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Well,there was a CBN Advertorial in 1 of d Newspapers in febuary where a handfull of the wondabanks were listed starting from Nospecto & dat all victims should submit photocopies of their slips/deposit slips on or b4 11th of march 2 a particular address.I think CBN formd a committe 4 dis purpose.Nobody is still sure what CBN is up2 as per that move cos it's a month now & we are yet 2 get any form of feedback on d issue. that's d bit i know.i hope this helps. However pls if anybody out there has any new or better info on this issue make the person post the thread with immediate alacrity. Thanks

Thanks DANTECMU,there's a lot of sense from ur post,especially 4 d fact that u are speaking frm experience. I thank God also 4 giving me d wisdom as well. i appreciate u all. Cheers

E be like say this vicjustice & funkybaby dig each other o.Why don't u both just hook up,u guyz would make a gud couple.LoL. Anyway u guyz do not need 2 have any rancor over this issue.I sincerely appreciate every single contribution from everybody here.u all have been of immerse help 2 me.if only u know, I would have strayed totaly & end up walking in the dark like a blind man. Thank you all, seun inclusive.My decision still stands Gidigba. Uk student visa ciao.

Dantecmu:
Mr shimfe. Mr shimfe. Mr shimfe, How many times did i call you three times, Why do you want to mess yourself up, You are getting everything all wrong its obvious what u want to do, now draw your ears and listen to me don't even think about it , Irish embassy wont in the first place give you more than a three months single entry visa and even if you go and come back you are given another three months single entry visa after which you are entitled to a 1 year multiple entry visa, I know all your intrested in is getting the first three months and eloping with your wife and kids, now the question is this why do you want to punish that woman, sending her to ireland to be an illegal immigrant don't even think about it don't even try it you don't know what you might be getting yourself into. MEN if Na Young boy wan run then its understandable not a married woman with a child, You claim you not being able to school abroad as the source of your wanting to take this decision, are there no student visas why don't you do things the right way with your child, i can authoritatively tell you that you would regret it, no shaking i have being to ireland i have being to the UK, am back in Nigeria even if u wan run why not run in the UK where u have more blacks and you do the running first and then after 15 years of suffering and u finally get your papers if you do then you send for your wife and kid , anyways a word is enough for the wise. i i know what am talking about when i mean i know i know. So u better be carefull what you think about so u don't mess your life up cus that is what u want to do,

ciao

@Dantecmu,
Thanks for your contribution & advice .I have carefully wieghed all the options & see reasons with you.Vicjustice did justice in educating me so far for to be wise enough to take the right decision on this . I appreciate you Ariston & funkybaby.You guys were very helpful as well.
I have decided not to go there illigally. I'm gonna get a student visa instead to Uk for my masters & i believe from there on i'll take it slow & steady.

Thank you all & thank You seun,This forum has changed peoples lives for the better .Very educative as well.I am more enlightened now & very exposed as it is.

Pls lets keep up the brotherly Luv. ONE LOVE

@vicjustice you 've been so helpful & generous with all information given.i see d risk in being an asylum seeker & as such would very much prefer 2 go legit wit one of the steps which is step1 like u also pointed. How ever could u post the website where i can 2 read about all d steps,requirements& documents needed.i'm sure there should be guidance note that will give all the info i need. One question pls. Do u currently live in Dublin?since u knw so much about the country. I'd really like 2 meet u one of these days when u show Niaja again. Cheers

Ariston:
Hello Sirs

Couldnt help noticing the discourse and think that while the originator of the topic can be excused for his fatherly concern over the well-being of his child,You Sir(Vicjustice) havent warned him as rigorously as you should about the near insurmountable task of gaining asylum in Ireland,the possible scenarios are as follows

http://www.metroeireann.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=943&Itemid=50
http://www.metroeireann.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=844&Itemid=50

More notably this quote from the very new Immigration bill for Ireland

A total of 3,985 asylum applications were received in 2007 which represents the lowest annual total since 1997 and is a decrease of 66% on the 2002 figure. "This reduction results from the implementation of strategies aimed at combating, across the spectrum, abuses of the asylum process where 90% of asylum applications are unfounded. This Bill will underpin that strategy by ensuring more efficient and streamlined processing and removals arrangements."

Among the innovative features of the Bill are provisions to prevent the misuse of the judicial process by a foreign national solely for the purposes of frustrating their removal from the State.

http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/Launch_of_new_Immigration_Bill

Simply,they may make entry,they might even start the asylum seeking process but the odds are that they will be sent to a deportation centre and summarily deported.You Sir(shimfe)should weigh your options with great care,as an adult you cannot be too careful about your sons life,this may just be a gamble too costly.Think about it.

@Ariston
I appreciate you for this Key information. So i ask you both What other legal options do i have? Can they stay there & still get al the benefits with a 2years Visitiation visa incase they renew thier visa after the expiration of the first one.
What are the processes & requirements to get a resident permit or work permit then .I am willing to try anything Legit as long as it cool.

So are you saying caqtegorically that my earlier move foer them to seek asylum is not worth the risk going by the current info in your post? What are my chances?

Hi Vicjustice,

Thaks for all you contributions & advice,but need you to check your email for a very crucial & important question i need you to answer & profer likely options & solutions to.,pls i will be expectig your reply via same medium.
Hope to hear soonest
Cheers

Also want to know if someone with a visiiting visa enjoys freedom & these benefits even if the visa eventually expires & the visitor refuses to come home .

@vicjustice

So by all Standards Dublin is the safe haven here amongst all others. abi?

Thanks

Ok but i need to know if an illegal immigrant enjoy same benefits like the asylum seekers.esspecially if a woman with a baby who is not an IBC & a woman with an IBC lives there .?
i am yet to get detailed reply from your mail box.

Thanks so muc vijustice.Pls what is the difference btw Asylum seekers & illegal immigrants? Are you saying they enjoy freedom of movement within the republic & those benefits you mentioned? Do you hav an idea of how long it takes them to gain legal status?
Also really need to know if my move to relocate them alone is wise.because from what you said above ,i think this is exactly what i need for my son to grow up i that enviroment .
Check your mail box i sent you a more detailed mail for more of you assistance
Thanks man.

[b]* It's more or less frequently raining in Ireland: temperate maritime; modified by North Atlantic Current; mild winters, cool summers; consistently humid; overcast about half the time.
Ireland and the UK have their hands full and tight with immigrants; both documented and undocumented, students and families, asylum seekers and naturalised dwellers.
Though there are opportunities in these two countries, and while Ireland may be appealing because of its rich and generous social welfare programmes, if you're a student, you're only like any other African or Asia students once in Ireland because, the education system (for those who are already in the state) is come-one-come-all: so, doing your education here does not guarantee you anything enviable afterall, asylum seekers and undocumented immigrants from African and Asia do attend same schools. But once you're permitted to work in Ireland, believe me, they pay more than most big name countries in the world, not even the USA nor the UK can compete with Ireland in minimum wages.
Irish people are very nice but extremely lazy, they enjoy the extravagant "social welfare" system here which makes them unwilling to work: they go to the post office every friday to collect free Social, Unemployment, Disability, Sick, or House Allowance "benefit" which is usally 246 Euro ($354) per week: There are also child benefits for every single child in Ireland irrespective of the parent/s status; too many Nigerian women are single parents in Ireland.
There use to be immigration programmes schemes organised by the Irish government in poor Asian countries like Bangladesh China and the Philippines, this was designed to import working immigrants to the benefit of the Irish economy which has boosted remarkably in recent years, in fact, it's rated the 2nd best in the word after Luxembourg. This programme came to a halt when it became dawn that the EU would expand by 10 additional countries mainly from East Europe with feeble economies, and their citizens would flock into Ireland sooner or later.
Currently, there are about six hundred thousand Polish nationals in Ireland alone which means, one in four people you see in Ireland is Polish; thus making things complicated for the government to consider giving documents to Asylum seekers: the Irish authority believes that they have more than enough immigrants.
In the past, there used to be an immigration law that says whoever is born in Ireland (irrespective of the parents immigration status) is automatically an Irish Born Citizen (IBC), and their mothers are given residence status of PIBC (Parents of Irish Born Citizen) residence status known as the Stamp4 recidence card. until December 2004 after Poland and other poor countries joined the European Union. There is seldom border control between the UK and the Republic of Ireland, this made it easy for undocumented pregnant women in the UK to enter the country and give birth to Irish Citizens. Many people, both single and married African women forced themselves pregnant without husbands or regular boyfriends. . . Things became funny when the single mothers would receive payments of up to 5000 Euro from Nigerian men who would claim to be the arriving fathers of the IBCs in order to get the PIBC status. The Irish authority have been fooled in thousands of such frauds, until they introduced the DNA test into immigration which eventually led to the arrest and fleeing of many men who have already benefited from the IBC fraud.
Many Nigerian women that got pregnant and came to Ireland to give brith are now facing frustration in Ireland with their kid/s because the IBC law was amended before they could give birth. They now live in asylum seekers hostels nationwide with uncertain futures. Some have been deported and many more have been served deportation letters
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so much Vicjustice. your thread above was very educative & informative for me.But i will still need your sincere advice on the current status of illegall immigrants there now.

It was actually your post & opinion i was really seeking when i initiated this subject, Actually the relocation is for my wife & 1 year old son. Mu greatest regret in life is that i did not school abroad.Ofcourse this in so fault of mine ,but i 've vowed not to let myson be a victim of such regret. Now i know there as an illegal immigrant could be risky,but my wife & i have actually discussed it & we are willing to take a chance all because of a good education for my boy.I believe with time she& the boy will get a resident/migrant status.

We intend to apply 1st for the 6 months visitation in which they will come back to Niaja ofcorse & reapply for the 2yrs visa b4 the final relocation. pls profer the best way or best immigrant scheme we can apply for to be legal residents . i am really desperate about this & this must happen this year as a similer plan last year failed when we applied for uk visa (visitation)

Pls i need information about Dublin in Irland,websites,education system,citizeship,thier economy status,policies on immigration.A good frietold me it's a better alternative country to Uk to live in.Pls any Nairalander with useful information on this should pls do the needful. Expecting to read from you guys,Especially Nairalanders living & working in Dublin.

Cheers

Interesting stuff.Hope this is not anoda SCAM! I'm intrested but let me ask you this first, WHAT'S IN IT FOR YOU?

Happily married but not s, y,