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TO BE FOREWARNED IS TO BE FOREARMED.

Take heed that NO man deceive you. —Yeshua in Mathew 24:4.

https://www.prophecysigns.com/post/will-the-church-go-through-the-great-tribulation-is-the-rapture-imminent

https://blowthetrumpet.com.au/will-there-be-a-pre-tribulation-rapture-part-1/

https://www.prophecysigns.com/post/how-to-prepare-to-go-through-the-great-tribulation

https://endtimestruth.com/end-times-chronology/events-signaling-the-end/

http://www.paulbenson.me/downloads.html

http://www.paulbenson.me/the-rapture-theory.html

Pre-tribulation “rapture” is: a DOCTRINE of DEMONS and HUGE deception of satan that will cause great falling away as Apostle Paul cautioned so plentifully.

Christ is NOT coming to beam you up until AFTER the Great Tribulation from antichrist. HE said so in Mathew 24:29-31. And so did Paul in 2 Thes 2. BELIEVE CHRIST and HIS Apostles .

Why?

1. Because people who believe this will be so unprepared to withstand the great tribulation they will “fall away”.

Where in the scriptures is this “theory” of yours.

2. IT IS PURE WISHFUL THINKING AND FANTASY.


YOU righteousness or upright or whatever you call yourself, and your twin Olagbedun?? are all talk on online platform BUT I suspect you both are scared, weak little wimpy christians offline who would not last a second when real persecution comes.

Christ suffered for you but you want to escape easily. Selfish lots! Weak “Christians”. Super spiritual on paper but not when rubber meets road.

Uprightness100:
Absolutely on Point!
Only very Few Believers know and Understand this.
Many others are confused.

The RAPTURE is the next event on the Prophetic timetable

Pre tribulation “rapture” is one of the doctrines of demon that Apostle Paul warned about! In 2nd Timothy 4:1-3. This makes those who teach it deceivers posing as angels of light; whether they know it or not.

Yeshua HIMSELF TOLD us when HE is coming back!!!! Listen to HIM, NOT your popular false pastors and teachers.


1 Timothy 4:1-3
King James Version
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.

Matthew 24:
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

2Thes2:
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

OLAADEGBU:
THE RAPTURE

What Is the Difference Between the Rapture and the Second Coming?

This is one of the greatest misconceptions about prophecy. The Rapture and the Second Coming are often confused, but they are distinct events, with distinct purposes, on God's prophetic timeline.

At the Rapture, Jesus will return for His saints.
At the Second Coming, He will return with His saints.

At the Rapture, Jesus will not descend to earth.
At the Second Coming, He will descend to the Mount of Olives as a prelude to His earthly reign.

At the Rapture, Jesus will bring a blessing for His saints.
At the Second Coming, He will bring judgment for those who have rejected Him.

The Rapture could occur at any moment.
The Second Coming will occur seven years later.

Source


Simples.

Sir or Madam:

I agree and I respect and salute what you are doing here: your thorough knowledge and understanding of eschatology. Most importantly, I admire how you diligently contrast this “righteousness” fella’s rants with sound doctrine.

That said, the increase (as in birthing pain) of wars and rumours of wars etc ARE signs of the end of age. The comparison to birth pains just means these signs will get worse and worse before Yeshua returns. .

Read Matthityahu 24:3 and pay special attention to last 12 or 11 words of this verse.

3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

OkCornel:
Jesus is coming quickly when there’s no Jewish temple constructed yet to trigger a chain of events that’ll lead to his return?


1 Thessalonians 5 v 1-5
1 Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you,
2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.
3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,”destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.
5 You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness.

2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4;
1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ AND OUR BEING GATHERED TO HIM, we ask you, brothers and sisters,
2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.
3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for THAT DAY WILL NOT COME UNTIL the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.


Righteousness2, it seems Apostle Paul had your like in mind when he wrote 2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4. So accurate!

Meanwhile, war and rumours of war is not a sign of the end times. They are beginning of birth pains. Matthew 24 makes this too clear;

Matthew 24 v 4-8;
4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you.
5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.
6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but SEE TO IT THAT YOU ARE NOT ALARMED. Such things must happen, BUT THE END IS STILL TO COME.
7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.


Believers, study the scriptures to avoid being manipulated by fear and know exactly what to watch out for as signs of the end.

In Jesus’ words, this is when the end will come;

Matthew 24 v 14-21 & 29-31
14 And this GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, AND THEN THE END WILL COME
15 “So when you see standing IN THE HOLY PLACE the abomination that causes desolation, spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—
16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house.
18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak.
19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!
20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.
21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.
29 “Immediately after the distress of those days
“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.
31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

Regarding the annoying obsessions of the poster called “Olaadegbu”. Thought I was the only one who noticed.

First, I can not stand this name. Per my discerning Spirit, something about this name and the owner appears very manipulated like a puppet for a shadowy figure.

2nd, I have always thought s/he is a non-African (“American” non-dark skin) posing as an African. As his or her posts suggests, she has an agenda to indoctrinate with a very perverse form of White American “Christianity”.

S/he probably believes god/Jesus is white republican, bible is about white people and USA is the central theme of bible. And heavens is decorated with American flag and paved streets of American dollars. Foolishness.

Either that, or

3rd, s/he is a product of severe case of brainwashed whitewashed African with severe case of lowest form of self esteem.

All and all, s/he is an imposter; the ones the scriptures called workers of evil posing as “light”. I have attempted to counter his posts but quickly realise s/he is most likely a programmed robot.

Listen here! I don't have time for argumentS. So, I will make these points and be finished here, so do not expect a response from me.

Speaking in Tongues is a spiritual language NOT previously known to man. Can it be known language? Of course. But, It does NOT have to be known. .

Here is a question for you to ponder. CAN GOD INVENT NEW LANGUAGES NOT PREVIOUSLY IN EXISTENCE TODAY? Is it NOT GOD who created known languages in the first place. Is GOD now unable to invent new tongues today?

Hint: any answer but "GOD CAN" is Invalid right off the bat. And if GOD CAN, then case closed! Because, If HE can, THEN, HE is creating new languages TODAY and that's WHAT speaking in tongues are. However, I suspect pride and arrogance will not let you admit that speaking in tongue can be a completely unknown language.

1. 1 Cor 14: 2 "For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries".
How can speaking a known language be a mystery to anyone or to GOD? It can only make sense for unknown tongues to be called "mysterious" if the tonguge is not known to humanity. Full Stop. . Also, note: "speaketh NOT unto men", but unto GOD, for NO MAN undestands him. Paul did not say "no one in the room understand him. Paul said "NO MAN"...like ever.

3. Acts 2: 8 "8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born".
It says here that they "heard" in their own tongue. THEY "heard". IT does NOT say that the apostles were speaking the languages. So, don't you think it's possible (supernatural, yes) that the apostles were NOT actually speaking the various known languages, but the recipients heard them in their own langauges per the providence of GOD.

I SHALL REPEAT AGAIN. SPEAKING IN TONGUES IS REAL. IT IS SPIRITUAL LANGUAGE DESIGNED TO BE A MYSTERY UTTERED FROM SPIRIT TO SPIRIT FOR COMMUNICATING WITH GOD. THEREFORE IT IS NOT A LANGUAGE IN EXISTENCE.

TO CLAIM IT HAS TO BE A LANGUAGE KNOWN TO MAN IS TO DENY THE CAPABILITY OF ALL POWERFUL GOD AND TO DECLARE YOURSELF ALL KNOWNING= PRIDE AND ARROGANCE.

DO NOT TRY TO RATIONALISE WHAT YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND. ADMIT SPEAKING IN TONGUES IS QUITE POSSIBLY A NON EXISTENT LANGUAGE BECAUSE GOD CAN DO ANYTHING. IF YOU FANCY IT, ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO GIVE GENEROUSLY AND HE WILL GRANT YOU THE ABILITY TO SPEAK IN UNKNOWN LANGUAGE.

THERE ARE 6 THINGS GOD HATES, 7 IS AN ABOMINATION. PRIDE AND ARROGANCE ARE ONE OF THEM. DON'T BE ON GOD'S HATE LIST.

cornelboy:
Unknown tongue simply means a language that the speaker didn't understand i.e a foreign language.
You got that?

The gibberish they are speaking today is not from the holy spirit.

ACTS re: account of Apostle Paul's conversion:

It's simple. The men accompanying Paul saw a bright light, but they did not see anyone in it. That They heard a voice Does not imply that they understood what was being said. It's pure common sense.

Simple question to ponder: DO YOU UNDERSTAND EVERY VOICE (NOICE) THAT YOU HEAR? No right? Ahh. There you go.

Contradiction explained. Case closed. Christ is LORD. The Bible is indeed supernatural and ITS author is the Living GOD.

8. Mathew vs Mark vs. Luke vs John on account of resurrection:

Again, put them together to form a complete story. The women went to the tomb while it was still dark, though the sun was still starting to rise. The tomb initially closed off, then an angel rolled it back just as they were coming. There were 2 angels (men to Luke), one sat on the rock, the other inside the tomb. Also, in the tomb was a man sitting (Christ) who they did not recognize initially, but after he had spoken to them, they were enlightened.

Easy.

7.Matthew vs Luke re: crucifixion:

It's simple. Both were initially taunting him, but one went too far to say "are you not Christ", save yourself. And, the other must have gotten some sense and dialed back the taunting and said "remember me LORD"....Very simple.

6. John vs. Mark re: the cross.


Jesus carried his cross some of the way to the Calvary, then a man named Simon helped him along the way. Simple.

Very simple.

5. Matthew vs. Acts re: Judas The Iscariot.

Put the two stories together. Judas bought the field with the blood money, then once he was remorseful, collected the money back to return it. When he could not return it, threw it down in the temple. He went to hang himself, and when he died, his guts split open and his bowls spilled. SIMPLE.

This is not a contradiction. It's a matter of telling a story from two different angles.

4. Matthew vs Luke re: Jesus's genealogy.

BTW: there are more than one people named Joseph back then as it is today, it should be common sense, but I guess not. Anyway, Matthew focused on Jacob (Joseph side) as the ancestor while Luke focused on Heli (Mary’s side). Note: Joseph was son (in law) of Heli by marriage. Heli was really Mary’s forefather, which makes Heli Joseph father by marriage.

Matthew focused only on 27 forefathers and Luke being the detailed personality that he is listed ALL 42 generations. So that means, there were truly 42 generations before Christ. This means that there are forefathers that Matthew skipped that Luke listed that would make sense for why some of the forefathers Matthew listed were different from Luke.

- Luke mentions no journey to Egypt because Luke did, duh. Gosh. Must they all tell the same thing. It makes for interesting story to get the different Angles, does it not?

After 40 days, they fled to Egypt. "Immediately" is irrelevant and open to interpretation. Hardly a contradiction.

3. Jeremia 7 vs Exodus on account of sacrifices:

Jeremia 7 does not say GOD did not command Sacrifices, it is saying that GOD did not give them special command "regarding" sacrifices, except that they OBEY HIS VOICE and KEEP HIS COMMANDEMENTS. Please read well before jumping to conclusion.

Lack of understanding of simple English may be the problem, but I suspect it's the Spirit of AntiChrist that is causing this mis-reading of simple English Language.

2. 2 Samuel vs. 1 Chronicles re: David's census.

it helps to understand why the LORD was angered. David was trusting in his warriors rather than GOD. God wanted to punish Isreal so by HIS providence HE allowed Satan to deceive David into taking census. GOD ALLOWED SATAN, THEREFORE IT WAS BOTH CORRECT.

GOD ALLOWED SATAN. SATAN ACTED, HOWEVER GOD ALLOWED. Satan is still under GOD and cannot do anything without HIS consent. Remember this.

This is not a contradiction.

1. Genesis account re creation.

Genesis 1 and 2 do not give different accounts. Genesis 2:20 only tells that it was Adam who named animals, not the order of creation. It also stated there was no mate like and for him, then vs 21-22, lays out that Eve was then created. This does not mean it was Adam, animals, Eve.

-Same principle with creation of light vs darkness. On the first day, it tells us what God did with the light he would create on 4rth day. He separated "generic" light from dark. Then, on 4th day, HE then made the sun, moon as the specific "light" he spoke about on 1st day. Simple.

-Man was created last in order of creation and beasts were formed from ground period. Full stop. Gen 1:20 only indicates that birds fly above waters NOT that they were made out of waters.

-Noah was ordered to bring a pair of ALL living creations and in addition to bring in clean beasts by 7s and unclean by 2s. You see, let's assume that most living creations are unclean, then there's a special order to take 7 of clean beasts male/female in addition to 2s of everything else. No contradiction there.

-Genesis 8 says that the waters receded and Noah's ark rested on the mountains on the 7th but the mountains were not fully seen until the 10th. How is this a contradiction? The water started receding on the 7th month and finally receded such that the whole of mountain can be seen on the 10th month. Again, how is this a contradiction?!

I knew it; I went thru all your apparent contradiction and as I suspected, they are easily explained.

First off, you have to understand that biblical account is from different persons' perspective and as such, people will report from different angle/sides. You have to put the different accounts together to form a complete picture of what happened.

1. Genesis account: Genesis 1 and 2 do not give different accounts. Genesis 2:20 only tells that it was Adam who named animals AFTER animals had been created; this not telling of another order of creation. It also stated there was no mate like and for him, then vs 21-22, lays out that Eve was then created. This does not mean it was Adam, animals, Eve.
-Same principle with creation of light vs darkness. On the first day, it tells us that what God did with the light he would create on 4rth day. He separated "generic" light from dark. Then, on 4th day, HE then made the sun, moon as the "light" he spoke about on 1st day. Simple.
-Man was created last in order of creation and beasts were formed from ground period. Full stop. Gen 1:20 only indicates that birds flew above waters NOT that they were made out of waters.
-Noah was ordered to bring a pair of ALL living creations. Also in addition to bring in clean beasts by 7s and unclean by 2s. You see, let's assume that most living creations are unclean, then there was a special order to take 7 of clean beasts male/female in addition. No contradiction there.
-Genesis 8 says that the waters receded and Noah's ark rested on the mountains on the 7th but the mountains were not fully seen until the 10th. How is this a contradiction? The water started receding on the 7th month and finally receded such that the whole of mountain can be seen on the 10th month. Again, how is this a contradiction?!

2. 2 Samuel vs. 1 Chronicles: it helps to understand why the LORD was angered. David was trusting in his warriors rather than GOD. God wanted to punish Isreal so by HIS providence HE allowed Satan to deceive David into taking census. GOD ALLOWED SATAN, THEREFORE IT WAS BOTH CORRECT. GOD ALLOWED SATAN. SATAN ACTED, HOWEVER GOD ALLOWED. This is not a contradiction.

3. Jeremia 7 vs Exodus: Jeremia 7 does not say GOD didn't command Sacrifices, it is saying that GOD did not give them special command "regarding" sacrifices, except that they OBEY HIS VOICE and KEEP HIS COMMANDEMENTS. Please read well before jumping to conclusion.

4. Matthew vs Luke re: geneology: BTW: there are more than one people named Joseph, it should be common sense, but I guess not. Anyway, Matthew focused on Jacob (Joseph’s forefathers side) as the ancestor while Luke focused on Heli (Mary’s forefathers side). Note: Joseph is “son” (in law) of Heli by marriage. Matthew focused on only 27 forefathers and Luke being the detailed personality that he was listed ALL 42 generations. So that means, there were truly 42 generations before Christ. This means that there are forefathers that Matthew skipped that Luke listed. This would make sense for why discrepancies in the forefathers listed between the two authors.
- Luke mentions no journey to Egypt because Luke did, duh. Gosh. Must they all tell the same thing. It makes for interesting story to get the different Angles, does it not? Synthesis: After 40 days, they fled to Egypt. "Immediately" is irrelevant and open to interpretation.

5. Matthew vs. Acts re Judas: Put the two stories together. Judas bought the field with the blood money, then when he was remorseful, collected the money back to return it. When he could not return it, he threw it down in the temple. He went and hung himself, and when he died, his guts split open and his bowls spilled. SIMPLE.

6. John vs. Mark re: the cross: Jesus carried his cross some of the way to the Calvary, then a man named Simon helped him along the way. Simple.

7. Matthew vs Luke crucifixion: It's simple. Both were initially taunting him, but one went too far to say "are you not Christ", save yourself. And, the other must have gotten some sense and dialed back the taunting and said "remember me LORD"....Very simple.

8. Mathew vs Mark vs. Luke vs John on account of resurrection: again, put them together to form a complete story. The women went to the tomb while it was still dark, though the sun was still starting to rise. The tomb initially closed off, then an angel rolled it back just as they approached the tomb.There were 2 angels (men to Luke), one sat on the rock, the other inside the tomb. Also, in the tomb was a man sitting (Christ) who they did not recognize initially, but after he had spoken to them, they were enlightened and recognised Christ. Very simple.

9. Acts account of Apostle Paul's conversion: It's simple. They men accompanying Paul saw a bright light, but they did not see anyone in it. That They heard a voice Does not imply that they understood what was being said. It's pure common sense. DO YOU UNDERSTAND EVERY VOICE (NOICE) THAT YOU HEAR?!

I am quite sure that 99.999% if not 100% of these apparent “contradictions” are explainable.

I can tell that you embellished and exaggerated just by looking up by the first few lists of contradictions that you gave.

Additionally, YOU CANNOT WRITE OFF AS CONTRADICTION THINGS YOUR SIMPLE MIND CANNOT COMPREHEND.

If It makes you sleep at night to dismiss the GOD of the bible, however that sleep is not restfully. Repent! And believe in the one who died for your sins. Leave all these long stories alone.

Well Mr Gospel preacher,

I approve this your message. On point and on time.

Ecclesiastics 1:9 says there is nothing new under the sun.

GOD can indeed repeat what happened in Genesis; destruction with Flood; this time it is with fire. HE always saves a remnant.

Repentance is paramount. And believe in Yeshua, LORD and messiah.

Carry on…..

Dtruthspeaker:
1) The Temple of The Lord (Church) was to be administered by Aaron and his sons Forever! Exodus 27:21, chapter 28:1 and 43 (And not Aaron and his children or Aaron and his sons and daughters" )

2) The Law of Sabbath in Exodus 20:10 wives (women) were impliedly exempted. (This should tell you something)

3) "Three times in the year, all males are to appear before The Lord" Exodus 23:17 (Clearly, women are not allowed to come directly near God).

Now, onto dismantling your twisting of God's word.....I bet you did not imagine someone would take the time to check your scripture usage.

Exodus 20: 10 (?)- says nothing about extempting women from anything. Which bible are you reading from?

Exodus 23:17: men were the ones to present before God with sacrificial offerings for their families (wives, children). SEE Deut. 16:16 for contexts. So, if women came to offer scarifices as well, THEN, who would care for their children and household? Making pilgrimage to participate in sacrifices was NOT an easy journey or feat. You want the entire household/menfolk to drag their many wives and many children to make pilgrimage to sacrifice unto the LORD. Are you joking? Remember, there were no plane flights, ubers, trains, ships, and cars etc. Just their two feet.

Deutronomy 16:16 Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the Lord thy God in the place which he shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles: and they shall not appear before the Lord empty:


THESE PASSAGES YOU OUTLINED SAY NOTHING ABOUT ONLY MEN BEING IN THE PRESENCE OF GOD. DON'T TWIST GOD'S WORD TO YOUR DETRIMENT.

YOU think you are clever with this inference or extrapolation of Levitical Priests and the physical Tabernacle to today's Church and Pastoriship. First of all, we are in the NEW COVENANT and the Old Covenant Tabernacle and its priests no longer apply.

Now, to answer a folly (YOU) according to your folly lest you be wise in your own eyes (Proverbs 26:4-5)--->

Going by your unbiblical logic, THEN, ALL pastors and all ministers of GOD NEED TO BE OF LEVITICAL LINEAGE IE; OF THE TRIBE OF LEVI OR SONS OF AARON. See Deut 18:1, Hebrews 7:5.

Pray tell, HOW MANY ACTUAL DECENDANTS OF LEVI OR AARON DO YOU KNOW OF TODAY? Talkless of pastors of Aaronic lineage.

IS YOUR PASTOR OF LEVITICAL OR AARONIC LINEAGE? IF NOT, THEN CONSIDER HIM FRAUD, per your logic.

Dtruthspeaker:
1) The Temple of The Lord (Church) was to be administered by Aaron and his sons Forever! Exodus 27:21, chapter 28:1 and 43 (And not Aaron and his children or Aaron and his sons and daughters" )

2) The Law of Sabbath in Exodus 20:10 wives (women) were impliedly exempted. (This should tell you something)

3) "Three times in the year, all males are to appear before The Lord" Exodus 23:17 (Clearly, women are not allowed to come directly near God).

Op,

While Apostle Paul, admonition may have been instruction for churches beyond the local church at that point in time. However, today in most civilised regions, people or say women do not become disruptive in services any longer.

This instruction would also apply if it were the men who were being unruly in service.

It was addressed to women specifically because it turns out in the culture and at the time period, women were very influenced by goddess worship and eminence of women which enabled or emboldened women then to speak mostly out of cheer ignorance of scriptures and perhaps the need to assert dominance on men.

Possibly can be compared to the extreme feminist movements if exercised in church for today’s culture. THEN, would Pauls instruction apply for today.

But, nothing wrong with women in orderly and in good knowledge speak up in church; especially if called by GOD to such.

YOU talk TOO much!! All the info on this so called crusade is posted on the flyer! No need to say any more.

Thing is: You are addicted to the attention of posting long epistles along with your bad news. Like an itch that has to be scratched. You cant not post. Try 21 days fast off Nairaland, you will live.

Warri getting blessed meanwhile you wish America and elsewhere death and bad tidings.

For your eternal life, Hope this pastor you promote is not false miracle worker scriptures warned about! All that glitters is not gold.

Ammishaddai:
Don't mind them . They keep disobeying the bible because it's goes against their sickening desires

As long as this desire is of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit gives gifts and no where does it say any gift including teaching is only reserved for males.

You, yourself, are you sure you are not attempting to “quench the Spirit of God” by your desire to control women and very possibly out of low self esteem and ego trips. Let that sink in.

Many scriptural passages were not meant to be read and understood or applied in isolation.



Meaning: CONTEXT is EVERYTHING. These passages about Paul prohibiting women teaching in church need to be interpreted within socio-cultural, political, geographical contexts of the time in which this was written.

Briefly historical and social context: it had to do with the worship of Roman goddess Artemis and the dominance of women in temple worship. History also suggests women in those days were often disruptive and unruly in church service. And most were not as educated in Torah or the scriptures or much else and were mostly teaching fables and polluted doctrines. Hence, why Paul said women should keep silent and ask their husbands at home.

I encourage you to thoroughly research what was happening in that specific time frame to het a proper understanding of why Paul made this statement. And yes, Paul NOT Yeshua. If you notice, Paul said “I”, not the LORD. Pauls letters to the churches were inspired of the Holy Spirit but by no means was he meaning to say “word for word” everything is from GOD for all generations.

BS: if you are going to stick with strict understanding and application of Pauls statement, then you need to follow thru ALL. He talked about slaves. Heck, we should all go ahead and own slaves as long as treat them well.

Note well: You also know that Europeans used the bible to justify slavery just as you are using this Pauls statement to justify denying women exercise of their God given gifts and talents; which by the way, gifts of God like Teaching does not mention gender exclusivity (ie: reserved for males only).

Many scriptural passages were not meant to be read and understood or applied in isolation.

Meaning: CONTEXT is EVERYTHING. These passages about Paul prohibiting women teaching in church need to be interpreted within socio-cultural, political, geographical contexts.

Briefly historical and social context: it had to do with the worship of Roman goddess Artemis and the dominance of women in temple worship. History also suggests women in those days were often disruptive and unruly in church service. And most were not as educated in Torah or the scriptures or much else and were mostly teaching fables and polluted doctrines. Hence, why Paul said women should keep silent and ask their husbands at home.

I encourage you to thoroughly research what was happening in that specific time frame to het a proper understanding of why Paul made this statement. And yes, Paul NOT Yeshua. If you notice, Paul said “I”, not the LORD. Pauls letters to the churches were inspired of the Holy Spirit but by no means was he meaning to say “word for word” everything is from GOD for all generations.

BS: if you are going to stick with strict understanding and application of Pauls statement, then you need to follow thru ALL. He talked about slaves. Heck, we should all go ahead and own slaves as long as treat them well. You also know that Europeans used the bible to justify slavery just as you are using this Pauls statement to justify denying women exercise of their God given gifts and talents; which by the way, gifts of God like Teaching does not mention gender exclusivity.

haekymbahd:
Women are not allowed to speak in church

1 Corinthians 14:34-35

34 The women should keep quiet in the churches, for they are not authorized to speak, but should take a secondary and subordinate place, just as the Law also says.(B)

35 But if there is anything they want to learn, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is disgraceful for a woman to talk in church [[g]for her to usurp and exercise authority over men in the church].

@OP. I understand it is your opinion. And, you have a point of our Body being the Temple. BUT, the endtimes temple has to be a physical one. It matters that you study and be sure of it because THIS issue may be a case of life and death in the near future.

Carefully read below passages. *Pay attention to Revelation 11:1-2: you can only measure a physical building that is to be trampled for 42 months, and exclude outter court given to Gentiles. It makes no sense if it's only a spiritual building for how can you measure, trample for 42 months or exclude outter (physical body) for Gentiles to trample. Does that make sense to you?


Revelation 11:1-2 I (John) was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, (by the mighty angel from Revelation Chapter 10) Go and measure (John’s act of measuring signifies God’s ownership as he surveys the temple area - but only the temple proper) the temple of God (Greek = hieron, the complete temple building) and the altar, (Greek = naos, the holy of holies, where the ark of the covenant resides) and count the worshipers there (the people who are worshipping in this temple). (The temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt during the End Times. Here, the mighty angel from Ch. 10 is instructing John to literally measure the dimensions of the rebuilt temple. One measures when they are ready to build something.)


2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. (The "outer court" is the court of the Gentiles and is probably a reference to the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa mosques, which are holy sites for Muslims. [/b]Note that it is the proximity of Islamic holy sites to the temple grounds that has for so long kept the temple from being rebuilt) They (the Gentiles, and more specifically, the followers of Antichrist) will trample on the holy city (of Jerusalem) for 42 months. During the second half of Daniel's 70th Week, which lasts 3 1/2 years, or 42 months, the followers of Antichrist will abuse and dishonor the holy city of Jerusalem by allowing worship of false gods upon the very holy site God calls His house. Specifically, once the Abomination of Desolation occurs, the rebuilt temple will become a site of idol worship for Gentiles.


[b]2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness (Antichrist) is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.

4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up (takes his seat) in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God (greater than the God of Israel).


Daniel 8:11-12

11 It (Antichrist) set itself up (magnified itself) to be as great as (equal to, or greater than) the Prince (the Commander, Jesus) of the host; it took away (removed) the daily sacrifice from him (, and the place of his sanctuary was brought low.

12 Because of rebellion, the host [of the saints, God's people] and the daily sacrifice were given over to it (Antichrist). It (Antichrist) prospered in everything it did, and truth was thrown to the ground.


Daniel 8 is the prophecy Paul was referring to in 2 Thess 2. In Daniel 8, the prophet Daniel set forth a dual prophecy of desolation in the temple. The first (near) prophecy was fulfilled by a Gentile ruler named Antiochus Epiphanies, a cruel Syrian king who in 168 B.C. plundered Jerusalem and murdered hundreds of Jews. Antiochus Epiphanies desecrated the temple by offering a pig – a dirty animal - upon the altar. Antiochus Epiphanies also had an image of himself placed in the holy of holies. The second (far) will be fulfilled by the Antichrist when he sets himself up as God, and removes the daily sacrifice in the rebuilt temple (the Abomination of Desolation).


Daniel 8:25

25 He (Antichrist) will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior (to the God of the temple). When they (the people of Israel) feel secure (there will be a false sense of security due to the Covenant of Death), he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes (Jesus). Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.


Daniel 9:27

27 He (Antichrist) will confirm (make firm) a covenant (of death) with many (Jews) and for one 'seven.' (A 7-year period) In the middle of the 'seven' (the 7-year period) he (Antichrist) will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him".


Daniel 11:31

31 "His (Antichrist) armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.


Matthew 24:15

15 "So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand--

prophecysigns.com

It is a PHYSICAL BUILDING. REVELATION 11. In fact, there's a whole organisation in Jerusalem w/ current progressing plan to establish the 3rd Temple.

GOOGLE TEMPLE INSTITUTE IN JERUSALEM WEBSITE. CHECK OUT THEIR "STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLES"


YOU, go READ your Scriptures. Don't be deceived.

SOLIDWORLD:
The Abomination that bringeth desolation might not be a physical aspect, might be spiritual.

People have been comitting abomination of their body as temple of YHVH since time of Adam & Eve.

If you smoke, get drunk, obese, tatooed and the like, YOU HAVE COMMITTED ABOMINATION THAT BRINGS DESOLATION.

THE END TIMES ABOMINATION THAT SCRIPTURES TALKS ABOUT IS A PHYSICAL BUILDING. REVELATION 11 FOR ONE ASSURES THAT. Revelation 11, talks about measuring a temple to be trampled for 42 months.

Also, currently, THERE IS A TALK TO BUILD THE 3RD TEMPLE AND IN FACT THEY HAVE MOST OF THE THINGS NEEDED TO BUILD 3RD TEMPLE. GOOGLE TEMPLE INSTITUTE IN JERUSALEM WEBSITE. CHECK OUT THEIR "STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLES". READ IT AND LET IT SINK IN.

SOLIDWORLD:
The Abomination that bringeth desolation might be spiritual. Read your Bible. Our body is the temple of G-d

Nice try comparing him to propehts of Old. DON'T GO THERE!! You need discernment for these type of matters.

The prophets of Old WERE truly CALLED, COMMISSIONED AND SENT BY YHVH. They were of pure and legitimate message and purpose from God.

The only valid point you may have from what you said is that only GOD truly know the inner hearts, workings and motivations of people; but we are warned in scriptures to watch out for those who say the right things, BUT inwardly are ravenous wolves; meaning they have "wicked hearts and intents" behind their outside suave looks/messages.

Most false teachers are not outrightedly false, but have 99% truth, and 1% poison. Unfortunately, that 1% poison is what kills you.. This is how and why rat poison works so well. SELAH.

ukahrawah:
Please be careful before you dismiss or condemn Righteousness. The things of God are mysterious! He is only keeping people on the alert. What he is doing is not different from what the prophets of old did and many of their critics mocked them.

Note: Prophet Jeremiah was a man that was scorned. Alas, people if his generation barely saw what he foretold but, eventually, they came to pass. Isaiah foretold the coming of the Son of God thousands of years before the manifestation. Here's another SHOCKER: It took Noah about 120 years to build the ark. People only gathered to mock and laugh at him. To them, he was a mad man doing what madmen do. Please leave Righteousness alone to spread the news. The things of God are mysterious. Don't become one of the mockers of Noah, Jeremiah or Isaiah. E get why.

These people are NOT filled with HOLY SPIRIT! Do NOT be found guilty if blasphemy.

GOD cannot violate HIS WORD. Scriptures say to OBEY the LAW and GOVERNMENT of the land. See Romans 13, 1 peter 2:13-17

Petulant disobedient brats is what they are.

I have warned you of Charisma News being of purveyors of falsehoods and I will keep warning you till GOD lifts this burden off me. YOU are WITHOUT excuse come Judgement day.

OLAADEGBU:
Charismanews

These people are NOT filled with HOLY SPIRIT!


GOD cannot violate HIS WORD. Scriptures say to OBEY the LAW and GOVERNMENT of the land. Romans 13, 1Peter 2:13-14

Petulant disobedient brats is what they are.

Overgrown overfed spoiled petulant brats!! They are drunk alright but NOT of RUACH HaKodesh for scriptures say to obey the law of the land.

Obey your government because GOD put them there. Disobedient to Government = Disobedient to GOD. Simple as that.

ROMANS 13:1-7
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ...