafra, all the billions of naira that goes from our region to Abuja in taxes will stop. That is money that we can use to build our nation

7. Federal fees instead of paying Nigeria government for things like passport, driving license, vehicle papers, radio and TV licences etc, you pay it to the Biafran government. That money can help us achieve a lot.

8. Policing in our 5 states, we will no longer have abokì people mounting road blocks on our roads and killing our hustling youths in the name of policing all because of deep-seated hatred. Biafra police would be 100% Igbo

9. Airport and travel with biafra of 5 states, we would now fly and land in Enugu (for instance) instead of Lagos or Abuja. Our government can even partner Air Peace to create an airline carrier that can later rival Ethiopian airlines. Where there is a will there is a way. Remember that

10. Sea port it gets tricky here but we have options that may be better than going to Lagos to clear our goods. We can import with more air cargo than with ships. Or We can spend money and dredge the river Niger and dock at Onitsha river port. All we need to do as a country is to buy barges and keep them at onne port or Duala port, once a ship docks there, all cargoes going into Biafra would be transferred to the badges and sailed up the river Niger to Onitsha. Or We can also negotiate with Nigeria to use the Enugu-port Harcourt rail to transport containers and pay Nigerian customs. Either way, we would be fine.

11. Capital flight to Lagos and Abuja Igbos who are quick to build their mansions and businesses in Lagos, Abuja, port Harcourt etc would be forced to come home as they automatically lose the right to live freely in Nigeria. Those returning igbos and their money would help us start building or country from day one


12. I will come with more points but however, I'm not saying it would be a walk in the park. I'm just saying it is still better than Nigeria 1000%. But Building an enclaved biafra that makes sense would take a higher sense of responsibility and imagination than our current leaders are exhibiting, but it can be done

Modified
This thread is about those who are quick to blackmail Igbos and Biafra with the term '5 enclaved states'. It is not in any way meant to say that Igboland doesn't extend beyond 5 south east states.
However it is meant to show that we have more to gain in an enclaved biafra than in Nigeria.
I want people who are opposed to this idea to tell me how it is better for Igbos to remain in Nigeria than to leave with our 5 core states (at least for now)

FreeBiafra2018:
Where exactly is your location as you were typing this?

I am far away from Nigeria. And I don't regret it anymore.
Naija don cast

Asgard73:
You’re making more sense... but the economy is grounded and funds no Dey for those weak youth to disembark

check cheap African countries doing well.
They have even stopped issuing passport booklets now. In the history of Nigeria it has never happened that passport booklets are no where to be found. Buhari wants to limit emigration

justtoodark:
ehen....you shvt up....!!

some igbos on this thread already told you to shvt up too....

ntoor,noisemaker....

sharrap or you will get e-bashed....

you are not intelligent enough to speak on the topic so please stfu

Asgard73:
Okay you make sense..

But this is not the time for this

Fulani herdsmen are trying much to settle and build empire ... and expand.

We need to stop them.stopping them is the most important thing right now for igbos.

Igbo and traveling are 5/6.

the Igbos who needs to leave and leave ASAP are those who are too timid to join IPOB and who are not gainfully employed in Nigeria.

They would be the targets when fulani people start their onslaught. The cowards won't face IPOB head-on. They will use our innocent youths as fodder.

Those innocent youths are better for us if they are far away from Nigeria.

justtoodark:
you have nerves to be insultin people here....
why should northerners like igbos when they read something like this....??

abegi,make una pack una things and go already....you igbos are too much trouble....

nonesense....

shut up

Ekpeitit:
I personally don't care about IPOB,Biafra or Igbo people, what annoys me is that they can't even fight on their own.They are trying very hard to drag the Niger Delta minorities into their wahala.
A group of people that can't fight for autonomy on their own are a bunch of cowards and I hope the Federal Government of Nigeria crushes these idiots once and for all.

says a yoruba Móslem miscreant with scare face from heebadan

Asgard73:
Leave Nigeria to other countries and what wil the end result

Igbos are everywhere .. still traveling till tomorrow and coming home

So if we all leave Nigeria wht will happen to igboland and their elderly ones

What will happen to their young ones and farms

Leave igboland to where?

Yoruba people that have left Yoruba land and today legal herdsmen have taken over and are ruling the indigenous Yoruba with all Yoruba states ghosted and deserted

I don’t think igbos are fools

BecUse till tomorrow igbos will still go home to celebrate Christmas, Easter, August meeting,new yam festivals, Ofala,

So they should leave igboland becaue Nigeria is a Fulani and Yoruba territory as you claim

You forget say ... igbo land have existed before Nigeria and white and will exits after Nigeria

Will only suggest since you’re leaving with your entire family generation
Help us tell us your village and community

I’m personally interested in buying your family land and properties as you engage in a journey of no return

Atleast we can start from your fathers home

my advice is to Igbo youths.
If you have up to a million naira... don't say you want to go and start one yeye business. Leave Nigeria immediately.
You will come back later with glory.
Nigeria is a failed state and I can't keep quiet and watch my tribe fail with Nigeria

PoloG:
we can see the progress in your region
When your leaders were aligning with the north from 1960-2015 you didn't say anything..
Bloody Pharisees

oh you are yoruba.
Of course our people were Awolowo, Obasanjo, Aikomu, Tunde Idiagbon, Ernest Shenokan, oladipo Diya, Obasanjo and osinbajo.
We have really been aligning with north.

My advice to igbos still stands.... leave Nigeria enmass

PoloG:
I thought igbos were brave? why do you want to run away?
Cursed tribe

you have turned the country to an abokì society. Only abokì can enjoy the chaos in the country today.

And oh we are not a cursed tribe. We are a progressive people who deserve to be in a progressive country

juniorjoe:
and who said i'm from yoruba?

Your yeye English

Generalnomercy:
You're a big fool.

Ignos should leave their ancestoral lands for you terrorists to occupy and take over?

Thunderstorms on your head.

Onyeara.

Igbos who can see what I'm saying can hear my voice.
It is an unpopular opinion. But it is not unreasonable
Just as Femi Adesina boldly said on AIT, what is the need of the land if you are dead.
He said it and he means. It is the mentality of the abokìs who run this country.
Your ancestral lands or your life. And they will get away with it because yorubas are still doing one yeye Nigeria with them.

Educated Igbos who have the opportunity to leave... leave. Don't look at the land. The land is nothing. You can buy land in Alberta, in Ontario...leave abokì country alone for your life. Don't be unfortunate

Rahkman:
Igbo ignore him ...... i am an igbo man and i am not going anywhere lets stay back and develop our country nigeria

Nigeria is not an igboman's country. It is an abokì country that the yorubas have sworn to help them keep if they made them president every 8 years

FreedomWinsNow:
You want us to leave our land for you ? Lazy thief.

Our ancestral land is not up for sale. To the last MAN

I am igbo. I didn't want to leave Nigeria before. But now that I have left, I keep asking myself why I didn't leave sooner.
Look at what is happening to the Tigrays of Ethiopia. The world is silent as they are being cleansed out.
Look at how America and Australia wiped out the natives
Look at the Asaba massacre. They white diplomats in Nigeria in 1970 pretended like nothing happened.
Buhari and his fula people will kill Igbos again and yorubas will cheer them and SS will take advantage to take more of our boundary communities.

We have to systematically save our ethnic group by moving to Canada and Australia.

We are surrounded by idiots. The SW is in bed with the Fula
The SS are still playing oil politics. Why else do you think an ikwere or Ika person would look you in the face and tell you they are not Igbo?
The north will win again and again because the only opposition they have is a lone voice.


So what is my advice to Igbo youths? Leave Nigeria enmass
Don't look back. Nigeria is an abokì country with a love for blood. The world is very very very large. Don't look back. Leave Nigeria enmass.
If you have money, move to Canada or Australia via studies. US and UK are still viable options and Germany offers tuition free education.
If you don't have money, move to upward mobile African countries like Kenya, Ghana, ivory coast, Namibia, Botswana etc.

Believe me, once you settle your family and yourself outside Nigeria, you won't miss Nigeria one bit.

And for your information, Nigeria won't change o! Forget story, Nigeria won't change. It will remain a third world country because the tribe in the majority are among the least educated in the whole world. Look at their sister countries like Niger, Chad, Mali, Burkina Faso and Ginuea Bissau
They have structured the country in such a way that no region can make it.
I laugh when yorubas brag with Lagos...Lagos is a shit hole shittier than Enugu town. Marina is dirty and that is even the downtown of Lagos.
Abuja is ok but then, you are surrounded by violent abokìs who can start killing you because the French President insulted Muhammed.

There are ethnic groups who have more diaspora population than in their home countries.
Israelis
Irish
English
Portuguese
Swedes Spanish etc are examples of ethnic groups with a larger diaspora population.
Think about a future where igbos are the black majority in countries like Canada and Australia.

Leave Nigeria now and don't look back. Let the world be our ashtray. Let abokì take over Nigeria, they would still not know what to do with it because they don't have the mental capacity to reason beyond cow and Muhammed