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Igboid ị pụtakwa ula. Ụtụtụ ọma.

Come and write this Bonny/Opobo piece please.

Pass 11 ị putago?

Bkayy, 9Pluto, Ekealterego, Vintagepipes, OfoIgbo etc etc etc etc etc chi efogo kwanu.

BKayy:
On point. A good writer is needed. It would have been Alex.Bells but I doubt if the dude would like to help considering his philosophy on Igbo integrity.
We need another volunteer

Vintagepipes:
...I believe I have a read a few things from this individual

...He possess the passion but not the knowledge or intelligence for this task.

... A bit too emotional.

....He pandered to them, not experienced and I don't know if he is willing to learn.


..I believe Igboid is an ideal person. He writes well, and have all the facts and understand them deeply.

However, his anti-MNK stance might cause a clash with him and you know our brothers if maturity is not employed.

Lolllllll.


Ị can write anything writable. I'll just gather the facts presented here and compile all. Igboid can write it if he wishes. I don't think there'll be any Biafranist clash here lol. It's just a historical writeup.

Then will the volunteer be writing as a group or as an individual. If as a group what group. Igwebuike? Igbo youths intelligentsia? Igbo new generation?


Whatever will be written will have to be vetted here.

Then afterwards, very importantly, how will dissemination be done?

Pass11:
Yes I am following the thread and you guys are doing great work here.I'm happy that ohanaeze has recognized indigenous Igbo in Benue state, the next step maybe our people in kogi state. I'm planning of gathering all these documents here and send it to the Ohaneze youth president let me see what he can do.

Enyị́ one carton of o mpa for you.

RobbStark:
Slayerforever is my friend, so I will name him Tamunoibim.....God is Good
Or he may like Ibiwari.....Good house

Lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

Putindbutt:
Dry up your tears. I guess when ibos came, they forgot their clothes and culture attire in amaigbo and were forced to make do of foreign attire.

We are still waiting when the royal palace in Bonny and Opobo will start wearing isiagu. Abi e never due to dey wear ibo isiagu and throw away Ijaw identity?

The Akwette King Jaja wears 24/7 is Igbo cloth. Same with the cap. He even walks around with an Ofo in his hand like a real Igbo Priest-King. Lol.

Pass11:
Nwanne m we are moving forward, ohaneze youth council for igbo benue chapter as been introduced

That's a very good start. I was about mentioning you here to know if you're following this thread.

It seems you've been working behind the scenes. It's been a while we spoke.

ebufa:
that is why I do not criticise IPOB too much, the reason being that IPOB is by far the most determined,focused and resourceful Igbo dominated association today bar none! I pray that if and when Nnamdi Kanu is released by FG ,Pa mbazuluike Amaechi will persuade him to finally enter Igbo politics...............if properly focused on igbo nationalism......IPOB is a whale of an adversary! those guys have their tentacles everwhere.....MNK will have to convince his men that igbo nationalism is the way to go!

The great MNK will not agree

[quote author=BKayy post=108248348][/quote]Okay, excellent.

Then we will need a write up. A well articulated writeup centred around the discoveries on this thread.

After the writeup is ready there'll be need for dissemination.


What do you think?

Vintagepipes:
...I was banned a few weeks ago too

..How do one unban oneself?

...There was a simple procedure in the past but I don't think it works again.

I just had to wait it out

BKayy:
You're welcome.
Hope you saw the first stade of our action that I suggested

I've seen a lot of good suggestions as the thread is speeding along. Please, which one in particularly?

This antispambot ehn. I got banned for God knows what.

Finally back. Thanks to all who have continued to contribute their time and suggestions. I can see we're crossing from discussion to action. I'm fully on board.

Mancoconut your presence in Opobo at the moment, couldn't have been more timely. You will be our eyes and ears for next few days.

Daalụ nụ.

JANK23H:
Duarte Pacheco Pereira's Account of the Lower Guinea Coastlands in His "Esmeraldo de Situ Orbis,"

1508 actually

His accounts are okay. But questionable. Many latter voyagers and scholars suggested his reports brought about more questions that answers on later review. I think Pereira didnt investugate deeply.

RobbStark:
If comprehension is a thing, then it is on top of his wardrobe and he is too short to reach it.

Truth of the matter is that there are Ibo community in Bonny who are legit doing biz, they also gather on Sundays and discuss, even the newspaper said so but that guy slayerforever always have a way to twist things
Reason I don't want to respond to them.

2moro, I will going to Opobo in the morning, if they are free they shud come join me

Hahahaha. My man Robbstark. Didn't you see that Bonny main market video I posted. Everybody was speaking in the forbidden Igbo language

ThickSharon123:
Ekealterego, Slayforever, 9pluto, Please respond to nwatakiri (Glorious Igbo word for a child)

Ojiro okwu.

JANK23H:
Buttressing where the Rio Real is

Okay

JANK23H:
European and African Tradition on the Rio Real
G. I. Jones

So you have moved from 15th century to 1963

JANK23H:
The Rio Real is the estuary of Bonny River and New Calabar,just before Andonni.It's exactly Bonny.

By the way,I thought you said Kalabari was Ijo?

I said it's your business whatever you and they agree on.

JANK23H:
And the Rio Real

Are you scared of saying it?

It's actually Sombrero, don't twist it.Don't lie about that too. Small time una go use am make connections to Igbo

Whether they were thieving (which he didn't say) is not the issue.They occupied it,you can't wish it away.

The area in question Pereira described stops at part of Kalabari. That is your concern not ours.

JANK23H:
You have all pretended not to see Captain Pereira's account of the fifteenth century.Nobody countered... �

You'd rather stay in the comfort zone of the 19th century.

Captain Pereira described the Izon as a thieving race whose territory occupies the area around the western Niger Delta down through to the Sombreibo river. What is our business with that?

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Alabo7978:
you just showed your true colors here.
the Igbo national boundary stopped at the fringes of River state, you crossed several tribes/Aborigines to be the first to settle at a swampy Bonny with mosquitoes etc.
what ever happened to your notions about the igbos staying away from water because of the disease it brings??

the mangroves shall whisper dirges to your ending,
the swamps and the mosquitoes shall swallow you
come and get it and get drowned in the ocean.

[/s]


Ị chọrọ ị perekule m?

9Pluto:
Please, what is the title of this book.

It is amusing that all historical artefacts points at an obvious ijaw revisionism. I still ask, where were Ijaws when this story of Bonny and Opobo was been documented from way back 1800? Were they so invisible to be documented.

Someone is now so bold to claim Perekule ancestry and trying to supplant the indigenous language.

Ị chọrọ ị perekule m?

SlayerForever:
From this I gather Bonny kingdom was wide. Having Bonny Town as a kind of main town or capital. Which could mean there were sections closer to Kalabari who would claim Ijaw, and possibly even claim the town as back then. However, the town wasn't theirs as it was founded by the Ndoki.

All the communities, Kalabari Ibani and the Igbo founders can coexist together. But the problem started when the Ijaw became greedy and wanted ownership of the kingdom. Fabricating various falsehoods and using federal government backing to terrorise Bonny Igbos during and after the war.

I remember now, about 4 years ago when researching about Bonny in IPOB, I came across a news publication dated 2011 when Ojukwu died. It was from Bonny, under the auspices of Bonny Igbos Association or something like that, headed by a certain Comrade Ogbonna and he spoke with the confidence of one who knows who he is. I can't remember exactly if it was a resident Igbos association or indigenous Igbos stuff. In any case such association existed. Maybe it still does.

There was a week's mourning or so, declared for Ikemba. And the king of Bonny was notified officially of the mourning activities, while inviting other nationalities to join them in mourning Ikemba.

For the love of God whatever happened to that association!

Whenever I am chanced I will dig up that newspaper publication and provide it here.

Found it.

My memory serves me well. Mostly


https://www.thenewswriterng.com/2012/03/02/igbos-in-bonny-prepare-to-pay-farewell-to-ojukwu-2/


Where is this association today

Igboid:
Ijaw came from Sierra Leone to Delta/Bayelsa, and from there started their pirate activities all over the coast of Bight of Bonny.
You are already so frustrated that you had to go and open this new account to have a fresh start.

Lolllllllllll

Grinch41:
If the Portuguese,Dutch and British were scared of Ijos,na ordinary Igbo go fit do anything.

Your eyes set on the sea and Bonny oil and gas.Una no fit see am.

Why aren't you as desperate for Ika and Ekwerre?

All na Igbo land.

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Grinch41:
The story is changing gradually.No more Ijaws are from Sierra Leone,or no historical mention of Ijos,or no Ijo in Bonny.Now it's partly owned by both.

Igbos left their forest,crossed non-igbo villages and landed in Bonny.Confused nincompoops.

Slaves claiming the land of their masters.

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Whether by arbitration o or by fight o, now Igbos want Bonny they will get it. Sorry bro.

How time flies.

Igboid:
The Ijaw quickly quoted Baike number system but cunningly avoided this part of his work which will solidly dismiss Ijaw claims to Bonny.

From this I gather Bonny kingdom was wide. Having Bonny Town as a kind of main town or capital. Which could mean there were sections closer to Kalabari who would claim Ijaw, and possibly even claim the town as back then. However, the town wasn't theirs as it was founded by the Ndoki.

All the communities, Kalabari Ibani and the Igbo founders can coexist together. But the problem started when the Ijaw became greedy and wanted ownership of the kingdom. Fabricating various falsehoods and using federal government backing to terrorise Bonny Igbos during and after the war.

I remember now, about 4 years ago when researching about Bonny in IPOB, I came across a news publication dated 2011 when Ojukwu died. It was from Bonny, under the auspices of Bonny Igbos Association or something like that, headed by a certain Comrade Ogbonna and he spoke with the confidence of one who knows who he is. I can't remember exactly if it was a resident Igbos association or indigenous Igbos stuff. In any case such association existed. Maybe it still does.

There was a week's mourning or so, declared for Ikemba. And the king of Bonny was notified officially of the mourning activities, while inviting other nationalities to join them in mourning Ikemba.

For the love of God whatever happened to that association!

Whenever I am chanced I will dig up that newspaper publication and provide it here.

9Pluto:
Anna Pepple is a fiction.

Hmmm

Igboid:
We correct it by creating awareness and talking about it like we are currently doing, until it becomes common knowledge.

Maybe a thread on manilla?

9Pluto:
Hello Guys, please does anyone have access to Google docs? I need to find out something.

cc
Slayerforever
Bkayy
Ekealterego
Igboid
Ofoigbo
Eastlink

From what I am seeing someone may need to write a book about, 'The Pepples, a succession of successful igbo kings'.


@Ofoigbo in that literature you quoted Baike as telling us who Bonny people were, you were not magnanimous enough to tell us that he mentioned the ijo and thoroughly defined their territory.

Lots if fictions in ijaw Wikipedia accounts.

Annie Pepple is actually Ani pepple

Ohhhhhh Ani as in earth!

So what of Anna Pepple

ThickSharon123:
I understand them 100 percent. If I didn't see that Bonny masquerade sign. I would have thought this is Imo or Abia. ...this is nice. Igbos are the greatest tribe, totally fantastic. Can't you see the ginger there, gosh!!! I'm already getting nuts that I have Igbo blood from my mom. I'm so grateful.

I didn't get them 100% but I recognized my language