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linearity:
It’s more stupid, rubbish and hypocritical that you condemning people who are adopting babies have not adopted even one.

Your hatred for the people adopting these babies have blinded you to the plights and needs of these babies you pretending you love, making you to stand in their way to care, love, shelter, etc like the Scribes & Pharisees standing in the gates of heaven, not going in themselves and preventing others from going in.

It is your religious type, who put themselves above all others like the Scribes and Pharisees that Jesus rebuked and cursed....Woe on to thee Scribes and Pharisees!

Stop directing the argument to religious leaders and Pharisee.
Una too like to dodge simple questions.
Why are gay people needing to adopt children?

In as much as adoption is cool, gay and gay marriage just show we humans are trying to explore beyond our reach. And in such scenario, we started doing some strange stuffs

kilonshele101:
Do you have a functional brain at all?

While trying to sound intelligent, you ended sounding super dumb.
You made a totally wrong assertion up there, saying that when something is accepted by the majority then it's morally right. I was pointing to you that there's no universal objective morality, moral terms are not universal, they are more of personal judgments than public common agreements, moral is more of individual judgment than societal judgment. Though our society, culture and religion shapes us in making our individual judgment.

The correct term to use in your assertion should be "Norms" or "normality" coz norms are the unwritten laws that is determined by the common behavior and judgment of the society.

Society determines the norms.
Individual determines the moral.

You can use the societal norms to judge and determine if something is normal or abnormal
Eg Having two heads is abnormal on earth because most of us have one head. Being a gay is abnormal in Nigeria coz most of us are straight

But You can't use your own morality as a standard to judge other people's morality because there is no universal objective morality.
What is morally right to you might be moral wrong to others because our individual judgement is different. Eg speaking with a very low voice is morally wrong to me because I believe if you're speaking with a low voice, you are certainly backbiting. But speaking with a very low voice is morally right to my sister because she hates drawing attention to herself.

Being a gay might be morally wrong to you because you see it as disgusting, but that doesn't make being a gay universally wrong, because an homosexual sees it as a means to express his sexual orientation and a means to satisfy his biological urge, hence being a gay is not wrong to him.

I repeat, you can't judge other people's morality with your own moral judgment. Morality is personal. Let that sink into your skull

"Individual determines the moral"
The above statement is too shallow and brainless, ask a neighbor beside you so that it wouldn't seem like I am trying to abuse you

Can you point out any part of my quote where I talked about individual perspective to morality? Can you also point out the part of my comment where I said morality is exclusive and objectively made by humans?

In fact you don't read at all, my first statement boldly stated that morality is a controversial topic and there are still divergent views if morality exceed humanity but your eye were not made to see nor were your brain made to remember any of those things that could stand in your vein opinions.

Also stop putting "you"(argumentum ad hominem) as a tactics to direct or deliver your lame point to, I started this discussion describing society, it was you who brought "individual" word into the discussion. My original statement talked about morality in societal perspective as most people in such vicinity being happy and ok with such behaviors. Take for example Child marriage ain't common in the west or east due to the kind of morality practiced my majority of the people in such location, the gap is too wide for anyone to make it his/her personal preference to marry a girl of like 12/13. But in the north, it is acceptable to marry in fact 11/10 years old girl.

There is no objective universal morality does not mean we don't have a compass for morality, every society choose their unit of measurement for morality, some according to a supreme being, some according agreement, some according to the government and some according to general acceptable standard.

If you can't understand this simple analogy then I can help you.

HuntSon:
What is the standard of morality?? The majority??

It being black doesn't make the majority happy, should it then be considered wrong?? Listen to yourselves! You're actually saying anything that's not of the majority shouldn't be acknowledged or respected, really??

Later you'll cry about Racism!

out of all I typed, so this is the little you could pick out? and where did you find that majority don't like black people?? and if that was the case that majority of humanity didn't like blacks, then we wouldn't be on the surface of the planet currently, during time of slave trade, we would be wiped out completely. Think!

sapphiere:
And no female among them? Indeed the future is female.

What a brainless post

kilonshele101:
You're wrong Mr.

Morality is different from normality

Norms connotes the standard behavior in a society (which is of course determined by the society) while morals connotes personal judgment of values (determined by individuals)

Something might be abnormal in a society not because it's morally wrong but because it's different from what the majority of the people are doing.

LGBT is abnormal not because they are faulty nor morally wrong, but because majority of us are straight.

You can't judge other people's morality
Morality is personal

Such a fragile point to argue from, because gay is morally right on a personal perspective then it should not be judged by other people How does that sound logically stable to you.
There is a handful of other things I can mention that is morally upright to some strange people too.
Think of a point properly before you use it as the basis of an argument

anastasius:
I didn't read this. Just read books and stop being a bigot and close minded individual

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” ― Martin Luther King Jr.

anastasius:
U have alot of reading to do cos obviously u are dumb.
Read about Sexual orientation. It's just like white people saying Blacks are mad and less humans, did u create urself to be black??
Did u also create ursef to be gay straight or whatnot? It's what ur body is conditioned to be attracted to

if we go through this route then we would end in circles, the argument that people where born naturally gay is still under big discussion and no medical research have exclusively prove gay to be natural and if that were to be the case then not everyone who are gay are driven by natural sexual orientation.
Meanwhile there are a lot of things people are born with naturally yet they were termed "abnormal" and where under treatment and quarantine, this are for example dark traits Machiavellianism, psychopathy and narcissism, in most cases this behaviors when medically confirmed, people are put on quarantine and a lot of medical facilities has been established for the treatment of this behaviors, people are encourage and pushed to go for treatment.

Here is the circle, if we were to allow everything natural, then allowing gay or lesbianism is just the beginning of the journey, we would also need to allow some other things we had placed rules and regulations on previously and this encompasses bestiality, incest, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, narcissism and the list goes on.
The bone of contention is this, gay being natural isn't a solid reason for gay to be allowed, you need more reason why it should be allowed just incase you get in a position to defend gay.

Discombulator:
The problem with you people is backwardness and entitlement, normally any morally upright person would not care about what another person decides to do with their body

"Morality exceeds human" is still a very big discussion.
And for most part of morality, it stays with human and if that is the case then
"normally any morally upright person would not care about what another person decides to do with their body"
would be a contradicting statement, because we human to a large extent determines morality, so if majority of us decides we don't want something and it doesn't make us happy then it means we don't consider it morally right.
One example is killing of animals, since most human don't see anything wrong in it, we instead see it as a survival mechanism then it is not morally wrong except for vegetarians. Now if vegetarians becomes the largest population, let's say 40 years from now, new born then would naturally think it is morally wrong to eat meat and by then anyone who eats meat would be doing something deemed to be morally wrong, and sincerely it would be morally wrong since majority of people aren't happy with such action.

So if gay don't make majority of people happy in a region, then it could be considered morally wrong when you're a gay.
I hope you understand?

hmmmmm trump should have won in peace o

Bennysam:
So you’re encouraging your fellow for the stupid attitude this year again

Not really, if men stop giving stuff out of ulterior motives then everything about relationship will be fine. This is the main cause of the "Angry white knights on Nairaland"(redpills). They all started out as white knights, giving women gift until they where left heart broken. and now they seek vengance.

But for real men, we don't give things out of ulterior motives. We give it and let it go. If we want something then we ask for it.

emusmithyy:
I've seen it again and again that most ladies, mostly Nigerian ladies love being treated like trash. Hence the dogma, Nice guys come last.

If you're nice, too nice, NO GIRL WILL DATE YOU. They'll friendzone you!

Don't get me wrong, this has nothing to do with your religion. Being nice in this context is being gullible & uninteresting. Being thoughtful to a lady that don't give a damn about your existence!

You must learn to FLIRT with ladies. Flirting is one major sign associated with non-boring guys.

I cum in peace! �

stop looking at sick people please.
we know we have alot of sick women around us, but you should know they aren't normal.
You only run into conclusion when you meet mad people

I actually don't know they exact reason but guys seem to be attracted to entitled ladies, the one posting twerk videos on status, the one that post guys with them in cars, the ones that seem to have achieved in life and above every guy she meets, The ones that wear bum-shorts and tight jeans everywhere, flashing boobs and flat tummy and butt.

But sis Amaka who is a market woman doing her good business, Helen working as a teacher and using nokia touch light, them no see that one o. Later they will come cry all women are the same. last last I see reasons why Gay are on the rise.

Stop understanding women nature

Understand your own nature.

if you don't follow this advice above then don't ignore this one, it is worth your everything!

DON'T GIVE GIFT OR MONEY OUT OF ULTERIOR MOTIVES.

If you want sex, then ensure you either get it first or she sign a contract before you give the gift,
if you want kiss, get it first before giving the gift,
if you want loyalty, get it first and see your gift as a reward.

Else just give it and believe it is gone for good or better still keep it back.

Happy New Year to those who want to grow to Learning Men Nature.

NiRfreak:
You are so twisted that you don't even know in what context "White Knight" is best used. You can use White Knight as u wish but it doesn't apply to real redpillers.....it's an appellation reserved for simp in Chief like you.

What is common between simp and redpill?

One finds it hard to understand women and thinks of this often, the other talks about understanding women and think of this often.

They both are same people in different clothing.

NiRfreak:
Simps are known to fight the red-pill with their last blood. The fear and trouble of cognitive dissonance they experience after hearing about redpill is really too traumatising for them to bear, so they do all they can to make their simping default setting the reality. I know it's hard on you. Pele. Mr Emotions and being true to your emotion. Na your type they cry because of woman.

Here the "angry white knight" goes again!.
What is the joy in name-calling other guys?
Where you born with the so-called "redpill" theory you now sing as anthem.
The sad answer is NO. maybe you were bullied or coerced into it and same reason you try to bully other guys to it.
But if it was worth it, then people would come in freely.

White knight is bad, but the "Angry one" is worst.

JOACHINpedro:
Haba bro, You quoted me 2months later.
No p sha but the truth is that I'm not a redpiller. I'm just a realist, I say it as they are regardless of who gets favoured.

Busy with work, little time to hangout on nairaland.
If you're a realist then you should understand the burden of realism. The reality of the word "redpill" is many in meaning.
In theory it look quite ok and a bit acceptable at least by some writer who still know how to seduce it's readers.
In reality, redpill is nothing but steroid for "White Knight Men".

Kobicove:
What she said made a lot of sense.

Using a false accusation of rape to get back at someone who has wronged you is unacceptable!

Unacceptable isn't the word, punishable should be better

JOACHINpedro:
Truth be told, redpill is good. It boosts ones self-worth and dignity. But the problem is that some guys swallow the wrong pills and mistake it to redpill. Some swallow misogyny pill, some swallow the brown pill and some got choked while trying to swallow the grey pill.
I advice the redpill-wannabe to have a full grasp of the fundamentals on what you intend to make out of your lifestyle while redpilling.
It can make or mar you

Repill isn't a something that has a particular definition.
The faster you understand this, the better it is for you, it will be better you choose what you like than label yourself with something that has some range of theory from different angles.

Yankiss:
All these oloshos should live their life in quietness. Child without father. Bastard for that matter. Abeg shift make I faint joor. A generation without scruple.

why e come dey pain you for body?

I have been noticing a pattern of comments among some so called alpha males here although in the jungle alpha males are very few but here we see a lot of people trying to build a pack full of only alphas (if anything ever existed as such) and the attitude has led some timid guys to join the band-wagon which now is a religious/cult settings with strict rule against expression that paint anything that sound goods to a lady gender and if you don't join, they romance you with words like "SIMP", "They wouldn't give you free pussy", "The pill is a bitter pill", "wake up to the reality", "This one never jam bad women".

Ok they promise to offer you the truth and reality of relationship, by this they mean to start acting the opposite of anything good to get girls attention. This is just the most stupid logic any man would listen to in his life

Here is the reality
simp - act nice to get a girl
redpill - act opposite to get a girl.

The idea here is to get a girl attention, it means most so called redpill followers are just either sex freak or womanizer or some people who need godlike power to control any women they dream of magically on their bed, some just need a magic wand to gather sex partners and girls validation, if
by any means you have started showing some shady attitude of recent just to get any girl attention, then it simply means women have become your God. Forget it, whether you put her on pedestal or whether you act mad and violent but if it is for the sake of her respect and likeness, let us not deceive ourselves, women has become your main focus/God. Let me also shock you,
We have girl that want bad/dangerous men - Masochism
We have bad/dangerous girls that need men to suffer - Sadism
We have the ones in grey areas

It depends on how the card is being played, in fact there are girls that like their boyfriend to beat them, some like to be maltreated, some like adventure and cheating game, if by any means you make yourself a beast to fit a good spec to bang this kind of girls, ensure it don't take you down the road of no return. Life is really that complicated to think because of your actions get you some likes by some female folk previously ignoring you becomes your new ways/decision as a man.

More so, I see guy have stopped commenting on this romance section with their actual feeling, out the shame of not straying from the herd because if they do, a redpill member is ready to hit you back with a "simp" cane or a bully sword. Well, putting women on pedestal is bad but inability to express yourself out of conviction is the worst thing a man can ever face in this world. You are not just "weak man" but you're a toy of every man who feels he has control of what you lack even if he doesn't know shit.

IF YOU ARE REAL MAN, THEN YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHEN TO STAY AWAY FROM THE HERD AND THINK THINGS FOR YOURSELF, sure some herd ideas are helper and life saving but when it squeezes your freedom of expression, they you need to watch it.

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donestk:
If you're broke and dating a girl, forget it, she's also seeing a another guy better off.

Initially she might not be having sexx with him yet but making out is permitted.

If the 'better off' guy shows real interest in her, dude the game is over. Flimsy excuses will come up to kick you off the cliff.

To guys, money is everything.

I thought this fowl crying and throwing blame around was a thing of bitter woman.
I thought bitter women were the only ones saying all "ALL MEN ARE THE SAME", "ALL MEN ARE LIKE DAT".
Only to come to Nairaland and find men crying AWALT
Nairaland has successfully created weak men who rant all day.

Life is a journey, failure is an orphan and a success has many fathers.
Whether you later become rich, some girls would still leave you for someone richer.
Your experience should create more awareness for you rather than fear.

We continue

Male supremacy is an ideology with many faces. Its unifying thread is virulent, at times violent misogyny, and the practice of blaming women and a large feminist conspiracy for the ills of (mostly white) men today. Like other hate groups, male supremacist hate groups propagate conspiracies that see the world as a matriarchy propped up by “cultural Marxism” meant to eradicate or subjugate men. It is driven by the belief that men are entitled to a superior place in society than women, which are biologically and intellectually inferior — as a result, any advancement that women might have obtained is nothing more than a usurpation. Like white supremacy, male supremacy is driven by fear and anger at the loss of white male status.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/male-supremacy

If you aren't born to hate or your true intention is just to advance your relationship status then be careful of what the redpill says, please read leadership books and men empowerment book for your self development. Men empowerment books are not so easy to find, neither does the redpill has them completely either. Please refer to the frontpage of some suggested books to gain enlightenment.