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This 45 year old Buharri is too strong for Aisha. That's why she escaped to London.

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What happened in Imo state is a rape of democracy. It proved that you don't even need to campaign, just wait and use the courts to subvert the wishes of the people.

Democracy is dead in Nigeria, just like every other sector.

meavox:
LET'S BE ADULT ABOUT THIS. UNITY IS THE WORD FOR ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE SOUTH AND MB - WE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE. PLEASE DON'T ALLOW FULANI TO USE YOU AGAINST YORUBA OR ANY SOUTH AND MB TRIBES. OTHERWISE YOU TOO ARE NOT SEEING IT.

Is this not what we screamed in 2014/2015 but you all chose to play the ostrich? If you're sure you heads are out of the sand, you need to apologise BIG for that unforgettable blunder.

What Ojukwu sat down and saw in 1966 is what some people are still climbing the skyscrapers at Broad Street to look for?

The one that pained me pass, was seeing an erudite professor at Law, a SAN and a respected pastor standing behind a person with zero educational value in a national election. It broke a lot of hearts. I started doubting the smartness they attribute to SW.

Even small Nnamdi Kanu saw this since 2013 and started screaming it, when we are sure you guys are serious and not a threat to get appeased with 2023 presidency, we will come out and support you.

Pazienza
UdechiHD
Oilyngbati
afam4eva
abagworo
Obikeobi
chinenyeN (plus another 30+ jobless monikers)

These are the same set of northerners whose main aim is alienating politically so their divide and rule tactics can work. Pure fulani politics, sow seeds of distrust in the south between igbo and the yoruba so they can control the south with hate politics.

I have news for you because it seems you cannot reason well, the Igbo are wiser than you think, and your brainwashing tactics stop at this page. Nobody reads your very long nonsense post filled with hate politics anymore, you tell and respond to yourself while the rest of the igbo laugh at your northern jargon.

Come and type another long rubbish, and keep your fear of Nnamdi Kanu evident in all you do. Just remember, we know your antics and it will always fail.

pazienza:
Obi1kenobi


I understand you live in SW and have Yoruba friends and you are not discerning enough to sieve out their real motives. You will not be the first Igbo man to be fooled by Yoruba friends and colleagues. Ojukwu trust in his Yoruba friends (Awolowo, Aluko, Banjo) were also part of the reason for his poor judgement of issues at hand then, which proved costly and eventually cost us the war.

On Stella. It's no secret that Yorubas fought tooth and nail against Enugu international airport status. Though that's a whole different topic of its own.

Hold it right there pally

This is the same way you typed whole textbooks herein the past to prove to us that Igbo people must separate themselves from all other Igbo speaking areas because they are hostile.

Now your preoccupation is to slash any Igbo alliance with Yorubas because it will hurt your ethnic agenda as a northerner?

Not all of us are as naive as you think pal

pazienza:
Obi1kenobi



Exactly. They don't have to liase with anyone else, just as Ndiigbo don't have to liase with them.
You are simply not making much sense here. Now they have rushed to declare Amotekun, will it still stand without FG approval? Answer is No. If they do anyhow, the Police and Army will round up those poorly fed boys they are risking their lives, and lock them up. End of story.
Amotekun will not take off without FG sanctioning it, because they are supposed to hand law breakers to the police who are controlled by the FG.
The people backing them on social media will only offer emotional support. It will not change anything, which remains that Amotekun remains against the Nigerian law if the FG insists on it being so.
You are simply offering credits where none exists.



Amotekun will improve Yoruba political positioning the same way the Abiola fiasco did.
It will heat up the polity and present Yorubas as Fighters for democracy who the caliphate will have to compensate yet again, to regain control.
It does not in anyway alienate them.
IPOB agitations by no means alienated Igbos in Nigeria, if anything, it put the spotlight on the Igbo, the caliphate were rattled then and Ohaneze and Igbo political elites were at that moment all consulted for possible solutions.

The failure of IPOB is the fact that NK does not know when to withdraw at the right time and let the polity cool off without undoing work already done.
The Yorubas are better at that, like someone already noted. Just watch how this Amotekun brouhaha will slowly peter out after reaching a crescendo.




On the contrary, my position is based on Yoruba past antecedents, while yours is based on emotionalism and wishful thinking. Humans are animals of habit, a leopard hardly changes its spots.
Of course, Yorubas know that Amotekun will be struck out by the court as our constitution have no room for such parallel security guard on regional level. The geopolitical zones are not even constitutional. If Yorubas are serious about Amotekun, they know where the real war lies, and that is in the National Assembly. But they are not interested in such, Amotekun is all about rabblerousing, so predictably, it will reach a crescendo, leading to civil unrest, street protests by Yoruba civil groups and loss of lives in SW, with Yorubas posturing themselves as defenders of Nigerian unity, then it will slowly burn out out at the law court.
And when it's all done and dusted, Amotekun will not stand, but the Yoruba elites would have achieved their aim.




We need the help of other groups, not allowing them use us to achieve their selfish interests.

If Yorubas want regional autonomy. Nigeria is supposedly a democratic society. Let Yoruba law makers in the NASS promote and sponsor such bill.
Then we can push the SE law makers to support it.
This is how we know they can be helpful to our own cause, not some media razzmatazz and din all aimed at power grab.
Buhari denied them power positions and treat their VP like a housemaid, they fought back using their Lagos-Ibadan newspapers and media propaganda machine. Buhari dusted it off like water off the back of a duck, now they came up with this particular agenda to hit up the polity.
This has all the making of a used and scorned woman fighting back.

Not all of us are that naive. They should try harder.




Where is the evidence of Yoruba being in support of restructuring? Buhari never promised restructuring, it was SW who knew the man is sectional , that was running the propaganda of Buhari being for restructuring. Buhari had on past occasions reteirated his desire to spread Sharia in Nigeria even before 2015 and these were all captured in magazines and newspapers that were well shown to all before 2015 elections, yet hate and selfish interests appealed more to them.
GEJ took years to enact reforms, but the Confab was a step in the right direction. At least we knew he was not against restructuring, just lacked the political will because he had his eyes set on re election and felt he needed core Northern votes which embracing restructuring would scuttle for him.
And when it was obvious Buhari was anti restructuring in 2019, didn't SW back him again for sectional( Osibanjo VP slot) interests?

Ironsi was not able to dissolve the regions before he died. So the region remained intact.
It was Awolowo who hitherto was preaching regionalism, that helped Gowon centralize the government and divided the regions into current states in exchange for a position in Gowon government as a defacto prime minister and then the windfall that followed after the Indigenization policy allowed Awolowo and Yoruba elites capture the entire foreign companies in Nigeria.

This is not an Igbo propaganda, this is history. In Aburi negotiations, all the Four regions were represented, how could that be if Ironsi destroyed the regions? It was never Ironsi who dissolved the regions, it was Gowon who did so, he did it with active support of Awolowo.

I understand you live in SW and have Yoruba friends and you are not discerning enough to sieve out their real motives. You will not be the first Igbo man to be fooled by Yoruba friends and colleagues. Ojukwu trust in his Yoruba friends (Awolowo, Aluko, Banjo) were also part of the reason for his poor judgement of issues at hand then, which proved costly and eventually cost us the war.

On Stella. It's no secret that Yorubas fought tooth and nail against Enugu international airport status. Though that's a whole different topic of its own.

The way you you dedicate your time and type this volume of words intrigues me, well done, but are you actually paid to type this much nonsense or you inherited this high level of tomfoolery?

Seriously am impressed by your doggedness to push fulani agenda while trying to sound like a southerner. It's either you acquired this subterfuge by training, or you are very old and got it by bitter experience

Osagyefo98:
Very pathetic.

Wherever you find yourself today is your state independent of the other.

Anybody against you guys timid logic and pull down syndrome is either an afonja or a fulani man.....Petty.


Willie Obiano already has a working security outfit and you want same govt to start shouting operation ekenweofia.....who does that?

Anambra has adopted her own long time security measure and have other issues to look at. Those who has no standing security architecture can co-habit and start it off.


Everybody mustn't do same thing Biko this boy.

What you want is not what I want and not want ANSG wants. So look for other places to cry and not here.


There are other pressing issues to look at and not any nonsense Agunweofia wurukwa ekenweofia...Lolzzz.

Miyetti spokesman.

FlyoruB:
The Presidency set a trap for the SW governors with this Amotekun initiative and they walked right in. I am sure lessons have been learned.

Which trap? Should they wait till people start dying in thousands before they can act?

What I don't like is the way the SW are parrying the brutal jabs of the north on this issue, stop denying and move to operation already.

I don't see anything wrong with oduduwa Republic. They will prosper because of their access to the sea.

seunmsg:
Community and state policing featured prominently in APC manifesto. This is the time to walk the talk.

Or the time to admit you were scammed with cheap promises

FuckBots:
Ipob must go

Yeah, they must go and form an independent Biafran country.

Osagyefo98:
Every state should please develop their own security architecture and stop looking for who to drag down or back and forth with.

This boy called slap44 should establish his okenweofia in his state and stop disturbing our peace here all the time.

Every state is an Independent unit.

SE is just for political recognition or zone and not necessarily a region.

Every state should bla bla bla , that was the reasoning behind cutting igboland up into states so that they can separate us from our brothers, Murtala mohammend tactics is what you are openly preaching to Igbos?

Do you think you can preach same divisive logic without giving yourself up as a fulani man speaking in Igbo because you have lived here all your life in Onitsha?

You can only fool yourself.

Osagyefo98:
None of my business but is dead on arrival here.

Your Agunweofia is just a mere figment of your Imagination.

ANSG already have a security working. No need for further duplication of functions and wasting of resources.

If you need Agunweofia tell your Governor to do that for you while others concentrate on development and not chasing shadows.


Not only Agunweofia.....also ekenweofia.

Ndi ara.

This dulani man, You are calling igbo people nd ara?

Anyone who is gearing to oppose my perceived enemy is my temporal friend. Nnamdi Kanu - 2027

Osagyefo98:
Please every state should set up their own security measures. Amotekun is purely Illegal.

Anambra already has theirs , so no need for any Operation Agunweofia or whatever....You can formulate that in your state.

Anyway Obiano has rejected such, no need typing further.


That's how people will leave governance and be pursuing shadows and all sorts of unnecessary stuff.

Develop your home grown solutions, that's the way the go.


Agunweofia my foot.

Amotekun, the sieve to separate who is fulani and who is igbo. You have been identified according to your words.

Just one heavy upper cut

Just one upper cut, and the country will be OK.

Just one unexpected upper cut can save Nigeria

banom:
I was in Enugu yesterday, but I received the shock of my life. I visited a place I went to relax, and people started talking about Uzodimma 's victory.

Being the state where Mbaka lives, and conducts his religious activities, I expected people to sing his praise, hail him for his prophecy on Uzodimma's victory, but on the contrary, people were making mockery of him.

They now see him as a fraud and a charlatan. They said Apc already told him that they planned to remove Ihedioha and asked him to say it so that it will look like God is in support of it. So that it will give the supreme Court judgement some credibility, and help douse tension.

They are no longer seeing him as a true man of God. They now see him as evil.

This is quite unfortunate, cuz I know mbaka never saw this coming...he deluded himself thinking people will be fooled by his prophecy this time around, but the whole thing is now back firing on him.

All I can say is you can fool the people some of the times, but you can not fool all the people, all the time. .. Mbaka why ?

Expect the northern posters to bash you and defend mbaka as if Mbaka is now an Imam

Ohamadike is the greatest !

Chai

nzeobi:
Hope try and perform please and please try our recover our looted Common wealth.

Let him pay for his his judgement first

Chiwude:
Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you Pazienza. We've read this script before in 1964, 1987, 1993 and 1999. The Yoruba's are strategizing with Amotekun to lay claim to the presidency. While I'm not interested in how they go about it, I'm keen into warning all the IPOB/Apolitical Igbo dunces not to involve Ndigbo in Yoruba struggles. Nnamdi Kanu and his cursed herds of exuberant touts [/b]should beware else they get burnt in the melee. The Yoruba's know how to settle their case with the north by retreating at the right time.
Ndigbo should stay on their line and play their politics rights. The SE Governors, our legislators and Ohaneze Ndigbo must start acting like charismatic leaders and work towards achieving their goal, irrespective of party and creed.
The likes of [b]IPOB and other infiltrators or future Nzeogwu in the SE must be exposed and neutralized before they destroy us a second time.
A word is enough for the wise.
Igbo interest must come first!

Words straight out of the mouth of the miyetti alla

pazienza:
Obi1kenobi




The Crux of the matter is that we don't know what Amotekun is all about other than what Yorubas are claiming that it is in public.
If Yorubas wanted other regions support in pushing Amotekun, common sense dictates that they should have liased with other regions during the planning stage before coming public with this. But that hasn't happened.
On the contrary, violence or confrontations with the Power that be in Abuja has always been a bargaining chip for power blocs in Southern Nigeria. The Yorubas rallied behind the Abiola fiasco to make claim to power in 1999, the South South wielded economic sabotage of Abuja petrodollars via pipeline vandalism and kidnapping of foreign oil workers to press home the need for them to be appeased by Abuja, which eventually led to VP for GEJ in 2007. Infact, many SE politicians were hoping to use IPOB as a bargaining chip as well in the heat of those moments, before it became obvious they were not in control of Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB and the game was up, leading to the proscription of IPOB by SE governors. Confrontation and not peace and dialogue, has always been a veritable tool of power grab in Nigeria

Already the North understands the game Yorubas are playing and had given them a hint with recent message by Miyyeti Allah suggesting that Yorubas would have to drop Amotekun if they still want 2023 presidency. This is exactly what Yorubas want to hear, and I can only imagine them pushing the North harder in coming weeks.




I have no issues with Yoruba elites forming Amotekun or whatever. I don't even want to care.
We have similar sorts of vigilantes in SE. Anambra in particular. If you live in Anambra, you will always see them.
It is not a must for us to support Amotekun or whatsoever Yorubas are up to. It's their headache, not Ours. You attempt at trying to armtwist Ndiigbo into lending support to a Yoruba agenda is at best disrespectful.



1. As a Biafran it is my belief that in everything Ndiigbo do, Igbo interests must come first, and if protecting Igbo interests means another group going to hell, then so be it.
I am not a fan of NK, ever since I noticed his organization are bereft of any direction or strategic thinking. His version of Biafra is the one that care less about Igbo interests but more about the interests of groups he hopes to co opt into his utopic multiethnic Biafra. I'm not surprised that NK endorsed and is campaigning for Amotekun. Igbo lives and interests I have since concluded mean nothing to him. I learnt he is offering thousands of Igbo youths to serve in Amotekun. I hope he offers his own brothers, cousins and kinsmen for such insanity and not precious Igbo youths. NK has never been or claimed to be an Igbo nationalist, I have nothing in common with him.

2. You should ask yourself, do Yorubas really want regional autonomy for everyone? If they do, how come Buhari whose anti regional stance on issues became a hero in Yoruba land, while GEJ who organized a National conference and if allowed to continue could have implemented many aspects of the resolutions reached on the conference that could have led to a certain degree of decentralisation of power. In liberal PDP and GEJ, we had an opportunity to slowly decentralize the FG powers, but the Yorubas would rather have a dictator who is anti decentralisation in power, if it means they get to share power with the dictator or get crumbs.
They also had the opportunity to right whatever wrong they did in 2015, by voting in a more liberal Atiku. But for promise of VP and presidency post Buhari, they once again jumped on Buhari train.
This isn't the first time either. In 1967 when Ojukwu was arguing for Confederation, it was Awolowo and Yoruba intelligentsia who rather than support that, decided to jump on Gowon boat. It was with Yoruba support that Gowon dissolved the regions , created the states , and centralized power in Nigeria, same thing Ironsi was killed for attempting.

Yorubas chant regionalism always, yet at any given point in time they had the option to sacrifice selfish interests to get regionalism, they chose the selfish interests and left those on the other side to burn. I also wonder what regionalism means to Yorubas, considering the resistance Oduah met at the hands of Yorubas, when she and GEJ made Enugu international airport. It would appear to me that Yorubas want a sort of arrangement where Lagos will retain it's current air and sea monopoly on the country, while allowing them to fully control the revenue from the sea and air gateway of Nigeria, without having the FG control them or share the revenue from them with the rest of the country.
They also want to have untamed control on who. Stays or leaves their region amongst other things. Strictly speaking, they want to eat their cake and still have it .

My strategy to get Biafra? well, it includes alot of things I can't list here, but it clearly doesn't involve repeating Igbo mistakes of yesteryears.
It involves building the Igbo political unity strong first and foremost , staying clear of things that are none of our business, things that only serve as distractions that dissipate our energy, without serving our own interests, which this Amotekun fully represents.

When you see northerners trying hard to blend in and use divide and rule tactics on the south, you will know. This is same group of monikers who will rather die than see any south south person have affiliation with Igbo people still trying to make sure that Igbo people will not side with Yorubas for Amotekun when you see that the whole south shares the same threat of life. You start to wonder.

My take is that there are no permanent friends or foes. When the Yoruba decides to sing a tune that sounds exactly like what Nnamdi Kanu is singing, I as a Biafran will dance.

Amotekun has come to stay, so that Operation Agunweohia can also stand.

Pazienza, obikenobi

Ok

What you are doing is not good, why disturbing a man earning his wages from washing plates, and sometimes sent to Kano to tour the state?

We don't care much about the past,

We the Igbos care much about the future,

That's why we are supporting Amotekun !

This table you are shaking, if you know how many people are leaning on it!

Doesn't matter now, with Amotekun, it won't happen again