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haekymbahd:
He knew he was wrong else he would have replied

And so?

According to the so-called authentic Islamic reports there wasn’t one standard way of reciting the Quran, but multiple ways, which caused confusion even among Muhammad’s closest companions!

Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 041, Number 601

Narrated by Umar bin Al Khattab: I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Apostle had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Apostle and said, “I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me.” The Prophet ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah's Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven ahruf, so recite it in the way that is easier for you."

which Ahruf do you recite? Do you now agree that there are so many variances in the quran?

haekymbahd:
He knew he was wrong else he would have replied

And so?

Sir, it is a simple question. Since you corrected him, I am asking if you have the KNOWLEDGE. Are you a MAN OF KNOWLEDGE? How did you know that you was wrong? Do you have the knowledge to detect a wrong insertion?

Was Mohammed wrong to have taught Muslims the Satanic verses?

When allah said that he is under punishment, was allah wrong?

No one cares to who a religion is tied. We are here and if you have no time get away from nairaland and face your work. do not come here to nag about time. everyone is as busy as you imagine too. provide the necessary answer and stop with your insanely long apocalyptic epistle of uncorroborated stories.

"In Sura 53:19 we read 'Have you considered al Lat and al- Uzza and Manat the third other?' This was once followed by the words 'Verily they are the exalted maidens (gharaniq, also translated 'cranes') and their intercession is to be hoped for' ('is approved' in another version). The earliest authority on the life of Mohammed (i.e. Ibn Hisham) asserts that these words were uttered by Mohammed at the instigation of Satan."

Were these 3 maidens destroyed after this revelation in the kaaba, or before it?

haekymbahd:
Answer to what exactly I have other things I spend my time on must you be a Muslim I don't understand... To you is your religion and to us is ours no Muslim is complaining...

The Byzantines will Rebound
Despite being isolated by seemingly endless deserts, and largely unaffected by the power struggles of the world’s superpowers, the Qur’an boldly foretold the most unexpected events that would transpire between Persia and Byzantium in a few short years. “The Byzantines have been defeated. In the nearest land. But they, after their defeat, will triumph. Within three to nine years.” [ar-Rūm 30: 2-4] From 613-619 CE, the Byzantines were absolutely decimated by the Persian Empire, losing the territories of Antioch, then Damascus, then Armenia, then their most cherished Jerusalem, then Chalcedon, and finally Egypt. In his book, The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Edward Gibbon says, “At the time when this prediction is said to have been delivered, no prophecy could be more distant from its accomplishment, since the first twelve years of Heraclius announced the approaching dissolution of the empire.”2 Everyone saw Byzantium as on its deathbed; thus opponents of the Prophet ﷺ like Ubayy b. Khalaf mocked this “preposterous” foretelling in the Qur’an. However, not long after, Heraclius led the Byzantine Crusade like a dagger into the heart of the Persian Empire, fulfilling the amazing prophecy 6-8 years after it was uttered.

The verses that immediately follow this prediction say, “The decision of the matter, before and after [these events], is only with Allah. And on that Day, the believers (i.e., Muslims) will rejoice in the victory of Allah.” [ar-Rūm 30: 4-5] Abu Ḥayyān al-Andalūsi (d. 1344) lists in al-Baḥr al-Muḥīṭ four reasons for this rejoicing, of them being that the miraculous prophecy unfolding would further validate their belief in his prophethood. Another reason, which involves another prophecy, is the Muslims would at that time find themselves celebrating their own victory: a long-awaited triumph against the Meccan oppressors in the Battle of Badr happened in 624 as well. It suddenly becomes quite clear why God seals Sūrat ar-Rūm by saying, “So be patient. Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth. And let them not unnerve you who are not certain [in faith].” [ar-Rūm 30: 60]

African muslims are reserved as jihad fighters. The Arabs do not need them as brothers or in laws, but they need them to fight the west and to grow their population. This is what the caliphates did. While capturing and selling blacks for slaves, they realized that they could use them as pawns in wars. Mohammed started converting them to jihad soldiers and this allowed him the luxury of time to sit at home and play with little girz at Aisha's age.

There is no prominent Arab man with a black wife. Blacks are regarded as abid (slave) in the Arab world. Ask muslims what was mohammed's trade. They are unable to tell you outright. Paul was a tentmaker. The apostles of Christ were fishermen and other noble profession. 600 years before mohammed was born, all these information were provided. But substantial information is lack regarding islam and mohammed. As simple as how old he was when he died. No one knows for a certainty. Muslims brags about "HIS COMPANIONS" and relatives, close associates and friends. None of all of these could provide a authoritative account regarding him.

The business of mohammed was African slave trade. He traffeekd Africans and sold them in the slave market. There was a black slave called Bilal. Muslims boasts about this man. Ask them if Mohammed actually freed Bilal or not before his death. He used Bilal as a towncrier in the hot sun of the middle east. He never gave him freedom to own a life. Even at old age, black slaves continued to be given to him and Aisha.

Arabs hate Africans. They dislike anything in black skin. The UAE banned every black country while India has the highest crime rate in Dubai (homicide, scam, human rights violation etc) they banned all the muslims that they have converted from entering their country. Now, these muslims are allowed to become ministers, reps and everything that they cannot be in their own islamic territories. These women from Afghanistan cannot even go to school. They are sex slaves for the illiterate men.

haekymbahd:
Messiah
The Globalization of Islam
Amidst the fiercest persecution and abuse that the Muslims faced in the earliest Meccan period, the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ would stand without wavering and convey to his followers God’s promise of Islam spreading all over the world. Tamīm ad-Dāri (rA) reports that the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, “This matter will certainly reach every place touched by the night and day. Allah will not leave a house of mud or [even] fur except that Allah will cause this religion to enter it, by which the honorable will be honored and the disgraceful will be disgraced. Allah will honor the honorable with Islam and he will disgrace the disgraceful with unbelief.” 3 In another narration, reported by Thawbān (rA), “Indeed, Allah gathered up the earth for me so that I saw its east and its west; and indeed the dominion of my nation will reach what was gathered up for me from it.”


The fact that these predictions were made at a time when Muslims were a powerless handful, and Islam was expected to be buried in its cradle, is nothing short of miraculous. At that point, presuming that the faith would even survive would be considered by most nothing short of a pipe-dream. But to predict that Islam would not just survive, but grow to thrive globally, was at that point inconceivable. For us nowadays, witnessing a quarter of this planet’s population as subscribers to Islam makes it clear that this was no presumption, but instead another prophecy inspired by the Divine.

This one knows nothing about islam. they are bottle feeders. I have seen you online for over an hour now. You have no answer but the ones that you just read online now.

The word of God meant in this verse is the Quran. This word is complete in truth and justice. Nothing can change Allah’s word which he revealed in his BOOKS. The liars cannot add or delete from Allah’s BOOKS. This is referring without a doubt to the Jews and Christians because they are the people of the books which were revealed to their prophets. Allah is revealing that the words they (the people of the book) are corrupting were not revealed by Allah, but Allah’s word cannot be changed or substituted. (Tafsir al-Tabari, Q. 6:115; bold and capital emphasis ours)

related by ibn-Mayah in "Kitabu'l Sunan" with Sahih Muslim, page 740.

After the sudden death of Mohammed, Zaid-ibn-Thabith was ordered to compile and write down the Quran (Mishkat'ul Masabih). It is attested that at least three revelations were left out. One of these, according to Mohammed's wife, Aysha, with whom he resided at this death, was kept under their bed at the time of Mohammed's death, but was eaten by a domestic animal

is the quran preserved letter for letter, dot for dot, and number by number? Why did allah fail to protect his book from sheep?

LegalWolf:
Mr man, but you lied that:
- Tabarani was a contemporary of the prophet. Did you not? If he is, where is your evidence?
- You technically admitted that you lied that Al-Haythami was a contemporary of the prophet. Did you not? I say you technically admitted because you said 'I said what I said' after pressing your neck for evidence for your assertion
- If I have shown that you are a shameless liar who lies to win an argument, can you give me a solid logical reason why I should engage you?

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur'an, so he said to 'Uthman, “O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Quran) as Jews and the Christians did before.” So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, “Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you.” Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. 'Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, “In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue.” They did so, and when they had written many copies, 'Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. 'Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt. Said bin Thabit added, "A Verse from Surat Ahzab was missed by me when we copied the Qur'an and I used to hear Allah's Apostle reciting it. So we searched for it and found it with Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari. (That Verse was): 'Among the Believers are men who have been true in their covenant with Allah.' (33.23)” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 61, Number 510)

LegalWolf:
Pretty boy TenQ

Just like Darrel Evans aptly put it, my mentions should be like joy that comes early in the morning to you. Shouldn't that be? . Anyways, I travelled out of town for an event and I am just settling down but I have missed my pretty boy TenQ. I have so much missed you and I know you missed me too... Don't you Don't break my heart .... Let us go down to serious business.

In how many ahruf was teh quran revealed?

An Arabic Qur'an" (12:2) and "in clear Arabic language" (26:195)

4699. It is related that Anas ibn Malik said, "'Uthman commanded Zayd ibn Thabit, Sa'id ibn al-'As, 'Abdullah ibn az-Zubayr, and 'Abdu'r-Rahman ibn al-Harith ibn Hisham to write out copies of the Qur'an. He told them, "When you and Zayd ibn Thabit disagree about the Arabic of the Qur'an, you should write it in the language of Quraysh. The Qur'an was revealed in their tongue.' They did that." (Aisha Bewley, The Sahih Collection of Al-Bukhari, Chapter 69. Book of the Virtues of the Qur'an; underline emphasis ours)

TenQ:
Please ask them o: was it Allah that authorized the rearrangement of the perfect word of Allah?

Sahih Muslim, Book 004, Number 1787

Ubayy b. Ka'b reported: I was in the mosque when a man entered and prayed and recited (the Qur'an) in a style to which I objected. Then another man entered (the mosque) and recited in a style different from that of his companion. When we had finished the prayer, we all went to Allah's Messenger and said to him: This man recited in a style to which I objected, and the other entered and recited in a style different from that of his companion. The Messenger of Allah asked them to recite and so they recited, and the Apostle of Allah expressed approval of their affairs (their modes of recitation). and there occurred in my mind a sort of denial which did not occur even during the Days of Ignorance. When the Messenger of Allah saw how I was affected (by a wrong idea), he struck my chest, whereupon I broke into sweating and felt as though I were looking at Allah with fear. He (the Holy Prophet) said to me: Ubayy, a message was sent to me to recite the Qur'an in one dialect, and I replied: Make (things) easy for my people. It was conveyed to me for the second time that it should be recited in two dialects. I again replied to him: Make affairs easy for my people. It was again conveyed to me for the third time to recite in seven dialects. And (I was further told): You have got a seeking for every reply that I sent you, which you should seek from Me. I said: O Allah! forgive my people, forgive my people, and I have deferred the third one for the day on which the entire creation will turn to me, including even Ibrahim (for intercession).

LegalWolf:
Pretty boy TenQ

Just like Darrel Evans aptly put it, my mentions should be like joy that comes early in the morning to you. Shouldn't that be? . Anyways, I travelled out of town for an event and I am just settling down but I have missed my pretty boy TenQ. I have so much missed you and I know you missed me too... Don't you Don't break my heart .... Let us go down to serious business.

PRELIMINARY POITS

You have written four long epistles to who... ? errrm probably to the xgsyebkahdi! (meaning - to the dustbin!) . And at last count, I have replied two out of four of these posts. I woke up this morning expecting a detailed rebuttal but all I could see is you shouting liar bla bla bla. Now you have alleged I am a liar which I will give you the ample opportunity to prove (with detail proposal to be described in the points to follow).

But before doing that, I will set out tonight to rebut EACH and EVERY of the remaining two epistles you wrote. Thereafter, I will now set out to writing three detailed posts which aims to fulfil two things:
1. That you are a shameless, worthless, immorally bankrupt Liar who lied ostensibly to win an argument (first two of the post); and
2. That you should prove that I am a liar.

Since I am the one alleging (1), I TAKE the challenge to PROVE BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT that you are a liar who has lied to win an argument despite pretensions to the contrary. My first two posts will address that. But since you are the one alleging two here:

According to the so-called authentic Islamic reports there wasn’t one standard way of reciting the Quran, but multiple ways, which caused confusion even among Muhammad’s closest companions!

Narrated by Umar bin Al Khattab: I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Apostle had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Apostle and said, “I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me.” The Prophet ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah's Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven ahruf, so recite it in the way that is easier for you." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 041, Number 601)

Oh, so you have knowledge? Are you a man of knowledge? Did you explain it with what spirit? What qualifies you to provide explanations of this sort? How did you know that he didn't understand it?

According to the so-called authentic Islamic reports there wasn’t one standard way of reciting the Quran, but multiple ways, which caused confusion even among Muhammad’s closest companions!

Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 041, Number 601

Narrated by Umar bin Al Khattab: I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Apostle had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Apostle and said, “I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me.” The Prophet ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah's Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven ahruf, so recite it in the way that is easier for you."

haekymbahd:
it wasn't wrong he didn't understand it and I explained to him...

haekymbahd:
when you answer whether Jehovah is wahid or ahad there lies your answer...

haekymbahd:
Prophet Muhammad will be the last prophet simple so use your head..

That is not the questions, Sir.

haekymbahd:
Messiah was already ordained a prophet before prophet Muhammad...

What does that mean? Are you trying to say that Mahdi is not a messiah? And, not a messenger?

haekymbahd:
In John 1:19-28, John the Baptist is asked if he is Elijah, and he denies that he is Elijah (or the Prophet or the Christ).

How does this relate to the question?

haekymbahd:
He isn't comming as a prophet but Christ even the Jews knows this....

What is he coming as?

And, what prophecies did mohammed make?

Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 041, Number 601

Narrated by Umar bin Al Khattab: I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Apostle had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Apostle and said, “I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me.” The Prophet ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah's Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven ahruf, so recite it in the way that is easier for you."


A man was choked and allah's prophet didn't ask why he was brought like a goat. Could have been seize before prayer but even the prayer did not change that man's heart. It was perfunctory to him. What he intended to do remained with his heart.

islam is a very disorganized religion. jumble and fumble.

FxMasterz:
Smiles. I got it.

Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 041, Number 601

Narrated by Umar bin Al Khattab: I heard Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to that of mine. Allah's Apostle had taught it to me (in a different way). So, I was about to quarrel with him (during the prayer) but I waited till he finished, then I tied his garment round his neck and seized him by it and brought him to Allah's Apostle and said, “I have heard him reciting Surat-al-Furqan in a way different to the way you taught it to me.” The Prophet ordered me to release him and asked Hisham to recite it. When he recited it, Allah's Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way." He then asked me to recite it. When I recited it, he said, "It was revealed in this way. The Qur'an has been revealed in seven ahruf, so recite it in the way that is easier for you."

Truvelisback:
Muslims believes ablution(washing their hands, mouth, legs and different parts of their body with water) cleanses them from whatever sin they might have committed.

A man was choked and allah's prophet didn't ask why he was brought like a goat. Could have been seize before prayer but even the prayer did not change that man's heart. It was perfunctory to him. What he intended to do remained with his heart.

islam is a very disorganized religion. jumble and fumble.

So the hadith that he posted earlier is wrong. Ain't it?

haekymbahd:
Save by grace of God... It means if anyone should repent at the before death his/her sins will be forgiving. Check the Hadith below for better clarification...

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Hadith Number 800B

Narrated By ‘Ikrima from Ibn ‘Abbas : Allah’s Apostles said, “When a slave (of Allah) commits illegal sexual intercourse, he is not a believer at the time of committing it; and if he steals, he is not a believer at the time of stealing; and if he drinks an alcoholic drink, when he is not a believer at the time of drinking it; and he is not a believer when he commits a murder,” ‘Ikrima said: I asked Ibn Abbas, “How is faith taken away from him?” He said, Like this,” by clasping his hands and then separating them, and added, “But if he repents, faith returns to him like this, by clasping his hands again.

You cannot answer for your allah. I asked you cos Antichristian said that allah is ahad while myislam said wahid. So, I need your confirmation.

again can you throw more light on mahdi. Is he a prophet a messenger or a messiah?

Is islam a family affair?

haekymbahd:
is Jehovah wahid or ahad?

Is allah wahid or ahad?

Will Madhi be a messenger, a messiah, a prophet or a sender.

haekymbahd:
Save by grace of God... It means if anyone should repent at the point of death his/her sins will be forgiving. Check the Hadith below for better clarification...

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Hadith Number 800B

Narrated By ‘Ikrima from Ibn ‘Abbas : Allah’s Apostles said, “When a slave (of Allah) commits illegal sexual intercourse, he is not a believer at the time of committing it; and if he steals, he is not a believer at the time of stealing; and if he drinks an alcoholic drink, when he is not a believer at the time of drinking it; and he is not a believer when he commits a murder,” ‘Ikrima said: I asked Ibn Abbas, “How is faith taken away from him?” He said, Like this,” by clasping his hands and then separating them, and added, “But if he repents, faith returns to him like this, by clasping his hands again.

They do not care about your love. Just pound them with the truth. the older ones are locked in the bad ways. the younger ones are more critical of the lies. Pound him hard. He is vicious. Look at his moves. He is not playing. He comes really hard and look at his pseudonym. that man can kill you if granted the chance. do not be lenient at all with them. they need tough love.

FxMasterz:
Sure. I'll quote him separately. I am just passionate about them knowing the truth o. I don't hate them at all.

AntiChristian:
I didn't come here for him. And why are you always calling on him?
na your 4th god?

you came for Christians. I am one.

Haha I am seriously laughing at that illiterate antichristian. He is in a hard place right now. The man bailed for a long time and now he got hooked again. The startling thing is that what we post are directly from their sahih sources. We are not even reaching out to the plethora of unbelievable books in their archives. All these are sahih sources and still they just can't accept their own islamic teachings. It is shocking to them. They can't simply answer a yes or no to their own islamic doctrines. The other one called me a hater and a racist bigot for simply posting a verse in the quran.

So, if he reads hate in that verse, then the quran is surely a hate-filled book.

It rattles my mind to think of it that all we post here are simply their islamic texts but they are shocked by it. Rather than criticizing the people who wrote it, they call you names.

TenQ:
The Qur'an, Hadiths and their Tafsirs is enough to COMPLETELY destroy all of Islam without any help from other sources!

Ask him about the mahdi. Is the mahdi a prophet or a messiah? Ask him what a messiah is. Ask him if the mahdi will be SENT by allah which makes him a messenger. He cannot move an inch on all of these questions because anything he says contradicts what mohammed says.

The Hadith has already tied mohammed's hands so they are stuck. The man knows that he cannot move a single inch.

Messiah means Christ. Christ means an anointed one. Is the mahdi anointed? By who?

They believe that the mahdi comes before issa Christ. So, press him on that. The way he publicly called his allah ahad hahaha he will commit another shirk hahaha

walahi you are going to get this man beheaded soon. He is shittinggg on islam all over the place


The Prophet said: If only one day of this time (world) remained, Allah would raise up a man from my family who would fill this earth with justice as it has been filled with oppression.

FxMasterz:
Hahaha, tell me why you fear sixfiguresmart so much to even think he could be a god?

Is allah wahid or ahad?

You were running your mouth outta your wheels without thinking how deep you are getting yourself into a mesh. Here were are and you are in total contrast with your source. Your myislam disagrees with you. You do not read what they write or they deceived you.

Is allah wahid or ahad?

AntiChristian:
Yeah he is a god like Baal!

He can lie for Christ!

That's why i fear liars like you lots!

Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) considered blacks of Zanj ancestry as slaves by nature and destined to serve others.

He called blacks “raisin heads” too

He said black men have the most impure hearts among man and their hearts desire sexual lust the most in a satanic way

Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling at Mahai'a, i.e., Al-Juhfa. I interpreted that as a symbol of epidemic of Medina being transferred to that place (Al-Juhfa)."

Sahih Bukhari 9:87:161

"I have heard the Apostle say: 'Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal.' He was a sturdy black man with long flowing hair, Ishaq:243

Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin."

Sahih Bukhari 9:89:256

In another Hadith, Mohammed is quoted as saying that Blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves". (Sahih Moslem vol. 9 pages 46 and 47).

The caliphate captured and sold black slaves to Europe. they used blacks to build Portugal and Europe and then they introduced the white man to the business of selling blacks as slaves

Ask him the questions that he needs to answer. He is running away. Do not give him a breather. Match him fire for fire. He is illiterate. He knows nothing but what their mullah has programmed him to say.

Ask him if allah is ahad or wahid.

FxMasterz:
Hahaha, I'm following with rapt attention. Na so Antichristian come confess say na god you be.

AntiChristian:
Wahid is different from Ahad.

Thank you. You have been pushed for far too long and now you confessed the truth. Remember that you and your other brother argued with yourselves that ahad were One. He even had to screenshot the meaning on google and eventually he deceitfully cropped the part where he got exposed. After I exposed him, he never showed up anyone. He wildly dissipated. I love the truth that you have come to know now. So, allah was referred to as Ahad and we will note that as we proceed.

AntiChristian:
Here, one should fully understand that the word wahid is used in Arabic just like the word "one" in English.

That is the basic Arabic for beginners. That is clear. Push deeper into the spicy part. We are here for you. I have challenged you to bring any Arabic text. Go to your vaults, archive, and islamic museum and fetch yourself some salvation to defend allah.

AntiChristian:
A collection consisting of great pluralities is collectively called wahid or one, as one man, one nation, one country, one world, even one universe, and every separate part of a collection is also called one.

Let me teach you some Arabic. Read these number in Latinized letters. Pay attention to the very first one. Now, compare that to the 11th number. You can clearly see that that the sound has moved from WA to AH. Why? Simply, the quantity.
1 wahid/wahidun 2 ithnaan 3 thalatha 4 arba’a 5 khamsa 6 sitta 7 sab’a 8 thamaaniya 9 tis’a 10 ashara 11 ahada ashara

Using collective nouns to strike a dumb ball is a waste of your time. Only a fool uses such level of reasoning to explain a simple thing. Do you think wahid is used for collective nouns? You are delusional. Such a stark illiterate who thinks that wearing a pair of odd white shoes gives him a pass to a cool party.

kas wahid jayid ONE cup is good.
'akhadh 'ahad alkuUs He took ONE OF the cups

Examine both sentences above and see what I have been trying to teach you. You scholars are fooling you and that is why they banned you muslims in UAE cos you are abeed to them. They had banned you from Saudi Arabia and will ban you again.

AntiChristian:
But the word Ahad is not used for anyone except Allah. That is why wherever in the Qur'an the word wahid has been used for Allah, He has been called itah wahid (one Deity), or Allah-ulWahid-al-Qahhar.

That is why you are an abeed, a slave. Cos you are absolutely ignorant. A jerrk in an ahss. That's what you are. Read the example that I gave you above. Let me give you another.

'ahad al'awlad al jodud One of the new boys
kas wahid Jadid one new cup

So, learn and stop being an object of mockery. These Arabs have fooled you. They fooled your grandpas and you too. They will never teach you what I am teaching you. They rather lied to you and keep you in slavery. They only need you for Jihad. Afterwards, they will eradicate all black breeds just as mohammed did.

AntiChristian:
(One Allah Who is Omnipotent), and nowhere just wahid, for this word ' is also used for the things which contain pluralities of different kinds in their being.

Pray that no Arab or Arabic speaker read this cos this is worst than zina and shirk what you wrote there. It is called blasphemy in Saudi Arabia. I will advise you to cease going down this terrain and you never put your face up here. Cos you might be called apostate. Sir, you have no business with Arabic. Be careful! What you typed here is the reverse of what the Arabs preach.

AntiChristian:
On the contrary, for Allah and only for Allah the word Ahad has been used absolutely, for He alone is the Being Who exists without any plurality in any way, Whose Oneness is perfect in every way.

such a clown. I dont know if to laugh at this level of ignorance or feel pity that your head is about to roll over blasphemy. Sir, for your safety, protect your identity cos you no longer have control over this material that you posted online. Bullcheet is what you typed above. Ignorance.

AntiChristian:
Abeg no be you i find come here as you no get any iota of sense! Fxmaster defend your lies now or become a liar forever

Come to me. Stop running away. You see him as a softer target and your are locking your dirty focus beam on him. Fxmaster always copy me on your posts. This illiterate with zero knowledge about islam and christianity is parading a dusty banner of controversies about Christianity.

You came online and I am here. We are here together. Let us get into it.

He is asking if the man that allah will SEND in the family of mohammed will be a messenger or a prophet too. Will he be the last prophet? Or, the last messenger?

Someone else is asking if the quran is allah's word or the messenger's word?
Qur'an 69:40
Indeed, the Qur'an is the word of a noble Messenger.

Ola260:
U need work

hahaha the deeper they go the more they sink.

The more lies they vomit the more points critics have.

If you notice now, they had silently quit bragging about he preservation of the quran. They are slowly informing us that men are fallible. when allah promised to protect his word. So, they knew of fallibility when they criticized the Bible for over 50 years. Now, they are beginning to accept that men WROTE the quran. No longer HANDED DOWN IN TABLET AND PAGES.

Antichristian, do you accept that the quran was handed down in tablet and pages or do you argue that men wrote it?

Lukuluku69 and antichristian, Tenq is also asking if the quran is the word of Mohammed or not according to Qur'an 69:40
Indeed, the Qur'an is the word of a noble Messenger.

TenQ:
Ask them for any direct copy of the Uthmanic Qur'an. It is NOT available or they are hiding it. What majority of the Muslims use now is the Hafs Qur'an (from Saudi government). Qur'an is only one had been their standard narrative until almost 36 different Arabic Qurans has been presented to them.

Unfortunately, they forget that the author of the Qur'an sometimes tell them the whole truth

1. Qur'an is the Words of Mohammed and not any God
Qur'an 69:40
Indeed, the Qur'an is the word of a noble Messenger.

2. All Muslims will enter Hell Fire:


Qur'an 19:71-72
There is not one of you but shall come to it, that is, [but] shall enter Hell. That is an inevitability [already] decreed by your Lord, [something which] He made inevitable and [which] He decreed; He will not waive it.

Then We shall deliver those that feared Allah and leave the wrong-doers there on their knees


They've been doing everything to mistranslate the English version. Ayah 72 makes the lies in ayah 71 inconsistent.

I pray for grace for freedom for all Muslims especially in Nigeria

I am wondering too but I need to ask antichristian. Antichristian, kindly let us know who numbered the quran and arranged the chapters.

Who ordered the Abbasid to write the Hadith?

Where is the family lineage of mohammed today since someone from his family will be the last prophet? The one that allah will SEND in mohammed's family, is he a messenger or a prophet?

Antichristian and Lukuluku69, kindly tell Tenq if the quran was HANDED down to mohamed or DICTATED.

FxMasterz would also want to hear from you guys whether the quran was recited during mohammed's lifetime since he continued receiving revelations during the night that he had an all-night sex romp with an 18 year old teenager and died on top her.

When allah said 'worship allah', was he talking to himself or to mohammed? In other verses was he talking to himself or to mohammed? How do we distinguish when allah is referring to himself and who determines that?

Are the words in the Hadith from allah or men? When you follow it, are you following allah or men?

TenQ:
I we even assume that Allah or Jubril dictated the Qur'an, does it make any sense to rearrange the chapters.

Who authorized the rearrangement? Was it Allah?

AntiChristian:
Wahid is different from Ahad.
Here, one should fully understand that the word wahid is used in Arabic just like the word "one" in English. A collection consisting of great pluralities is collectively called wahid or one, as one man, one nation, one country, one world, even one universe, and every separate part of a collection is also called one. But the word Ahad is not used for anyone except Allah. That is why wherever in the Qur'an the word wahid has been used for Allah, He has been called itah wahid (one Deity), or Allah-ulWahid-al-Qahhar. (One Allah Who is Omnipotent), and nowhere just wahid, for this word ' is also used for the things which contain pluralities of different kinds in their being. On the contrary, for Allah and only for Allah the word Ahad has been used absolutely, for He alone is the Being Who exists without any plurality in any way, Whose Oneness is perfect in every way.

Abeg no be you i find come here as you no get any iota of sense!

come and teach me Arabic. Type wahid and ahad online and lets our sources or references back us up.

Wahid is One as a noun. Which is representing of a person who is a noun too. Ahad is "one of". A verb or out of a collection.

Now bring any Arabic text to counter what I said. None. You cannot find it cos it is intellectually impossible.

I cannot say AntiChristian is one of. That is an incomplete sentence. It denotes comparison to counterparts.

Now, pull your arsenals and produced a published text that used ahad as a noun

FxMasterz:
He's sleeping. Let me wake him up.

I see him online. Hiding like a coward.
He is feeling the heat now. AntiChristian. Come out

surah 56:66 We have been penalized (punishment)

By who?

AntiChristian:
Which moniker did i present it with you? Na so you chamelons dey change color from one moniker to another!
It seem that your colleague in folly is your MOG sef cos you must mention him as you can't say anything on your own!

And of what use is the attachment you attached?

Surah 56:17 They will be waited on by immortal boys.

{ The Quran here is teaching of Bacha bazi (play boy). Go and look it up. Powerful men target handsome boys. These boys were passed around after parties among powerful men for their sexual gratification. Bacha Bazi exists as a sexual companionship between powerful men and their conscripts (young boys). The power imbalance between young boys and powerful men put these young boys in a very vulnerable position. Look up The khawal of Egyptian. Look up the The köçek of Turkey. Look up the Ghilman.
Muslim sultans were very fond of handsome young slaves whom they kept close to their persons as pages, service-boys, bodyguards, special troops and as gay companions. Islamic Poets did not disdain to give public expression to their perverted passions and to address amorous pieces of their compositions to beardless young boys. Also, notice that slavery never stops even in Jannah. Those young boys will continue to slave and serve their masters in their Jannah. Talk about reward?}

surah 56:22 And ˹they will have˺ maidens with gorgeous eyes,

{The original verb used here in Arabic means fair one. To depict the disdain for the black skin, Allah Taa’la says: The women of Jannah will be like fresh pearls because of their cleanliness and fair skin colour.. Therefore, all these black women have not yet realized that Janna is not for them. allah hates the black skin. It is never the standard of beauty or rewarding for any good muslim. Qatada mentions that these women will be pure from all external impurities such as menstruation, urine excreta and saliva.}

surah 56:24 ˹all˺ as a reward for what they used to do.

{Clearly, the quran teaches that young boys and light skin women will be the reward of those who follow mohammed. A bisexual colony of murderous recalcitrants.
Here the Quran is telling you that slavery continues even in Jannah. Not everyone gets that bouquet that these black muslims are wishing

AntiChristian:
You should ask your God why Abraham and his descendants...

Abeg no dey interfere in my discussion with person wey get small sense! You lack sense, consistency, appropriateness and truthfulness!

haha I will throw you in a muddle. You cannot hide.

You are looking for a softball to intimidate? Face off with me.

Come home.

Muhammad’s birth:

TWO WEDDINGS

Muhammad’s grandfather, Abd al-Mutallib and his father Abdallah got married the same day.

In his biography of Muhammad, Ibn Hisham says that the father of Muhammad, Abdallah, had sexual intercourse with his wife Aminah bint Wahb in her father’s house immediately after the marriage. Aminah became pregnant with Muhammad (It is undisputed fact that Amina became pregnant with Muhammad just after becoming married. And multiple sources confirm this).

Muhammad’s grandfather Abd al-Mutallib and his new wife Hala also had a son Hamza, who was Muhammad’s uncle, Hamza.

WHY IS HAMZA OLDER?

“The Book of the Major Classes” by historian Ibn Saad says that Abdallah died a few months after his marriage at the age of 25, when his wife Amina was pregnant with Muhammad.

We don’t know when Hamza was conceived, but the earliest Hamza could have been conceived was right after the wedding, just like Muhammad.

The problem now is that Muhammad and Hamza should be about the same age. If Hala and Amina both became pregnant soon after their marriage, Muhammad and Hamza would be the same age.

If Hala became pregnant a few years later, Hamza would be younger than Muhammad. But Islamic history informs us that Hamza was older than Muhammad.

In his book “Finding the Truth in Judging the Companions”, Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani writes that Hamza was born two to four years before Muhammad. Ibn Saad says in “The Book of the Major Classes” that Hamza was killed at the Battle of Uhud when he was 59 years old. Ibn Saad adds that Hamza was four years older than Muhammad.

SO WHAT HAPPENED?

There is just one logical explanation here: Muhammad was conceived 2–4 years later than Hamza. But the problem is that Muhammad’s assumed father, Abdallah died 2 months after the wedding!

So what happened?

Again, the logical conclusion would be that Abdallah was not Muhammad’s biological father, and that Muhammad was not of the influential tribe of Quraysh!

Or could it be… a miracle?

A 7th CENTURY ARAB “MIRACLE”

So, instead of admitting the possibility of Muhammad being not fathered by Abdallah, some Muslim scholars go on tangents to declare that fetuses can stay in the womb up to 4 years!

After all, it happened to Muhammad, so it’s a biological fact!

The famous opinion is that ‘Abdullah died in the second month of the pregnancy of lady Amenah with the Prophet and this was confirmed by Ibn Kathir who was born 730 years after Mohammed was born, in 1300, Bosra, Syria. Other less authenticated versions narrated that ‘Abdullah passed away during the Prophet’s infant years and other version suggested that the Prophet was two months old when his father died and others said 28 months or 9 months.

The man, Ibn Kathir that holds the most authenticated storyline surrounding Mohammed's birth was born 730 year after Mohammed was born. hahaha Let that sink in for a minute. It is synonymous to Lilibet, the daughter of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle who was born this year, confirming the birth of the son of King Edward I 'Longshanks of England born in the year 1292. Hilarious isn't it? And

FxMasterz:
Sahih Bukhari , Book 23, Number 329:

Narrated Abu Dhar:

Allah's Apostle said, "Someone came to me from my Lord and gave me the news (or good tidings) that if any of my followers dies worshipping none (in any way) along with Allah, he will enter Paradise." I asked, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft?" He replied, "Even if he committed illegal sexual intercourse (adultery) and theft."

Sixfiguresmart and TenQ should kindly help them out.

I love it when you quote from their sources. AntiChristian is grilled. He is left in utter disarray. He was begin you not to involve us cos he knows that he will escape unhurt.

Antichristian, surah 6:154 Additionally, We gave Moses the Scripture, completing the favour upon those who do good, detailing everything, and as a guide and a mercy, so perhaps they would be certain of the meeting with their Lord.


Allah, the "WE" gave Moses the scriptures and the Muslims burned them. in all the islamic world, there is no record of the Torah given to Moses. The scrolls and all the sacred books. Since the 600 CE, Mohammed and subsequently the caliphate attacked nations and burned all the scriptures that they claim allah gave to Moses. If those were from allah, why no keep them and use them for comparison?

No nation has invaded the caliphate to destroy their artefacts and burn their masjids, but in all the masjids around arabia, no single manuscript of their acclaimed holy quran is found. They burn and keep on burning to conceal all the evidence. Asked them, where are the original manuscripts of the uthman's quran?

On the other hand, fragments of the Bible that was written thousands of years before mohammed was born continue to be found in Israel. In 1947 the dead sea scroll was discovered in a forgotten cave. Ladies and gentlemen, if any letter in that dead sea scroll had the amount of disparity as we have seen in the quran, so many people would have condemned christianity and ridiculed it. The saudi Arabians found 2500 errors in the quran already and are calling for rewriting of the quran.

But given the heap of debunked lies told in the quran and the uncovered fact that the old quran had no diacritic and contained nothing factual but what has already been written in the Hebrew scriptures by the Jews. There was nothing like revelation there in that manuscript. they do not want to sound out the content of that particular manuscript in Birmingham