₦airaland Forum

BlueRayDick:
U are right, some of these things are calculated attempt at distracting the people from
The real issues .

The Wole Soyinka outburst against Obi, the introduction of the national anthem and now this phantom restructuring story . All of these 3 came on the heels of Tinubu marking one year anniversary in office with nothing tangible to show for his one year residency at the seat of power .

Investors are leaving in droves , some existing investors are shunning the country to invest elsewhere and we have food inflation going above the roof. They don’t want u discussing all these , they just want u discussing whether the national anthem was composed by a foreigner in a contest that overlooked hundred of Nigerians or that Wole Soyinka who took over a radio station with a gun in his youthful days is in a position to call out youths who insulted him for what he’s become in old age.

These things don’t matter , but that’s want they want us discussing and they are actually succeeding at it

What is this thing that Soyinka has become that he wasn't earlier

BlueRayDick:
U see that 1% of South west that voted Tinubu excellent ? They are the ndi abroad, those in naija wey their children abroad Dey wire money to and few political sycophants . The problem wey Dey town no concern them.

I know some of them personally

Many Nigerians do not participate in these online polls

If na by online polls Obi will be celebrating 1yr of governance not Tweeting and farming for Elon Musk dollars

Ellexy:
I trust you to defend Satan himself. He's doing a great job you say when the welfare of the people have deteriorated and gone from bad to uncharted territories of worse.

As you defend your messiah, small truth won't kill you in the process.

You cannot make omelettes without breaking eggs

Let us support and vote him for his 2nd term

CrystalTiger:
Is this slekdot the same person as raudmueter?

Ayam not understanding 🤔

Yes its the same person sperm boot slammed me

Unlimited22:
On this particular point, much like on Gaza-Israel relations, we agree.

Same way we will agree on Tinubu too. Just put all effort into re-electing Tinubu in 2027

Unlimited22:
I'm glad you know that when you're managing long term diseases that have festered, you do them with enough care so you don't worsen the problem.

You don't do surgery without anaesthetics and antibacterials or the pain and resultant infections will kill the patient long before you even attempt to start solving anything

Saving the life is the most important thing if its life threatening like the situation Nigeria found itself where we have kicked the can down the road and now run out of road to kick it .

You have seen warfronts where surgeries were done without the best care barely any anaesthesia and they couldnt wait to transport to where best conditions exist

You can fly the patient to a hospital and they arrive dead or just deal with the pain and inconvenience while doing that amputation immediately

Unlimited22:
The funniest thing is that most of the soldiers killed are Igbo.

How can you say you're remembering your fallen heroes and to celebrate you start killing your brothers? What kind of insanity is that?

Most of those terrorists like ESN and Boko Haram have killed more of their own tribesmen than outsiders and rendered the economy of their own village comatose

Real insanity. The students and market women they have flogged or killed are their own brothers

Unlimited22:
The primary tenet of medical care is 'Do No harm'

If you cannot help someone, then don't add to the person's load.
You can't come and deliver double digit food inflation in one year and expect to be applauded.

I am glad you mentioned medical care cos it depicts Nigeria's situation accurately

We have a chronic disease that has festered for so long and needs to be surgically removed, The removal process is never easy, It comes with severe pains but you still need to do it otherwise the patient dies

Unlimited22:
Easy for you to to say from a mansion in Texas.
You're not the one who has to see people develop corneal ulcers because they can no longer afford 1000 to buy fluconazole ointment.
You're not the one who's harassed to the point of exhaustion at every turn by people whose livelihoods can no longer keep them alive.
You're not the one whose power generating costs have swallowed up his business profits and even capital.
You're not the one who stays out till midnight rather than hear the cries of hunger pangs from his young children.
You're not the one contributing funds to save indigent patients from certain death and/or blindness because without treatment they can't afford, they are surely dying or going blind.
You're not the one whose transport costs have doubled and tripled while salary has stayed the same.
You're not the one watching hasty decisions taken and equally hastily reversed to no avail.
You're not the one who sees a government declare that subsidy is gone only to continue paying it quietly months later while transport costs are crushing him like The sky does Atlas.
You're not the one earning in a currency where inflation makes you a third poorer by the year.
You're not the one who'll make business plans and forecasts only to have your dreams crushed by one bloated lawmaker who's never done an honest day's work in his life.
Again, easy for you to postulate from an air-conditioned room in Texas.

While all these are true you still will agree that these did not start today and its decades of decay
So why will you expect damage of 40yrs to be fixed in 1yr?
8million Nigerians trusted Tinubu to turn around the economy and he is doing a great job so far

Roland17:
We are already doing something similar to that with the 13% (is it still 13%) derivation and it hasn't resolved anything. As long as the North have the population which is the ultimate determinant of elections in Nigeria, then we may never have true fiscal Federalism because our biggest resource is not in the North. Our crude oil powers our economy and nothing can rival that at this time.

I am not advocating scrapping the FG but we need to seriously reduce the amount of power they have. Remember, when I started, I said, I do not necessarily think regional is the solution but it is better than whatever we have right now. Like Unlimited22 said, make everybody show their working and bear the consequences. There can be a way to collaboratively benefit from resources in each region but it has to be defined by the region that owns the resource.

That 13% or whatever percent, Needs to be getting to the grassroot to the LG where the lives of the people are mostly impacted. When it gets to the LG not to the State, LG then we hope they will do right by their people and if they don't the people who live close to them can hold them

The problem is not the North or anyone, Just like you said the states getting 13% and not doing much, Is it the North that stopped them? 13% gets to the governor, he converts it to Dollars and stash into his personal account.

If we reduce the power of the FG and hand it over to States will it be better or maybe its better to hand it to LG
I have seen people here complain and reject handing e.g policing to state governors

With regional its say 6 regions, the states things got closer to the people since 36 has more granular than 6. what will make it even better is if it gets to the level of 774 LGA.


If they now give you 60% for your LG and you steal it, then its left to your people to hold you accountable or defend you like they did to Ibori and Alams. Then na you sabi after that but at least you cannot blame one bogeyman North West or South

Unlimited22:
Yeah, that's why we're facing double digit inflation, erosion of value of the currency, burgeoning hot-spots of insecurity, a wipe out of the middle class, multinationals falling over themselves in their haste to leave and a general sense of gloom and doom across the country for those who aren't in the ruling class.

Exactly. What a stellar job he's doing.

All these are as a result of decades of mismanagement of the country and economy. Which is what Tinubu has been doing starting with removal of subsidies, giving LG autonomy

Nigeria did not spoil in 1yr and will not be repaired in 1yr

The moves made by Tinubu so far shows why more Nigerians trusted him to govern the country than other candidates

So far, he is doing a stellar job

sod09:
If emilokan write his own he should do the needful

Tinubu is after governance of the country, Obi that has taken up the Twitter constituency should continue doing his job and do it well

sod09:
https://www.nairaland.com/8110882/sit-at-home-peter-obi-condemns-attack

Where's emilokan own

Obi wrote so many words and didn't mention the killers IPOB who ordered the sit at home

No one is suprised about the actions of Peter IP-OBI

Roland17:
Currently, that same Auchi man has Federal political representation of his community in Abuja which is outside Edo and farther from Calabar or PH. You are never going to eliminate the differences but the similarities, geographically especially is a tremendous pro that brings governance closer to the people in comparison to what we have now. The idea is to drastically reduce the power at the top because it is not devolving to the people who need most.

As it stands today, the SW and SE are better positioned to transition away from the Federal/ top heavy system of Government. As for the embolden, just forget about it because the North will never allow it to happen because they will suffer most if we practice true fiscal resource control and Federalism. our LGs need total autonomy even if we move away from Federalism.

The proposed Region is replacing State govt and not replacing FG

When we ran the regional system, there was still FG but nothing like State govt. Basically you are collapsing 36 states into 6 under 1 FG

Regarding Fiscal autonomy, It can be sold that you keep 60% and send 40% to the center or whatever percentage works

andrewbaba44:
Conte don go Napoli

Won’t be surprised to see Napoli contend for the league next season

Conte is good in league titles

Napoli should be favourite for the league they do not have European commitment and they still have the bulk of the players who won them the title

The plenty change of coaches was what messed them up, even in the CL they still gave a good account vs Madrid and Barcelona

Roland17:
I don't think the idea is to totally eliminate the differences because that is impossible, even if every state becomes a country of it's own. The truth is, considering our population, land mass and other dynamics, our system of government is too big and expensive, consequently, the people, especially those in the local government are not benefitting from governance. An Auchi man and Calabar man may not have similar cultures but they have more similarities between both in comparison to a Norther or SW. Now, I don't necessarily think a regional system will resolve all our issues or is the best but I know our current Federal system isn't working for the majority.

I am in agreeement that the current system is not working effectively but IMO the best way around it is fiscal autonomy and strenghtening of LG

Carrying everyone into regions will not work well, When we had regions, The Midwest broke away the Eastern minorities were always seeking to break away from the Eastern region. Its the agitation to control your local destiny that led us to 36 states

By going regional into say 6 regions you are basically telling the man from Auchi who is going to Benin to now have to travel to Calabar or PH for representation or telling the Offa or Igbira man to travel to far away Jos instead of Ilorin and Lokoja who are relatively nearer

The closer the govt And each federating unit is to the people the better, Its easier for someone in Ikere Ekiti who doesnt have water to approach his LG chairman at the LG headquarters 15mins away than for him to have to travel to Ibadan a journey of 4hrs to meet his rep

he probably knows the chairman and the chairman lives among them vs the guys in Ibadan

Theflint1:
The regional governance thing should be shot dead IMHO...state and LG autonomy is the more reasonable and useful thing...the koko is money should go where it ought to go, and not Akwa-Ibom's oil is Nigeria's and Zamfara's gold is for Zamfara.

We never talk finish SS man don carry cutlass, Omoh that talk will start WW3. You think someone from Edo wants to be traveling to PH or Calabar to take orders

larride:
That's why a discussion around it must be had.

That regional talk is a discussion going nowhere IMO.

We are too different. Lets even say SW and SE will agree to the regional arrangement because we are largely of same stock, So where and how do you propose the SS region come together? what similarity is any exist between Auchi man and A Calabar man. Where will capital be, what do they have in common, they dont even speak the same language nor worship the same thing nor believe in the same thing

An Edo man that has tasted autonomy will now be banded with someone from AkwaIbom and be taking orders from wherever the capital is (Assume its portharcourt)

Na from SS and NC(middle belt) that talk of regional govt will scatter

Unlimited22:
The original templates of North, MB, West, Midwest, SS, SW won't work?

1. Where did that original template come from? I doubt we ever had anything like that at anytime. In 1966 we had 4 regions North, West, Midwest, East

In the 90s it became 6 regions NE, NW, NC, SS, SE and SW

So which of these are we going with? The 1960s or the 1990s

BlueAngel444:
I thought you know football so fernebache is not a big club abi

What qualifies them as a big club?

This is where they are ranked in UEFA coefficient currently

OasisX:


....soon, LGs will be freed from State Governors. Read what PBAT said to Arewa Group yesterday;

Egbon mi, Is this case not with the supreme court currently for the LG autonomy

I feel LG autonomy, State autonomy are more realistic to achieve than Regions

thats just my opinion

Spy360:
The north will only use their advantage to block anything that will lead to national progress. I'd rather they use it to develop their region too. Despite their advantage they are still the worst in all Human Development Indices.

Can you provide a rough template of how this regional thing will work?

Don't think about your region alone, think about how it applies to other regions outside yours

Lets start by asking how many regions are we planning to divide the country into

larride:
LOOL.

That bill no fit scale National Assembly lai lai

Lets start by asking how many regions are we planning to divide into and the last time we were regions, Many ethnic nationalities complained that they are suppressed

Some of us here are in somewhat monolithic regions don't know what it means to live in multi ethnic regions

sod09:
Nah I don't think state students should be given
No offence but they know what they are getting at picking state owned schools
The state government should bring out loans to their students
Don't kill tinubu for us
I don't really rate state own schools sha

Na each state know why dem open University and they should be able to fund it and not depend on FG

Theflint1:
Which of them is it, ethnic-related violence or party-related violence? It seems what Sodik and BluRay are saying is different from what you're saying...they're bringing evidence of people that were prevented from voting because of their tribe, and you're bringing evidence of people that were prevented from voting because of their party affiliation...violence is violence, but it's good to make that distinction.

None of them have been able to prove ethnic related violence. They posted 2 people 1 Ibo man and 1 Bayelsa man. Another person said a Yoruba lady

The common thing they all have from evidence is they were suspected LP voters. The same way suspected APC voters were attacked in the East

Jodera:
Could this also be applied to your beloved Kdb and Kante?

KdB and Kante at least were on the pitch for some period Unlike Terry that was far in the stands

Griffon:
That nigga doesn’t love football, the comic part of the game maybe.

How can you love football and you’ll be flying up and down in Nou Camp?

Do you think Terry loves football? If he did, why will he want to turn the field to a mosque?

Unlimited22:
Which means you know it's used as a slur on NL.
Nice.

You are the one telling me its a slur and I took your word for it, Just like I took your words on Achebe spelling Ibo to mock the colonialist
You havent given be a reason why Ekwensi, Achebe two of the greatest men to ever come out of Iboland are using the word and others cannot?

Anything can be a slur anywhere by a set of people. The Unlimited moniker can turn into a slur. Akpu eater can be a slur, Amala eater can be a slur

Will that stop you from eating your favourite meal?

Unlimited22:
I'm sure you're aware he was born in Minna?

And yes, he was. That's an anglicisation to make a book title more marketable


And even then, you won't tell me you don't know or you haven't heard from anyone, or you haven't seen it used, particularly on Nairaland's less savoury sections, as a slur


But like I said, I'm trying to get home in one piece.

I posted something attached before spam bot got me which I screenshotted and attached

[quote author=basilico post=127255855]Everyone sees what they want to see and believe whatever they want.
Newsom father in law ran away from Commiefornia to Florida because of better safety, lower taxes and better governance.😜😜

I was talking to a fella who had made the move from California to Florida. He was telling me that Florida’s much better governed, safer, better budget, lower taxes.

Then he paused and said ‘by the way, I’m Gavin Newsom’s father-in-law.’ pic.twitter.com/OSsYCRTJYo

— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) December 1, 2023

who watched the debate yesterday knew Desantis floored Newsom

The debate was to debate Blue state policy vs Red state Policy

While Ron was able to state that California is so dirty that it has a shiit map, homelessness was all over, Newsom father inlaw fled to Florida, That how bad school books were promoting pornography for kids, and how Newsom had his own kids in private school during covid while he shut public schools, Disney Florida stayed open during covid while Disney California was shut

The only point Newsome kept making was that neither he nor Desantis will be nominee and he should drop out for Nikki Haley. How is this part of his blue state policy?

Newsom had significant trouble with the truth even when showed facts and numbers like Education in California, Covid death numbers, Taxes, Gas prices and even number of people who fled the state

The sucker punch Ron DeSantis delivered to him was that California is the most naturally blessed state in the country with beautiful weather how Newsom managed to chase people away from beautiful California

Raheem Sterling in Chelsea that is an excellent choice for Chelsea

I will suggest opening a different thread on this same EPL section and name it

All discussions Politics, music, business and derailer haven

I expect this will not be deleted as long as people are matured enough not to go into personal attacks

Someone should open the thread and mention us