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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:47am On Jan 02, 2018
eph12:
It's no more Gerrard >>>> Scholesy, its now Scholesy too hot abi? Don't worry you will be alright
We just need Assnal to do the Lord's work and keep Nihilist humble, and also get him off the shayos that's spurring him on.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:36am On Jan 02, 2018
Nihilist:
Didn't realise you"d taken up residence inside Paul Scholes head.

Whats the rent like in that side?
So one can't make mistake again? He's saying words from the spot and is bound to get some things wrongly said jor.

You're trolling. Na your way. grin

Oya, coman anbee goin to that dinghy mud house of a Shekpe thread. angry

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:32am On Jan 02, 2018
elampiro:
What is the 6 sec rule?
It's rule implemented by Pep at Barcelona where he tasked his players "to recover a misplaced pass or lost ball from their opponents under 6 secs". What we saw was a high octane pressing from the entire team once they lost a ball, rushing opponents like a pack of wolves, and inevitably forcing them to kick away the ball (or give away the ball in dangerous positions like Fabregas against Barcelona which Arsenal were punished for) under immense pressure which his players will then collect and recycle, and start dominating you all over again.

If Messi loses the ball, he chases the player with the ball, while Eto, Xavi, Iniesta, Busquet and Co closes down "the free players of the opponents" which the opponent with ball will pass to. He's now forced to kick the ball away or give it to his goalie to kick it away. Once the goalie does that, Pique, Busquet and other defenders win it back fast and continues dominating again. It's why Pep hardly lose possession, it's how he defends, and it's no surprise that City are playing with that same style
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:22am On Jan 02, 2018
PietroRico:
grin grin
Abeg Mona ignore Nihilist
Who trolls immediately after his birthday? Only Nihilist. Trolling annoyingly. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:21am On Jan 02, 2018
Nihilist:
Sinizia ive spent the last few days in a state of near perpertual intoxication, so i didnt remember Scholes comments on Pogba very accurately.

Scholes: "I watched Pogba a lot a Juventus, he was a worker, he was a runner....but the real footballer was Pirlo

Yeezus.

The sass on that man.

He don extend the fake fans vs real fans debate reach Pogba side.

Pogba is not a real footballer - Paul Scholes

My good god.
He meant the real CONTROLLER in that midfield was Pirlo. Does it mean Pogba is a fake footballer? He's not reading from an article so he will get some words wrongly said
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:18am On Jan 02, 2018
Nihilist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShBFvP94xTg

Here you go mate.
You're right. He said that. Actually, I've given Pirlo and Vidal the most praise in that midfield when I was putting out my defence on why we shouldn't buy Pogba for 89m. I side with Scholes on this one that Pirlo was the major midfielder controller at Juventus, though I don't agree that Pogba was just a runner for that team. Pogba controlled the game too but not as good as the majestic Pirlo. The runner for me is Vidal with his boundless energy.

But you cunningly neglected the part he said "he's the player to win you games". Not every midfielder will control the midfield like Pirlo, it doesn't take away their value for the team. Pogba can't control the midfield like KDB or Xavi, I agree, but he's a goal threat, intelligent and can control the midfield to a good extent.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:03am On Jan 02, 2018
elampiro:
The players who covered most ground per match last season. No Manchester United player.

Mourinho has to learn not to pamper and over protect players.
Just imagine. Very very disgusting from our players and Mourinho their coach. Mourinho has to shoulder the blame coz it's up to him to make his team cover much ground.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:01am On Jan 02, 2018
elampiro:
As at November 7th, we were covering the least distance. We were 20th on the distance table.

Is it not some of the things I have been saying that we don't work hard. We don't press for the ball.
Actually, even last season, United covered the least ground among the top 5. In short don't be surprised if for the last 4 seasons, we've covered the least grounds amongst the top 5. That's been the theme of our play for years now. We play lazy football. We start brightly, score and start loitering about, soaking up pressure. It's what we've complained about that Jose has to add more urgency and speed to our game play. We have to have to attack more, close down opponents faster so we can snuff any threat they will unleash. That's one thing Tottenham, Chelshit, City and Co have over us.

Guardiola has implemented the "6 secs rule" and it's working like Magic for City. Mourinho needs to make this guys press harder as a way of defending.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:52am On Jan 02, 2018
Nihilist:
Im not really here to debate your opinion bro.

I just quoted your club legend's comments on your club record signing.

That level of savagery was last seen on screen in the movie 'the revenant'.
Drop the link where he said those lines before I believe you.

The same "The Revenant" which you describe as a wildlife documentary? Nothing savagery about his statement if it's being compared to the gore in a wildlife documentary. tongue
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:48am On Jan 02, 2018
PietroRico:
klopp smiled with the media
and hugged all his players and still got sacked.

In the end na output be the most important thing.
It doesn't matter how nice or mean a manager is, he will get sacked if he doesn't produce.

So we dey leave the really important thing here
You sure about that? Dortmund sacked Klopp?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:45am On Jan 02, 2018
Nihilist:
I actually watched the punditry after the southampton game and scholes was saying that he watched a lot of pogba at juventus and that pogba was never a midfield controller... all he did was run around while pirlo pulled the strings

Essentially Pogba = Ramires with a fancy haircut.

Zing.

Scholesy too hotty.
Same way Hazard is a one corner activity former with a Belgian heritage.


Real Madrid Begging too hotty. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:42am On Jan 02, 2018
PietroRico:
saying Pogba didn't cover ground is probably not true. Anyone can go bring the heat map of that game.
The entire team was lethargic, so it wasn't a Pogba issue issue.

If we continue to drag this we will keep veering further and further away from the argument because new areas of disagreement will keep popping up.
It is at this point I'll drop my pen.
Happy new year
Heat map is basically anywhere you went to on the pitch, it's not a correct benchmark to determine distance covered. Someone could've been to many places on the pitch but with a lazy motion. Scholes also talked about the whole team being lethargic, maybe you missed it.

“United look a tired team, they look like they have played 50 or 60 games this season already and we are half way through. I know the crowd were quiet but you have to give them something. They gave them absolutely nothing, it was dead out there.

“I swear to God, they need to liven up, this team, because top four isn’t even guaranteed from this moment. You have got some good teams in there - Tottenham, Liverpool, Arsenal - and they will all be challenging.”
Let's move on from it. Happy new year, bro.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:23am On Jan 02, 2018
Nihilist:
Essentially Jose is just saying that Gerrard > Scholes.

Damn, i love the smell of disparaged manyoo legends in the morning.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:21am On Jan 02, 2018
PietroRico:
the classic approach has won him a 25 trophies.
What is a klopp?
That classic approach have gotten him falling out with everyone at his past two clubs and getting removed. It may have been tolerated when he's still heralded as the best thing after Ferguson, right now it's no longer working.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:18am On Jan 02, 2018
PietroRico:
Where is the Paul Pogba we saw at Juventus? He was all over the pitch, he was battling, he was tackling, he was sprinting to people, he was scoring goals from 25 yards out.
"He is just strolling through games."
Scholes
said that after a run of 3 uninspiring draws and Pogba didn't necessarily cover himself in glory or stand out particularly in those matches, so Scholes was right.

Scholes added:
. "Pogba doesn't look fit. I wonder whether he is training properly.
"He does not look like a player who will win you games and that is what you pay £90m for.
With the way Pogba and Matic had "snail-like" performance against Southampton, Scholes was doubting his fitness because he wasn't covering much ground which a player that's fit like Pogba should try and do. Mentioning the £90m may be going too far considering how Pogba has improved earlier this season but Scholes still said this below.


"No-one in England should be getting near him, but he is being asked to do a role he is not comfortable in.
That was Scholes reaffirming Pogba's quality and talent and expecting him to do more. He also blames Mourinho for playing him in a position that doesn't allow him showcase his talent optimally. What we saw the next match (yesterday) was Mourinho moving Pogba forward and changing his tactic. We also saw Pogba putting in the shift that Scholes was talking about. So you see, that criticism can be said in playing a part in our changed game yesterday.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:58am On Jan 02, 2018
PietroRico:
I have always maintained that Pogba wasn't poor last season.
Even in the 1st half.
89m just didn't allow many people to be reasonable.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that then coz we share different views on that issue.


But just note that, it's natural that Neymar's display should be "better" or at least "there will be a higher level of expectation" from him than with a wing-forawrd that cost £10m. £200m is enough money to expect a certain kind of performance from Neymar.

There's a reason people are more on Hazard's case but not on Willian who's considered a waste. Your reputation will determine the kind of expectation you'll get.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:52am On Jan 02, 2018
PietroRico:
how would you know?
Even if we agree that Pogba wasn't annoyed.
We all know why Mourinho was talking about city in the way he was.
It is how he always intentionally deflects attention from his squad whenever there is about to be scrutiny.

It is classic Mourinho.


It is something he will almost always do.
It is part of the Mourinho package.
It doesn't mean Jose doesn't know he has to build a squad.
Scholes should know this
He'd find a better way to "deflect attention from his squad". He's not the only coach under criticism. Klopp and Conte have had their fair share of criticism, but they used another approach to handle it.

The "classic Mourinho" approach is bringing more haters for us. Due to his excessive complaints United have become the butt of jokes via memes on various social media.

It's this "classic Mourinho" approach that made Conte fall out with him. It's why Conte doesn't even want to shake him. He talks about other clubs excessively. Did you read his "big club small club" comments about Chelsea, Arsenal and Co? Was that really necessary? He'd have found another way to pass his message. Chelsea fans loved him to death before, his loose mouth has cost him that reverence.

I've talked about a BBC pundit called Garth Crooks who used to moan about Pogba's hair last season and people backed him because Pogba wasn't playing well. This season he tried it and got no supporter because Pogba had started playing well. So even if Mourinho was complaining about other clubs but his team kept producing good results, nobody will bat an eyelid. But in a scenario where your team is struggling, and instead of focusing on how to arrest the slump you're busy talking of Man City, Pep, Chelshit, Assanal and Klopp, don't expect any form of sympathy coz people will see you as a nagging wife even if you're right.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:34am On Jan 02, 2018
elampiro:
I guess Pogba didn't get annoyed, he raised his game. Mourinho is annoyed because he was told to stop talking about Manchester City. Scholes went on to say Guardiola has worked to build a good team. Scholes probably wanted Mourinho to seat down to work on his team.
And all these things are what many fans find very annoying. It's what I've complained about last 2 days.

Mourinho has virtually complained about everybody, from fans to rival coaches/clubs to ex-players and United board. He might be right in some of his complaints or even in all of them, but when he keeps whining constantly, nobody will support him. He brings bad publicity and it's damaging his reputation. He'd stop the unnecessary blame and focus on his players.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:29am On Jan 02, 2018
PietroRico:
the criticism didn't remind Pogba. The system changed.
He would have struggled too us we stuck with that disjointed 4 4 2
Last season Pogba played this same role in some matches and struggled as well so it's not all down to the system. So while the system helped, Pogba showed resilience and put in an energetic display personally. A coach can change a system and the players still decide not to show up. Pogba deserved credit for actually upping his game.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 3:07am On Jan 02, 2018

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 2:57am On Jan 02, 2018
elampiro:
I see nothing wrong with what Scholes said. Mourinho was actually talking too much about Manchester City. Secondly, Pogba was not the Pogba at Juventus.

Today we saw the Pogba at Juventus after the criticism. So the criticism reminded Pogba how he used to play and hit shots from 25 yards, just as he almost scored one today.

I concur. There's nothing "excessive" about Scholes' criticism. Mourinho just needed someone to talk about. He's mentioned Pogba earning more money than a critic due no fault of Pogba's last season in defence of Pogba, he's done it again. Of what need is reminding us that Pogba is richer than Scholes in that defence of Pogba? If Pogba is richer than Scholes, who cares? Many footballers are richer than all the pundits, but the pundits still get to say their minds which might be wrong or right.

Scholes talked about Pogba strolling on the pitch last match which was 100% true. Didn't we point it out here before the match ended? Was Scholes wrong in that accessment of Pogba's performance? Absolutely not. So, Mourinho should not while defending his players, which is good by the way, try to dismiss a constructive criticism.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:00pm On Jan 01, 2018
dopeJemi:
KDB doesn't keep it simple to the end and he is not even as skillful as Pogba, the only reason why we complain is because he doesn't get it right all the time, cause if he did we wouldn't mind

Ronaldinho didn't always get it right, Pogba is a skillful player and is only expected
KDB keeps it simple to the end, but he's not as skillful as Pogba. No dribbles or leg-overs from KDB. Kroos keeps it simple to the end too.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:55pm On Jan 01, 2018
olabode89:
From this performance we can clearly see that Pogba is not a holding midfielder and has no business playing as part of a 2 holding midfielder in the 4-2-3-1 system.

Jose needs to come up with a system where Pogba can impose himself with his attacking capabilities. Also he is not a number 10. That is the 90 million puzzle that Jose has to solve.
Well said. Jose is yet to find that "system". When he does get it, then with quality purchases, things will align well for him. He's still confused on how to get the best out of his team, the injuries are not helping matters too.

Many of our players, players that are valuable to Mourinho are in the sickbay.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:50pm On Jan 01, 2018
patrickmuf:
Today we attacked that Everton RB, Holgate in a manner remiscent of how Bayern use to attack the opposition LB couple of seasons ago with Robben, Muller and Lahm...
We had Pogba, Shaw, Lingard and other times, Martial attacking that Everton RW collectively, now that's what we want to see often...Mou had his team selection and tactics spot on...Way to go.
He needs to continue like this, then buy quality players and get them to join their new team-mates in the tactic. The tactic is very important.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:43pm On Jan 01, 2018
CapitalCee:
honestly we won today, but we missed his presence up front. whenever he plays , the opponents defense seems to be always troubled and open.
Exactly. Ukaku is tall and huge and defenders' magnet. CBs will always try to mark him hard, so Mourinho can employ the Tottenham trick. While Ukaku keeps the defenders busy, and our wing-backs in a 3-man defence system patrol the wings regularly, one of the wing-forwards can then sneak regularly to do the Lord's work for us. While the defenders are focusing on Ukaku, Lingard, Martial and Co will sneak in and score.

I need Ukaku back ASAP. Ibra can stay injured, I no send am.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:37pm On Jan 01, 2018
Make we enjoy this rare victory abeg. No need fighting. It's just a misunderstanding.

Cc: Slimghost and DopeJemi
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:35pm On Jan 01, 2018
CapitalCee:
There was one he scored last season vs Middlesbrough very fantastic, even his goal vs Southampton in the league cup final.
He scores the most important and best goals for us. If he had consistency, we'd have gotten a gem in our team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:32pm On Jan 01, 2018
CapitalCee:
But I must admit today's goals required excellent finishing, Lukaku can't finish those chances. but he is good inside the box and knock down.
Yes, Ukaku has poor finishing/technical ability, that's why if we've someone that can score and ghost in behind defenders like Martial did against Tottenham, we wouldn't be much worried with Ukaku's poor finishing coz he'd more like a player to give defenders a torrid time while the SS scores.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:27pm On Jan 01, 2018
Lana1:
True. That volley against Chelsea. The FA Cup winner. That shot vs Fenerbache. The solo run/shot he took vs.... i don forget who we played dat day...


Thr guy sabi shoot. Just wish he could improve on his technical abilities a bit and we'd ve a beast.

Mkhitaryan can enter bush...
Watford
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:26pm On Jan 01, 2018
elampiro:
With Lukaku, the intensity might not be the same. It would mean one less player in the quick build up play and ball forward drives. He wouldn't also score any of the goals we scored because of the range and shooting skill needed.
It's why I suggested Mourinho try out another formation like 352, or a 343 with the wing-forwards instructed to cut in most times, in order to provide Ukaku with another partner to help reduce the scoring burden on him. A partner that can ghost in behind the defenders while Ukaku drags them wide.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 4:25pm On Dec 31, 2017
Now that Jesus is injured, City will be all out to snatch Sanchez. If only Wenger will refuse selling till season ends.

I don't know if KDB's injury is serious, but if he's injured along with that genius called Silva for up to 3 months, City will lose momentum and things can finally balance. I need KDB and Silva out with injury so this City side will lose form.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 4:16pm On Dec 31, 2017
Leyqute:
What has happened to El Rony?
On the RUN as always.

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