Maximus69:

If after death people are STILL ALIVE then i suppose Satan was NEVER a LIAR after all people aren't dying for real as he said! Genesis 3:4
Hmmm,if the wages of sin is not DEATH[Romans 6:23] that means Adam and Eve are STILL ALIVE somewhere!
Well then, are they enjoying or been tormented now?
i wonder who then is the real LIAR between God and Satan! John 8:44

Since you think the time of eternity is operated by the earth timings of 24 hours making a day, I couldn't be more surprised at you. Let me give you a little Physics lecture.

Time is s measure of intervals between PHYSICAL events
In the spiritual, time doesn't exist for there are no Physical event with which to mark time.

Will you take up the challenge if we look up CLOSELY

Gen 2:17: "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

God cannot Lie!
In the bible, is it only Physical death that exist?

Eph 2:1-3:
"And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others."

Rom 7:9-10:
"For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death."

Can you please explain (from the depths of your usually complex theology) how the living can yet be dead?

Maximus69:
You only need to calm down and follow the RULES of the forum!
This forum is an initiative of Seun[an atheist] and there are conditions that each participants must strictly hold onto.
A true Christian shouldn't be barred from social media that's meant for everyone to share their views or make simple presentations of their beliefs.
But if you've been barred for more than four times within just one day, then it means you're not doing thing according to the order.
Jesus said he will deny 'workers of inequity' or 'workers of lawlessness' Matthew 7:23
I wish you can stay and maintain orderliness before these unbelievers so that your fine conduct can bring praise to the name of Jehovah, the God of ORDERLINESS! 1Peter 2:12

I think you should point out the rules broken!
Satan is a liar!

Are you orderly?

THE LAST PART OF MY RESPONSES!

Maximus69
Just like the thief Jesus gave his word as a promised that he will be in Paradise, the other thief insisted on the signs and wonders when they're getting the full punishment for their acts but there is time for everything! Matthew 12:39, 16:4 compared to Ecclesiastes 3:1
So while one put his faith in Jesus, the other kept demanding for miracles. Jesus only attended to the one who aknowledge him as the promised King despite the pains both himself and Jesus were experiencing! Luke 23:42

Satan is the one behind all these signs and wonders today! They will only concentrate on those signs but there will be no fruit of God's holy spirit in them as they can't unite people from different races, rather their followers will still be fight and killing one another due to RACISM! Revelations 16:13-14
That is why Jesus said many in our own time will think they're on his side but he will tell them 'we're not on the same page' Matthew 7:21-23

Signs and wonders have never being a part of worship. They validate that you have been sent and commission by God.

If your first paragraph were true, the disciples will loose all abilities of healing and deliverance. They would just be empty vessels preaching the word of Christ without His backing.

Your conclusion @bolded that satan is behind every miracle and deliverance today. I can't help but marvel at your level of imprisonment. I will answer you with two scriptures.

Mat 12:25-29,31:
"And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges. But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man and then he will spoil his house. … Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."

The problem is that you cannot even find a single scripture to justify that miracles have ended. It betrays the fact that your"form of godliness is self inspired"!

Luk 10:9-10:
"And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you. But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say,"

But you are quick to quote the second part. "...and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same.."

Who is fooling who?

Maximus69
God's promises about Paradise centers on how all such misappropriate issues will be PERMANENTLY resolved.
So when Jesus came to PREACH [make presentations of all the good tidings] most of his listeners liked to ask him thought provoking question about how all these evil things began. John 9:2
That is why he must TEACH [inculcate in them] all the virtues of his heavenly father whom Satan's act have tainted his good name amongst humans! Matthew 6:9
The miracles [signs and wonders] is for two main reasons:
(1) To help impress in the hearts of all his listeners that God [his father] can surely restore everything back to normal.
(2) To prove that Jesus is the promised King under whose rule everything will become perfect just like in Eden.
So before his coming and when he was going back to heaven, there were different religious sects claiming to be worshipers of the God of Abraham in Israel.
Gentiles who wanted to join God's people in pure worship needed to know that God is no more using any sect except only Jesus' group. Moreover Satan wanted to corrupt the new formed group with his corrupt influence! That is why there must be signs and wonders as approval of the Apostles and those with them from the God of Israel whose fame has gone both far and near.
Today the Bible is complete so there is NO need for any signs to prove anything since everyone can read the messages of Jesus group in any part of the earth. Even the Quran quoted that there is a book in the hands of the Jews that needed to be studied for anyone who wants to have good standing with the true God so there is no excuse for anyone now. Quran 10:94-95 compared to Romans 1:20
That is why the signs and wonders is no more part of pure worship [/b]in our time but LOVE for God and neighbours demonstrated by our virtuous deeds as evidence of our FAITH! 1Corinthians 13

The way you bring in personal interpretation into clearly stated scripture is amazing. [b]We now have the bible hence signs disappeared!!!! ...just listen to yourself.

If you claim miracles have ceased happening, would you please give us a date? For after Jesus, the disciples were still doing miracles...miracles were not even exclusive to the apostles.
Here is a man not even part of the disciples or the apostles doing what faith in Christ alone can do.

Mar 9:38-40: "
And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbade him, because he followeth not us. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part."

I am so surprised you could bring in the Qur'an to validate the Bible! Is Allah the same as Yahweh? Does Mohammed even know the identity of the spirit that decieved him?

Continuation:

Maximus69
God never intended that man should get sick, grow old or die, neither was there any plans to start casting out demons from his earthly children. All of these are circumstantial because if Adam did not succumb to the rebellious act in Eden, Adam's children wouldn't have needed healing of any sort, neither do we need Jesus here on earth for any reason whatsoever!
After Adam and Eve have disobeyed God, they brought upon all their progenies different manner of infirmities ranging from deformity of their body parts, malfunctioning of their inner system and the CHANCE for Satan and other rebellious angels to invade their habitation[earth]

And the Son of man came for this purpose.

1Jn 3:8: "He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil."
Even before the commencement of paradise, Jesus said

Luk 10:19: "Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you."

Maximus69:
Well since there are hundreds of thousands of religious groups[organizations] claiming Christian with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
I will just remain in my own until Jesus comes to settle the issue after all there are millions of demons at work causing the differences in beliefs, so my case is just a familiar one!

And most of them inspite of the differing doctrines will enter paradise. But you will discover you've been 419'd when you die!
Just imagine after death to discover that you are still alive. Maybe then you will remember how you have been misled!

Maximus69:
@shadeyinka,
I want you to meditate on how we met before we began chatting!
You were ARGUING vehemently against the beliefs of ANOTHER religious group on NL whereas even those with whom you claim to believe the same book and calling yourselves born again still contradict one another fiercely.
I called your attention with the aim of telling you what Jesus said about arguing with those who will not welcome our presentations. You assumed we're on the same page and i said NO! because if we're truly on the same page you won't be arguing with those who don't seem to notice an atom of virtue in your presentation.
You noticed that i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and you wanted to start arguing with me, but i maturely told you there is no need for arguments rather we only need to make simple presentations of our beliefs.
Now you're fiercely saying all sort of things simply because i have a different religious belief and adding that since i don't perform signs i must be demonic.
Whereas there are thousands of religious groups claiming Christians out there who neither perform nor claim to perform any signs.
I wonder why you're so particular about my own organization not performing signs for you!

Oh!
Christians can argue and debate with each other in love. Haven't you seen a fierce game before?
But
When I see an impostor, I expose all their cover. That's what I am doing: exposing your cover. Yours is more than a difference in Doctrine: yours is like a WOLF dressed in the skin of a LAMB. I honestly don't have any apology for that.

Both of us know that we aren't of the same family. I asked you, are you Born Again? Did you give any straight forward answer?

NOTE:
There is something in your earlier post that is flagging my response. I've just been banned again.

But I will surely post my responses


Do every Christian perform signs and wonders?
No!
But every TRUE Christian believe in them. There problem isn't to deny it but lack of adequate faith to perform. In your case, it's a total denial!