Maximus69:
Note that
KNOWLEDGE is ~The accumulation of useful information!
WISDOM is ~The PRACTICAL APPLICATION of accumulated information for lasting benefits!
The Bible was
WRITTEN by Jehovah's Witnesses!
COPIED by Jehovah's Witnesses!
TRANSLATED by Jehovah's Witnesses!
SPREAD by Jehovah's Witnesses!
While Satan have tried to stop the circulation of God's word and failed, he changed the strategy to misinterpretation of the words so that readers will only read but deluded as regards the PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS of it.
Jesus [in the Spirit] came back to inspect how what he laid is progressing and found out that Satan have overturned everything, Jesus started going from one religious group to another until he finds the group that is ready to make amendments for progress. That is why Jehovah's Witnesses began making changes both in GROUP name, doctrines and translations.
I know you won't agree with this but Jesus himself when he first visited the earth in flesh dwell with those who were ready to make AMENDMENTS against all odds! Today Jesus is working tirelessly in making his father's organization improve RAPIDLY.
So it's left for each and every individual to meditate thoroughly on what is happening in order to IDENTIFY God's organization!
But if you feel this is another misconception, then go out there and make what you're saying WORK in the midst of those adhering to it. That is if you can even find any group UNITEDLY agreeing on it!
Jehovah's Witnesses are WORKING and the whole earth can feel their movement as on happy global family of zealous peachers a teachers in one ACCORD! 1Corinthians 1:10, Philippians 2:2
So instead of TALKS TALKS TALKS, get to WORK and let us see how practical what you're saying is!
For your information, you've misconstrued the concept of WORKS but i just kept laughing at all of you when you keep saying 'it is by FAITH and not by WORKS'
Because the WORKS our brothers wrote against is not the WORKS instituted by Jesus himself but the WORKS of the LAW of Moses as in those believing they can gain God's approval through obedience to the Mosaic LAWS, and those who feels that their own good works[not based on the principles laid by Jesus] can earn them divine favour.
As for whoever is WORKING hard to maintain the teachings of Christ and going about to teach others, their is nothing motivating him other than FAITH!

Of course the Jehovah's Witness Organisation is working hard to
1. Distort the word of truth by insertions and mistranslation
2. Leading simple men/women to the lake of fire.
3. Holding a form of Religion but denying the power therein

Barristter07:


Which excuse ? Lol.

Go back and answer the question on KJV translation and let's see whose translation err . who was pierced ? Who was mourned ?

Sudden change from ME to HIM

Go and address it.



Your point exactly: Is it wrong to add the word " OTHER " for emphasis ?

You are still learning from your mentor Paul Joseph Goebbels !

Sinister!
Doesn't "other" change the narrative?
Why don't you use "other" in every other places at least we shall know that you are consistent!

Any governor can check insecurity.

Abi, what is the monthly security vote meant for?

Why these Deliberate Misinformation?
Please let's get the correct translation that is not misleading sincere believers.



I call out again:
@Maximus69 , Janosky , TATIME , Barristter07 ,

Cc: solite3 , alBHAGDADI, malvisguy212 ,

Please note the Differences in translation. Like someone is deliberately mistranslating a verse to say something else.

A few pages ago, I showed us how Zech 12:9-11: was deliberately falsified to say something else than its supposed to say. Here is another one.

The best excuse anyone of them has provided is that some other translation like RSV did the wrong translation too. Does that then make the NWT right?

Let's Check out:


JEHOVAH'S WITNESS TRANSLATION

Col 1:15-16:
15 He is the image of the invisible God,m the firstborn of all creation;n 16 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,o whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him.

Compare with

Rom11:36
36 Because from him and by him and for him are all things. To him be the glory forever. Amen.

NKJV TRANSLATION

Col 1:15-16:
"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:"

b]Compare with[/b]

Rom 11:36:
"For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things : to whom be glory for ever. Amen."

I have quoted Rom11:36 to show that the NWT is not even consistent in the use of the word all other for panta

I have the screen shot of greek-english interlinear translation of verses 15 and 16.

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/colossians/1-15.htm
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/colossians/1-16.htm

Also attached is the frequency of occurrence of the word panta.

The word pants occurs 265 times in the Greek and never once was it translated as other things

Sample usage attached:
https://biblehub.com/greek/panta_3956.htm

The various shades of panta include. Please note that none has the word other as part of the translation.

To Him All
All
And all
In Everything
All things
You everything
To Him All
But All
To you all
Everything
For all things
Every
For All
Of All
Everyone
Whosoever
Whole
To all

But just as always, the NWT has to translate the bible according to the demand of watchtower organisation Doctrine.

Who is AFRAID of the TRUTH!?

Janosky:


Ignorant rant of a lying Pharisee.
RSV is a trinitarian Bible translation.
Pls quote Zechariah 12:10(RSV) here for ALL to see.
RSV ,BBE and many other trinitarian Bible translations refuted your falsehood.

There is a problem with the poisonous, satanic doctrine called Trinity.
Do a thorough research, you will discover that many trinitarian Bible translations are NOT in accord with with Bible verses you bring here to support your falsehood.
Trinity adherents have diverse versions of the doctrine, which contradicts each other.
That post you quoted Rev 21:24-27.
vs24 &26 has fake additions in both of them.
Do a thorough research, bro.

Na fake additions in the KJV Bible you take dey support your falsehood.

What a defence!

Don't you know that a thief is a Thief!
It doesn't matter if he isn't the only one as you have claimed.

A false translation is a false translation: it doesn't matter who did the translation, it will still be a fraudulent translation. Did I not show you the Hebrew interlinear translation?

Your organisation should be apologizing for its Deliberate Deception of JWs rather than saying we aren't the only one who have committed this grave error (in your own case deliberate misinformation and misdirection).

A righteous man will apologize when he discovers his error.

Prov 28:13:
"He that covers his sins shall not prosper: but whoever confesses and forsakes them shall have mercy."

Maximus69:
BRAVO! What a beautiful conclusion!
So let me be wherever is fitting in God's arrangement after all you're NOT God nor Jesus! You're just a reader of the word applying what he read on others!

For any organisation that wouldn't have shame to edit

Zech 12:10:
"And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."

To read what they hoped it would be: they are ready to forge a lie and distort the word of truth!

Maximus69:
What a beautiful conclusion!
So let me continue to be transformed into whatever my remaining 8,000,000+ brothers and sisters are also being transformed into, so that our END could be just as it was WRITTEN. Either 2Corinthians 11:14-15 or Revelations 7:13-14 compared to Daniel 12:10
Jesus actually said the born agains WILL BE GIVEN clean white robes but here it is written that these one are WASHING their own DIRTY robes!
Don't let presumption blindfold you, those NOT invited to heaven but keeps presuming and agitating that it belongs to them will also be DESTROYED! Matthew 22:11-13

144000÷8000000= 1.8% if ALL of you are born again

But this is what the Scriptures say (even though I know you wouldn't read it)

Rev 7:9-17:
"After this I beheld, and, see, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes , and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sits on the throne, and to the Lamb. And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and might, be to our God for ever and ever. Amen. And one of the elders answered, saying to me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and from where came they? And I said to him, Sir, you know. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sits on the throne shall dwell among them. They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. For the Lamb which is in the middle of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them to living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes."

As you can see, you aren't part of this either!

Maximus69:
Of course!
And they were so calm and full of RESTRAINT when dealing with Jesus and when dealing with the Apostles [Act 5:33] because Satan was able to produce that part of the fruitage of God's holy spirit! Galatians 5:23

But since you are certainly not one of the 144,000 these Scripture does not apply to you

Rom 8:9,11:
"But you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. … But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwells in you."

Eph 4:5:
"One Lord, one faith, one baptism,"

1Cor 12:13:
"For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body , whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."


If the Scriptures doesn't apply to you, we know who you are
2Cor 11:14-15:
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

Maximus69:
That is why the FRUIT of the SPIRIT was emphasised @ Galatians 5:22-23
So that those NOT bearing such FRUIT should think twise before concluding that they're for Jesus simply out of presumption nurtured by the feeling of SIGNS! Matthew 7:21-23

The fruit of the Holy Spirit is different from false humility and false righteousness. It is the outward living that the indwelling Holy Spirit produce produce in a person who has been sealed by the Holy Spirit.

Don't forget that the Pharisees were experts in this kind of self Righteousness!

alBHAGDADI:


This is a strong punch.

They don't have the spirit of Christ, yet they claim to the true Christians just like the early Christians.

I honestly don't understand how people can self invent lies to conform with their believes. Can you see how conveniently they ignored discussing Zechariah 12:10

On that Scripture alone ALL they preach and teach falls down like a pack of cards. Only God knows how many deliberate lies and mistranslations are in their NWT.

Maximus69:
Don't worry yourself too much over this.
Nebuchadnezzar's kingdom is actually what the head of gold depicts!

But the actual fact is that the worldly governments didn't start from Babylon [Nebuchadnezzar's government], so how come the dream started with his kingdom as the head of gold?
Well, the other two kingdoms prior to Babylonian domination [Egypt and Assyria 'Southern Iran'] weren't organized to have what Satan is enforcing throughout the earth today called the divide and rule style or Democracy!
None of them have designated lower rulers under their jurisdiction like Senators and Reps CHOSEN from different races or tribes stationed in one place!
None of them tried to unite all those under them like Nebuchadnezzar did through false religious means[National Anthem]!
So this Democracy that people globally are clamoring for was initiated by King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon, but gradually the overall power he had at first started diminishing as the other kingdoms following his steps were giving more preference to what the people under them demands, that is why by the time it got to the feet it was revealed to Daniel that the Iron[rulers] and the clay[subjects] will both have a say in their government later! That is what led humans to this system called Democracy[government of the people, by the people and for the people] But despite both having a say, the government will still continue to dictate what will be, that is why you're seeing people protesting using placards against the government they elected themselves!
For your information,
¤ Nebuchadnezzar was 6 feet tall!
¤ The idol he asked people to bow to was 60 feet tall!
¤ His cabinet was 600 in total!
That is why anyone still believing in worldly governments is said to be having the number 666!
I know how you feel when thinking that people will be tormented inside fire FOREVER and the feeling of being special due to signs and wonders you think you've performed but try to humble yourself for knowledge that gives no room for self pride!

Please check the bolded!

Dan 2:37-38: "
You, O king, are a king of kings : for the God of heaven has given you a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory. And wherever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven has he given into your hand, and has made you ruler over them all.
You are this head of gold."

Maximus69:
Says you Sir. What God's son said is that IT IS BY THEIR FRUIT and the fruit i have born has convinced many that the God of the Bible is the one using me!
It is your own definition that centers only on spectacular signs, sincere and honesthearted individuals have knelt before me begging me to PRAY for them while i tell them that they can be better than me in speaking consolingly to depressed souls, if they humble themselves to learn what i have spoken that touched their hearts! They sensed the power of God's holy spirit speaking through me!

Rom 8:9: "But you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."

OkCornel:


If you check your profile (i.e. shadeyinka) the reason for the ban and the duration of the ban would be stated there...

Perhaps you pasted links on this thread or other ones... I got banned for something similar...

Antispam bots don't give reasons. And I didn't copy from one thread to another. It seems not to just like me responding to a particular post of maximus69

alBHAGDADI:


It's a waste of time arguing with those heretics. Arguing about prophecies and the word of God in it's entirety with them is a total waste of time.

They are not born again and therefore lack the Spirit of God. They have confessed times without number that they are natural men and not spiritual men. So, how come you expect them to understand the Bible which is the word of God which is spirit?

Jesus speaking....

John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


They are natural men, how do you expect then to receive the words of Jesus which is spirit and can only be spiritually discerned by someone with the spirit of God?

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

They think they can study the Bible and understand it without having the Holy Spirit, but that's a lie. Look at that Ethiopian Eunuch who was reading the scroll but couldn't understand it. He couldn't because he didn't have the spirit of God to be able to understand the word of God which is spirit. It took Philip, a spirit-filled man, to explain it to him. And because he was willing to learn, he understood and accepted Jesus.

This ones don't want to learn towards accepting the spirit which will enable them receive the things of the spirit. So, if you continue arguing about the prophecies of Daniel and Revelations, you will only be wasting your tine because they can't receive it unless they first receive the spirit which gave those prophecies

I perfectly agree with you.
You ask them a question, they avoid it and load you with their preconceived ideas. It seams they don't even read what is presented before them.

Maximus69:
I didn't notice this points in your write-up!
So let's just conclude that you and your folks are exited about signs and wonders but you can't settle for any standard[Matthew 7:21-23] therefore you will agree with all sort of norms and traditions just for the sake of the SIGNS you them perform IN JESUS NAME! Isaiah 57:20
Jehovah's Witnesses globally have settled for a unique standard and we're not ready to share with you any of the SIGNS happening in our midst, because it is STRICTLY for those having faith,that is why we're not tossed about with all kinds of teachings [Hebrew 10:38] unlike you who worships with ECWA but your heart is not settled for any of their standards as you're exited about those who usually drank tea with the lord in their living rooms!

My point is if God has never used you by His Spirit, then, you either
1. Don't know Him and He doesn't know you OR
2. Your faith in Him and His ability is zero
3. You are not sealed by His Spirit

Jozzy4:


I read your response to barrister and see you don't even have a clue what you are talking about. If you do, identifying the personality should not be hard . but he present evidence for his own point using Daniel 7:3 and 23 .

My own is since you are not ready to identify the personality , that means we can't use the Rev 20:10 . Let's see Revelation 20:14 ... Will death and Grave be burning in fire or cease to exist ?

Sorry, before I entertain this, answer my query of Zechariah 12:10

Maximus69:
So what happens to the promise of GREATER WORKS? John 14:12

In adequate faith!

Barristter07:


Been Born again like I said is to eventually have the hope of becoming a spirit Being who dwells in heaven.

What is born of Spirit is ?? SPIRIT . just like God

If you had answered my question, we will not be going through your pre-recorded script.
If what is born of the spirit is invisible like God, when did the apostles get born again and did they become spirits?
Jesus of course wasn't saying on is born again after dying was he?

Barristter07:

This is why Peter referred to them as " partakers of DIVINE Nature " 2Pet 1:4

But is it only born again that will be saved ?

No, not everyone will become a Spirit - Psalm 37:29 . some have the hope of living forever On earth

If you had answered the question: who was Peter speaking to?
You'll not be repeating your rehearsal.

Rev 7:9-11:
"After this I beheld, and, see, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sits on the throne, and to the Lamb. And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,"

1. Where were these great multitude? Heaven or Earth?
2. Where is the Throne of God? Heaven or Earth?

Barristter07:

Revelation 21:3,4 calls them " MANKIND " not Spirits.

Any objection ?

Rev 21:2-4:
"And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

Did I call them spirits?

Heb 8:1: "Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;"

Rev 4:2: "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."

Rev 16:17: "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done."

Rev 20:11: "And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them."

Please answer the above Question!

Barristter07:


I doubt if you read responses before you reply, maybe if you do, you need to learn to process words . I didn't define a spirit , I told you why tlyour question was baseless . HUMAN SPIRIT is not a Personality! So its fruitless asking if it's living or dead .




I said " Human Spirit " . Spirit can mean.different things depending on its usage.
Spirit of the world doesnt mean the world or planet earth has a spirit , .. Usage please !

Note the @bolded, we shall need it later.

Barristter07:

" Everything on dry land that had the the breath of the spirit of life in its nostrils died " - Genesis 7:22

Animals have the breath of life in their nostrils too . U can keep your food for thought now

I said did God breath the breath of life into animals too?
Isn't that just saying that everything that is alive died?

Barristter07:

The Breath of life which powers its breathing.
I maintain it's not a personality!

Barristter07:

Soul = a person . Joshua killed some souls with sword in the Bible.
Body = that which holds the persons vital organs

Spirit= The spirit of life that powers it breathing

Then what did Jesus mean when He said:

Mat 10:28: "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

Jesus seem to be saying that as the body has life, so the soul has life. The best a human being can do is to kill the body BUT God can after killing the body put the the soul in hell.

Or what's the difference between what God can do and what a man can do?

Barristter07:


A QUESTION

Jesus spirit returned to the Father the day he died, Does that mean its Jesus himself that return to heaven ? Luke 23:46

To help us detect if spirit of man is the person .

Luk 23:46:
"And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into your hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

Jesus didn't go to heaven (either physically or Spiritually) He was only saying that He entrust his spirit to Gods care (I am sure you aren't looking at the literal hands of God).

1Pet 3:19: "By which also he went and preached to the spirits in prison;"

1Pet 4:6: "For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit."

Jesus went to preach to the spirit that were dead.

Please how come?
The dead are not supposed to be conscious!

Barristter07:

You need to calm down. I made the statement that the Book of Daniel compared beasts with world government . You should ask me for reference NOT you producing a reference that doesn't tally with my submission.

Here was the premise that formed the basis of my reference to Daniel .



Which is supported by Daniel 7: 3, 23

The Beasts were explained as representing world kingdoms or Government

The anti spam bots have banned my main Monika shadeyinka!
I don't know why!

I think it doesn't change anything. I was just curious if Nebuchadnezzar is a person and he is the head of Gold, would the other part of the bodies represents kings who will rule kingdoms or not.?

Tayeni:
You will admit there is an element of hubris in claiming to know you know God and the "non physical" realm he operates at and can communicate on that level . Same goes for athiests that claim to know for a fact that there is no God. As for every law failing completely....Na you sabi that one since you claim to know....i prefer to live by the laws and knowledge im certain of and expanding from there as the body of knowledge expands.....

NB....there are sensors on robots and devices nowadays that percieve what even humans cant percieve....so dont even go there. And the technology will only improve beyond what you or i can imagine.

Experience is the best teacher they say!

Let Atheists hold on to their incomplete knowledge

You didn't get me:
A robot cannot out perform its given sensors even with the most advanced AI

LordReed:


In your head.

Which is your permanent reality!

LordReed:


Keep dreaming.

It is settled!

LordReed:


In your dreams.

Which is irrevocably your permanent reality!

Tayeni:
AI is not there yet...but dont underestimate what we can achieve....It might not be in our lifetime....but it will happen.

Back to what the op was trying to say. The two situations are different in the most crucial aspect. In that, Man has not known God in the most incontrovertible way possible. Maybe he hasnt shown himself for reasons known to him alone or we are incapable of knowing because of our limitations..maybe we havent reached that point in our evolution to know or process his essence even if revealed....i dont know. But where i stand is that: Man should stop the self deception of claiming they knowing God, his realm or even existence that intimately. Because the Nswers given by the holy books dont cut it anymore. Maybe they did for ancient men.But they are loosing relevance for the forward looking man.

Have you ever wondered and consider that AI (no matter how advanced) can never exceed the capability of the sensors attached?
I guess your eyes are opened and you know everything including the fact that God doesn't exist. I don't claim that I know everything. I know only the things God has given me capacity to know and still growing everyday.

By the time you do your infinite regression back to eternity, you'll discover that every law and rule fail completely. What started the universe operates on non-physical rules. Unfortunately, with Physical rules and laws, mortal men who know everything claim God isn't real.

What else can I say!

LordReed:


That's all I need the rest is just story.

A Story that silenced you!

LordReed:


See super diversion. The questions I asked were quite simple all this rigmarole is quite unnecessary. Can they distinguish between the heat signature of an animal and a human?

I have told you.
What other answer you you want?

shadeyinka5:

Of course
.
That's why they would ask for something extraordinarily spectacular to believe they have a creator.

Their normal questions would be:
If humans are real,
1. How many Terabytes of memory powers their CPU
2. Are humans battery powered or they are plugged to the mains?
3. If humans are real, how come no one has seen them?

Now, when you mention that humans leave both heat and auditory signatures, their arguments would be like
1. It has been proven that brute animals and machines also give heat signatures!
2. We have tried to decode the machine language used by humans. All we find is random noise signatures. Our Scientists have analysed the voices, it doesn't conform to binary arithmetic.
3. If humans truly exist, let them come and show themselves!

What does of course mean?

LordReed:


Is the heat signature from a lightning bulb the same as that of a human? If they detect the heat signature of animal they won't be able to tell it apart from that of a human?

Of course.
That's why they would ask for something extraordinarily spectacular to believe they have a creator.

Their normal questions would be:
If humans are real,
1. How many Terabytes of memory powers their CPU
2. Are humans battery powered or they are plugged to the mains?
3. If humans are real, how come no one has seen them?

Now, when you mention that humans leave both heat and auditory signatures, their arguments would be like
1. It has been proven that brute animals and machines also give heat signatures!
2. We have tried to decode the machine language used by humans. All we find is random noise signatures. Our Scientists have analysed the voices, it doesn't conform to binary arithmetic.
3. If humans truly exist, let them come and show themselves!

Tayeni:
Buddy, the arguement is.....robots or AI might reach a higher consciousness and discover themselves and "discover humans" .....meaning they will be able to know for a fact through all modes of perception they have been programmed with that humans exist...before seeing themselves as superior.

What some are saying is that....atleast there will be a mutual recognition of each other's existence : man and machine(AI)....something God has not done with humans hence the growing of doubts and atheism and agnosticism.

In other words ...God has not shown himself to man through the strongest sensors and processors he has supposedly installed us with.

Sorry!
Some Human beings are BLIND. This doesn't confer any lower intelligence to them. There is no AI that can be compared to man's IQ. Hence, part of their attributes does not include direct visual perception. Yes very intelligent and self aware.

Your @Bolded couldn't have been more wrong.

Man can touch and have all visual, auditory, electronic ...perception of his robot BUT the Robot is limited by his senses which disallows direct visual and direct auditory perception of humans.

LordReed:


Will they be able to distinguish the different heat signatures and sounds they detect? Will they know which ones are human or not?

Heat signature is heat signature!
It simply means they can detect the temperature difference in a particular space by which they can infer a presence of a thing or personality.

LordReed:


Twist what? I am not seeing what you are objecting to if you believe they can detect humans by heat and sound. They are detecting humans simple, what is the not necessarily inside it again?

If you don't understand simple English, detecting heat signatures or sound sound doesn't imply a direct remote perception of the humans who give off his heat or sound signatures.

Tayeni:
Its not farfetched ti think robots will be able to see and process images.....technology of image capturing exists(camera)...the ability for image recognition already exists....facial recognition, google's reverse image search etc

Every robot is given attributes that the builder decides! If the builder likes, the robot would be self propelling and if he likes, he makes the robot immobile.

The fact that higher technologies exist does not matter!